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Cpl
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Post Number: 990
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2018 - 08:37 am: | 
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Hi Hugo,
Re: "why incense can do this" in your post 536. In addition to answers already mentioned above, I would add that I have sensed incense can somewhat infuse its smoke into objects. Its aroma and nature-soaked dense, aromatic frequency begin to become absorbed into the objects exposed as they gradually become gcuredh or smoked, and this probably affects the nature of their fluidal forces, assisting them to become more nature-balanced if they have become unnaturally balanced due to negative exposure. It would seem a given that due to the dense structure of many of the objects that those above mentioned "dailyh applications would be most beneficial, if not necessary.
Yes, I think sage too, thanks, Linda. I have met at least one Indian shaman who used sage for similar cleansing processes, and Ifm sure many Americans (both native and modern) in the SW States and elsewhere are also familiar with this.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 537
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2018 - 04:29 pm: |
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Thanks Cpl,
So does that mean that one does not have to continuously keep burning incense sticks all day to neutralize negative fluidal forces from a house? One stick a day enough? This is why I was concerned about burning sticks all day and having to inhale all that smoke. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 991
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 - 05:13 am: |
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Hi Hugo,
Well, this is just my opinion, but presumably the more incense or nature-smoke (if I can call it that) per day would probably be quicker and more effective, but, of course, we have to take our human condition into account. Some people will much less tolerate the smoke than others. I, for example, have an allergy to smoke. So I would burn the incense whenever I'm not there, and take care to see that the ash would fall into a safe container or dish. Falling ash can burn or scorch plastic tops or vinyl coverings (something I have experienced), and that could potentially be dangerous if no one is around to watch it. So taking the usual precautions would apply.
A colleague once left a fragrant candle burning on top of his TV before a friendly get together, and went out. Upon returning, his room was full of highly toxic smoke because the candle had burnt down to the plastic TV which had then started to melt. He caught it before a fire broke out, but it was pretty scary, and the get together was cancelled due to the acrid toxic smoke which took hours to fully clear out.
Incense would be safer, but I have experienced slightly melted plastic table or shelf top covers from incense ash that somehow flew aside.
Also, you might check the incense is NOT set over a ceiling smoke detector. Smoke detectors are increasingly installed as popular home safety devices and one going off could cause an inconvenient disturbance.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Mait
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 - 06:24 am: |
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I am wondering , does tobacco smoke have same effect on the room as incense does?! I think that incense have more harmonizing effect than tobacco have. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 902
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 - 08:56 am: |
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Hello Hugo,
Certain plants such as herbs, do contain certain phytonutrients and other factors that surely benefit the air around us and our health.
But as I have come to realize, the clearing of negative fluidal forces through the use of plants has more to do with the creational recommendation that teaches that we use the might and power of our Consciousness for good, virtuous and useful purposes and reasons.
Through correct knowledge, one realizes the construct of the consciousness, the psyche and our fluidal forces (swinging waves) ...as it is explained in the Goblet Of The Truth.
So through this process we can confirm these facts and reality and begin to learn from that which is within us, referring to the consciousness, the psyche and fluidal forces (swinging waves).
Interestingly, it appears that a principle of the We-Form is inherent and is taught through the ability to channel the abilities of the consciousness and concentrate its power when we use another creation of the Creation such as plants and so on to clear out negative fluidal forces.
So the Might Of The Thoughts can be experienced and thereby harnessed through the use of sage or incense. As it has already been advised above, we should also apply the creational recommendation of modesty. So precautions and moderation in all things is important, as well as the thinking and feeling state of the psyche when burning sage or incense.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Post Number: 538
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 - 04:44 pm: |
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Thanks Cpl and Eddie!
I think I will set up a fail safe burn proof area for the incense to burn and will burn it when I am out and when I am sleeping in my bedroom. That should reduce the smoke I have to breath in. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 592
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 11:35 pm: |
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Should people get rid of their OLD clothes, furniture, jewellery, ect, that they had for a long time if they think differently (better) now after finding and studying Meier's spiritual teachings? About 10 years ago I suffered depression for about 3 years, and also my thinking is much better now then what it used to be like for most of my life. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 909
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2018 - 08:59 am: |
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Hugo,
Interesting thought, Should people get rid of their OLD clothes, furniture, jewellery, ect, IMO, if these items continually remind you of difficult times or creates a gridlock/congestion or hindrance/interference of truthful thinking, meditation etc.; then follow your inner creative consciousness on the proper action. From my prospective and experience, the development of spiritual consciousness directly affects Fluidalforces, consequently certain items are enhanced so to speak with the higher frequency of Fluidalenergies, overlapping the old. Yes, in my case, there have been some item that were discarded do to energies that were now found offensive, for lack of a better word.
Kenneth |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 593
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 12:41 am: |
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Kenneth, my old favorite clothes I don't wear often but some of my furniture is my main concern. My bed mattress is a couple of years old but the chunky wooden base it sits on I've had for about 20 years. A bed and the close surrounding furniture would surely have lots of my old fluidal forces. I don't know if it is warranted but I think I may change them as I think much better then I used too. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 912
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 09:39 am: |
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Hugo,
You may want to keep in mind; if you buy used furniture you may be dealing with other persons Fluidalenergies issues? Much of todays new furniture is made with Particleboard (sawdust/woodchips glued together) with toxic chemicals, utilizing plastic laminate or wood veneer which is also glued in place. The outgassing of this type of furniture is unhealthy for all life forms, but its very inexpensive to manufacture. New furniture with solid wood is expensive, unless you go with steel bed-frames.
Its my understanding that Fluidalenergies do not accumulate as well in denser material like steel etc. verses various kinds of wood and other less dense materials?
Kenneth |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 595
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 01:09 pm: |
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Kenneth, I always buy new furniture, clothes, ect. About the only thing I buy used are cars and house. Thanks, I will avoid particle board. |
Hoota_thunk
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 07-2017
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 05:03 pm: |
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Hey you two, this conversation reminds of hearing that one can "clean" things like the "little ones" did at the centre, I presume, and crystals and the like. I vaguely remember one of the Plejaren mentioning this, which makes me want to learn how to do this to the car I bought 2nd hand a year ago and about 8.9billion fellow human beings. 
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Quiet Revolution Of Truth -
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 926
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 05:14 pm: |
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A while ago I was trying to explain the Fluidalforce and associated energies to an interested person. Was thinking to myself, if only there was a short video that could be observed? A few days later, I found these YouTube videos from the FIGU Landesgruppe Canada organization; these videos are only about a year old, it was exactly what I was looking for.
FIGU-Landesgruppe Canada
10:10
Fluidal Energies Part 1:
Fluidalenergie resp. the mental Fluidalforce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bshmk1lXjSg
15:19
Fluidal Energies Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wMKGQAG2Lw
14:16
Fluidal Energies Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OWd9ZkGOJc
Kenneth |
Votan
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Post Number: 894
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 09:17 am: |
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Does anybody know if Billy ever mentioned how to get rid of bad fluidal energy in a room.
My daughter swears that a bedroom of hers has bad energy.
joe
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 938
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 05:29 pm: |
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Votan,
You mentioned, "how to get rid of bad fluidal energy in a room." As you probably know, this could be from someones death in that house or room; there are other issues associated with reincarnation as well.
Nonetheless, as I recall, meditation, good music and the proper incense to name a few will help remove bad Fluidal Energy.
Kenneth |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1045
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 12:13 am: |
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Hi Votan,
I think it depends in the type of fluidal energy -- its source. From someone who previously lived there, my understanding is that it should dissipate over time. Also/Otherwise a strong neutral positive energy of the new occupants can kind of clean it out by replacing the former fluidal energies with your own or those of the new occupants. Billy has said something on this. Maybe someone else can find the exact source and advice.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 985
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2019 - 04:37 pm: |
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Regarding the Fluidalforce and Fluidalenergies and something that I wanted to share with those in the knowledge of the Spiritual Teaching.
My son was born with Cystic Fibrosis (CF); those that are not aware, this is apparently an inherited life-threatening disorder which is a progressive, genetic disease that causes persistent lung infections and limits the ability to breathe over time. In people with CF mutations in the cystic fibrosis transmembrane of the conductance regulator (CFTR) gene cause the CFTR protein to become dysfunctional.
In July of 1999 in my sons bedroom, Christopher passed away in my arms at the age of 16 years, as he suffocated due to lung failure. The emotion and pain at the time was indescribable.
Christophers room was untouched for several years. From time to time I would enter his room and sensed a connection of sorts that I could not explain. It was a bonding beyond emotion and beyond psychological; I didnt understand it. Nonetheless, as time passed, so did the connection relationship.
I was introduced to the Billy Meier material in 2013 by a retired Air Force OSI (Office of Special Investigations) agent that I worked with in the Aerospace industry. This is when I became aware of the Fluidalforce and Fluidalenergies information.
The mental Fluidalforce, is basically the emitted personal mental radiation/vibes resp. the oscillation and energy as well as the forces of the mental block of the person concerning his thoughts, feelings, of the psyche and the consciousness, so the mental oscillations that radiate from the human eventually holds itself in objects as well as places and in the skeleton etc. This can, as be introduced comparatively as the breath of the body (= Prana) which enters invisibly by the nose into the lungs and flows out again through the nose, consequently in this manner the emission of the mental Fluidalforce can be compared.
Billy
As I understand it today, these interrelationships to the Human mental (consciousness) capabilities deals with the sixth and seventh senses. The understanding of the mental Fluidalforce explained what I did not understand back in 1999. Today, almost all of Christophers Fluidalenergies have dissipated, only memories remain now.
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 667
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2019 - 07:34 pm: |
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Kenneth, sad to hear that, and I can imagine how tough the emotion and pain at the time may have been.
I know a couple who's teenage son recently died in freak accident and they keep his bedroom exactly how it was when he died except for the addition of photos of him on the walls. They tell me when they despair over him they often go sit in his room for long periods of time and it somewhat soothes them. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 986
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2019 - 11:35 pm: |
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Hugo,
I appreciate your kind thoughts. Thanks to the Spiritual Teaching, I now have this situation completely under control.
That being said, depending on the over population issue, 1.52 times his lifespan in the beyond (fine-matter world), his spirit-form should reincarnate with a new personality around the year 2023.
However, I also realize that such calculations today are pretty much useless because the reincarnation cycles have been permanently damaged due to the overpopulation catastrophe.
As I understand it, the reincarnation cycle will never again return to a normal ratio on Earth because already too many spirit-forms have been "activated due to overpopulation.
Nonetheless, I got to experience and now understand Fluidalforce and Fluidalenergies first hand.
Sincerely and
Salome
Kenneth |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 500
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - 06:13 am: |
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Kenneth, post 985, was very loving and touching tribute to your son. The Spiritual Teaching does help to relieve the pain of the death of a love one, however, I'm sure you will forever "feel" your son's presence, because we are forever a "part" of this planet's existence. Also having the first hand experience is exactly what is required in order to comprehend the Spiritual Teaching. Book knowledge only will not do in my opinion.
MsMichelle
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Hugo
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Post Number: 668
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - 04:44 pm: |
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Kenneth, my understanding was if a person died young the spirit form knows it did not live a full life and will reincarnate far earlier to make up for the lost full life. So he may have been reincarnated already. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 987
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 11:54 am: |
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Hugo,
Ah yes, thanks for reminding me about that, its not that Ill be looking. Nonetheless, its interesting how from time to time we will meet certain folks that we have an immediate deep spiritual knowing or connection with. Not talking about marriage or partners; taking about random encounters. In one way or another, you know that particular spiritform from a previous life. The more that we study the Spiritual Teaching, the more sensitive we become to this. In my opinion, this goes beyond Fluidalenergies.
Salome
Kenneth |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 846
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 01:32 pm: |
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Very sorry for your loss Kenneth, losing a child is probably one of the most devastating experiences and the one that takes the longest to go through. I too found logical explanations in 6th and 7th senses that happened to me that could not be explained anywhere else.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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