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    Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 590 Registered: 04-2011 |
Gday folks Magic Square Art forms create whole-brain learning as the translation of Number (Left Brain / logical) into Atomic Art (Right Brain / Pattern Recognition) allowing the student to absorb this ancient knowledge subliminally. Magic Square of 3x3 or Lo-Shu when tiled or tessellated creates the Atomic Structure of Diamond Lattice. More soon ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Andrew_hua Member Post Number: 88 Registered: 12-2013 |
Lin (Pkf823), It might interest you to read http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_128. I share your fascination with numbers and its inherent implication for the manner in which Creation forms itself. Take for instance the zygote cell that forms through the union of a sperm gamete and an egg gamete. Through the division of the first cell results in two cells; another division of these two cells results in four cells; from these four cells come eight cells; eight cells leads to 16 cells; 16 to 32; 32 to 64; 64 to 128, and so on and so forth. This doubling sequence proceeds as follows: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, ... etc. When you reduce this doubling sequence to its "digital root" the following sequence results: 1, 2, 4, 8, 7, 5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 7, 5, 1, ... etc. It is intriguing that this sequence of digital roots consists of the same numbers as the "effect-odd numbers" that Meier demonstrates to Semjase in the above contact report. Admittedly, Meier's explanation is much more elegant and its derivation is much more mysterious, especially how the base numbers are listed in ascending order. Naturally, this numerical-value correlation is of no practical benefit for everyday life, but it certainly is fascinating to ponder. Regarding the Luo Shu magic square, my personal opinion is that the practical usefulness of such a configuration of 9 numbers is limited. At best, it might be able to reveal general, basic stages of a human being's life; or the natural cycle of the seasons; or the energetic interrelation of the natural elements (metal, water, wood, fire, earth); but it's probably inadequate to determine when specific events will occur, such as when you will get married or start a new job. This is merely my opinion based on a superficial exploration of the Luo Shu and He Tu. It would be useful to take into consideration the recommendations and suggestions of the members of this forum but, ultimately, the truth will only be uncovered by you yourself. Acquaint yourself with the spiritual teachings in order to affirm and reconcile other external knowledge gained from personal life experiences. Good luck with your studies and may you find the real truth. | ||
Pkf823 Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2019 |
Yeah, I think I may finally find the truth. Just working on Luoshu and Hetu doesn't make more sense. The best thing is Qimen, obviously, there are little materials about it in English world, esp, the academic ciecle, as well as Chinese academic ciecle. Zhouyi and the relavant were just paid more attention by the Chinese academic circle recently and specilly set up doctoral programs by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Sept, 2019. There are also Liuren, Taiyi, similar to Qimen. Three of them is called "Three Forms". Each one of them is very complicated, and relatively speaking, Qimen is the simlest to learn among them. The numeric rules from Luoshu, Hetu is the most basic rules and run though the whole knowledge system. I will spare my time studying more on them, if necessary, with some good teachers. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1182 Registered: 04-2011 |
Everything is in everything - Everything is a mind within a mind … This is an add-on to the in many articles that the universe *) we live in should be seen in oneness. That everything and every being in the universe is a reflection of the universe itself. My hope: That more and more readers become aware and teach the oneness that underlies all creation. Today: In Special Bulletin 38, in his report on fluidal forces / “Übersinnlichkeit” Billy mentions: “…Just as Creation itself, as universe and universal consciousness, knows about the existence of the life of all things, forms of life, elements, atoms and molecules and other forms of life in coarse-material and fine-material form and is aware of the connection with everything, so does this knowledge also exists in everything, in every form of life, in every element, in every insect, virus and bacillus, in every atom and in every molecule and in everything that is much smaller, both material and fine-material." etc. etc. *) If we now see our body “as a part of the universe that replicates the universe”, we can say that the nucleus of each cell of our body contains the DNA which describes the characteristics of all the other parts and cells of the body ***) – So, like a human being that knows of the existence of every other being in the universe, so does each cell of our body, through the DNA in its nucleus, know of all the other parts of the whole body. ***) - And this knowledge “about each other” – it is a part of the equalised-ness and sharing that characterizes the cosmic oneness and love that underlies all existence. To peacefully evolve mankind needs to live with the loving consciousness of universal oneness. Salome, Bill *) Latin “uni versus” = English “turned into one” see as well e.g. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8872.html#POST87723 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/17383.html#POST87445 (there are many more) … and, flowing from it, the need to develop a new “self-image” (post 828): http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/16216.html#POST85015 **) This is a thought somewhat similar to the one the Pre-Socratic philosopher Anaxagoras (500 – 428 BCE) had. He held that nature is built upon an infinite no. of particles. But no matter how much one would split these particles – even the most minute fragment of them “has portions of the other things / beings within it…” He held as well that the cosmos was formed by mind/reason (“nous”) and that the growth of living things depends on the “power of mind within living things”. It is said he surrendered all his wealth so as to be better able to study. In Plato’s “Apology” Sokrates explains that when he [Socrates] was young, he “eagerly acquired Anaxagoras’ books” and read them "as quickly as he could". Everything is a universe within a universe … It is a view the ancient Greeks were taught when visiting Egypt ^) - e.g.: All things and beings in the universe are “en-minded self-movers” (Thales) - "Everything is in everything, everything universal is a mind within a mind …" (Plato and Parmenides). ^) Many Greeks were taught by Egyptian priests, many studied the scrolls at the Library of Alexandria: "If you were to write a book of a 1000 pages you could not put down the names of all Greeks who went to the Nile valley in ancient Egypt to study..." (St. Clement of Alexandria) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76862 ***) E.g. each cell of, say, a human’s heart muscle, would know the human’s colour of skin, the colour of his eyes, the colour of his hair, how many arms, hands, fingers etc the body has, etc. etc. (The cell's DNA settings … - are somewhat similar to the 'Properties' settings for 'objects' in object programming...) | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1133 Registered: 08-2010 |
Tat_tvam_asi Bill, great post#1182. In a martial arts class I give, last night we covered and discussed the oneness and our interconnectedness with everyone and everything through our consciousness and our spirit. At this point the students have already been made aware of how we truly are connected. We discussed how and why this oneness is related to martial arts and personal defense. The discussion started with the value of the life and the existence, the spiritual laws that logically justify the self-defense and the faculties/abilities of the consciousness that work in our favor when there is no maliciousness, vindictiveness nor degeneration when defending oneself and how the consciousness and the oneness gives us an advantage over an attacker. Although students are of varying religious beliefs, they can no longer deny the abilities of the consciousness. You put it quite succinctly when you wrote: "To peacefully evolve mankind needs to live with the loving consciousness of universal oneness". I will remember this sentence and use it in class. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3007 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, There is an interesting excerpt from the Nokodemion Brochure written by Christian Frehner in which Billy states that the material belt of the Creation has renewed itself 1000 times and the current renewed material belt has been in existence for 17 Billion years. During the transition time between "renewals" there exists no life forms until the transition is complete which brings about new life within the material belt.... Here is a link to the brochure: Nokodemion | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1135 Registered: 08-2010 |
Salome Scott, Regarding your post#3007 I think you may be in error, or rather, your post gives the impression that the "renewals" are being confused with the final stage (after) the completion of the Material Belt Contraction. Herein is no more material life existence (our material universe no longer exists). (155.5 trillion years of expansion and then contraction of another 155.5 trillion years). We are currently at the 46 trillion year point in the 155.5 trillion years of expansion. The "Renewals" occurring every 49 billion years is simply the "passing away and renewal of matter". As I understand it, from the Nokodemion Brochure, galaxies eventually are consumed by their Center Star (black hole) and then material spews out and a new galaxy is formed. In a CR, I remember a discussion where it was explained that this is the reason why material can only be found exhibiting a certain age, which leads our scientists into confusion about the age of the universe and so on. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Learnmore12 Member Post Number: 116 Registered: 05-2014 |
Very informative article. Thanks Scott for posting. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 737 Registered: 07-2006 |
The Expansion and Contraction each 155.5 million-million years in duration is referring to the Creation Universe (not the material universe) which was created 46.5 million-million years ago during the Big-Bang. The coarse-substantial matter thus the matter(material)-belt was created 45 million-million years after the creation of the Creation Universe or 115 thousand-million years ago. This is when the stars, planets, comets and later all life came into existence. Since the creation of the matter(material)-belt there have been already been 2 matter(material)-belt transformation renewal phases (each 49 thousand-million years) and we are currently 17 thousand-million years into the third matter(material)-belt transformation renewal phase. The first human being with a conscious-consciousness came into being 10 thousand-million years ago, 400 million years before Nokodemion was first born 9.6 thousand-million years ago. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3009 Registered: 12-1999 |
Yes, I believe I misunderstood the explanation of the renewal aspect of the material belt....Thanks Pat and Eddie. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1136 Registered: 08-2010 |
Salome Patm Regarding your post#737 If you would clarify, wherein you stated that the expansion and contraction, each 155.5 million-million years in duration, is referring to the Creation Universe (not the material universe).... Is this to be understood that the DERN Creation itself is expanding and will contract? Please help us better understand what parts (belts) of the DERN Creation are the ones expanding/contracting ....or is the entire DERN Creation expanding and contracting? Thanks. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 738 Registered: 07-2006 |
The entire Creation Universe is currently expanding which includes all 7 belts. The matter-(material-)belt or matter-universe is the 4th belt. The DERN creation/universe is included within the matter-belt (matter-universe). It is expanding along with the other 6 belts which are all contained within the Creation Universe. This matter-belt is what was created (115 million-million years ago) 45 million-million years after the creation of the Creation Universe. The DAL Universe is also contained within the 4th belt (matter-belt) of its own Creation Universe, which as a whole (with its 7 belts) is also expanding about the same rate, as it is the twin of our Creation Universe. See also: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Spiritual/BigBangandMatterBelt.png Hope this helps PatM | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 739 Registered: 07-2006 |
(Note: depending on where this is in the queue it may appear before or after my response to you Eddie (first-in-last-out)) The image for the Creation Universe / Matter-belt if zoomed in will loose clarity. You may want to instead go to the expanded Creation Timeline drawing which is a pdf that can be zoomed in on without loosing clarity at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=U25QHx4MJoY%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0 Hope this helps even more.  PatM | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 740 Registered: 07-2006 |
One additional thing, I have asked Christian: Is the DERN Universe to be understood as the entire Creation Universe with all seven-belts or is the DERN Universe only to be considered within the 4th Matter-belt as a material-universe? With the same question regarding the DAL Universe. Will let you know his response. PatM | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1216 Registered: 08-2004 |
Thank you very much for these diagrams PatM. It is unclear to me how our big bang fits into this schematic, and also how the material universe transforms itself wherein all life ceases to exist in the physical universe at the "recycling" time between the phases, which must be a long period of time. Is it that at the end of each 49 thousand million years (e.g between out third and the next 4th phases) that the physical expansion has ended and a contraction back to a big crunch occurs, and then the next phase begins with a new big bang? Does the disappearance of all life also mean the disappearance of all planets, sun's and galaxies too, which suggests a big crunch, or is it some other process? If a big bang occurs between the phases, presumably there are a total of seven big bang's before the Creation recedes back to its slumber period. If my questions here are not clear please ask for clarification. Thanks Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1184 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Eddie, Thank you for promoting the view of universal oneness in your wu (martial) shu (art) lessons. I do not know much about martial arts. But I know that according to Chinese tradition the true aim of martial arts is “to establish peace and harmony rather than expanding war”. A very wise maxim, indeed - especially in our world today. And yes, I know, from my experience with the Shaolin monks on Mt Shao Shin, that the practitioners of this art derive their great strength - "gentle but stern" - by connecting with the universal life force “Ch`i”. This Chinese word (“Ch`i”) literally means “breath” *) which I would interpret as connecting with the all-animating universal breath *): A Chinese “Book of Life" ("The Secret of the Golden Flower”) calls it the “Energy of the One”: “If a person attains the One he becomes alive, if he loses it [=the One] he dies. But even if man lives in the energy (vital breath) he does not see the energy just as fish live in water but do not see the water…. If one guards this true energy one can prolong his life …” **) And as this Ch`i (Plejaren: "Ching") permeates the entire universe, so it is revealed in and reflected by all its phenomena: Each individual human thought, each individual one-mind-moment, permeates as well the entire universe. Human evolution is a path from an "I" to a "We" personality. And the more we develop an awareness of “we all” and oneness, the more we may "breathe" and share the Ch`i of the universe. Salome, Bill *) Other cultures may not call it Ch`i – but mean the same - E.g. the Indian yogis call it “Prana” (literally - breathe, life force) .... **) Chinese Traditional Medicine stresses as well the importance of correct breathing: “… Correct breathing is the basis of all exercises for longevity and the cure of many diseases… …men of great wisdom fetch their breath from deep inside and below, while ordinary men breathe with the larynx alone…” | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3010 Registered: 12-1999 |
Pat, I received this from Christian last year: We are living in one of the seven universes of Creation, and this (our) universe is called DERN (Plejaren = ANKAR). Within this universe the overall/comprehensive dimension is called Goran (Plejaren = Siras), and the Goran dimension consists of countless dimension of past and future (limited by the big bang and the expansion/contraction turning point of the Creation). Within these countless dimensions time travel is possible. I don't know if this helps? .... (Message edited by scott on February 01, 2020) | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1137 Registered: 08-2010 |
Tat_tvam_asi Salome Bill, not bad for someone who doesn't know much about martial arts. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1139 Registered: 08-2010 |
Salome Patm, Great work outlining that chart! Really helps put things into perspective. I look forward to Christian's response to your question to him, as this will hopefully clarify the difference between a "Renewal" and the "Expansion/Contraction". I always bare in mind; we are unable to self-prove certain claims but, what we can do is work on recognizing the logic and the creational laws and recommendations in the unprovable aspects of the teaching of the truth. I look forward to Christian's clarification in these matters. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1185 Registered: 04-2011 |
Your charts are truly excellent! Thank you for all the good work you put into them, Pat. Salome, Bill | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 742 Registered: 07-2006 |
Regarding my question to Christian: From Christian's article 'QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE NOKODEMION LINEAGE (Fragen und Antworten zur Nokodemion-Künderlinie)' translated by Catherine Mossman at: https://nebula.wsimg.com/90e82d1e66fd7679fb3aa50b3c3457df?AccessKeyId=C0F879B9BB56750BC6EE&disposition=0&alloworigin=1 – The DERN universe with its seven universe belts has already existed for 46 million-million years within the 155.5 million-million year expansion phase. (This is then followed by an equally long contraction phase). – Das DERN-Universum mit seinen sieben Universums-Gürteln befindet sich bereits seit 46 Billionen Jahren in der insgesamt 155,5 Billionen Jahre dauernden Ausdehnungsphase (die dann gefolgt wird von einer ebenso langen Kontraktionsphase). Is the DERN Universe to be understood as the entire Creation Universe with all seven-belts or is the DERN Universe only to be considered within the 4th Matter-belt as a material-universe? With the same question regarding the DAL Universe. --------------------- Christian's response (received this morning): Based on the additional specification/information delivered by Billy in the meantime these 46,000,000,000,000 years refer to Creation Universal Consciousness, just as it is the case with the DAL Creation. --------------------- In other words (from my understanding) the DERN-universe is the entire Creation Universal Consciousness with its seven-belts which goes through the expansion/contraction started by the "Big Bang", however the matter-belt itself (the 4th-belt), was created 45 million-million years after the "Big Bang" (115 thousand-million years ago) is what goes through the seamless matter-belt renewal phases every 49 thousand- million years, which we today are currently 17 thousand-million years into the third matter-belt renewal phase. During this current matter-belt renewal phase the human-being with a conscious-consciousness first came into existence 10 thousand-million years ago, 400 million years before Nokodemion (the only Universal Prophet and Proclaimer for our DERN-universe) who was first born 9.6 thousand-million years ago. The same is true for the DAL Universe except in the DAL Universe there were two Universal Prophets and Proclaimers, one male named 'Alkan' and one female named 'Nese'. I have also asked Christian to confirm/correct my understanding of this. Hope this helps PatM | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3012 Registered: 12-1999 |
PatM, I am not clear on this. The Creation which consists of 7 belts is referred to as the DERN Creation. Is our universe which is 1 of 7 within the material belt also called the DERN Universe? Thanks for your help Scott | ||
Norms Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2019 |
@PatM, See here for a picture of a Universe with seven belts: http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/File:Creation.gif The Creation contains 2^49 power of variations of such Universes. See the Seven's poster for a depiction of the Creation: http://www.futureofmankind.info/w/images/b/b9/SE7ENPOSTER.jpg |
