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    Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 272 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Corey, Yes, you are right – in this sentence “Gewaltsamkeit” relates to actions by humans that interrupt what would be in harmony with nature. “…da vom Menschen das natürlich-schöpfungs-mässige Streben nach Höherem und Vollkommenerem gewaltsam abgewürgt wird..” This should imply (my own translation) “… as the natural creational aspiration (quest/drive/striving) towards (what is) higher and more perfect is forcefully suffocated (stifled / killed off) by Man…” But the origin of this word does not relate only to humans. “Gewalt” has its roots in the old German word “waltan” which meant “to be strong, to command, to control, to dominate”. It related to all actions, processes in which or by which humans, animals, plants or objects are influenced, changed or harmed. The entity that executes such power may not only be humans. It may e.g. apply to nature’s forces ("Naturgewalten")- but here it expresses more neutrally the great strength behind the forces at work. But “Gewaltsamkeit” applied by humans often implies “unduly / illegally using force / coercion”. Salome, Bill | ||||
Corey Member Post Number: 1013 Registered: 12-2009 |
Thanks Bill. In the 488th contact, Ptaah explains that "Gewalt" is derived from the Old Lyrian term "Gewila" which is defined by Plejaren linguists as: '‘using all available coercing means, powers based in the psyche, mind and consciousness, capabilities and skills, in order to carry out and wield monstrous (immense/tremendous) actions and deeds.’ For the German of this contact, see footnote at the end of this article here: http://au.figu.org/content/Is%20the%20Core%20Group%20of%20the%20FIGU%20an%20Elite....pdf Salome Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 274 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you, Corey. Peace and Good Health for you and all in 2016. Bill | ||||
Bianca Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 03-2009 |
Since most of the posts here have gone sideways and downwards, and the negativities people write create the bad and harmful influence on many of the readers world wide. I feel there should not be posted at all, freedom of speech or not! This is Figu d/b. I would like this forum to go back to its original purpose because spreading negativities here on this forum is not what this place is suppose to be, it is meant to educate those who want to learn about Creation and how to become real human beings. I would like to propose that a new thread be open with a new topic of 'Genesis'. If anyone who has the true understanding of the book and can do minor explanations or paraphrase from the book, that would be just super for us all, I think. I don't this book will be translated anytime soon so why not get at least snippets from it and learn some more truths that would also educate all the governments and UN readers. Thank you and Salome …Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All. OM | ||||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 672 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Bianca, good idea about bringing forward snippets from Genesis. But you do realize negative events are brought forward so they can be changed right? As you well know nothing can be either all positive or all negative. Freedom of speech is especially important right now. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||||
Corey Member Post Number: 1042 Registered: 12-2009 |
Bianca, I disagree with you that many of the posts here are sideways, and downwards (i.e. negative), just peruse the "The Way to Live" thread, where people are learning to be a true human-being through discussion. This is one small example, of how, many of the posters here are doing the very thing you are demanding of them, being 'diamonds in the rough', learning how to be true human-beings, and learn about the Creation. True, there are times where there is some negativity and such, but this is to be expected, as many of the negative effects of overpopulation, global warming, religion, war, etc, are spoken about here on the FIGU forums, as many of these items are constantly disseminated by Billy, and FIGU, and these items, which will start affecting us human-beings of Earth sooner, rather then later, so it is good, and speaking about the negative effects should be encouraged, if anything, as the masses still have the illogical 'no concern for tomorrow-buy this car and your life will get better-procreate as may children as possible' mentality of a television commercial, which is sad, because, as some of the paraphrasing, and translations I have disseminated here on the FIGU English forums from "Arahat Athersata" indicate, procreating unlimited children violates the laws of species conservation, and it's feasible that many of these young children in the world today, will starve to death, and other 'abnormal deaths' (AA) will come to them, if desertification increases, the fourth world fire breaks out (and everything is rationed, and there is mass starvation), or in my specific country, the probable collapse of 2020 happens. All of this will come due to us, human-beings of Earth, due to the law of cause and effect, which is one of the casual laws of the Creation that must fulfill itself. Hopefully the government, and UN readers will read my words, find my translations/paraphrases in the archives, and heed Billy's warning, before these young ones starve to death, in the coming decades (or sooner). If you are expecting any changes from UN, or governmental readers perusing the forums, I have personally posted many a translation, or paraphrasing, from many a pertinent/urgent topic here on the FIGU English forums, I can vouch that Jacob S. has done so too, as has Indi, Gaiaguys, as does Billy with this Bulletins, and there has not been any vast, and sweeping changes, here on planet Earth. I'm not trying to be negative here, just an observation, that spans many years, with two accounts, here on the English forums. Then again, maybe today is the day, something one of them reads here on the forums, will strike a nerve, and we will see a worldwide-birth-stop tomorrow. As for your "Genesis" request, I own the book, but I have not taken it out of the plastic, I have other books to read first, so I will be unable to do any translations, or paraphrasing. Sorry, best wishes to you! It is truly my hope that you do not discount some of the 'rough-diamond' posters, as there is truly people accumulating knowledge and wisdom, and truly there are people making neutral cognitions, and conscious, as well as, unconscious evolution is at work, here on the English forums, as truly people try to find their way to slowly learn to fulfill the laws and recommendations of Creation. Like "The Way to Live" states, people are like waves, each with their individual flow pattern, and we are all individuals, I suppose, and there are over 8.3 billion ways to the truth (as many ways to the truth, as there are people counted by the 'Bio-gram' count).  Salome. mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 | ||||
Votan Member Post Number: 482 Registered: 12-2011 |
Corey What is this book Genesis. Where did you get it. joe | ||||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 12-2014 |
Hi Everyone, I agree with Corey, in us not closing our eyes from the negatives. They are part of life, and required for learning and improvement. I have just read the latest shared extracts on figu.org from Billy’s contacts with Ptaah on 23rd December and 06th January. Many pages analyzing the state of current societies, European Union, dealings with the refugee crisis, New Year events in Cologne. Certainly a heavy doses of bad things and trends for more. At the same time, I share Bianca’s concerns in as far as perceiving our forum discussions as somewhat unbalanced, with too much stress on witnessed politics, economics etc., without at the same time making an effort to sufficiently discuss root causes in careless thoughts, resulting feelings, behaviors, which are not aligned with natural laws and recommendations. We contributors and readers would benefit more, if spending quality time with reflecting about the flaws, not in a depressive style (kind of Bianca’s downward spiral), but brainstorming about the various feasible avenues and little practical measures for gradually improving things. Bianca, I can’t serve you with explanations of the Genesis book based on “the true understanding of the book”. I read it once, and got certainly very impressed by it, but would not consider myself as grasping things in all depth yet. Too inexperienced a student of the spiritual teaching I am. Joe, there are only two books from FIGU that are based on transmission from the high level of Petale. Those are “Genesis” https://shop.figu.org/b%C3%BCcher/genesis?language=en and “Dekalog Dodekalog” https://shop.figu.org/b%C3%BCcher/dekalog-dodekalog?language=en I found Dekalog to be super important for me as a former follower of Christianity. Reading the unfalsified details and understandable explanations for the 10+2 recommendations was eye-opening. What I would be happy to do (in the limits of my realistically disposable time), is to upload the translated table of content of Genesis, and have forum readers picking a part that they would love to get snippets from, to discuss with other. Salome, Stefan | ||||
Bianca Member Post Number: 128 Registered: 03-2009 |
I have to make a correction: I think that priority ONE should be to make efforts to bring to the people here and elsewhere the teaching from the book 'god and god delusions', something to this effect in this title. …Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All. OM | ||||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 67 Registered: 12-2014 |
Hi, As promised, here the table of contents from FIGU’s book Genesis. The original over here, am using a Microsoft Word document:
And my best effort of a translation is as follows:
Let me know, what part is of special interest to extract from and discuss with each other. Salome, Stefan | ||||
Theoldthomas New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2016 |
Hello Stefan, thank you for the contents pages of the Genesis book. I have some information I would like to share with you in private if you have the time. My name is Thomas Hall and my email is there.are.no.circles@gmail.com. This is in relation to the Forum specifically and to the book "Genesis" that is being discussed. Thomas | ||||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 12-2014 |
Hi Thomas, Have seen your message and will email you now... Salome, Stefan | ||||
Theoldthomas New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2016 |
Hello everyone. Have any of you read any further details about the renewal phases that sweep through the material belt other than what is available on the future of mankind site? I wonder specifically if this renewal wipes out everything as it passes or if the renewal is not destructive. I have many of BEAMs books but haven't found more about the subject. Thanks in advance... Thomas (the old one lol) | ||||
Patm Member Post Number: 371 Registered: 07-2006 |
Hi Theoldthomas, The birth of the Creation Universal Consciousness (Big Bang) 46.5 million-million years ago also began the 1st Creation Universal Consciousness Wake/Slumber period. We are currently in the first half of that period or the 1st Waking Period which will last 311.04 x10^12 earth years. This 1st Waking period includes an Expansion (155.5 million million years) and a Contraction (155.5 million million years). We are currently 46.5 million million years into the Expansion. The coarse-substantial matter & matter belt was first created 115 thousand million years ago. This was the beginning of the first of the Matter belt renewal phases (transformations) each lasting 49 thousand million years. We are currently 17 thousand million years into the 3rd Matter belt Renewal Phase (transformation). "Through necessary renewal-cataclysms the matter belt only exists in each case 49 thousand millions years, after which it passes and out of the back-developing energy a new matter belt comes into being." Durch notwendige Erneuerungs-umwälzungen existiert der Materiegürtel jeweils nur 49 Milliarden Jahre, wonach er vergeht und aus der rückentstehenden Energie ein neuer Materiegürtel entsteht. Please see also the Creational Timeline at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=U25QHx4MJoY%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0 Above information is based on my translations of Question 9 & 53 from Billy Meier's book: Teaching script for the Teaching of the Truth, Teaching of the Spirit, Teaching of the Life Lehrschrift für die Lehre der Wahrheit, Lehre des Geistes, Lehre des Lebens which may contain errors. Salome PatM | ||||
Patm Member Post Number: 372 Registered: 07-2006 |
Hi Theoldthomas, An additional note: The drawing I referred you to only contains seven of the many Matter belt renewal phases. The universe will continue to expand for 155.5 million million years then will contract for 155.5 million million years at which point the universe will dissolve. After the contraction period there will be a slumber period of 311.04 x 10^12 years while further evolution occurs and at the end of the slumber period bears a new universe-form i.e. creation-form in which henceforth no longer includes a matter-belt. The above information is based on my translation of Question 52 from Billy Meier's book: Teaching script for the Teaching of the Truth, Teaching of the Spirit, Teaching of the Life Lehrschrift für die Lehre der Wahrheit, Lehre des Geistes, Lehre des Lebens which may contain errors. Salome PatM | ||||
Theoldthomas New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2016 |
Thanks Pat. So I wonder what happens to life that hasn't reached the Arahat level when the wave of renewal passes? Are they killed only to reincarnate or are the absorbed by Creation like at the end of the contraction of the entire universe? Thank you for your help! | ||||
Learnmore12 Member Post Number: 57 Registered: 05-2014 |
It is mentioned in the GoT (page 579) that the creation will continue to exist for 311,040,000,000,000 (311 million million, 040 thousand million) years, during which there is a constant becoming and passing and again a new becoming. So what year are we now in, in terms of Creation? | ||||
Corey Member Post Number: 1261 Registered: 12-2009 |
Learnmore12, Please see Patm's post 371 and post 372 which is three posts above yours in this very thread of "The Creation Itself", I think this may answer your question? mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 ----- Salome/Corey Müske | ||||
Peacewarden New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2016 |
Patm wrote: Hi Theoldthomas, An additional note: The drawing I referred you to only contains seven of the many Matter belt renewal phases. The universe will continue to expand for 155.5 million million years then will contract for 155.5 million million years at which point the universe will dissolve. After the contraction period there will be a slumber period of 311.04 x 10^12 years while further evolution occurs and at the end of the slumber period bears a new universe-form i.e. creation-form in which henceforth no longer includes a matter-belt. The above information is based on my translation of Question 52 from Billy Meier's book: Teaching script for the Teaching of the Truth, Teaching of the Spirit, Teaching of the Life Lehrschrift für die Lehre der Wahrheit, Lehre des Geistes, Lehre des Lebens which may contain errors. Salome PatM ------------------------ It doesn't contain any errors. | ||||
Patm Member Post Number: 381 Registered: 07-2006 |
Peacewarden, It is my translation which may contain errors... Salome PatM | ||||
Votan Member Post Number: 642 Registered: 12-2011 |
As Creation created the universe on a mathematical equation has any one cracked that code yet and found creation yet. I am sure that the super computer using the principle of quantum physics will be able to work it out. joe | ||||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 506 Registered: 04-2011 |
Gday Votan I can see 49 equations The Figu will show the nations The Secrets of The Creation the spirit is a molecule explain what is time howto explore the mind whats found inside To The Power Of 49!!!! The Figu will write a book need to be strong to look corner stones of creation and its true foundation New science springs forth so study hard cnotes ;-) and the meditations Most think its untrue i see it through the gloom They know The Creation how we are all Creations so its only natural the Figu is the bastion of knowledge,wisdom,Love The Sohar and Djedi ;-) The secrets of The Creation shown to every nation tick tock is that the time i will continue this rhyme There will be many with a keen Eye Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||||
Yoid Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 12-2008 |
How will be looking the universe after next big bang i know there will be no material belt only fine spiritual energy, no humans anymore. Is something written about that ? Does Ptaah, Semjase said about it ? And Billy was 7 minutes in hyperraum and saw creation he wrote that he became a part of a collective concioussness , that could be look like the next stage? thanks |
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