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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 575
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2019 - 09:36 am: | 
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Most of those so called speakers such as Greg Braden, are similar to being partially pregnant or almost pregnant with their presentation of the truth
MsMichelle
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2108
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2019 - 12:51 pm: |
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Thanks for the suggestion Chris
Every now and then there are phases in one's life where one must come to terms with one's own honesty and to question one's own thoughts as to whether they are truly one's own or rather are that of someone else's.
In reflection and introspection the process of understanding and knowing is not as clear cut and neat as one might assume.
Grappling with this lingering sense of doubt which is a shortcoming in itself these questions arose out of a combination of ignorance as well as guilt consciousness spurred on by a question that has been lingering in my mind for some time which was 'how honest can I be to myself to think that I've really gotten to the bottom of 'the spirit is its own evidence' and confidently assert that I know with absolute certainty about this thing which is supposed to be closer to me than my own breath?
Do I truly deep down know with absolute certainty of what this thing called the spirit and the Creation is when I actually talk about it or is it a mere regurgitation of the concepts Billy has put forth thinking that I understand the meaning when in all honesty I truly don't?
Is it merely a matter of faith for me or do I have some grasp of the concept with some understanding gotten from piecing together all the information about the spirit that Billy has written about and that I do indeed see it right in front of me with a broad expanse of awareness, cognition, insight, recognition, knowledge, understanding, conceptualisation, perception and direct experience here and now as if I can hold it with my two bare hands.
It is definitely a challenge to see what majority of the world's population cannot see nor know of and to conceptualise terms and references in your head that never existed in its proper form prior to Billy's arrival.
What in the end matters I guess is to continue to grapple with these inevitable challenges as they come, reconfigure the concepts in your mind as close to its intended meaning as best you can and to generate your own original thoughts around these supposed foreign concepts so that as more ideas blossom in your consciousness from those ideas the more tools you have to understanding others not yet organised to hopefully tie some loose ends.
Matt lee |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1186
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2019 - 06:49 pm: |
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It is right to question in this way, Matt. Spirit is described as that which animates and gives life to all, and that which is within all. To this degree we can know spirit. I know and feel the life within me, that animates my existence, and I have experienced the oneness of all things.
More than this I cannot know, but I can logically or rationally deduce a few things from that. I might also intuitively come to realise things from that.
As I see it, beyond one's experience all one can know is what one correctly rationalizes and deduces from reason and logic, intuitively perceives, and imagines. Each one of these processes could be in error. Is my logic, reason, intuition, or imagination correct or have I made an error, as we are always apt to.
It seems to me that the best way to ensure correctness is to meditate regularly on these things, not just sitting in actual meditation, but when one can throughout the day. As Billy has said, a meditation can be a reading of a book, a thinking, a resting, and many other forms. This helps us develop cognizance and true understanding.
No one can know exactly what another knows, only relatively. It is why it is important to come to our own understanding and be honest about what that is, because only that is real for us. All else is supposition, imagination, or idea; all of which may be in error, or not. It is why we must think and experience these things for ourselves, because no one but ourselves can give us such cognitions or experiences.
If I visit a travel agent saying I want to visit Bhutan, a place I have never visited, and ask her what she knows about the place and how she can help me. She will answer with a lot of information, pictures and data. How do I know she is telling me the truth, and how accurate is her information and the images? Ultimately I cannot know. Maybe she is just scamming me with a nice story to get my money. She probably hasn't even been there, so how would she really know if it is all true? This is the problem present day flat Earthers have. If there is no direct experience one can only go by what the data in its many forms can tell you. These are reasonable deductions and conclusions, but even then there could be certain errors for which one must always be ready to face, check and work out as best one can for oneself.
When I experienced the all-in-one, for want of a better word, I knew then that there is something beyond death, and that the personality would certainly cease at death while some other eternal nature of consciousness goes on. I could logically and intuitively conclude from it that there is a life beyond that consciousness that enables or animates its continuance. That I call spirit and I can and do know that it exists, but I cannot give that specific knowledge to anyone else; others must find it for themselves if they want it. But anyone could avail themselves of it, at least in theory. After many years of meditating on the whys of the experience I may be able to help others know why I experienced it, and that may or may not assist others.
We have to work these things out for ourselves, because we cannot know what Billy knows, only what we can know. The good news is that with study and meditation fields of knowledge overlap making it easier for us to come to correct conclusions, and we can learn form the cognitions of others. But as you have discovered, it is always necessary to question.
I do not question the existence of spirit, because I live and therefore know it exists, but the half-spiritual forms and we-forms? How can I know that they exist as described by Billy. I cannot. But I do know that it makes perfect sense and fits with everything that I do know. Therefore those are explanations that make a lot of sense to me and so I can credit them as being likely, just like the friendliness of the Bhutanese despite neither I nor the travel agent ever having met one.
The more I study of Billy and his works, both literal and life experience, the more I can credit his explanation, just as I can more credit the travel agents details the more I know of her, her company, and how the data fits in with all I know from elsewhere; but until I arrive in Bhutan there will always be certain doubts about whether all aspects of the reports are accurate, embellished or whatever. There might be no rational reason for her to lie because that would be bad for business, but you never know. Due to the practicalities of daily life, I will accept certain explanations as given while others I will take a "wait and see" approach. Everyone does this, because all we have is our own unique knowledge base and experiences that make us who and what we are.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2113
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 04:50 am: |
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Yes Chris it is in the end a personal striving, struggle and challenge only one can overcome and exercise for oneself in the quest for more insight, experience, being, cognition, ideas, understanding, awareness, recognition, knowledge and truth.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 579
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 07:43 am: |
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Question, is plagiarizing BEAM's material acceptable?
I say not, because these "so called new age speakers" are notorious for stealing material and calling it their own. So unless these, "so called new age speakers" have the courage to acknowledge BEAM as the "author", personally, it's not acceptable. Since some of you love to "bully" people who disagree with you as to how they interpret, disseminate this material, I'm surprised you would accept "half truths". They are different than Petrus from (TJ) in my opinion.
MsMichelle
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1426
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 12:49 pm: |
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I think that there can be some benefit when people are at least made aware of the existence of greater truth.
In consideration of small gains, it's better if someone like Braden
(inadvertently) helps people to find the Meier material and spiritual teaching, then for them to get sent down the road to conspiratorial idiocy by David Icke, etc.
Many of us have found the contacts and teaching, over time, through oblique means, so we also may also find like-minded people among those who haven't yet come upon the Meier material directly. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1073
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 08:13 am: |
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Msmichelle,
This is an excellent question when you said, “is plagiarizing BEAM's material acceptable?” I realize that you were referring to new age speakers; nonetheless, I have used Billy’s material as well. Although not asserting that the knowledge was mine for from me, but stating that the knowledge was from my teacher or elder.
Depending on what was being picked up from the individual, would determine whether I would drop BEAM’s name. Often, specific answers to questions would lead to other enquiries. Whether I dropped BEAMS name or not, the person at any rate went away with truthful knowledge. A couple times I was asked in an unambiguous respectful manor where I acquired the information; thenceforth, Billy’s name and links to his information were provided.
Kenneth |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 587
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 24, 2019 - 07:40 am: |
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Kenneth, in this new age of social media, it's actually an excellent opportunity to revise our approach to dissemination of this material. I can remember back in 2008 or 2009 when I was struggling just to put food on the table and pay my bills, and I did not have a TV at the time, only my laptop. I was surfing through the internet and became extremely interested in watching this show called "Conscious Media Outlet?" This show was presenting lots of people giving various information about consciousness and spiritual growth. I really enjoy the guest and one day, I saw this bald, white male (perhahs you know him? ) speaking calmly, confidently about what I now know as BEAM case, and if I'm not mistaken, once photos were presented either via going to MH's website or link, I knew instantly, esp the one with the wedding cake spaceship hovering over a vehicle. I was captured at that moment. Therefore, going forward, social media has progressed leaps and bounds since 2008. This "new time" will not accept certain behaviors because social media has provided an excellent source of verifying information and tracing it back to the original source. We must admit, unless an individual has a certain "level of consciousness", they will miss this opportunity to recognize the truthfulness of this case. Meaning an individual must develop their consciousness via mistakes, failures, hardships, experiences, etc., otherwise, they'll continue to "believe" and not really "know". In other words, I was bound to find this material, no matter what, therefore, in time, more and more people will find this material. That's why it's extremely important to give credit when credit is due and hold these "so called spiritual speakers" to acknowledge how their came to a particular revelation about "their information" which they are "spreading to their followers". Thankfully, BEAMs material will finally stand the test of time and be preserved.
By the way, can you walk over to NASA and hand them the information about the correction of the "PI" equation. 
MsMichelle
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Pkf823
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2019
| | Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2019 - 05:20 pm: |
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It=E2=80=99s my first time asking question here. I=E2=80=99m a Chinese, and= I=E2=80=99ve learned a lot from Billy and this forum. So my question is: D= oes the creation the DNA of the universe, including all the information of = the universe? It seems the DNA of human beings is programmed . Is the creat= ion a combination of all the most revolved spirits of human being, so the = creation is a spirit as well? And the last question, why does the creation = needs/has to revolve?=20 |
Pkf823
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2019
| | Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2019 - 10:21 pm: |
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I'm a Chinese guy, 24 years old. It's my first time stating my cognition here. In one post above, Tat_tvam_asi mentioned "A New Science *) that scientists should
adopt the view of universal oneness,that all things material reflect
each other. " You guys call it "New", However, we Chinese have been thinking like this for thousands of years, especially when you read that book "Yijing" of China. By thinking in this way, I get an idea, the Creation maybe the DNA of the Uneverse, which includes all the information of the Universe. But the Creation itself is more of a DNA, because it is also a spirit which consists by all the most evoled spirits of the human being. The Creation is a double-helix, egg-shaped configuration, just like the shape of the DNA in the cell of our human being. Willing for your replies, sincerely. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1094
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| | Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 07:45 pm: |
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Hello Pkf823, welcome to the forum.
I give my thoughts.
The Creation is like a planet. The planet creates and sustains life.
The planet is the teacher. Yinjing says the same thing.
The Yinjing contains aspects of the spiritual teaching. Of interest to you, is the book Goblet Of The Truth.
The principle of Yinjing is taught in the Goblet Of The Truth. Known as, "law of the contrariness".
The Goblet Of The Truth is far superior. Learned in the Goblet Of The Truth, pertaining to the powers and abilities of the consciousness, we can control fate.
Yinjing gives "teaching of the life" and "teaching of the spirit".
Goblet Of The Truth gives "teaching of the truth", "teaching of the spirit", "teaching of the life".
Goblet Of The Truth gives knowledge of the consciousness. The powers and abilities of the consciousness. Knowledge of "creational regulation". Creational regulation are the laws of nature, the laws of the universe. Creational regulation is the oneness, the love, the harmony, the balance, the auspicious, the virtues, the character and all good things of the nature.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1122
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 08:55 am: |
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“Yi Ching”
Welcome to our forum, Pkf823.
Yes, I have *), and will continue to write, about the oneness that underlies and unites all life forms in our universe. I do so because mankind can only master the challenges it faces if it is united.
Scientists **) may play a pivotal role. It is their profession to observe nature and the laws that govern it and the insight that all things universal are one and reflect each other, should be their guiding principle. ***) It would ease their research ****).
My thinking was: The more scientists can see a benefit in recognizing that all things universal reflect each other, the more likely this view will become mainstream and be taught in schools. And don’t we all need a new generation that does not play “ruler of the world – killer 'survival' games” and governments that do not seek and hoard more terrible weapons “for defensive purposes”…?
The book “YiChing” or “IChing” …
I do have a book on "I Ching" and I have seen Chinese people using the power of Ching (from Chan (Zen) Shaolin Buddhists in action to the performances of actors in popular theatres in Beijing (e.g. swallowing and regurgitating heavy metal balls). But I think that the prehistoric Chinese ^) would have known and used Ching - power much more extensively: How else would they (680,000 !) have been able to travel with their spaceships to our planet from the other side of the galaxy?
But I think as well that over time they may have lost more and more of this profound knowledge, that the true teaching became diluted with new theories ^^): The “core of the original Yi Ching book, dating some 3000 years back, was a (hexagram) divination text called the “Zhou Yi” (Yi = Changes, (western) Zhou ^^^)).
This is not to denigrate the original book. Apart from the divination rules it contained as well many inspirational (e.g. psychoanalytical) texts.
But the cosmological texts that you refer to, they were only added during the Bronze Age, around 300 BCE) ^^^^) Then, in a “Great Commentary” the creative force 'I Ching' was described as a microcosm of the universe and that “… by partaking in the spiritual experience of the universe a human being can understand the deeper patterns of the universe…”
This mystic oneness, is indeed, what should be the guideline for our feelings and actions (Semjase in CR 10:100 - 104^^*). It is as well one major insight that my many posts want to convey:
One can much better understand the modus vivendi of the universe’s creative forces if one perceives in unity with the universe, in equality and harmony – as a part of the whole - “fulfilling universal laws”.
This 'Galileo-like' mindset, is till missing in western science. Maybe because it is not very popular with world’s major religions:
They may interpret the missing subordination as sinful blasphemy and some may even call man’s natural inclination, his curiosity and search for truth, “witchcraft”.
No wonder then that the Chinese and Japanese – not bound on religious constraints – may be the ones that may establish a new physics ******) and that these “new physics” will cause a major stir (“…science will be discredited for some time”…)
But mankind has to seek new ways.
The rapidly growing natural disasters in our world, they tell us, that continuing the same way will lead to disaster, that a change is urgently needed.
Interestingly the philosophical “Ten Wings” text was written/added at a time when rival Chinese states aggressively battled for territorial advantage and dominance - similar to what we see in many parts of our planet today. It may well be that its author(s) had the same objective that I have with my writings:
To create a more peaceful world.
Thank you again for your advice and contribution and welcome to our Forum, Pkf823.
Salome, Bill
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/13350.html#POST71832
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It is hard to unite leaders in politics, industry and religion. They are so convinced that their party, their country, their business, their religion, their wisdom is the “one and only”.
***)
Max Planck and others may have hinted at the spiritual dimension of physics – that the observer may influence the test results - but main stream scientists cling on to their 'Aristotle said so' and his material (can touch, can see, can hear etc) perception of reality.
****)
They could use their knowledge of a system they do know to hypothesize about the variables of a system they do not yet know.
^^*)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_010
^) Those 680,000 (Chinese/Japanese) arriving on Earth in 23,988 BCE:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Attacking_questions_from_Japan
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We can infer this from what happened to the earthbound surviviors of Pelegon’s race: After a very destructive war on our planet in 38,023 BCE only a few thousand humans stayed alive. Of these only a select few were able to escape in spaceships. When Atlant returned some 7,000 years he found that the ones left behind on Earth had degenerated (CR 60:23-27)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_060
^^^) The western Zhou was one of the ancient Chinese populations (around the Wei River in NW China)
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It is clear that the 'Pre-Middle Chinese' Shi Yi (Ten Wings) text is of a much earlier date than the 'Early Old Chinese' Zhou Yi divination texts. But no-one knows the origin of these (Ten Wings) texts. Some historians believe them to reflect some Confucian wisdom.
******)
Chinese people, due to their lack of religious constraints, may have different perceptions
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16247.html#POST85777
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16244.html#POST85658
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The Chinese knowledge of acupuncture, their naming the creational force / life energy “Chi” or with the PLejaren word 'Ching', their traditional Chinese Medicine (the body’s balance of Yin and Yang, the knowledge of wholesome herbs) – some Chinese customs seem to relate much more to Billy and Plejaren origins than western culture. E.g.
CR 216:274 www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_216 |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 318
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Here’s an excerpt from the book Arahat Athersata.
“It should be made clear that the progress of the earth human beings, as everywhere in the Universe, is connected with the creational law of the equality and the oneness.
This means that two different factors must always be united in order to result in a oneness.
These two factors , which in themselves each form a oneness, unite to result in a oneness again, namely the hyper-oneness.
So human- worldly and material progress for the earth human being only forms one factor, which, however, is lacking the factor of the spirit, namely the spiritual evolution, and only in their union would the oneness of the higher be formed.
The hyper-oneness therefore cannot be achieved if only worldly and material progress is striven for and obtained while the spiritual progress finds no entitlement.
The true progress therefore has nothing to do with a mere worldly-material advancement, but rather with the worldly-material evolution on the one hand and with the spiritual evolution on the other, which only then combine and evolve together into the oneness and lead to progress.
Where this is not done, however, there reigns vain delusional guidance, inequity and unpeace, because a one-sided progress means misery and hardship and a descent into a deadly abyss. “
This resonates with me as a foundational truth as I was reading and wanted share it to see what your thoughts were on it.
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Pkf823
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| | Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 11:05 pm: |
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Glad to receive your reply, bill. It can't be more detailed and thoughtful. Obviously, you've made some investigation and research, but I still think that you lack relevant information about Chinese antient thoughts.
Yi Ching, or Zhou Yi, is definitely a simple divination book compiled by someone with many inspirational text annoted by Confucius. According to some stories or legends, the most antient origin of Chinese culture is from two marks, or symbol, whatever, called Luo Shu, and He Tu. After that, someone created more complex and precise divination Taiyi, Ba gua(Eight trigrams), Liu Ren(six Ren), Qimen. However, I just have learned a little about Qimen. In Qimen, there are a lot of symbols, respectively represent the time and space and all the things in the universe, if you really made very good relationships. The symbols are very exquisitedly calculated and ralated together by showing out like pictures below. *** Sorry, I don't know how to upload a piture here.
By reading such pictures, one who are well learned and practiced, would be able to predict the past, now, and the future. If we look at it more broadly, it includes knowledge of astronomy, geography, mathematics, agronomy, folklore, economy, military and other knowledge. In ancient times, it was used in national affairs and the art of war. There were most famous ones, esp. Jiang Ziya, Zhang Liang, Zhuge Liang , Liu Bowen and so on in the histroy. At present, it is widely used in commercial development, market operation and management, but no one is very famous. The results are gratifying. At the beginning, I felt it's very magical so I made some learning on it.
In my opinion, I think it can be a very useful tool if I learned it well and used it in my daily life. However, I decide learn and use it rationally and dialectically, after I learned the Goblet of Truth, and obey it in my daily life. Moreover, I begin to learn the AI, maybe one day I will be able to create a thoughtful robot which in some way transtales German text to Chinese and making some analysis for me, and then be helpful to my learning. And last, tell you an interesting story, I mistaked you as Billy before as your name is similar to him, and you are also very knowledgeable.
Salome, Lin1 (临1，in Chinese) |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2129
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 30, 2019 - 04:48 pm: |
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Hi Lin I would suggest sticking with the purest form of secret sciences and secret knowledge in the form of Billy's information where it concerns the spiritual matters as it saves you so much unnecessary time and effort not having to unlearn all the rubbish and half truths that tends to contaminate the mind and confuses you from all the various scholars throughout history.
Obviously being informed is in itself a good thing from other sources but nothing trumps the information from Billy where upon building the foundation of truth from his source you can tend pretty much work backwards to test other sources for its validity and the truthfulness so that you can get at the kernal of truth speedily and cut all the B***sh** out.
just a suggestion.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1127
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 03:30 am: |
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Hi Lin,
Yes, you would certainly know much more about ancient Chinese divination practices than I do.
I never studied any of them. Nor would I want to.
Because they are belief systems that delude the believer, sabotaging him to forgo his own intelligence, his mind, his reason and also his life.
And not only that. These belief systems create a false pride, one is self-conceited to be in possession of immeasurable powers which, acc. to Billy, is the source of the abuse of power we witness in our world.*)
Our time is a time in which mankind is beginning to rediscover the immense power of thought. **). But it must be clear that the same thought of many can be both, a blessing or a curse. We can see this in the history of the European civilization: During the Dark (Middle) Ages when science and politics were censured by belief systems, when peoples’ thoughts sought religious explanations for almost any life situation, hardly anything was discovered (and people died in a young age, average age: 35 years). But when their spirit was freed of religious constraints (Age of Enlightenment / Renaissance) mankind discovered many secrets of nature, built many of machines that greatly improved his life (and man’s life span more than doubled ^)
The immense power of thought was already known a long time ago. But it was kept hidden from mankind under the penalty of death – by those that benefitted from the subjugation of the masses. That is why some of this secret knowledge was pushed into the non-official, secret sciences. That is why we find passages describing I Ching “as a microcosm of the universe” and that “by partaking in the spiritual experience of the universe a human being can understand the deeper patterns of the universe…” in non-Spirit Teachings. ***).
This then brings me to my objective when writing my 'inviting' article for you:
It was to discuss those Yi Ching fragments that connect with or are similar to the Spirit Teaching. ****) Not more. Not less.
My advice:
To base your thinking on cause and effect. *****)
Logic and a thinking in terms of cause and effect rather than a belief in magic will not only make you more self-confident, honest and responsible - it will as well greatly assist you in your studies of AI. So, your decision to think rationally and seek advice in the Goblet of truth in lieu of divination via the Hetu and Luoshu diagrams is very wise, indeed.
Finally …
What I have written here – (!long as it may seem!) – it was to give you some knowledge of some of the “variables” that influence a human’s life. But it is your own free will, your own heartfelt decision, that determines which way you want to go.
No-one on this Forum will try to persuade you.
“The reason why this universe is eternal is that it does not live for itself.
It gives life to others as it transforms.”
Lao Tzu
Salome, Bill
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Billy explains this in great detail in CR 707 (scroll down to the paragraph starting with “1”):
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_707
**) Arahat Athersata – Power of Thought (scroll down more than half the text)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Arahat_Athersata_(book)
^) How, due to the unnatural influence of religions, human thinking changed, drastically decreasing man’s age - CR 39:60-86
Note: Ptaah’s explanation to Billy is in the lower part of CR 39 (last third of the text) www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_039
IOW – the more man’s thought is in tune with the creational thought – the more will he be one with universe … and the more will his age become like the age of the universe.
We can deduce such from the longer life span of the Plejaren, the ca. 500,000 years long life span of half-spiritual beings (High Council) and the never dying life span of spiritual beings.
***) These are only samples – there are many other writings that contain a figment of the truth revealed in the Spirit Teaching. E.g. "As is the atom, so is the universe. As is the microcosm so is the macrocosm. As is the human body so is the Cosmic body (the universe) - as is the human mind - so is the cosmic mind." (Ayurveda, India)
****)
-The Chinese Luo Shu myth relating to the writing/pattern (Shu) on the back of a turtle emerging from the Luo River which the Great (King) Yu (Da Yu) interpreted with his knowledge of the universe and used as a guide to divide China into 9 provinces.
-The myth of the shaman king Fuxi’s observation and his recording of the “(Yellow) River Pattern”, i.e. the Yin/Yang black and white dots on a horse’s back that emerged from the Huang (Yellow) He (River).
- The myth of magical squares that allow you to foretell the future etc etc.
None of these “myths” and “magical squares” is related to the Spirit Teaching nor are they mentioned in the CRs.
But Luo Shu is, as you may know, an integral part of the (legendary Yellow Emperor’s) Ba Zhai (Eight Houses) Feng Shui. Yet, so Billy/Ptaah, Feng Shui does not, as many believe, generate positive / negative life and natural energies:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_329
(Read from CR 329:60 on)
All power arises from the 'within' not the 'without':
“The spirit is the miracle of miracles from which all power arises: A miracle means to use the power of the spirit in fulfilment”
(Semjase to Billy in CR 10:17-18) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_010
(Re Spirit: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Spirit)
*****)
… and a constant awareness that all existence is a part of the universal growth mindset
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15969.html#POST84429 |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1079
Registered: 04-2013
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Bill,
Wow, what a wonderful compilation of facts and Truths.
(All power arises from the 'within' not the 'without'...); this is the key that leads the general population to everything else. . .
Salome
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1101
Registered: 08-2010
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Tat_tvam_asi
Great post #1127 Bill. Really enjoyed reading that. Very good explanations.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 588
Registered: 04-2011
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Hi Pk5823
I think i know what you are talking about
those symbols can restore knowledge and wisdom, i will explain how asap
they are very interesting
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1129
Registered: 04-2011
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Thank you, Eddy and Kenneth.
Salome, Bill |
Pkf823
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2019
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Yeah, maybe there are belief systems, but I can completely ignore them. Actualy I don't believe in anything but rational logic and some of the intuitions that I got from spiritual enhancement in my daily time-to-time meditation. I can explain well for you if I can put some Qimen's pictures here and explain it briefly and effectively in English. However, I think I have no that ability because I think it can only be well explained and understood in Chinese. It's full of logic i.e. the fundemental logic is: Gold, wood, water, fire and earth interacting with each other. Qimen was divided in many different factions so some beliefs were add in it but can be completely ignored when you rationally and logically study on it. Otherwise, the Fengshui has no energy, but it influence the energy distribution so man live in such circumstances can be influenced by emotional or physical conditions, in other words, influence from the outcome to the income. Moreover, such knowledge can be integrated and cooperated well in many other knowledge fields. This is why they were everlasting in history and still welcome both in folk and official, even though there are many differences and mistakes. However, they are very worth studying on. |
Str0323
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 02-2012
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Hi Ilovebilly. I too would be in interested in your explanations.
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 589
Registered: 04-2011
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Gday folks
For most of the types of magic squares search
youtube
43:15
"The Lost Symbol" - Magic Squares and the Masonic Cipher
More soon
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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