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Niko_sulonen
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2018 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Getknowledge,

Then we are in agreement, because we speak of the same thing just dressed in different words.

I only have a hard time understanding my fellow human beings who stubbornly refuse to recognize this truth in themselves. Why wouldn't they want to experience it too? Instead they repeatedly, on a daily basis, beat their consciousness into submission and then whine that life has no meaning for them and drag everyone else with them into the depths of their psychic hell. Helpless creatures they are, having blinded themselves and then wondering why they cannot see.
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2018 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Getknowledge,

"Imagine when 90% of the world realize there is no God or the Devil..." That will be heavenly ;-)

Kenneth
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Niko_sulonen
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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2018 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Human Being is a Spiritual Being and His/Her own Ruler

Throughout many lifetimes the human being grows in his spirit and shall become more knowing and wise in the essence of love and wisdom. First the human being only struggles with pure worldly problems and mainly identifies himself with his material existence, his thoughts and his body, and his belongings, which he then grieves over shall anything unbecoming happen to his worldly material life. This of course is part of the evolution for the human being and is therefore the normal way to go, but as time unstoppably goes on, so does his evolution reach ever new heights in which ever new lessons and struggles present themselves.

And as time goes on, then the first cognitions into his spiritual essence start to form themselves and allow the human being to peek into the magnificent existence of the spiritual, which was once still hidden from him. Slowly a new identity starts emerging, an identity without name, connected with everything in eternal timelessness; it is his spiritual consciousness awakening in himself, which allows him to identify himself with everything in existence, with the simple yet profound truth of existence and with the eternal love from which everything endlessly grows out from.

And the more he identifies himself with his spiritual consciousness the more powerful he grows in life; he becomes the master and ruler over everything in his life and sits on a magnificent throne in a palace radiating with the most beautiful bright light of love and wisdom from where he overlooks and controls everything in his life with love and wisdom.

And he shall no longer identify himself only with the purely material, but also with the love and wisdom which have accumulated in his spirit through uncountable lifetimes, through which he recognizes his finite worldly existence as an infinite expression of the spiritual creative life-force which enlivens him as a tiny part of the great spiritual creative life-force. And with that he shall recognize that he has then taken the first small step to leave behind his material existence, to someday in the far future enter into and become one with the eternal love and BEING of the Creation, the great eternal life-force which has always been and always will be.
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Niko_sulonen
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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2018 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Finity in Infinity

The inner world of the human being is in it's nature an infinite realm of infinite possibilities expressed in finite manifestations. To give a crude example of finite infinity, one could start counting numbers from the moment they are born, but could only count to a finite number out of the infinite numbers available simply because they would at some point in time inevitably meet death and go along with the eternal law of becoming and passing away, a law which in itself also demonstrates the finity in infinity.

Everything is available for the human being in his/her consciousness; infinite possible states of consciousness, thoughts, feelings and actions expanding into infinite possible effects from the infinite possible causes. The human being has been granted the free will and freedom to explore this infinite realm within him, that makes it possible for him/her to make the life his/her own. Everything the human being chooses to be and to accomplish in life is an finite expression of this infinite realm within him/her. This finity is necessary for evolution, because only through finite fundamental study of life in each lifetime is it possible to gain the necessary cognitions, love, wisdom and all other values destined for that lifetime.

If there was only infinity without finity, there would be no need for a material universe of any kind or for an evolution to take place, because everything would collapse on itself in a mighty implosion the moment everything popped into existence, since all the values would be then and there processed and experienced without any learning taking place.

Yet as the finity can be experienced through infinity, then also the infinity can be experienced through finity. If we take a small finite piece of infinite wisdom and dedicate ourselves to studying in, then inevitably we start to gain more new and deeper cognitions from it, which then expand to ever more new and deeper cognitions and creating always more and new wisdom out of it. The finite in our lives is like a shining doorway for us to enter into the infinite realm of love and wisdom from which we can then expand our lives, but always in a finite manner.

It is then to be seen and recognized that the infinite realm in us is the creative part of us, a brightly radiating kingdom of wisdom, love, peace and harmony from which everything comes forth into our existence and makes a life of infinite possibilities available for us. The one who recognizes the infinite realm within himself/herself then truly becomes the master of life and shall live in the wisdom that everything is truly possible for him/her and nothing will take that freedom away from him/her.
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Corey
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Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2019 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Studying the spiritual teaching can give one inner and outer peace, inner and outer freedom, love, consonance, harmony, knowledge, logic, and wisdom and one becomes more knowing and wise.~

Once you become more knowing and wise you cross the threshold into a "truth-knower" or also "one who is knowledgeable about the truth", and also your intellect and rationality and your sageness (true discernment) will grow exponentially.~

You will also learn to do right in all things, and be equitable, fair, conscientious, righteous, and become a fair one and an honourable one from studying the teaching of the prophets and learning in your daily life as you learn to stand by the people of your kind in all things.~

~For those who do not think the vast majority of the world should admonished and should be studying the spiritual teaching, although it must be done in a way that is w/o coercion, see GoT 8:25 about gathering all people to the truth before the downfall of humanity:

25: "Do rightfully in all things and learn everything about the truth that you can learn; therefore listen to the true prophets, when they call you with the teaching of the truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of the life which is their teaching and is created from the laws and recommendations of the creation of all things (Creation); and learn the truth from the teaching of the prophets so that you give yourselves true life and know that you must gather all people of your kind (humankind) to the truth if you do not want to suffer your downfall and one day want to depart (migrate/emigrate) into the firmaments (universe) and onto the earths (worlds/planets)."

25: "Tut in allen Dingen des Rechtens und lernt alles um die Wahrheit, was ihr erlernen könnt; also hört auf die wahrlichen Propheten, wenn sie euch rufen mit der Lehre der Wahrheit, der Lehre des Geistes, der Lehre des Lebens, die ihre Lehre ist und erschaffen aus den Gesetzen und Geboten der Erschaffung aller Dinge (Schöpfung); und lernt die Wahrheit aus der Lehre der Propheten, auf dass ihr euch selbst wahres Leben gebt und wisst, dass ihr euch alle Euresgleichen (Menschheit) zur Wahrheit versammeln müsst, wenn ihr nicht untergehen wollt und dereinst in die Himmel (Universum) und auf die Erden (Welten/Planeten) auszieht (auswandert/emigriert)."

~Overentertained and contempt-for-the-truth humanity has to be brought to the truth & collectively change before the fall of humanity. This is possible if it were done correctly. Also if all parents taught their youth virtues such as love, honour, fairness, truth, knowledge, and wisdom from the cradle onwards, and if youth were only born every 7 years for one short year this would be an altogether different younger generation, and a very different Earth for the weal of the all.

the 25th verse in quotations is the "Goblet of the Truth" chapter 8 verse 25 translated officially by FIGU-Switzerland, copyright FIGU-BEAM (Creative Commons).
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Our people are shut out from the truth teaching.

When you turn on the television, you do not see information broadcasted regarding the consequences (dangers) of overpopulation. You do not see information regarding causal cause and effect and how this can affect our people, nor do you see information regarding the law of reincarnation and the law of the becoming and passing educating the people on the bottom of our society truthly truth from the primal wellspring of all wisdom, the Creation and it's natural law, so people can think: "Maybe we should care for the Earth for when we have a new life and new personality?".

We treat this planet as though we only live one life, which is the absolute untruth, and on television you do not see anything that can assist humanity in being admonished to the teaching of the prophets.

When you turn on television, it's garbage for our people. And other people wonder why our people are so screwed up (the damage is done), people wonder why there is so much wrong with our world, and wonder why our people are so unknowledgeable about the truth. 4/5th's of our people are enslaved in their consciousness through debasing cult-religion, praying and beseeching to a non-existent god that can neither help them, save them, nor offer them any assistance.

Television does not teach you honour, fairness, equitableness, honesty (being upright), dignity, love, peace, freedom, nor harmony. Most television in it's current form does not teach you knowledge and the essence of wisdom. You have to open an old-fashioned book for that. You have to open an old-fashioned book for learning lessons that are treasures that will enrich your present existence and that can assist you around in the next life as stored essences of your future consciousness-block.

Life's real lessons are taught in the FIGU books. It is information that is brought anew to all of humanity. And yet our people are shut out. We tread down the road of disaster with blinders on beckoning toward the downfall of humanity.

Downfall can mean a lot of things: the downfall of the Petrodollar and the downfall of the world's financial system from overpopulation and war, the downfall and collapse of the world's atmosphere from overpopulation, downfall of food and water sources (from overpopulation), the downfall of law and order due to increased terrorism, the downfall of humanity due to increased predicted natural disasters, and the downfall of human life to the downfall of society if world war 3 breaks out, the downfall of human life if nuclear war breaks out, the collapse of the United States government and the ensuing downfall of the United States people (2020), the downfall of our social normalcy due to the collapse of society from overpopulation.

Downfalls do not have to happen, and many are changeable. The FIGU recommendations such as a birth-stop (with 7 year birth-rate checks), a banishment penal system, and gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit are waiting to make short work of the planet's ills. If we wait until the prophecies become unalterable then we waited too long. And if WW3 breaks out it will be because of the rise and fall of civilizations, civilizations do not want a downfall and want to keep others from rising. The way of the spiritual teaching by the teaching of the prophets (found in the Goblet of the Truth) is the stronger one assists the weaker one, not sabotages and degrades them openly and secretly. It is natural law to help your fellow human-being out, honestly, and with honour and dignity.

It is also natural law directly from the Creation itself to help people of your kind in all things. Why are the people on the bottom of our society shut out from the truth? Why is overpopulation not on the world's media 24/7? Why do the people on the bottom of our society allowed to have blinders on marching silently (without complaint) towards the downfall of humanity?

Sabotaging the truth will equate to a downfall of humanity that will affect both the people at the top of our society, and the people at the bottom of our society for the detriment for a few centuries and some lifetimes for all.

Embrace the truth, and accept the outstretched hand of peace for the weal of the all.

In two centuries there will be better centuries. It would be faster if the powers that be would cooperate in unison for lasting peace and peaceful survival, and would cooperate and implement with the FIGU recommendations.

Sincerely,

Corey Müske (Mueske)
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anthony & everyone

What my understanding of the "ONENESS" and "HYPER-ONENESS" is based on (see below: Arahat Athersata page 68 #'s 151 - 155).

Law of the Equality, Law of the Oneness & the Hyper-Oneness
(corroborations from Arahat Athersata & Goblet of the Truth)

Arahat Athersata
Page 34
108. A oneness is only then able to remain such when it is not split, when no splitting is caused.
109. When a oneness is divided, then it no longer forms a whole and the value of the relative absolutely full development is lost.
110. This is the law of all existence, and it is the law of the life.
111. Through this law, all evolution and the certainty is guaranteed, proceeding from the brazen creational regulation.
112. This law also has its validity for the Earth human being whose oneness in living together, in the whole mass of the humankind and as individuals, form the concord.

Goblet of the Truth
Chapter 25
187) In the rising-up in the consciousness-evolution you can then feel and understand the interaction between all things, how they pulse with the warmness of the life through the whole, through the oneness which is given through the creational and which thus connects everything with each other in an interacting wise, because everything is driven and held in its existence, life and activity by the creational energy and power; and if you comprehend and understand this, then the shining light of the truth will ignite in you, through which you will fill your life with love and strive unstoppably after the being human in the real and true sense, after peace, freedom and harmony for yourselves and for your whole humankind.

(continued from above)
Arahat Athersata
Page 34
113. This concord, however, has been lost to the human being, and discord runs through their whole life; discord within themselves, discord in their forms of thinking, discord in their deeds, discord with the ones next to them and discord with the whole environment.

Goblet of the Truth
Chapter 28
21) Consider however the requirement, that every one amongst you human beings of Earth must make his or her own efforts to recognise the truth and follow it, because only then, when every single one of you changes developmentally, can everything spread over the whole humankind and make it into a truthful oneness from out of which all the terrible things – through which you have been living, since time immemorial, in wars and hatred, in jealousy, unpeace, unfreedom, crime, terror as well as in disharmony and many other terrible things – are jointly fought against and resolved.
50) There is only one negative that is complete in itself and one positive that is complete in itself, and through the uniting of both poles a complete oneness comes out once more and this oneness is Creation-given through the laws and recommendations as creational energy and power which constantly undulates through all the creational and is unseparably connected with the Creation and all its created creations and with everything that has come into existence through it.

Law of the Equality, Law of the Oneness & the Hyper-Oneness
Arahat Athersata
Page 68
151. It should be made clear that the progress of the Earth human beings, as everywhere in the universe, is connected with the creational law of the equality and the oneness.
152. This means that two different factors must always be united in order to result in a oneness.
153. These two factors, which in themselves each form a oneness, unite to result in a oneness again, namely the hyper-oneness.
154. So human-worldly and material progress for the Earth human being only forms one factor, which, however, is lacking the factor of spirit, namely the spiritual evolution, and only in their union would the oneness of the higher be formed.
155. The hyper-oneness therefore cannot be achieved if only worldly and material progress is striven for and obtained while the spiritual progress finds no entitlement.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie you forgot the German to go alongside the English, as well as the copyright information.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,
In keeping with the forum requirements for conciseness, I only give the source. In my thoughts, including the German would make the post lengthy and make me have to also type out the German.

I will have to remember to include the copyright information. Hadn't thought of that. I try to contribute to the discussions as time allows me due to my schedule.

Thanks for pointing this out.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Eddieamartin
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Corey,
I did find the following regarding including the German text. If I'm understanding it correctly, the German text inclusion is only required under specific mentioned circumstances?

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/3163/3163.html?1545128844

Therefore, it is encouraged that if one wants to post something about a small section from e.g., the spirit teaching or from one of the books from FIGU or from or about articles, it would be of much greater benefit for the poster to make a well considered comment as to why they are posting it and their thoughts on it as well. This then encourages thinking in the readers, and can inspire responses from others, leading to discussion of the presented topic - which is in fact the purpose intended for this forum in the first place, as a discussion arena for the teaching and material presented by FIGU.


These encouragements have not been acted upon as yet by many members here.

Re SUMMARIES

A summary does not require copyright permission, but DOES require a reference to the original with information showing:

-where the article or summary of a text was sourced from -Book or article name; and if from a website, then which website including the link
-Author of said book or article
-page number or numbers the summary was drawn from and verse numbers if from works containing these.
-if the summary is based on your own translation then you must mention this, and that it may contain errors.
-if summary based on someone else's translation then that author must be mentioned.

Example:
Summary of Article 'Was ist die Schöpfung' (What is the Creation?)
by Billy Meier
Source: http://www.figu.org/ch/geisteslehre/was-ist-die-schoepfung
Summary is based upon translation of the original german into English by Robyn Foley and it may contain errors.

or


Three golden rules - a summary in English
From the book 'Die Psyche' by Billy Meier
pps 85-88
Summary is based upon translation of the original german into English by Robyn Foley and it may contain errors.


The reasoning is simple, if this information is provided, then others can also go to the source or the original material, and for themselves
ascertain wether the summary provided by whomever, is indeed correct, or in line with what has been presented or simply to read the complete article or section being summarised.

Not only does this solve the copyright issues, but it also encourages the writer to understand the article or passage before sharing its contents with the members here on the forum and on other social media sites.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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It is interesting that a spirit form needs more time on the other side to properly develop a male consciousness/personality as apposed to a female one. I do not know why that is but it's somewhat good to know that there are psychological makeup differences between male and females. I like being a male and are going to chose to become a male again in my next life by following the spirit teachings advice on this matter and already firmly made the self conscious decision to be a male again next life. The thing that worries me is if my spirit form does not have enough time to properly form a male consciousness/personality because of the overpopulation problem. Can this happen? A person does it right according to the teachings and firmly chooses to be a male next life but due to the overpopulation problem is born with a homosexual personality?
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Cpl
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Hugo,

I do not recall reading that a spirit needs more time in the beyond to develop a female consciousness than a male consciousness. Can you cite where you found this? Also, does this mean the spirit spends more or less than 1.52 times the lifetime lived after the male and female die? It would help also if you know approximately how much more time it takes. If not, then reincarnating could still take longer with both at 1.52 times if one took 1.529 or 1.524 times and the other took 1.521 times the lifetime lived. I seem to recall Samjase saying that the 1.52 number relates to AU and yet while their AU is 1.52 (the same as Mars) ours is 1.00 at 152 million kilometers from the sun, yet we both have the spirit spending the same 1.52 times the life lived in the beyond. I asked Billy and Christian about this but no definitive answer was given on this point.

This 152 is also the numeric of the original Great Pyramid which measured 152.955347 meters according to Ptaah (CRs 246, 248, 251, and 260).

The shortness of time in the beyond due to overpopulation can affect us all. Whether it will and how much we do not know. The world's population might be considerably reduced by the time our spirit reincarnates into a new personality. Also, accidents do happen. That's just a part of life; but how we live does affect the odds, as it were, for better or worse. Once everyone starts living correctly here that "gamble" aspect of a compromised incarnating personality will disappear and all will be living in order. Yet even when all live correctly, unnatural genetics can occasionally occur naturally, as the Plejaren still sometimes give birth to homosexual personalities, and at such times they say they council those ones to see which sexual personality path in life they wish to take and live and provide any genetic tweaks if requested.

If anyone would like the two-page pdf of the "Number 152955347" paper I wrote to Billy covering this number as it occurs in the CRs you can ask for a copy by emailing me at gbcyd@yahoo.com.
Chris

Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Hugo
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Cpl, no it's the new male consciousness/personality that needs more time to develop, not the female. I forgot where I read it in the notes about two weeks ago. I just spent 15 minutes looking with no luck.
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Corey
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Hugo,

If you want to be born a male again then you have to see it that it is not as simple as making a one-time choice "yes I will be born again as a male" and presto it happens.

It is a choice of unconscious will to choose your sex for the next life throughout your entire life-cycle. Keep yourself male in all your thoughts, deeds, impulses, actions, ways and means 24/7 for the rest of your life.

Try to act in strong male patterns when you can. By this I mean shy away from submissiveness when you can, speak your mind to others, etc. Learn to have courage (courageous strength) as you go, but do not be too domineering at the same time so you can listen to your wisdom in this life, and relearn to do this again in the next life (be born more wise then you were in this life which will be a learned behaviour). One can be confident without domination. Learn to have personal might and power though so other people respect you.

Attuning to the male-sided swinging-waves when reading the encoded German of "Goblet of the Truth" has helped me as well, as the encoded swinging-waves of GoT are very deep-cycling.

As for your question, well Billy has said in his Fluidal Forces book that one's spirit may only be in the beyond for 1/14th the 1.52X rate due to overpopulation, so I think if you keep yourself male (with no confusion or you may be reborn as a homosexual) in all your actions and deeds and most important your thoughts, this will assist you.

Learning personal power and might will also assist your personality development and the development of your character, which will assist you in the next life.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Hugo
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Corey, i didn't know some of that. Thanks!
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Cpl
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Thanks for correcting my error, Hugo. As you didn't mention it mentioning any change in the 1.52x, presumably there is no change in that due to the difference.
Chris

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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2019 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your welcome Hugo. One more thing, it says in the AA book that maleness is the most powerful positive pole, and maleness has to be the protector of all things as it's natural law since Ur-times. But it also says maleness forms a oneness with it's opposite the female pole (two opposites form a oneness which is the law of contrariness).

I would like to read that report you mentioned where it mentions it takes longer to program a new male consciousness/personality. If you ever work out which one it is post it.

Cheers.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Hugo
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Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2019 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey, I couldn't find it so I asked Christian F and he said it does NOT take longer to program a new male consciousness/personality. I must have read or heard wrong somewhere.
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Cpl
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2019 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for your feedback, Hugo. Much appreciated.
Chris

Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2019 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok Hugo thanks much appreciated.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Mosaki
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2019 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For anyone who may be interested, I had this conversation with Christian awhile back. I was interested in learning more about this topic because I’ve heard others say that they wanted to influence their gender in the next lifetime. Here’s what he said about how it works.

Hi Melissa,

Basically, the gender of an embryo is determined by the male XY chromosome. The influence by the spirit-form starts on the 21st day. However, it is possible to influence the gender of a next personality, but of course not with a guarantee. :-)

Based on the fact that the next personality is also influenced by impulses from the comprehensive consciousness-block, i.e. values, knowledge, wisdom etc. from all past personalities, it may matter whether a person in his or her life is using a lot of wishful thinking etc. towards a certain gender. But this alone will not bring the wished-for result, because the overall evolutionary level of the person does also play a role in the process. In other words: Just keeping up a wish and not do some additional pondering and learning etc. will not bring about the desired result. Depending or based on the sum of all/everything the spiritform may enter into a developing embryo with the necessary gender.

Homosexuality and other non-heterosexual forms have to do with the genes, not with the chromosomes, and of course also with one's thoughts (because thoughts can, and actually do influence one's genetic structure). Additionally and probably to a high degree, homosexuality etc. may also have a connection with the severely disturbed lifetime-beyond-lifetime cycles (because of overpopulation). Actually the process of building up an new personality requires a certain amount of time, and if that is not the case (which in the meantime has become a common situation on our planet), the basic structure or properties of the new personalities are lacking all kind of normal or healthy or mature etc. conditions and stability, which may lead, among other things, to feebleness/weakness, predispositon for addictions and other psychic or conciousness-based imbalance etc.

All this said, there remains a question: Why would somebody want to influence the gender of the next personality since one does not know what gender may be more helpful in the coming lifetime? :-)

Salome,
Christian
Salome,
Melissa Osaki
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2019 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Melissa, for those that can read German Billy breaks it down (determing your gender for the next life) in Wissenswertes Heft 04 in the Swiss FIGU Shop. I can tell you it has to do with a law of sevenness, and it was some of the most interesting information I have ever read. There are unofficial translations of this document out there, but since it is not an official FIGU link I cannot provide further details. Have a good one.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Alistair
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Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2019 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi there,

Is anyone aware of a contact report involving somebody who gets tortured to death by ISIS? If so, could you tell me the number please?

This contact report also involves somebody who has been helping with the mission a lot, and who was nicknamed "the blonde devil" in Japan in the 1800's.

Thanks

Alistair

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