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Hugo
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Post Number: 409
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 03:52 pm: | 
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Msmichelle, I thought you would consider doing that. Good on you! If I were a cop I too would throw in my job if that situation arises.
Joseph_emmanuel,
I was meaning when them big civil wars in US start law enforcement will be ordered/forced to crack down and do wrong things to public to control the masses and keep their power. One example is loss of human rights. Another is the public being treated as the enemy of the state, police brutality, beatings, murders, police having right to be above the law, ect. Your imagination can come up with other scenarios/things or you can look at what happened to other nations with civil wars in past. |
Votan
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Post Number: 802
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2017 - 03:53 pm: |
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Msmichelle
Your job is not easy. I thought about becoming a police officer but seeing all the idiots out there , I changed my mind.
It is so easy to become hardened and use forceful language.
I gave advice to my god daughter about this when she was in the force. Do not stoop to get to their level under any circumstance. In a way you will get the respect.
Unfortunately many join the force for power and they should be dismissed.
joe
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2017 - 06:21 am: |
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With most of the encounters I have with people on the street, I do the best I can to stress to them to think Logical,rational,and reasonable and do everything in their powers Not to have the police involved in their lives.... some things are unavoidable... after reading GOT and contact reports, it became crystal clear to me the potential for harm due to unreasonable ordinances, fines, infractions, unreasonable amount of surveillance via databases Etc.... 95% of my encounters are respectful and positive
MsMichelle
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Corey
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Post Number: 278
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 - 05:35 pm: |
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~In the future, our society will be based out of the contrariness of a positive arising out of a negative. The negative being overpopulation and our pursuit of material wealth, and our propensity for war and terrorism. Our collective foolishness will be our greatest instructor. Those that follow the laws and recommendations of the Creation have the support of nature itself, and the support of the natural energy-flows of the universe (the Creation). All that is needed is a little patience and self-control [inner-state of balance of the equalisedness = dual energy], before this becomes your destiny.~
PS footnote: support of nature = just meditate in a park (free-nature) until the cool, refreshing, calming breeze blows to you in support because of your [energetical] presence. This could also be tied into your frequency of the storage-banks.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Corey
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Post Number: 287
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2017 - 11:02 pm: |
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~Consciousness-liberation and the law of contrariness:
I am daily learning how to become like an epitome of the law of contrariness. Extracting the opposite energy from something (to become that opposite something) is what I mean, ie changing from unknowledgeable in the truth to more wise in progressive-steps.
~instead of being afraid, I am courage.
~instead of being weak, I am strong.
~instead of being closed-off to my fellow humans, I provide them love and assistance.
It is recommended to become stronger in the teaching (die Lehre) on a daily basis, an hour of reading at a time.~
The law of contrariness can be studied about in GOT 20:23, 20:29, 21:03-21:05, 21:17, 22:13, (25:160-25:161), (28:49-28:50) with an emphasis with this post on 21:17 [towards positive-change]. If you can read German, I can provide verses in the "Arahat Athersata" book.
The reason you want to utilize the law of contrariness, and extract the opposite energy to become what you desire, is to become stronger in the teaching (die Lehre) to attract the power of the beneficialness to your thoughts, feelings, deeds, etc, and this is similar to the "boomerang-effect".
28:117: "The law of the interaction and hence also your destiny, you human beings of Earth, is triggered by attracting again various same-kinds through the motion of a creation, such as thoughts, feelings, deeds and actions as well as an activity of any kind, just as these same-kinds are themselves also attracted by such, and this results in a symbiotic connection out of which an immense power-source comes about; the whole accumulates to a great energy with great power which acts as a sender and sends back everything to the former."
28:117: "Das Gesetz der Wechselwirkung und damit auch euer Schicksal, ihr Erdenmenschen, wird dadurch ausgelöst, indem durch die Bewegung einer Erzeugung, wie Gedanken, Gefühle, Handlungen und Taten sowie ein Wirken jeder Art, wieder verschiedene Gleicharten angezogen werden, wie diese selbst auch von solchen angezogen werden, wodurch sich ein Zusammenschluss ergibt, woraus eine ungeheure Kraftquelle entsteht; das Ganze kumuliert zur grossen Energie mit grosser Kraft, die als Sender wirkt und alles an den Urheber zurücksendet."
~The 28th chapter of GOT instructs a great deal on cause and effect, the law of interaction, destiny (destiny-causes/destiny-effects), swinging-waves. There is another iteration about your self-chosen destiny in 28:122.
28:122: "Apart from all the many factors which carry out everything necessary out of and in you, many things of the gigantic power-source of the universe are also acting in you, but actually there is nothing amongst you human beings of Earth with regards to your self-created destiny for which you do not first give the cause thereto yourselves."
28:122: "Nebst all den vielen Faktoren, die aus und in euch selbst alles Notwendige verrichten, wirken auch sehr viele Dinge der gigantischen Kraftquelle des Universums in euch, aber tatsächlich gibt es bei euch Erdenmenschen nichts in bezug auf euer selbsterschaffenes Schicksal, wozu ihr nicht eigens zuerst die Ursache dazu gebt."
~Thoughts, feelings, actions, deeds, etc, all choose your destiny in real-time, that manifests itself as the power of interaction, in the effects of the causes you choose in real-time through the natural attraction-motions of the Creation's laws and recommendations..
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* = "Goblet of the Truth" 28:117 and 28:122/translated officially by FIGU-Switzerland/copyright FIGU-BEAM (Creative Commons).
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Corey
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Post Number: 288
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2017 - 11:36 pm: |
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Clarification: One daily hour of reading is the recommended allotment. FIGU calls this your "silent hour" (Stille Stunde).
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Tyler
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2017 - 01:11 pm: |
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I had an experience today that I would like to share, because I think it actually lines up with the "law of contrariness". May I share it with the forum? |
Corey
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Post Number: 289
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Monday, July 10, 2017 - 03:30 pm: |
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Salome Tyler,
We're all ears. We love experiences with the law of contrariness.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 819
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 08:30 am: |
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Success & Achieving
Might Of The Thoughts (pg. 230)
The world and the life are not enriched with all kinds of problems, obstacles and difficulties for no reason, because they are actually there so that the human being learns from them and produces strong qualities from them.
Goblet Of The Truth (Ch. 21 v. 5)
However, a closer observation and consideration of the law of the contrariness leads to the recognition that the basic prerequisites, basic thoughts and the thereout resulting basic feelings can by no way be regarded as scourges of you human beings, because they fundamentally represent challenges through which the life is primarily made worth living, since it is through this encouragement – which is what the challenge actually is – that more and more truth-cognitions, joy and more and more deep sense-reality is extracted from the life.
Might Of The Thoughts (pg. 230)
Henok already coined the saying, "When a matter requires perseverance and persistence, then those with perseverance and persistence must take on the work, because those without persistence, and those who are yielding, destroy the values of the thing and lead a matter into annihilation."
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Corey
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Post Number: 353
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 05:52 pm: |
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World peace stabilized, created, and generated through forced forcelessness (gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit), and the value of human life and human dignity should never be trifled with, and they have to be foundation stones of our civilization.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."
27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Luisafonsocapitene
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2017
| | Posted on Monday, October 30, 2017 - 02:14 am: |
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Good morning, all members of the figu, I am Luis Afonso Capitene, I am from Mozambique of the city of Maputo, capital of Mozambique. I would like to inform you that unfortunately I do not understand or speak, and I do not write in English very fluently, help from a translator, I mean an application, I hope you understand if there are grammatical errors in my later posts. Now I have a question regarding the term Logic, I would like to know what to understand with this term and how to use it correctly. Thank you |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 791
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 10:14 pm: |
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Luisafonsocapitene,
That is a very good question; you said, “…regarding the term Logic, I would like to know what to understand with this term and how to use it correctly.”
First, “As the ultimate power, Creation embodies the universal consciousness and the spirit of the spirit, all truth, wisdom, and love, all LOGIC, the laws and commandments and energies of life, of being, and of eternity. Creation, as universal self-awareness, is the source of life of all creations within its domain, which is to say, within its universe.”…
With that in mind, in my opinion, LOGIC deals with the principles and criteria of validity and the demonstration of formal principles of reasoning and sequence of facts or events when seen as inevitable or predictable.
Here are some quotes from Billy Eduard Albert Meier (BEAM) that goes into a little more detail.
“Whoever is not really a believer, rather is simply one who goes along with it, has by now at the latest, after consideration, noticed that something cannot be correct. And here is exactly where God-delusion and God-delusion Insanity, comes in. "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier shows, in truth and logic and with clear, precise, pointed, but also incisive words – without wanting to offend the believing Earth humans – why there is no god and no creator-god, as well as why there are no gods and no tin gods. He shows, instead, that it is thereby to do with a delusion which has been inherited, caused by indoctrination, has been instilled, or has been voluntarily created, and therefore is to do with a form of schizophrenia…
The believers of the respective religions unfortunately do not realise that "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier (BEAM), is actually the truthful prophet of the new time, because their consciousness, violated by the many false teachings, is no longer in a position to recognise the truth and logic in the explanations. (See also Goblet of Truth, the book of the entire teaching of the prophets.)…
Belief and Knowledge – Colour-radiations of the Consciousness
Each of the countless levels of consciousness pertaining to a human consciousness radiates a colour according to the given state of evolution. (See following tables.) The pink and violet belief-vibrations belong to the lowest level, therefore to the primary development of the consciousness. According to statements from Billy, the majority of Earth humanity finds itself in the transition between (2.) violet and (3.) green – a fact about which nobody can be proud because that means that a great proportion of Earth humanity is closer to the human-primates, in so far as rationality, intellect, knowledge, logic and wisdom are concerned, than that which a human can generally achieve with his or her consciousness, and also will do so, one fine day – after millions of years lived, again and again, each time as a new personality, but with the same spirit form (7. blue).”…
http://theyfly.com/God_Delusion.html
Hope that helps
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 792
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 11:21 am: |
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Luisafonsocapitene,
Logically, I should have included these examples of the word Logic as well.
The Logical or illogical nature of the human mind
The logic and the illogic in the various degrees of education.
Logically reasoning and argumentation
The logic in the order of our thoughts.
There was no logic in replacing the flimsy table with one just as weak.
Sherlock Holmes used his observation, knowledge, and logic to solve crimes.
Religion is not logical; but in fact illogical.
The treatise of Varenius is a model of logical arrangement and concise expression. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 716
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 12:10 am: |
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Human Life - a Part of Universal Creation
Everything that exists, exists in oneness.
Is from the same creational source and destined to the same creational source:
The human being is not outside but a part of Creation.
Because all springs from “one and the same” and is destined to become “one and the same”, it is “one and the same”.
This oneness is what the word “universe” truly expresses.
What all its laws support.
What is it that quantum physics wants our scientists to discover?
Matter does not always exist, does not give rise to consciousness.
It is consciousness that has always existed, continually changes and gives rise to life and matter.
And that everything has a consciousness and is connected with everything – is a “unified field”.
So if you think differently of reality – the quantum connects differently.
In a nutshell: a different consciousness - a different reality.
Repeat a different thought – it will create a different consciousness.
A different consciousness will not only connect and send the many autonomous cells in your body on a new congruous path.
It will as well connect with the whole universe around you, its unified field or consciousness and connect with similar thoughts.
And they altogehter will start to create a different reality for you.
This is why man should think, speak and “create” with loving empathy for all Creation.
IN ONENESS.
It will lead him to his true “true self”.
The empathy and love that underlies all Creation...
Salome,
Bill |
Luisafonsocapitene
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Post Number: 2
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| | Posted on Friday, November 10, 2017 - 07:41 am: |
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Thanks for the reply. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 418
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 07:31 am: |
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Here's my observation on the understanding of Logic
What I've noticed in some of the postings I'm reading (in all sections)it appears we are attempting to Force Logic into Our Illogical Behavior.... in other words Logic is Logic, Illogical is Illogical.... for example, religion is illogical ...there's no Logic anywhere in religion... from what I understand, Logic is simple and Direct... it leaves no room for Irrational Illogical Unreasonable thinking and behavior.... Due to our attempting to force Logic ...it's essentially driving us crazy... hopefully that makes sense?
Any comments?
MsMichelle
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 396
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 09:13 am: |
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As I see it, logic is a process of reasoning from which naturally follows one true statement after another.
So for example, a seed germinates in the ground and becomes a seedling, which then grows into a plant, flowers, pollinates, disperses its seeds, etc.
From the seedling stage one knows that the ground needs to be wet and receive sunlight...
Each of these statements are true and, therefore, logical.
If something doesn’t have its basis in nature (natural), it can’t be logical because it will be something that is imposed, forced, like being told that two plus two equals five.
This is what religion does, which is why it is illogical.
I don’t agree that logic can be forced, or is being forced. The danger of that approach is illogic because logic by its very nature is natural. People need to learn to think for themselves and judge for themselves without being told this is how it is. We need to come to that conclusion by ourselves, naturally, through the natural application of logic.
“Application” is the operative word here, because it is through experience (applying ourselves) both intellectually and physically that we arrive at logic.
That’s my own understanding of it. I didn’t get it from studying the spirit teaching or reading the FIGU material. I hope that’s OK. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 849
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 09:31 am: |
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I would say that true logic goes hand in hand with true love, as it pertains to the creation of a Creation for the purpose of the evolution of the human consciousness and its spiritform to reach the Absolute-Absolutum and beyond.
With this in mind one can better perceive, recognize and evolve (learn) from the light of Creation.
From the perspective of the evolution, logic and love then determine all laws and recommendations of the existence, the formations, the passing away and reformation into being... so that the consciousness can learn through tens of millions of years through reincarnations until evolving no more into human form.
The passing away and becoming again allows for the younger and still evolving to also have the opportunity of tens of millions of years of learning and evolving through the greatest teacher of all --by example.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 800
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 11:56 am: |
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Msmichelle,
I’m no bible scholar nor do I intend to be! Some of the statements that I do sort of remember regarding Logic and Illogical are in the bible:
Logical:
> Do unto other as you would have them do unto you.
Illogical:
> God destroyed the tower of babble because the people were trying to take heaven by force.
> Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt because she looked....
> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Billy says that the bible is a book of lies, I totally agree with this. |
Tyler
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 05:00 pm: |
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I want to add in a post to provide my insight about your question, Michelle. It is somewhat long, and I don't really wish to just ... give a long answer exactly.
I have my thoughts about the matter, though, so how must I proceed to deliver them, without lording over the possibility for a useful discussion and dialogue? |
Tyler
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Post Number: 176
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 07:08 pm: |
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Humans gain an increased capability to think in lpgic when they make use of the "spirit prayers" created by Nokodemion.
Then their use of language changes and their inner attitude toward many things taking place in reality changes, becoming aligned with the perfect logic of the creational-natural laws.
To think in logic means to grasp how everything that takes place in reality relates to, and is actully solely explainable through, the creational-natural laws and recommendations. |
Tyler
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 07:19 pm: |
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Nothing can be properly explained through beliefs or assumptions, because everything this is believed to be taking place is just a hazy picture and an instance of false, incorrect evaluation of the actual absolute causes and effects taking place in reality.
Once a human gains the capability to think in logic, though, then their whole understanding toward the beliefs and traditions of believers in religions changes in a very valuable wise to one of being able to explain the absolute causes and effects of things that they just accept based on a pre-given assumption.
So logic is really an entire consciousness-bearing, through which everything that takes place in reality in both the coarse matter realm and fine-fluidal realm is explained through the perfect logic of the working causality of creational activity.
Instance, if a human now believes in the power of protective talismans, then to grasp how it really is in logic means to grasp and fathom where the so-called "protection effect" truly originates from, namely from the human's own mental block as salubrious swinging waves that they themselves initiate through theor own might of the thoughts.
This is, to my best ability of explanation, what logic means in the case of the spirit teaching. |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 296
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 07:46 am: |
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Msmichelle and all
"Here's my observation on the understanding of Logic "
Logic is an application of observed and consistent laws and occurrences that have proven themselves over time.
When someone tells us that we must do something like they say it must be done and it doesn't match up with the reality we can feel that in our logic/illogic detector so to speak. Our consciousness alerts us as it compares what is being proposed and what we know as reality.
Now when someone that lives in irriallity and someone throws out the opposite or a conflicting view, then that person may try to mix the two in some fashion. As we have been told in the contact reports that eventually the religions of the world will have to incorporate Reincarnation into their doctrines because their followers will have accepted that teaching as reality.
To be honest I did have some trouble with the teachings at first because they were a lot to digest, but you know the worst part or the most shocking was the blatant deception and out and out lies that have been perpetrated on us. My first exposure to the material was the professor's comparison of the TJ to the book of matthew.
It will take time, people are comfortable, complacent and ignorant. It's still amazes me how many people don't care about the meaning of life or they are happy with their version of reality at this time.
Peace, Matt |
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