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Patm
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Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The article's title is 'Changing-form of the genders through incarnation (Wechselform der Geschlechter durch Inkarnation)'
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there was also an associated article titled 'Reminiscence - Incarnation-memory (Rückerinnerung - Inkarnationserinnerung)' which can be found at:
https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=icvRmuXyQoY%3d&tabid=1523&portalid=0&mid=7010
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Corey
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Hi Scott, thank you, you are more talented than I.

Hi PatM, thanks for your translations which I am sure will be a big hit for the English speaking world. Reincarnation is such an interesting topic. Just think of how many former kings, queens, princes, princesses, merchants, shopkeepers, police officers, citizens, national people, leaders, civil servants, authors, artists, musicians, mathematicians, historians and how many former founders of entire societies & influencers of civilizations & former spiritual people like former masters and teachers are alive in this world, unknowing of his or her former personalities, and perhaps posting on the forums. And now in our current life and this new age, because of the 7th and final prophet we can "upgrade" ourselves with the complete truth of the timeless unchangeable truthly truth of the encoded spiritual teaching IE: the teaching of the prophets.

There are also a lot of unknowing ones and fools and unclever folks reincarnating as religious folk, misled supposed representatives of a non-existent "god" which is the total, absolute untruth, these people have it bad in his or her genetic streams, it even religiously influences them in his or her temporal and parietal lobes of the brain which is a form of enslavement and spiritual bondage. Our whole planet is infested with this bondage, and the powers-that-be need to warn the people. because out there, in the dregs of humanity are humanity's true leaders that need to be liberated in his or her consciousness so they can experience consciousness freedom (freedom in consciousness). Our whole entire society should be based on the teaching of the prophets so it can one century permeate every facet of our civilization of humanity. This is before there is a cataclysmic downfall, a massive downhill-sloped collapse of our society in our short-term future mainly due to overpopulation and war, both of which are contrary to the natural laws that govern the universe.

I can understand paying the penance through cause and effect because of the massive mistake of overpopulation, but war is a choice, and our society is currently "set-up" to actively engage one another (our next one) in armed conflict, instead of being the bearers of peace, and the bearers of rationality and intellect. War of any kind (except extreme self-defense as a contingency order) is a direct active contravention to the laws and the recommendations of the Creation IE: the natural laws that govern the universe. Either we collectively change the direction of this momentum, or we will suffer massively as a societal downfall.

The powers-that-be need to warn the people about the massive mistakes of overpopulation, warn the people of nature's future retaliation, and outlaw war through the Trilateral government, who would need to enforce terrestrial peace.

~To the powers-that-be: stop treating those that know the truth about the future as fools, and initiate direct contact (I directly volunteer to be contacted) and directly assist so we can collectively change the direction of our societal momentum, which is currently slated to completely collapse without a "course reversal". Perhaps some of us concerned folks have gone through these "trials of existence" and the tumultuousness of a changing era in former lifetimes, and we just want to assist so we can spare ourselves and all other people by directly changing their and our direct fate for the better. Some countries will perhaps go to the dust if they remain behind the times, consider the national and international implications of this and it is better for the short-term future and the long-term future of this globe to accept cooperation with us, so we can alter the future with our own ripples in the fabrics of space and time, bypassing some negative reaps of cause and effect for each man, woman, and child of the Earth. We also directly know what is in store if you do not allow us to intervene, we know what lies ahead just around the corner if we do not assist, and it is not a good outcome. Consider my words carefully and make the right peaceful choice for the weal of your national people.~

Our entire globe needs to be caught up in the mentality and manifestation of complete international coordinations and complete international cooperations for the law of species preservations (for a complete global terrestrial peace and order).
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Votan
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Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey.

One thing you have to understand that we are all human and yes we all make mistakes.

Some people even in power think that they are doing the right thing that they have been accustomed to and do not know better,like politicians. They are on good money and have no idea how most people live until they loose everything.
joe
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 04:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Scott can you accept this version intead of the other version that is in queue? Thanks)

Votan, yes the universe flows from learning from mistakes. I would tell these people to stay strong about the future, and to follow my strong advices, and read the FIGU books to learn further advices.

It should be a job requirement for Earth leadership both to listen to UFO contactees that are positive in nature, and to read the sacred encoded FIGU books, as it should be a requirement for Earth citizenship to read the 3 sacred, strong encoded FIGU books (at least once, then you can walk away). This is nothing to be scared of.

Sincerely,

Corey Müske (Mueske)
06:14 29th of June, in the year 2019.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Jokubas_stalmokas
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Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

It really shows from what you write how deeply you are concerned about our future, but I have one question. Why does it have to be trilateral army, what's wrong with international peace troops from many countries?
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Are some of the bodies we bury still alive?
(Re. an article by N. Dora/Germany – published in Figu Bulletin 105)

Sorry folks – the following is a discussion about “the bodies we bury” … but maybe there is a need to discuss the subject matter.

In the early 1980s, a reporter in Hamburg made a survey of the gravediggers findings of the city's three largest cemeteries. He wanted to know how many of the exhumed dead had moved by themselves after being laid in the coffin. The answer was frightening: on average it was every 8th to 10th "body", that is up to 12% of all "bodies" that were buried!

The author mentions that doctors and undertakers would have hardly a chance to diagnose the apparent deaths (=the deaths that are not really deaths). Apparent death is the final attempt of the human body to use self-healing through the use of all available forces. To do this, it shuts down all large-scale energy consumption to a non-measurable minimum: Within 24 hours, only about 5 heartbeats and about 3 breaths occur, i.e. they occur so slowly that they are not detectable. The consciousness is as well switched off, so that no brainwaves are measurable.

In this condition, “organ harvesting” is known to be performed. "...What is completely unknown to the medical profession is that the subconscious mind remains active and continues to record everything until the spirit form separates from the body..."
Apparent death must therefore be classified as a state between deep coma and death. The author points to the fact that it was common practice (esp. among Catholics) to bring the deceased home for three days (before putting them in a coffin), so as to never to leave them alone, and always keep a low light so that they would notice immediately if the "miracle" of a resurrection happens.
The author mentions Karl May *) who in his autobiography "Ich", (“I”) described very touchingly the story of his grandmother, who re-awakened after three days of being on death-watch (wake) and [then] lived for several more years.

The author points out that Jmmanuel (aka Jesus Christ) had three Indian doctors at his side who cared for him during his apparent death.

To give the only apparently dead body a fighting chance the maintenance of the core temperature of the body must be watched, it must always exceed 31 ° C, otherwise death is inevitable. Here, a warming bed in the form of an electric blanket or similar helps. Also, the body must never be completely covered during examinations or applications… The biggest problem is probably the dehydration, so that the body should be cared for with fine skin oil and gently massaged in with minimal pressure. It is also important to ensure a high level of humidity and / or the regular moistening of the nasal mucosa and the oral cavity, with no water allowed to run into the throat, because it runs directly into the lungs. During the wake, the appearance of the person changes: According to the author’s understanding, there could be apparitions, which today are considered as a sure sign of death (e.g. rigor mortis, / dead spots) - the successfully self-healing body, however, is obviously able to resolve all these phenomena itself, as long as its powers are sufficient for this final struggle for survival.

What else should be done?
The author mentions the dilemma that e.g. German doctors face: Acc. to German laws the deceased must be laid in a coffin within 48 hours after death... but that a change in law should be possible once the medical people realize that indeed, many only apparently dead people were buried. Then a longer death watch (at least 77 hours) should be introduced.

But even with these changes there would still be the problem that not many people would want to look after a dead person for so long and that “….anyone who dares to look after a deceased person at home should do so with the support of specially cared and mentally trained caregivers who come to visit every day..." **) For all others (that do not take the bodies of their deceased home), hospices could set up special rooms for the wake, which may allow visits by relatives.
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*) K. May became – after a turbulent life – a very famous writer. He is well-known for his adventure stories (esp. about the Wild West) – some 200 million of his books were sold….
**) I think some strict Jewish laws demanded that families had to faithfully keep a wake for 7 days: According to Jewish (midrashic) traditions the soul of a human hovers over its body for 3 -7 days after death.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saved by the Bell, prevents Death?

The 'Saved by the Bell' saying apparently originated as an expression that relates to people being buried alive.

If someone were comatose and mistakenly pronounced dead and interred, they could, if they later revived, ring a bell that was attached to the coffin, through a special access hole and tied to the persons wrist. . . and be saved.
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Corey
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Hi Jakobus,

The world does not want a troop from many different countries, I know as I have tried. But as I explained in the archives this method (multinational peace-keeping troop) is the ultimate goal with other nations being able to assist the Trilateral Army in 40 to 100 years time, IE: do it in stages. In the archives there is a list of countries I came up with that can assist after 40 years time, a list for 50 years time, and so on at the end of a century everybody is in.

For the short-term duration the Trilateral union between the former enemies of United States, Russia, and China seems the most logical as many of the prophecies are (such as Petale peoms) these 3 countries warring heavily so in an effort to neutralize the worst prophecies we have ever seen, why not fuse the 3 countries together in 300-year long peace treaties, and fuse the 3 militaries together as a forerunner to gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit?

In the short-term duration, I don't think a single smart country would go up against the Trilateral Army, the 3 militaries fused together, I think it would enforce peace quite well, but it would have to be a legit outlawing war, no smoke and mirrors and no military supremacy, and the Trilateral Army would have to be overseen by a Trilateral Federal council based in Switzerland overseen by the spiritual teaching people of the FIGU community.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Jokubas_stalmokas
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Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

I understand your idea, but from what it looks like the world does not want that either. People are simply in too deep sleep. Trilateral army or multinational army will be met with the same indifferent attitude to my opinion.
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Corey
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Hi Jakobus,

You can't blame a man for trying, no?

Salome,

Corey Müske (Mueske)
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Cfreitas
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Billy mentioned once that the number of souls awaiting to reincarnate on Earth is many time greater than the number of the current population. How is this possible? From where are these surplus coming?

Hi Cfreitas,
I believe you asked a very similar question in another section and a few people responded, did you notice those responses?

Thank you Scott-Moderator


(Message edited by scott on July 12, 2019)
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Corey
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Joe (Votan), (discussion cont'd from the "help wanted" section)

This is possible because the return-connections are through your subconsciousness (according to the spiritual teaching the "subconsciousness" and the "unconscious" are two very different things) so you access your former bones fluidal forces by working backwards through your subconsciousness and most of the time you do not even realize this is happening consciously. Just because the bones are buried makes no difference, as the radius is good for a full 3 light seconds, which according to Google is 900,000 Kilometers. The radius of the Earth is only between 6,353 and 6,384 Kilometers (fluctuation due to fact that Earth is not perfect sphere, but slightly elliptical.), so no matter what continent your former self lived, and no matter what continent your future self will live on Earth you are reborn into, your "present self" and your "future self" will be able to access your previous bones as long as you are not cremated, nor die in a nuclear war (skeleton turned to ash in seconds).

Mars is simply too far away to access former Earth bones and vice versa, yet for the future time when we have a moon base and settle the moon, the moon is close enough for terrestrials to access former personalities' fluidal forces in their former selves bones as the moon is only 384,400 kilometers from the Earth according to Google.
Sincerely,

Corey Müske (Mueske) USA.
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Corey
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Salome Eddie,

Perhaps I am the only American that read this book so I will step forward and answer your question. What role this plays is you constantly access your former bones' fluidal forces all the time through your subconsciousness, let's take for a hypothetical example, let's say in your former existences your overall consciousness-block followed and programmed the flow of culture across the various historical lands and let's say in ancient times you lived among the Mayan as a good king, then in the next following life you lived in Europe as a shoe-maker, then in the next following life you lived in ancient Russia as a notable, in the current life if you would encounter a problem or some sort of "stumbling block", and in you immediately think of a solution and overcome the problem, this is because you accessed your return-connections in your subconsciousness without your knowledge and found your fluidal forces in a former existence bones how you overcame the same or similar problem by deciphering (spiritually) the spiritual fluidal emanation in the former bones, which you carried over the solution to you current life and miraculously overcame the "stumbling block" by "knowing how" and thinking of a solution which traces back to your former existences in the former cultures you formerly lived all without your knowledge. This "stumbling block" or problem could be something at work, or in your personal life like a marital problem, or a problem at large like a world peace issue.

This is one of the fundamental essences of evolutionary development, and access to overcoming all of these former problems, any moments you experienced truth in your former lives, things that will help you in the present life, it is like accessing small "jigsaw puzzle pieces" of your former lives and you put the puzzle together in your present life and make something new out of the puzzle pieces using your new knowledge in combination of the old, IE: access to all of these things (old wisdom) will be gone if you are either cremated or die in a nuclear war (skeleton turned to ash in seconds) because the return-connection-possibilities are permanently cut and severed and you have to start all over accumulating lives worth of skeletons to decipher the emanations. You would thus be born underdeveloped because you can no longer access the former return-connection-possibilities of the skeletons you no longer have access to in your subconsciousness.

We have to safeguard the former spiritual information for the entire terrestrial sphere locked in the former bones of the entire terrestrial sphere by not allowing (IE: prevent) a nuclear war tragedy. I propose the 3 enemies of the United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the people's Republic of China sign public 300 year-long peace accords.
Sincerely,

Corey Müske (Mueske) USA.
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Corey
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Salome Eddie,

• One more thing I wanted to add is that while accessing your former bones fluidal forces through your subconsciousness, such as overcoming problems you faced in a former existence helps one be a more effective part of society as an effective cog-in-the-wheel who is adept at difficulty by accessing "old wisdom" to put the pieces together of solutions to difficulties by making something new (or perhaps the same) out of the "old wisdom".

And because as I stated these problems could be:

1. something at work
2. a marital problem
3. something at large such as a world peace issue
et cetera.

And since as we can learn from the teaching of the prophets, the corner-stones of overcoming difficulties, resolving errors, and being a master of one's life (IE: master at one's life) in complete control of one's destiny, when we can access our current life's bones (current life = of studying the spiritual teaching) with our future selves we will overcome insurmountable odds and our society will be better when our future selves are part of the cog-of-the-wheels of whatever future country we are born in. Civilizations may rise and fall, but our "old wisdom" will always be there for us in our individual successive lifetimes.

Yet as I stated, if there is a nuclear war tragedy the return-connection-possibilities accessing former bones "old wisdom" for billions will be permanently cut and severed which will result in "stunted evolution" for large numbers of new personalities coming out of the beyond IE: we could have whole new generations of "idiots" who face insurmountable difficulty who will not be effective parts of future society to go along with the forseen physical deformities and overall planetary radioactivity and "nuclear winters" as a result of the short-sightedness of nuclear conflict. These people whose skeletons are turned to ash will have to start all over again.

Some people in power might say "so what?", IE: country "X" may nuke country "Y" and cause them difficulties among their future generations without realizing their own "X" country will face nuclear retaliation in return from country "Y" and both the "X" and the "Y" people will together be future "stunted people" who have to start all over again accumulating lifetimes of new bones to access. It is much better to form 300 years worth of peace treaties between the Trilateral Union.
Sincerely,

Corey Müske (Mueske) USA.
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Corey
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Addendum: that is to say, people from both countries of "X" and "Y" would thus likely reincarnate back into their own country, IE: spirit forms do still reincarnate in the same cultural and consciousness-related region/society IE: through natural Creation's laws on a vibratory level, one reincarnates in is the level of evolution (of understanding, knowledge, freedom of thinking, culture, etc.) of a person, both on a personal level, and also regarding the surrounding society. IE: the average level of evolution/civilization of a nation has an influence on the location of incarnation of a spirit form.

What happened in history was spirit-forms often followed the flow of knowledge and civilization as it spread across the ancient world, IE: Eqyptian, Mayan, Minoan, Greek, etc, following the same cultural and consciousness-related regions as civilizations peaked in ancient cultures.
Sincerely,

Corey Müske (Mueske) USA.
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Patm
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Regarding the reverse-connection to the previous life through the undestroyed bones of the previous personality:

There is what FIGU terms as "an inspiration of the subconsciousness", which is the access to the planetary storage banks by the subconsiousness. This ability begins immediately with the incarnation of the new consciousness-block (along with the associated reincarnated spirit-form) into the new Wesen 21 days after conception. This is when all worked out impulses from the previous life (lives) begin to influence the subcounsciousness of the newly beginning actual (current) life through its access to the storage banks. This includes the changing-form of gender through incarnation.

There is a difference between an "inspiration", an "inspiration of the subconsciousness" and a "fine-spiritual perception", where an "inspiration of the subconsciousness" is an impulse that finds its origin in the storage banks, a "fine-spiritual perception" is an impulse that finds its origin in the spiritual-Gemut and an "inspiration" which occurs from the outside, either through verbal-influences, through feeling-swinging-waves, through perceptions of coarse-substantial or fine-fluidal kind or through consciousness-based swinging wave influences of the human WE-form or through individual Wesen.

The "fine-fluidal-perception" (note: not "fine-spiritual-perception") based impulses from the "bones" of a previous personality are impulses available when the bones still exist from previous personalities and the consciousness development of the actual (current) personality is NOT dependent on them (will not cause a "stunted" consciousness development if they (the bones) no longer exist), they are meerly an additional source of "fine-fluidal-impulses" (inspiration) if they do exist.

For a better understanding of see the article "Consciousness is not spirit - spirit is not consciousness - true love - inspiration of the subconsciousness - inspiration (idea)/inspiration/drawing in - fine-spiritual perception - imagination/intuition (Bewusstsein ist nicht Geist - Geist ist nicht Bewusstsein - wahre Liebe - Ahnung - Eingebung/lnspiration/Einhauchung - Empfindung - Einfall/Intuition) at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Public/Documents/149-ConsciousnessIsNotSpirit-SpiritIsNotConsciousness-sec.pdf

The gender-form of the human being is changeable through its incarnation, a fact professed for a long time, which is no longer undeniable. However the question emerges therefrom, why and how does this changing-form come about. Why do human beings on the earth live as man or woman. in order to then however be again then differently-gendered in next the life? And how is it, that this changing-form of the genders actually comes about through the incarnation? See: Changing-form of the genders through incarnation (Wechselform der Geschlechter durch Inkarnation) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=AVtGcD2-b6A%3d&tabid=1235&portalid=0&mid=4428

A reminiscence/incarnation-memory lies in the realms of the possibilities for every human being. This possibility is even established in the laws of
the becoming and passing and therewith in the evolution itself. See: Reminiscence - Incarnation-memory (Rückerinnerung - Inkarnationserinnerung) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=icvRmuXyQoY%3d&tabid=1235&portalid=0&mid=4428

Regarding the Reincarnation/Incarnation Process, please also see: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=0biaVJREz9M%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0

Hope this helps
PatM
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Eddieamartin
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Salome Corey,

Thank you for the thorough explanations. Certainly a fascinating subject worth really looking into and discovering its wisdom.

Hopefully, this additional morsel of information will effectuate continued concern with government personnel and analysts that read the forum and make their recommendations.

As it stands, they themselves will be directly or indirectly affected now and in their very own future lives. And the lives of their children and relatives.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Eddieamartin
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Thank you Patm.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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PatM,

That helps a lot, very logical, to the point and well-defined. The links are extremely helpful; all of the appropriate information regarding “Reincarnation, Death and the Storage Banks” in one location.

Thank you very much
Kenneth
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Maler
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Hi everyone. Can someone help me understand something about reincarnation please.
Billy mentioned that there are more than 120 billion spirit forms in the earthly beyond.
Naively, one would think that 8 + 1.5 * 8 = 20 billion spirit forms should be enough for current reincarnation needs.
Why is overpopulation a problem and the stay in the beyond shortened?
Is it because not all 120 billion are compatible for reincarnation here?
If so what is the reason for incompatibility and what happens to the spirit forms that never get a turn to improve themselves here on earth?
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Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2019 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Maler,

As I understand the information, we live on a planet that consists of spirit forms which are native to this planet and also spirit forms which migrated here from other planets ie; Mars/ Malona etc....as a result we in a sense have an excess of spirit forms. Overpopulation causes the spirit form to reincarnate sooner than is normal which shortens the "processing" time on the "other side".....this as I understand it can lead to certain problems within the personality.....the merging of the spirit form with the unborn child is an automatic process which is based on the laws of attraction...

Presently "new" spirit forms can no longer reincarnate here because the evolution of the current spirit forms is too high..and the gap in their evolution would be too great.

The spirit forms which do not incarnate here, will eventually relocate to another planet and start the reincarnation cycle.....This is my understanding and perhaps others can add more to this discussion.... Welcome to the Forum.
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Patm
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Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2019 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI Scott,

Just a couple corrections to your explanation:

"Presently "new" spirit forms can no longer reincarnate here because the evolution of the current spirit forms is too high..and the gap in their evolution would be too great.

The spirit forms which do not incarnate here, will eventually relocate to another planet and start the reincarnation cycle..."


should actual say:

Presently "new" spirit forms can no longer incarnate here because the evolution of the current spirit forms is too high..and the gap in their evolution would be too great.

The spirit forms that relocate here, will sit in queue until the spirit-forms evolution-level matches that of the other earth-human's spirit-forms or it (the relocated spirit-form) will be 'throttled-back' for reincarnation with an incarnated new consciousness-block (consciousness and personality) into a human being, all of which will eventually relocate to another planet and continue the reincarnation cycle there when our planet no longer exists if the spirit-forms have not evolved to the 'High-Council' level by then.

PatM
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Kenneth
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Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2019 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Maler,

Welcome to the forum. As I understand it; reincarnation on Earth does not have anything to do with compatibility or in compatibility per say. As you may have already learned, if one dies on a particular planet, according to Creational Law that spiritform is bound to that planet or solar system regardless of where it formerly originated. For instance, when the atmosphere on Mars was devastated by the Destroyer Comet; those that died there, their spiritform’s would have then come to Earth for reincarnation as Mars was now unable to support human life.

Likewise, all those folks that died on Malona, their spiritform’s and the spiritform’s destined to reincarnate on Malona, (todays Asteroid Belt) now reincarnate on Earth. This compounded with the over breading on Earth has an effect on the reincarnation cycle which was 1.52 times the age of death before rebirth. This calculation is what has been effected, causing spiritform’s to reincarnate sooner, shortening the processing time on the other side, so to say. It’s my understanding that this can lead to certain problems within the personality. To be clear, the personality does not reincarnate, as it dissolves upon death, only the spirit survives.

Look at it this way, spiritform’s need a certain amount of time in the beyond before reincarnation to avoid complications; similarly, when human beings are in physical form, a certain amount of time is needed to sleep to avoid complications.

Hope that helps
Sincerely
Kenneth

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