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Michael_horn
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> There have been space traveling races for…millions of years. You’re projecting limitations that don’t apply, as reading Meier’s information about the past history of space traveling races and the Plejaren’s own history shows.
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Corey
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Hugo, as MH pointed out, Old Lyran/Wegan forefathers have been maintaining space travel for at least 22 million years (point in time they first visited the Earth). Contact 654 describes a very large Lyran "emigration force" 13,500 years ago. This moment in space-time must be all the rage with future terrestrial time-travelers. :-)
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Corey
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Tyler_rutland, I think the question asked in page 81 of the updated Nokodemion book meant by "quasi" was meant: asking if some of these spirit-forms are among the core-group. The answer was "(some) members of the core-group, a certain number of passive members, and also people outside of the FIGU membership found all throughout the world."
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Corey
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Explanation of page IX of OM: 389,000 years ago, OM was set down in writing in the Solomon-speech. The bible falsely claims these wise-sayings originates with King Solomon. What is not known is that King Solomon had his entire line of his wise-sayings borrowed from the Ur-OM. The true origination of the wise-sayings are with the Lyran, who returned to the Earth, and in their (Lyran) wise-sayings were known as "solomon-wisdom", which translates into the German language as "the wise-sayings of peace". (This must mean that King Solomon borrowed his name from the Lyran language (RE: salomonischen, SALOMONISCHE WEISHEITEN = Salome/Salomo [Solomon] = "Salomo" could be conjugation of Lyran "Salome" which = peace), and Solomon also falsified the OM when he set it down in writing which later became a part of the bible. I think Salomon [Salomo] can be found in history in the new TJ page 22 verse 53 [Davjd begot Salomo/Solomon] which is 50 generations after Adam, and 27 generations before Joseph [Jmmanuel's father]) It was a crass falsification, and it was unknown to King Solomon the other languages the composition of the Ur-OM was in it's wisdom, and quotations. Billy made it all correct again, at great physical loss, and personal loss to his health, by setting down 77 canons of the OM in it's truthly Ur-form for us Earthlings to study. (note: Billy set this Ur-OM down in writing in the German language, which is descended from the Old Lyrian dialect "Arjn". This "Arjn" dialect is one the Plejaren still utilize, and translate Billy's writings into this dialect.) There are a few translated OM verses that may contain errors, but it will leave one with the overall meaning of the verses.

The OM has many verses instructing humankind how to be a wise one (Weisen), and the characteristics of a wise one, and how this differs from being a fool, or unwise one. A wise one would obviously have accumulated great knowledge and wisdom over the course of his/her lifetimes. The OM verses almost "test" your knowledge and wisdom that one has accumulated since reading the Meier books, and one can see that they really have a long way to go to be considered "a wise one".

32:54: Berechtigte Nachsicht gegen Freund und Feind ist ein Schmuck der Weisen, doch der Unverständige ist dumm und versteht es nicht.

32:54: Justifiable leniency against friend and foe is the mark of the wise one, but the ignorant person is of low intelligence and will not understand it.

The OM also contains verses that are warnings about religious clergy. I once read a verse that said "a priest will steal an apple, but the pope will steal the whole tree". I think the warnings are justifiable, as "Goblet" has so many verses that God is just a hazy delusion fabulation, and not to raise up your fellow human-beings into "God's representatives" because God does not exist, and all human-beings are supposed to be equal, and in full equivalence, not abuse their power/prestige:

32:272: Einen Meister, von dem man keinen Gewinn, sondern nichts als Ungemach zu erwarten hat, den soll man schon aus der Ferne meiden, zumal wenn er noch ein Mächtiger oder ein Priester ist.

32:272: A master of whom one cannot expect any gains are nothing but trouble, one should evade already from afar, especially if he is as well a powerful person, or a priest.

And as "Goblet" would say, the primal well-spring of all life (the Creation) is based in love, not religious delusion that asks for the pathological craving for revenge, and the pathological craving for retaliation, one has to base his/her actions on being "fair", and "fairness", which is 1 of the 12 leaders taught in "Goblet" page 169/5:25 . Here is an OM verse that is almost an allegory about the "fairness" opposite un-value: "unfairness", that one has to contemplate it's deeper meaning to make a change in one's life, by pulling the weeds (controlling/eliminating the unfair thoughts see: "The Might of the Thoughts". Controlling one's thoughts and actions = "weeding your garden" allegory.):

32:1679: Wie das Unkraut stetig wächst und spriesst, so der Mensch die Ungerechtigkeit hisst.

32:1679: As the weed continually grows and sprouts, so the human being raises the flag of unfairness.

I will post more OM translations as time moves forward. The 3 OM verses translated by Corey Müske, found in OM (Omfalon Murado), copyright FIGU-BEAM.
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, March 03, 2017 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Summary (main points) of pages 142-143 of "Arahat Athersata":

All thoughts "return" to the sender in equal strength, in the sense that good returns = as good, and evil returns = as evil as the thoughts come back to origination-mass. This is explained as a "boomerang effect" that is pure in fine-spiritual-perception-based and feeling-based forms. The explanation for the thought form (boomerang explanation) is based in the factor of -life-based thoughts- as well as -feeling-based thoughts- that create feelings and fine-spiritual-perceptions.

The example here is love and hate:

If one feels feeling-based love, or fine-spiritual-perception-based love or develops pure feeling-based or emotion-based hate the result is in fine-spiritual-perceptions, emotions, and feelings that are transmitted into the thoughts then are "radiated" outward as thought-power, emotions, or fine-spiritual-perceptions. The connection with the feelings is created by the feeling-thoughts which the resulting form is born, and returned to sender.

Feeling-based thoughts of love equate to equal forms of love returned to the thought emitter vibrationally, as the same for the feeling of hate earns more hate in the thoughts of the thought emitter.

Negative thoughts bury the morals, the psyche, and the forward-coming progress. Like a magnet to the negative person will bring other negative people, negative experiences, and things will go bad for them. Each kind of disharmony and failure will find an entrance into the life, power and health will be weakened, unconcernedness will be created which will drive the human into self annihilation.

Positive thoughts are evolutionary, life-affirming, good, and healthy. The good thoughts create and strengthen good character, and attracts the desired good humans to you, as helpers, and also the reality of joy. Success, happiness, truth, love, and knowledge will accompany the upright positive thought emitter.

The determined thoughts will return to the thought emitter as a determined developing side effect of what pole your thoughts were. My perspective on the situation is: I guess you could say this law is cause and effect in action (causality at work) on a vibration-based level (vibration-quality based on thoughts).

We on Earth are not really taught to control our thoughts and feelings, nor are we taught the reciprocal relationship between thoughts and feelings, weed your thoughts like a garden to get rid of the weeds (weeds = negative thoughts). Now that you know about the "boomerang effect", tend to your garden before you attract more negativity to your life just like a magnet! :-)
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"Arahat Athersata" translates from Sanskrit roughly as = "the precious one who looks at the times"/summary by Corey Müske/original German = copyright FIGU-BEAM
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Cpl
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Thanks for that, Corey. It's beautifully said.
Chris

Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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== Further Thoughts About the Evolution Of Our Planet == ^)

Let me first re-iterate again what Petale (in “Genesis”) says

1. The ultimate goal of Creation is not punishment but the evolution of the human consciousness.
Our swinging wave should be in complete harmony with the creational rhythm of universal balance (equalisedness). It is “the prerequisite ot all creative thinking and acting”.

To establish this equalisedness we should have a “fine spiritual perception” of deference and veneration for “for all and everything and everyone”. *)
(IMW: We should see us on a path to a “we” personality and universal oneness )

2. Petale clearly says, too, that “mistakes are necessary to gain knowledge / wisdom” and that “the fallible one, should be offered all opportunities to recognize his mistake, amend it .. gain knowledge from it …so that he is able to evolve…”

From Billy we know -
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1. We should self reflect before judging.
This self-reflection may direct our thinking towards the errors of judgement that we ourselves made in our life and our subsequent desire to improve, balance them.
We may not condone what a person did – but we should not hate him.

2. We know that our planet not only was the settlement of gene-manipulated peoples – it was as well a place in which “fallible ones” – those that gravely disregarded creational laws – were banished.

On the basis of this information, what attitude should carry terrestrial humans through those turbulent 200 years that are in front of us?

I repeat my insight *) that we should base our life on a balance between “self-development” and “ compassion”. (whereas “compassion does not mean handouts” but teaching our fellow humans the laws that govern life and all creation}.

That this is possible is shown by the spirit form of Gabriel and Quetzal
I see as well the whole Plejaren mission as a proof for this admission:
The Plejaren have brought back a truth that was misconstrued by some of their own leaders and the Gize Intel.
By assisting us to find back to the truth about Creation they may not only assist our terrestrial evolution alone but – seeing the universe in oneness - take a step to bring Nokodemion's races together again - a necessary step in their own and universal evolution, too.
They may as well have those ancestors in mind who died here on Earth during their times of peace and are bound to re-incarnate on our planet.
Similar case in point:
Atlan returning to our planet to assist those left behind after the terrible war of Pelegon's races.

Petale says that a mistake is “neutralised in the [same] moment, when the mistake is detected and amended, so it then will knowingly no longer be made.”

Genesis does not explain how to ”amend “ mistakes.
The obvious choice would be to assist those that suffered from one’s wrongdoing.
It could as well be assisting others (that made the same mistake as one did) to master their failings..

As our planet was used to banish “gravely fallible ones” – and “(aggressive) gene manipulated ones” we do find many more aggressive(repeat) situations occurring here than on Erra (here on Earth: only 250 years of peace during the past 10,000 years) .
Many of these aggressive confrontations may be happening to give the consciousness of the gravely fallible ones another chance to evolve.
But all people on our planet have to go through them as well.

By devoting a part of their time *****) to assist others to overcome their mistaken views / habits or discussing methods what would best assist man’s evolution – by showing this “compassion” with our fellow man– we may live with more peace.

Not only would such “compassion cum creation inspired love" ******) minimise the need for the aggressive repeat situations we witness.
This world view would as well prevent the emergence of hate against those renowned for their past grave atrocities.

Why is this so important?
Because man does not only become what he loves.
But as well what he hates.

Salome,

Bill

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Part 1 – see: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80276

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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80121


*****)
This could as well be discussions with others on how the directives of creation affect their lives.
Each moment of our time given for the evolution – our own or others (even discussions on the Figu Forum) – will assist the evolution of our consciousness

******)
Semjase in CR 10:
“57. A human who is filled with love is also rich in wisdom, and a human who is rich in wisdom is also full of love.
Ein Mensch, der von Liebe erfüllt ist, ist auch reich an Weisheit, und ein Mensch, der reich an Weisheit ist, ist auch voller Liebe.
244. Those who are rich in spirit become an instrument, through which Creation expresses the spiritual realm
Die Reichen im Geiste werden zum Instrument durch das die Schöpfung das geistige Reich zum Ausdruck bringt
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Corey
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Bill, The 200 years ahead of us will definitely be turbulent. Will the serious climate disaster finally unite mankind? Will our payments of blood and tears for the crimes of overpopulation give our planet's people more sight, hearing, and speech about the creative-natural laws that govern the universe (including this planet Earth)? If all races of people unite out of necessity, and survivalness, will the people transition into a "we" centered culture because of learning gleaned from "rough patches" of experiencing the negative effects? Will this transition in the next 200 turbulent years be viewed by our descendants as planetary-consensus "altering" so we can regain our honour, and finally gain our footing for a civilization that is more "in tune" with the laws and recommendations of the Creation? Will all of these changes happen simultaneously with our broadening of our space programs, or will this be put on the back burner for 200 years?
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Bronzedesk
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Dear Tat

Very good call!

bronzedesk(Mat)
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Corey
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It is my genuine wish that in 201 years, our descendants are more adept at applying natural logic.


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Corey
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Bill (Tat),

I asked Christian Frehner some questions about the 200 year long prophecy, and his response was:

"Well, it is a warning, and 200 years is a long time on the one hand, and a relatively short time on the other hand when the future is considered.

I'm afraid that, as usual, terrestrial mankind will let the prophecy become a prediction by not taking the needed actions. I don't see any sensible actions taken anywhere, especially not regarding the overpopulation catastrophe. When our descendants will read Billy's text in 200 years from now, they will have reason to be angry about their ancestors, and most probably also about their contemporaries.

Kind regards, and Salome,
Christian"
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Corey
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~On this forum there are many variations of students. There are students who investigate the spiritual teaching very deeply, and fathom out the truth inside themselves about the creational laws and recommendations. There are students who are curious, and just dip there toes into the teaching (Lehre) a little because to them, the water is luke-warm. And then there are students in-between, and outside the two variations.

Some students wish to accuse the students from the first group of religiously following Meier, without the characteristic of free-willingly thinking for ourselves, just because we find meaningful resonation with the teaching. Some of us have been waiting our whole entire lifetime (or two +) to discover the material, and immerse ourselves fully.

The 23rd chapter of "Goblet" deals with authority figures, and those that have had a religion in their life as an authority figure, often misconstrue a students loyalty to BEAM and the mission to that of a religious-blind devotion, when often they are worlds apart.

Those of whom I am addressing may not be, as they say in my country, "picking up what I am putting down" (may not correctly understand what I am saying), and all I can say is after I read the section of the 23rd Chapter on authority figures, it made sense why some people, who are trying to free themselves from the chains of religion, often misconstrue other students. That is the beauty of the "Photo Inventarium" that MH has in stock, this is not a new religion, that demands subservience, you are free to come and go as you wish, to learn or not, and to those people who are interested, I can refer you to page 412-419 of the 23rd chapter of "Goblet of the Truth" (section of authority figures).

I also want to post a relevant verse from the 25th chapter. It is not my wish to "convince" you of some serious students of the teaching intentions, nor is it my wish to "sway", or "alter" your mentality regarding Billy, Switzerland, or the spiritual teaching, or make any sort of change. These are all things you have to work out yourself, deep inside, or not work them out [it's your personal destiny that you are in control of]. All human-beings in every universe will, after making mistakes, work out the natural creational truth eventually. It will just take some longer lifetimes then others to reach this culmination-point. Maybe this is your time, and maybe this is isn't.

pertinent verse:

25:49: "The only truthly truth-bringer are you yourselves, if you fathom and recognise the truthly truth in yourselves and in the creational laws and recommendations; and the true prophets, who bring you the ‹Goblet of the Truth›, the ‹Teachings of the Prophets›, i.e. the teaching of the truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of the life, they tell you merely what you shall look at and what you shall do in order to find the truth in yourselves and in the laws and recommendations of the Creation; the true prophets only teach you in the mode in the truth, so that you may find it in yourselves, just as they also only teach you in the causal connections of all things; however, they do not teach you to follow their words and their teaching submissively, but that you yourselves decide in yourselves for learning and fathom everything in yourselves, find the effective truth and follow it."

25:49 "Der einzige wahrheitliche Wahrheitsbringer seid ihr selbst, wenn ihr die wahrheitliche Wahrheit in euch und in den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten ergründet und erkennt; und die wahrlichen Propheten, die euch den ‹Kelch der Wahrheit›, die ‹Lehre der Propheten› resp. die Lehre der Wahrheit, die Lehre des Geistes, die Lehre des Lebens bringen, sie sagen euch nur, worauf ihr schauen und was ihr tun sollt, um in euch selbst und in den Gesetzen und Geboten der Schöpfung die Wahrheit zu finden; die wahrlichen Propheten belehren euch nur in der Weise in der Wahrheit, damit ihr diese in euch selbst zu finden vermögt, wie sie euch auch nur in bezug auf die kausalen Zusammenhänge aller Dinge belehren; nicht jedoch lehren sie euch, dass ihr demütig ihren Worten und ihrer Lehre Folge leisten sollt, sondern dass ihr euch in euch selbst zum Lernen entscheidet und alles in euch selbst ergründet, die effective Wahrheit findet und sie befolgt."

"Goblet of the Truth" 25:49/translated officially by FIGU-Switzerland/copyright FIGU-BEAM.
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~My thoughts are: those that are able to open-mindedly attach their consciousness to the creative-natural creational "swinging-waves" (electromagnetic vibratory frequencies) would not have it any other way, and this is the source of their loyalty. Someone afflicted by belief in a religion attaches their consciousness to unnatural human-created web of negative energy that does not come from the natural, nor the universe itself as an energy-giving life-force (Creation universal-consciousness).~
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~My thoughts 2.0: Billy writes in "God-delusion and God-Insanity" that until the non-beleivers, atheists, and students knowing of the truth (truth-knowers) unify, and make a stand against religion as "bearers of rationality", and be a positive force against the madness, the religious madness will continue to wreak havoc.~

~Billy also writes that unfortunately disaster will most likely have to roll over the Earth, before terrestrials are willing to outgrow religion. This does not mean the small group of us cannot agree to set aside our differences, and try and be a collective positive force instead of the negative forces of religion.~
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Corey, great post # 210

I have also come to learn that many well intended folks, are in a belief (assumption) that the Contact Reports are a source of the Spiritual Teaching.

It must be made clear to everyone who is interested in being actively engaged with humanity, that the Contact Reports are NOT the "Teaching of the Prophets", ie; the "spiritual teaching".

Everyone would be well advised to read Goblet Of The Truth chapter 9 verses 46-47.

http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/buecher/goblet-of-the-truth.pdf

“Goblet of the Truth“, chapter 9:
46) And if you are not equipped with good knowledge in the teaching of the truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of the life, then do not decide to go out in order to spread the truth-teaching, rather be averse to such because without sufficient knowledge you can do more harm than good (success), therefore you shall stay back (remain at home) with the other sedentary ones (ones remaining at home) if you are not sufficiently skillful (well-versed/well-read) in the teaching.
47) If you go out to spread the truth and you are not sufficiently skillful (well-versed/well-read), then you will increase the worries of those who are to be taught, and also your own worries, because it is through your insufficient knowledge in the truth that you will run backwards and forwards without finding any stability, which gives rise to discord between you and the ones to be taught because some will listen to you and some will be against you if you cannot explain the things of the truth to a sufficient extent (insufficiently), therefore leading to doubt and misunderstandings as well as outrage (acts of Gewalt).
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Yes, I've noticed over the years, this forum has taken a turn towards the Contact Reports are the source of the Spiritual Teaching, which has in fact caused most of the "misunderstandings, confusions, divisiveness", etc.

I'm glad We are being held accountable for our Actions, as I've been just as guilty for my behavior regarding some discussions.

Hopefully with the closure of certain "topics discussions", We can all get to the meat of our responsibilities as members of this forum.

peace and love
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Corey
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I kept this post as short as I could, the law of contrariness takes a lot of words, for Earth humanity who is overall not taught this cosmic law from their parents.

negative + positive = the oneness of equalisedness.

Probably the easiest example of visualizing the two opposing poles of energy, how the two poles balance one another, and form a oneness is the yin/yang symbol from Chinese philosophy.


This ancient symbol makes me wonder if there were ones inspired by the natural laws and recommendations living in ancient China, or if this was inspired by an ancient truth-bringer living in ancient China. Like the Celts were inspired by the ancient teaching (Lehre) of Henoch, this makes me wonder where else in the globe the truth historically tried to spring forth, to set down roots in the consciousness of ancient terrestrial humanity, only to be unsuccessful because of the passage of time, the negative forces of religion, the Bafath, etc. The Earth has a lot of hidden diamonds all over terrestrial history, if one knows where to look, that were likely "rolled over" by the forces of untruth, but one can never tamper-affect with the truth, it is timeless whether your people are knowledgeable about the truth, or if your people are like Earth humanity, many who are uneducated/unaware about the laws and recommendations of Creation.

In this new-time, because of FIGU, these ancient mysteries of truthly truth are once again dusted off, and presented anew to Earth humanity in the form of the teaching of the prophets. One of my personal favorites is the conceptualization of two opposing energetical poles of energy that form a oneness [law of contrariness]. GOT teaches the law of contrariness in 20:23, 20:29, 21:03-21:05, 21:17, 22:13.

(note: the 2 paragraphs are a summary only, not a direct translation). The German book "Arahat Athersata" calls this contrariness together-relationship a "hyper-polarity", a "hyper-oneness" that is the absolute equalisedness, and calls it a fundamental principle of life that has it's effect, and rightness in multifaceted life in the material, as well as the spiritual. Contrariness is observable in good and evil, positive and negative, the inner and the outer, joy and hardship, death and life, day and night, summer and winter, hot and cold, love and hate, and the male and the female, whose oneness = produces the act of procreation which is a principle-fundamental law of all life. (*)

For 2000 thousand years (note: since the birth of confused Christianity, and confused sciences) Earth humanity has been in forgetfulness of the natural law of contrariness, the duality that permeates everything as a complete oneness. Billy pens in verse 362 that if just one pole is present in the Earth human-being, that development of the consciousness and the spirit is not possible. This means that one has to strive for the state of equalisedness, both poles of energy unified as a oneness, producing a "hyper-oneness". (*)

A lot of newcomers misconstrue this state to strive for that it is okay to do bad, and unvirtuous. This is not the case, as according to AA good attracts further good to the life of the human-being, and bad attracts further bad to the life of the human-being. You have to have known hell, before you can know the heaven, which is a saying of Billy's that is not applying religiosity, it is implying one must know and understand the unvirtuous, to know, and become the virtuous, and one must strive for the virtuous and honourable, at all times. Further deference will lead to further virtue, and honourableness. Changing to the good as a human-being is the task, and duty of the student of the spiritual teaching.

The Creation itself lives as a unification-oneness of positive, and negative, as a oneness of both energies (100% negative energy + 100% positive energy = the Creation). So when one strives for the "neutral-positive" equalised state in their personal life, one has to strive to be like the Creation universal-consciousness as a balance of both energies in one's thoughts. Reading the encoded German helps one achieve this state, when I read GOT I attain a near meditative state, and the more calm and focused I am on the passages (the more I block out everyday, common thoughts = and allow the equalised thoughts and realizations to flow) the more equalised I am, and the higher the quality of the reading session. GOT is a big book, and I do not allow myself to be in a hurry to finish it, it's the quality of the reading that counts ("programming" one's consciousness).

When I once asked Billy what is the best way to achieve this oneness, and how one would know if they attained the state of negative-positive equalisedness, his answer was the following:

BEAM: "By learning and observing the spiritual teaching, by following the creational laws and recommendations, by developing love, peace, freedom etc. within oneself. Following the creational laws and recommendations also means willingness to help, modesty etc. etc.
If a person follows those principles, he/she will notice it automatically, if he/she thinks about it."
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* = summary of German passages in the book "Arahat Athersata" pages 107,108, page 141/copyright FIGU-BEAM age of Aquarius publishing.
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If you own the AA book, the AA pure-spirit-level relays an example of a motor-block that is compelling on page 106-107.
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Msmichelle
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I have a question and I'm not sure which area this question belongs but here goes:

What's the difference between Gewalt and Forceless Force Thinking and Actions?

In my line of work I often have to use forceful language in order to get individuals to follow a command which is usually done for their safety and my safety
MsMichelle
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2017 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MsMichelle,

I had to access my notes to properly answer you, as I wanted to ensure you had at least one response to your interesting question.

From GOT glossary page 597 (copyright FIGU-BEAM):

Gewalt: noun
-‹Gewalt› is the brutal execution of elemental might and force, but it is far above all might and all force. ‹Gewalt› exists in different and relative forms, one example being a ‹gewalttätige Gesinnung› – which is an expression from the character, personality, thoughts, feelings and emotions that shows the inclination to act with Gewalt.

Explanation from Ptaah - Gewalt has nothing to do with the terms ‹heftig› (violent) and ‹Heftigkeit› (violence), because the old-Lyranian term with regard to ‹Gewalt› means ‹Gewila›, and it is defined as using, with all the coercive means that are at one's disposal, physical, psychical, mental, and consciousness-based powers, abilities and skills, in order to carry out and carry through terrible actions and deeds.
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According to an old post by native German speaker Stefan, "Gewalt" can also mean the might force of nature, IE: a hurricane, or a earthquake.
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Regarding forced forcelessness/gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit:

The best explanation I have found for this is GOT 19:46 on page 363. Following the principles of Billy's concentrative-meditation, and attention-meditations-method in his first German med-book (thoughtless meditation) is also forced forcelessness, so one can have personal actions of this system, not just a world army.

I can provide all the other GOT verses about forced forcelessness if you desire to study them, as well as a paper I wrote for MH, but these are mainly the world army stuff, not one's personal actions in their personal life.

I admire you for what you do to ensure everybody you encounter at work follow's your instructions for your and their safety. In future centuries, I hope our planet develops an interstellar police-force to continue to bust the Bafath, and other outer-space criminals associated for what happened to our planet (as well as bust/banish our own terrestrial criminals.).
Salome/Corey Müske
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Hugo
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Msmichelle, in your line of work you may be very uncomfortable being a police woman when your country has massive civil wars soon and breaks up. You may/will be forced to do very bad/wrongs things to innocent people that you won't like doing which are against teachings you learned in Meier's spiritual material. Are you ready for that?
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2017 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo.. I study the Spiritual teaching daily throughout my work and life.... I know how to conduct myself at a higher standard therefore I will not do anything against the teaching..... what I will do is defend myself and defend the lives of others if I am able to.... if civil wars were to break out or happen, I will Retreat to a safe location and not attempt to be a hero.... if I lose my job in the process, so be it...
MsMichelle
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,

Can you please explain why Msmichelle (or anyone) may be forced to do very bad/wrong things to innocent people during times of a national crisis such as a civil war? I've held off asking this question, thinking I'm missing something, but for the life of me I can't understand how any situation, no matter how terrible, would ever compel someone to act unlawfully towards innocent people unless that person has criminal intentions.

Perhaps that isn't what you mean by "doing bad/wrong things"
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Justsayno
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you honestly think your local govt or non local govt have your best interests at heart, you really don't know your government at all. It usually starts with mistakes then a whole lot of bum covering usually to the point where the bum covering far outweighs the need to tell citizens the truth. That's how it works and I don't see any laws or bylaws in place that changes this. The governments first response is always to themselves.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joseph.... I think Hugo is talking about police brutality in USA....which is at a all time High and it is an actual fact certain police officers are and have killed innocent people especially black people...
MsMichelle
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Scott
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This passage from "The Way to Live" Pg 206, line 274 may be applicable to citizens and the police as well:

If a human being nurtures and follows the recommendations of the decency, then the fellow human beings are willing to be of service and they give him/her respect.

Scott

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