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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Helo Manuela,

I was happy to read that you are interested in knowing more about creations laws. The laws of the Creation has other names, for example; spiritual laws, spirit teaching, the teaching of the prophets, the laws of nature. These laws are in the Goblet Of The Truth.

Billy, in his wonderful generosity, made the Goblet Of The Truth available for free.

By learning and adapting the laws & recommendations of the Creation, we are able to control our fate.

Here is the link: https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/buecher/figu-kelch_der_wahrheit_goblet-of-the-truth_v_20150307.pdf
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Manuela
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Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thank you kenneth.
i always believed on the existence of a supreme being( the almighty) or the creator, and as an african,we practice our ancestral culture.we often use our ancestor like link with that "almigthy" to protect and have mercy on us. this is our way to be in contact with the" creator"
now i'm confuse about what billy says.
where do we make mistake in our way of believing?
could you please explain it to me?
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Cpl
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Hi Aristea,

The spirit never lessens or becomes less. The spirit of the individual is inviolable. It does not split -- except from Creation itself to then inhabit a human body. The spiritual teaching is quite clear about this.
Our increase in population is due to people having more and more babies, and when there are too many for a planet to properly support, a general dumbing down together with other degenerations occurs.
Chris

Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Patm
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The following is only my person recommendation for:
1) Introducing a young adult to their purpose in life …

FIGU recommends that a young adult be at least 13 years of age WITH their parent's permission before introducing them to the FIGU material.

My recommended place to start would be for them to read a FIGU Open Letter written especially for them. This can be found at:
https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2a_BOQs5Ga4%3d&tabid=1178&portalid=0&mid=4213

Allow them to read this on their own and at their own pace. Once they are done reading the Open Letter and have had time to think about it, let them make the decision to learn more on their own (DO NOT make that decision for them). They will let you know if and when they are ready.

2) Introducing a new student to the FIGU Material (Where to start) …

Many questions will come up and from those many more will arise. ALWAYS answer with the reality and its truth as you know-it-to-be and only enough to truthfully answer the question submitted to you. Do NOT share more than has been asked for/about because when they are ready they alone will know their own level of current understanding and the question to ask. Do not attempt to explain something with your assumptions, this could cause much unnecessary confusion. If you don't know, just answer, "I need to do further research so I can answer that question for myself. Then I will point you to where you can find the information in order to learn your answer for yourself.". Afterwards more questions will come and as the questions transition into discussions ... then you both learn from each other.

What the student asks is their right to know the truth about ....... whatever ... their honest inquiry needs a direction for them to find out for themselves. You cannot and never will be able to give them their answers. These have to be worked out by them for themselves just as you have to work out your own answers for yourself!

One of our groups primary FIGU-based mission fulfillments is to provide, for all those who follow us, a place to study on their own ...

A student's progress should not ever be limited by another person's understanding in how they worked out a situation (in thought, feeling or action or even as a "What if ...?" ). At best you can give them a pointer to where to find their own answers to questions they have when they are ready to ask the questions you cannot answer.

Only when they let you know they are ready, start first with who/what your source of information is ...
"FIGU in a Nutshell" is just what its title suggests ...
https://www.creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zVYAOLBXVHM%3d&tabid=235&portalid=0&mid=1314

Once the student reads about what FIGU is and isn't, then time must be taken for the individual to begin the process of working out of the thought impulse generated for themselves.

FIGU Switzerland setup their Swiss-German website to provide a seeker-of-truth, the core information about FIGU

Their entire website has been translated to US-English by our group and is available at:
https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx

The fundamental information on the following major topics is explained by FIGU on their website, correspondingly it has also been translated on our website into US-English:

FIGU Society - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#FIGU-Society-92https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#FIGU-Society-92

Spiritual Teaching - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#Spiritual-Teaching-231

Ufology - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#Spiritual-Teaching-231

Overpopulation - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#Overpopulation-233

The Reference Library contains a listing-breakdown of FIGU's entire catalog of articles, BEAM Portal entries, books, booklets, periodicals and general reference material. See: https://creationaltruth.org/Library.aspx#Library-Contents-6

There is also a powerful search engine on our website which you can search both for German and/or English words or phrases.

The idea of this website (https://creationaltruth.org) was a place for an individual to search on their own for information on how to work out for themselves their own answer and/or resulting next question. It should be left up to the individual to set their own pace of study, when they are ready only they will know, and what they are seeking. Only they will be able work out the knowledge themselves for themselves. Only in this wise will they actually be able to use this knowledge in their everyday life as they then acquire the essence of wisdom for use in their thinking-feeling-acting processing of impulses. This will in-turn ... be as only they decide for themselves, because it is their own free will which enables them to learn.

Beyond that always, as said before, ALWAYS answer the new student's questions with the reality and its Truth as you know-it-to-be and only enough to truthfully answer the question presented. Do NOT share more than has been asked for/about as when they are ready they alone will know their own level of current understanding and the next question to ask. In other words don't attempt to give them the answers to questions they are not currently capable of processing.

Some final recommendations:
regarding the Death-Life (reincarnation/incarnation process) please review the drawing: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=0biaVJREz9M%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0

and to understand the Nokodemion Lineage/Genealogy see: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=oWCsxKBWnDA%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0

and finally to understand our purpose in life please read: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=obcm1RtS0_0%3d&tabid=235&portalid=0

These are my personal recommendations. Hope these help.

Salome,
Patrick McKnight (patm)
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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Manuela,

You are very welcome. Most in this forum were raised in one religion or another; to see beyond this can be very challenging, but once you open the door to the truth you will recognize so much more Truthfulness and Honesty.

Once a person understands that religion and politics are all about control; in other words controlling the general public, the vail will be removed, so to say. YOU must be in control of your own destiny, not someone controlling your future for you.

Here are a few sections from Billy Meier’ book Arahat Athersata, Page 20, section 46. /…/53.

46. A human beings of the truth knows no
prejudices, because a preconceived opinion
hinders the searching and finding and the
honesty.

47. The human being of truth knows very precisely
that all truth and wisdom lie in the timeless flow
of the endless duration, so no preconceived
opinion finds the entitlement in the existence.

48. Only facts of the truth can be facts of the
wisdom, but not anything else which is arranged
below it.

49. This is a low in the great course of all
occurrences, for every existence must complete
itself in the circle.

50. Cause and effect find their validity in all areas
when they are arranged according to laws and
recommendations.

51. A preconceived opinion harbors within itself all
unlogic of the doubt and untruth.

52. And as a human being therefore approaches
and takes in these transmissions, then he/she is
beyond the state of preconceived doubts and
criticism or whether prejudices are still able to
dominate him/her.

53. If he/she, however, is still befallen by
preconceived opinions, then it is better for them
if they set aside this message and leave it to
those who are able to search for the truth free of
prejudice.

You will soon get beyond the confusion, this is normal because many of us human beings were raised to believe in a god, a supreme being, the almighty, etc., etc. All of which we have never seen and never will. The truth of the matter is that gods, tin gods, idols, saints, deities, angels, etc., do not exist. This may be difficult to understand at first. This is all about control.

I totally understand when you said, “…we often use our ancestor like link with that "almigthy" to protect and have mercy on us. this is our way to be in contact with the" creator"…”. The Truth is, no dead ancestor can protect you; no Supreme Being or almighty god can protect you or HARM you; this is a myth in order to control your thoughts and your actions. You need to be in control of your own thoughts and actions.

The Truth is that once a person (ancestor) has died, their Spirit (Spiritform) leave their body and resides (stays) in the beyond for about 1.52 x (times) their age at death before their spiritform will re-embody in a newly procreated human fetus on the 21st day after conception. For instance, if a human being dies at the age of 50 years; 50 x 1.52 = 76. This means that this persons Spiritform ONLY will enter a new human fetus around 76 years after death; this will vary a little today due to overpopulation. So, when a person dies in 2019 for instance at the age of 50, their spiritform will re-incarnate around the year 2095, 76 years from now. They will have no knowledge of their past life.

To be clear, it is the same spiritform, not the personality or soul. A person’s personality and soul dissolves after death. Once a person has died, and truly dead, they absolutely cannot be brought back to life. If someone sees a person that appears to be brought back to life, they truly were not dead!

In the Christian religion, it’s said that Jesus (Jmmanuel) arose from the dead. The Truth is that he never died on the cross; he only appeared to be dead; this is a known fact! This is religions attempt to control the masses.

You said, “where do we make mistake in our way of believing?” The definition of belief: An acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists without proof.

Dear Manuela, this article is already getting too long, I’ll stop here and wait for another one of your questions.

Sincerely
Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Manuela,

Trust your own instinct and allow yourself to think for oneself. Also, as a recommendation, when you start studying the Spiritual Teaching and discover the Truth; you will have the urge and excitement to tell many folks about your discovery. Be very careful with this, those that still deeply believe, or those of various religions or sects could most likely attack you verbally or even physically.

From the book, “The Way to Live”, page 446, Section 493:
“Billy”, Eduard Albert Meier. Aka BEAM

When someone comes under the influence of misled and misleading human beings as well as of wrong points of view and false-cognitions, and so forth, he/she loses not only all of his/her merits, which he/she has achieved in his/her life, rather he/she also destroys his/her own decision-making capability and blocks his/her freedom. Therefore, may one never fall, either voluntarily or involuntarily, under the influence of those who are misled and misleading. Wrong viewpoints, misguidance and wrong convictions lead to dangerous manifestations of all terrible things from which the human being, once he/she has fallen into these, is barely able to free himself/herself again through his/her own power. To be heeded in association with this is that, as a rule, misled and misleading human beings are struck by unknowledgeness and are often devious, consequently, they cannot be labelled dull and simple-minded. Also passive and lack of intelligence is not characteristic of them – quite the contrary; they are as slippery as eels, supple and cunning, they know every trick in the book and are downright geniuses in the game of the deception of the fellow human beings. Therefore, caution is recommended concerning them, because their misguidings are very dangerous, because they erode the truth and impede evolution. Consequently, unknowledgeness is not harmless, rather, it is a factor of the irrational guiding, of going into the unreal and of the destruction.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, July 12, 2019 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patm,

Thank you for this. For whatever reason, I did not know that:

1) Introducing a young adult to their purpose in life …
2) Introducing a new student to the FIGU Material (Where to start) …

was available. This is so very helpful.

Thank you

Sincerely
Kenneth
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Manuela
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eddieamartin,
thanks for the link, i will go and read it
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Monday, July 15, 2019 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Manuela,
You are very welcome.
Here are YouTube videos of Christian Frehner presenting on the spiritual teaching you will find in the Goblet of the Truth.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgp6WsIYJW0&t=397s
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S0DktiFd-k

Here you can find other topics and video presentations.
https://www.youtube.com/user/FIGUCANADA/videos
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2019 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nature corroborates the equalized application of the positive and the negative... ie; Neutral-Positive-Equalized.

From the Goblet Of The Truth we learn, fathom and recognize, that through the free nature the creational laws and recommendations are revealed to us, out of which we then gain ever expanding knowledge and wisdom through the application of the knowledge in our daily lives. This we can easily do through observing and working with nature itself.

A key component of my company is the regenerative produce operations. This has allowed me to "search and research"(Arahat Athersata book), thereby confirming the natural creative laws.

The image below illustrates this creational regulation to a great extent and through deeper (further) "search & research", one learns of the negative/positive balance regarding things like dirt/soil, aerobic/anaerobic, good/bad microbes, etc... ie; the law of the contrariness.

From the sun (photosynthesis) the shoots and roots of the plant feed bacteria and fungi which produce the enzymes that breakdown the nutrients in the soil which are then consumed by the bacteria and fungi.

The protozoa and nematodes consume the bacteria, fungi and protozoa which then release the chelated-minerals (nutrients) to the plant shoots/roots system, in a form that the plant can absorb and utilize.

Arahat Athersata page 356 vs 121-122 (German/English)
121. Therefore, as also with the seed, all influences enter from the outside to the inside and thus produce the life, so it also happens with the Earth human being and all other life forms.
122. This is a law of the Creation which states that every life form takes in its nourishment from the outside to the inside and usefully transforms and reworks it in a conversion process, making it capable of sustaining life.

Nature follows the creational law of balance and moderation-in-all-things, by controlling and maintaining a healthy balanced population, depicted in the image with the use of arrows.

The irresponsible population explosion is the root cause of all the terribleness the planet is experiencing at this time with ever increasing intensifying weather patterns, the destruction of arable land, heatwaves, sickness & illness and even frustration, disharmony and all manner of wars, agitations and the unpeace. A garden that suffers with pests, weeds, etc. is a garden that is suffering with an imbalance of the creational regulation that determines a balanced soil microbiology population; the same is evident with the human population explosion.

Human beings of Earth must be taught to use the Might Of The Thoughts, in a consciousness-based wise to control and bring balance and moderation to all things, just as nature instructs and teaches by example.

Soil Food Web Biology
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Niko_sulonen
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Went through my diary and came upon some little nuggets of inspiration from my consciousness and wanted to share a couple of them. Hopefully they reach anyone who might benefit from them.

Road of Truth
The road of the truth is rough and rocky; it gives much to the human being and equally demands as much back from him/her. When the truth brings to light all his/her faults and shortcomings, then a true truth-loving human being also recognizes these in himself/herself and takes responsibility for them; and in his/her responsibility the truth-loving human being then strives to solve all of his/her problems in life, both inside and outside. With all of this he/she will struggle and yet endures it in his/her love for the truth, because he/she wants to be worthy of the truth and to fulfill his/her life-mission in the recognition of the duty.
~16.3.2018 Pori, Finland

Eternal Life
Eternal life is love and wisdom; even when the human being and all the worldly matter around him/her becomes and passes away only to become again, then know that the human being always carries the eternal life within himself/herself, so that it can again be found and recognized to be further developed on the road of the fulfillment of life.
~10.3.2018 Pori, Finland

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Eddieamartin
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Niko_sulonen

Salome Niko,
Great post #53. Really enjoyed reading your post. The road of the truth, as you termed it, is indeed rocky, to the very foundation of our thinking and character. It woke me up to a reality I had not been aware of, at least not since the days of my childhood before religion distracted me from the actual reality.

Through the Goblet Of The Truth, I came to gain cognitions of the eternal nature of my spirit, so also the truth and reality of the actual eternal life. The real eternal life, according to the beauty and majesty of the law of love, the law of the evolution. Not to mention the law of the passing and becoming, which eradicates all fear of the dying, which is an unavoidable inevitability we should strive to comprehend and come to terms with in absolute logic and recognition of the law of love.

Life on our molested planet really can be a paradise for all. This can be accomplished as more of us become knowledgeable through study and apply our cognitions to bring about change.

The Law of the Causality, cause & effect, is an almighty power which cannot be stopped, it effectuates unstoppably all the good that the knowledgeable ones wield through the might of the thoughts.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Corey
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Hello Niko,

It seems as though the month of March was an insightful month for your diary. I really liked what you expressed in the Road of the Truth: "because he/she wants to be worthy of the truth and to fulfill his/her life-mission in the recognition of the duty."

I surmise that this is what it is all about on our road to the truth, fulfilling our life-mission in the recognition of the duty, duty to ourself, the evolve our consciousness, and duty to protect all lifeforms and our fellow humankind.

I also liked what you said regarding overcoming and resolving errors that he/she takes responsibility for that the truth points out.

I can tell by your journal entries that you are a student of the spiritual teaching. Do you read the German? I ask that because it seems very German-based journal entries, things I have read in the untranslated original German myself. Sometimes it is quite obvious who reads and studies and who doesn't.
Sincerely,

Corey Müske (Mueske) USA.
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Niko_sulonen
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Hey Eddie,

Thank you for your kind words. Also your post is well said. First cognitions into one's own spirit-form can be a really powerful and eye opening experience. It makes one realize that fear of death is only based on an illusion created by the material ego that this one life is all that there is. But truly, the material life of a human being in all it's forms is only a temporal expression of the eternal life itself which, like a tree, always grows a new set of leafs when the old ones have perished so it can itself continue it's own growth.

I was fortunate enough to have a personal experience of my own; last year around the time I wrote those diary entries, I was one day relaxing on my bed thinking about the human personality and it's purpose, what my previous personalities might have been etc., when slowly I found my sense of self, or rather sense of ego or personality fade away and a new identity emerging. It was an identity without name, an existence connected with everything, with eternal timelessness, and it was like if my psyche and consciousness were lifted to the highest heights to the levels of pure BEING. All that I could see was a radiating lustrous white light and what I heard wasn't with my ears, but felt like the most beautiful heavenly choir was singing in me; pure love in pure existence. It didn't last for long and soon I was back to my normal self, but it did leave a lasting impression on me.

What I learned from it is that the human being is in his/her essence an eternal spiritual being, a force of life on its own that exists as a part of a great spiritual creative universal life-force, and that the personality of the human being is a creative expression of this spiritual creative life-force in the human being working through his/her consciousness, from which the personality then forms out of, much like a beautiful flower forms itself out from the creational laws.

I've had other experiences and cognitions since then but always of a different nature and not quite as profound as that one was for me. If all of humanity experienced that, then I have no doubt that peace, love and wisdom would from thereon be the governors of mankind.

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Scott
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Hello Niko,

I had a similar, but different experience a few years ago....I was lying down as well, relaxing, not really thinking of anything when my pet cat jumped up and lay across my Solar Plexus after a short period of time I had this most expansive, joyful feeling which lasted maybe 15 seconds...the feeling was familiar, but I don't recall ever having it before?....during those brief moments I had no fear of death?.....I really don't know what it was, but it more or less stayed with me the remainder of the day...
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Niko_sulonen
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Hello Corey,

Thank you. Yes, I remember March being quite an intense month for me in terms of my personal evolution. I was experiencing some hardship and had to take a long walk to ponder things over and that's when I had the inspiration for that particular diary entry.

No, actually I don't read the German that much. I have only taken a basic German language course in a "folk high school" but I found the pace much too slow for my liking. My intention is to take up on German language again this year when I begin my university studies this month.

That style of writing just comes naturally to me when I'm inspired to write something down. It feels easier and more fluid. Who knows, maybe I have some German in my storage-banks? :-)

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Niko_sulonen
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Hello Scott,

Sounds like you also received some impulses from your storage-banks or your comprehensive-consciousness-block. They usually have that overwhelming quality especially if one's consciousness is open to them.

Expansive is also what I would ascribe to my experience; somehow surpassing the material world and existing in the eternal realm. For me it was a taste of what's to come when I finally evolve out of my material body. Did you write down anything on your experience? I have found it to be quite valuable for my evolution to write down my experiences including all the related thoughts and feelings and then analyze them to the best of my abilities. Maybe you could do that too and see what comes to the surface. A great way to draw in more impulses, in my opinion.

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Votan
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Niko

You probably had a out of body experience.

I had it a few times. There is a specific way to achieve this.
joe
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Niko_sulonen
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Since I'm on a roll here I figured I'd post another inspiration I had :-). This is of course pretty self-explanatory stuff for the majority of you dear forumites, but I'm posting these in the hopes of helping any newcomers getting familiar with the spiritual teaching in the present day or in the future whether that be in the near or distant times. Maybe some of our future personalities will be reading these very lines.


The Spirit
The spirit is the all-encompassing force of life that reigns in everything there is to be found in the universe. It gives life to the human being, through whom the spirit can then evolve itself always into a greater and greater power. That is why it is in the responsibility of the human being to take the reins to his/her thoughts, feelings and actions, so that he/she could learn and evolve in the way it is meant for him/her and to recognize the force operating in him/her which enables the life of the human being and the life of everything else in the universe.
~15.12.2017 Pori, Finland

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2019 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Joe,

Yes maybe, I'm not sure. The definition of an out-of-body experience doesn't really sound what I experienced, though. It was more like my consciousness dissolved or merged with an underlying profound reality or a "supreme consciousness" if you will, instead of leaving the body. If anything, I think my consciousness went into the depths of itself rather than expanded outwards. Maybe I'll ask about it next week when I'm visiting the FIGU Center.

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Votan
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Post Number: 947
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2019 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott

Has Billy or our friends ever mention what the spirit form or psyche consist of.

It must be a very condensed form of energy that can enter a human body and stay with the person and absorb all the info needed for its journey.
joe
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Eddieamartin
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Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2019 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Niko,

I too have had similar experiences. One was quite profound and I was fortunate to ask Billy about it when the Questions To Billy was active. His answer further sent me on an encouraged journey of self discovery and creational based cognitions.

In regards to your post#54 as you touched upon in your sentence; "What I learned from it is that the human being is in his/her essence..."

Here is the link to my question and Billy's answer.

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12919.html?1380604760
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 59
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Posted on Saturday, August 10, 2019 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Eddie,

That's wonderful. A great consciousness-ability to have, for sure. Hopefully you have been practicing it as Billy advised.

Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.

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