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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1159
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 05:59 pm: | 
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Some thoughts and interesting observations. Most all of the network news outlets today are saying: The United States is seeing a national coin shortage because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Other articles talk about paper money and coin shortage!? What comes to mind is what Billy said about paper money in Contact Report 251:
The “American hegemony” that Billy Meier talks about in his prophecies is referring to the reserve currency status of the U.S. Dollar. As Billy says, the PAPER money will only be good for rolling cigarettes… To keep the system going the motivation; go to or continue war. Well, the U.S. and other nations have been in a continuous war for over 17 years in the Middle East.
The Iraq War was a protracted armed conflict that began in 2003 with the invasion of Iraq by a United States-led coalition that overthrew the government of Saddam Hussein, The U.S. has been in the Middle East ever since, in one form or another.
Weather true or not, the news media is blaming the shortage of physical money on the Corona Virus Pandemic. We have experienced that when shopping for food and necessities, I would guesstimate that about 80-percent of the various business will only sell products if we are using some form of credit cards. Part of this may be due to the transfer of the COVID-19 virus on money, that is understandable.
I would not be surprised if the powers to be, “Central & World Banks” use the opportunity to convert fiat legal tender into electronic digital currency. This would seemingly provide absolute monetary control, hording or saving currency outside the system would be a challenge to say the least. Nonetheless, outside the system, bartering for goods and services has been going on for centuries.
  
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 896
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 08:00 pm: |
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Kenneth,
When Billy prophecized the USD being good for rolling cigarettes if things go a certain way I thought he was referring to just the US dollar, but now in a post Covid 19 world where people don't want to use paper money I am wondering if Billy was meaning all nations paper currencies? If all nations go digital only what good is paper money then? |
Str0323
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 02-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 08:49 pm: |
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Hello Hugo.
My understanding is that a global reset of all debtor nations will happen soon. Meaning that the governments debt will be wiped out but not an individual human beings debt. That will cause chaos because of deflation and then inflation.
Peace, Scott Reed. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1159
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 10:03 pm: |
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Hugo,
Good question, thinking forward, if all currency goes digital, one will need some form of digital card (credit card, etc.) or an implanted chip for convenience as you will not need a wallet or something to keep you money in. Likewise, there will be no need to carry identification as all advanced countries will have million of citizens within their facial recognition system. It is already heading in this direction, Japan brags about this.
Japan in race with China for facial-recognition supremacy:
TOKYO/GUANGZHOU -- From shopping to banking to boarding airplanes, an economy based on facial recognition is taking root in Japan, enabling consumers to live a cashless, bag-free life.
  
Kenneth |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 02:31 am: |
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Beware of a cashless society.
Cash withdrawal, total surveillance and expropriation are only logical stages on the way to the demise of society. A horror vision. Mariann Uehlinger, Switzerland
Billy:
Now the time has come to abolish the cash that we talked about earlier. I also gave the two girls an article for you about this, which was written by Mariann.
Ptaah:
41. And which, of course, I have also read and must describe as good.
The horrendous lies of the authorities, bankers, economists and 'economic wise men' as well as the screaming naivety and thoughtlessness of the masses of people lead to total surveillance and dispossession – horror visions become reality.
Billy:
"... But I have another question, and that is about the credit cards, which are being used more and more frequently. Could it be that credit cards are a way to ensure that cash disappears completely from the official market? I don't mean that the money will be abolished and a moneyless form will emerge, as you have it with you. Rather, it seems to me that this is exactly what is being worked for, so that money only exists in the banks and thus people can be totally controlled with regard to cash as well as belongings, possessions, and assets."
Ptaah:
"You really grasp the whole thing before something is officially said about it, because in fact the banks and the financial powers of various states are secretly working towards this. In the end, the aim is to control the people on earth down to the smallest piece of money and also totalitarian in tax terms and to exploit them financially with more and more compulsory levies. So the whole thing is not to create a system without money, but truthfully only to bring about a total control of the people on earth with regard to their money, possessions and assets. Such a total control, as well as a total surveillance of every human being, is particularly aimed at by the EU."
Tien
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1479
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 07:17 am: |
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Getknowledge,
Please post links, Contact numbers, etc., with the information. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1223
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 07:56 am: |
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The entire world, including the banks, are now switching over to blockchain technology. For example, in a WeChat group of industry stakeholders, business people and so on, there we learned from chairman Cai Zhichuan that China was going to introduce a gold backed cryptocurrency called ACU. Chairman Cai is head of an organization responsible for teaching stakeholders and governments all about blockchain and cryptocurrency. Because of his efforts, nations and industries around the world now understand and have embraced blockchain technology.
It is the future, and if we can quell the undesirable, it will be a good thing, in my opinion.
ACU is being implemented by countries such as China, Australia, Singapore, Malaysia, etc.
The USA is adapting the Ripple coin XRP. As will Canada and south America. Other countries are implementing their own blockchain coin. The difference now is that the technology has evolved to the point that it can be integrated into the banking system.
In some ways this is good, but we need to be aware of the insights from BEAM/Plejaren. Nevertheless, this also opens up the world to the less fortunate. So a poor farmer in the Philippines will be able to sell his produce to someone in the USA.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 08:38 am: |
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In one of Billy's prophesies he says there will be several attempts by Earth governments to go to a cashless society but they will all fail until they finally succeed several hundred years in the future. I will go back and try to find the exact wording and post it when I can. I believe it was in Aus die Tiefen den Weltenraums.
Elsewhere, Billy has stated that things will not truly change to the better for Earth humans until the people start to select better leaders. And that may not happen until a greater population are raised in their consciousness thinking. Surveillance and personal recognition technologies are not bad it is how the present "powers that be" use them to control and manipulate the people that is. The Plejarens have a personal recognition technology that works at great distance by measuring a person's unique vibrational signature. There was an amusing incident once where some ETs showed up at Billy's Swiss home and made contact with him thinking he was the leader of the entire planet. And they thought that because where they came from they made the most spiritually evolved as their leader and they had measured that Billy had the highest vibrational signature on all of Earth.
Thinking things through further, if the US does break into separate regions there would still need to be inter-regional commerce of some form. What will be used as the medium of exchange then? If there is no central government there will be no US Treasury and no Federal Reserve and the spell of the illusion that the US Dollar has actual value is broken. That would be my best guess when we can use dollars to roll cigarettes.
Regards
Bob |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1288
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 09:09 am: |
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Great post, Tien. Do you have a CR # or Bulletin # for this? It would be good to read the whole report.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1290
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 09:24 am: |
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If the US $ becomes cigarette paper, other currencies will follow suit.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1480
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 02:25 pm: |
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As for the poor farmers in other countries...let's remember what Billy and the Plejaren said about globalization and the further spread of all diseases.
Life sometimes doesn't seem fair but only because humankind has ignored that which teaches us...the way to live. |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 02:44 pm: |
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Here is the passage that I alluded to in my previous post above, from Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums, page 326:
On the whole, these are the predictions for a whole series of the next few centuries, whereby only the most important upcoming events are mentioned, along with many other things (At this point I will cut to the topic at hand)
Dies sind im grossen und ganzen die Voraussagen für eine ganze Reihe der nächstfolgenden Jahrhunderte, wobei auch nur gerade die wichtigsten kommenden Er eignisse genannt sind, neben denen noch viele andere Dinge herlaufen
Much more cheap energy will be obtained than the Earth man can consume. As a result, the cost of living practically drops to zero, which also means that old-age pensions etc. and other financial support become null and void.
Es wird sehr viel mehr Billigstenergie gewonnen werden, als der Erdenmensch verbrauchen kann. Dadurch fallen die Lebenserhaltungskosten praktisch auf den Nullpunkt, wodurch auch Altersrenten usw. sowie sonstige finanzielle Unterstützungen null und nichtig werden, und zwar nicht zuletzt deswegen.
Nonetheless, this will not solve the money problem in the form that the money as a form of payment will be finally abolished, because Earth man will still be caught up in his money thinking in the near and distant future, so a whole number of centuries to come will be shaped by this, even if two attempts are made to abolish funds altogether, but are doomed to failure because people will not part with money and wealth so quickly.
Nichtsdestoweniger jedoch wird dies nicht die Lösung des Geldproblems bringen in der Form, dass das Geld als Zahlungsform endgültig abgeschafft würde, denn der Erdenmensch wird auch in naher und fernerer Zukunft noch in seinem Gelddenken gefangen sein, so noch eine ganze Anzahl der nächsten Jahrhunderte davon geprägt sein wird, auch wenn zwei Versuche zur totalen Geldmittelabschaffung unternommen werden, die jedoch zum Scheitern verurteilt sind, weil sich der Mensch einfach von Geld und Reichtum nicht so schnell trennen wird.
The translation is mine and may contain errors.
Regards
Bob |
Hugo
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Post Number: 898
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 03:49 pm: |
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re - "In one of Billy's prophesies he says there will be several attempts by Earth governments to go to a cashless society but they will all fail until they finally succeed several hundred years in the future. I will go back and try to find the exact wording and post it when I can. I believe it was in Aus die Tiefen den Weltenraums."
Phi_spiral,
It's in contact report 251 -
"Nevertheless, this will not solve the problem of money in such a way that money as a form of payment would be finally abolished, because even in the near and distant future earthly man will still be trapped in his thinking of money, as a whole number of the next centuries will still be shaped by it, even if two attempts are made to completely abolish money, which are, however, doomed to failure because man simply will not separate himself from money and wealth so quickly. For this reason, all attempts in this direction will be undermined by simply trading gold, silver, platinum, palladium and other valuable metals yet to be discovered, as well as precious stones, jewellery, etc., underground, which will lead to the collapse of the attempts."
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251
re - "Thinking things through further, if the US does break into separate regions there would still need to be inter-regional commerce of some form. What will be used as the medium of exchange then?...That would be my best guess when we can use dollars to roll cigarettes."
Phi_spiral, they could start their own currencies or possibly use the IMF's SDR world reserve currency if there is one. Either way the USD will be dead.
I think it would be wise if everyone started putting a small percentage of their wealth into physical gold and silver coins for the coming financial crisis, much like Meier advises with food stocks. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 899
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 03:53 pm: |
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Kenneth,
I was not aware that Japan wants to go all into a full facial-recognition monetary system. Thanks! |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 04:16 pm: |
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(continuing with the same excerpted passage where the previous post above left off. . .)
For this reason, all experiments in this regard are undermined by simply trading gold, silver, platinum, palladium and other valuable and still to be discovered metals as well as gemstones and jewelry etc. underground, which will lead to the collapse of the experiments.
Aus diesem Grunde werden alle diesbezüglichen Versuche unterwandert, indem einfach Gold, Silber, Platin, Palladium und andere wertvolle und noch zu entdeckende Metalle sowie Edelsteine und Schmuck usw. im Untergrund gehandelt werden, was eben zum Zusammenbruch der Versuche führen wird.
But this does not mean that in the far future the money will not be legally banned, because this development is inevitable.
Das aber bedeutet nicht, dass in viel fernerer Zukunft das Geld nicht doch gesetzmässig endgültig verboten würde, denn diese Entwicklung ist vorprogrammiert.
Regards
Bob |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 04:23 pm: |
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This info is from contact 625, part three midway after the talk about vitamin K.
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_625#Part_Four
Tien
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 05:34 pm: |
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I need to make a clarification. In my posts above concerning the excerpt from Billy's book, Aus den Tiefan des Weltenraums, I incorrectly referenced it as Billy's prophecy. It actually is a prediction/prophecy by the Plejaren and occurs in a chapter tiled:
The future development of the earth on a political, social and geographic basis = according to predictions and prophecies of the Plejadier/Plejaren
Die zukünftige Entwicklung der Erde auf politischer, gesellschaftlicher und geographischer Basis = gemäss Voraussagen und Prophezeiungen der Plejadier/Plejaren
Regards
Bob |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1224
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 06:07 pm: |
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Hugo, thanks for sharing that line from CR 251. As always, I continue to see that Billy speaks in a consciousness-based wise. Of course, I'm just now only beginning to recognize creational laws and recommendations... but to see such mastery is impressive.
Phi_spiral
Bob,
What is meant, in the German equivalent, with the word; "underground"?
(underground, which will lead to the collapse of the attempts.)
Thank you.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1291
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2020 - 12:58 am: |
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"I was not aware that Japan wants to go all into a full facial-recognition monetary system." Neither are the Japanese aware of it. The usual financial and control-driven suspects and culprits want this and the public know it, but it won't be easy to achieve in Japan. Japan is developing the technology, but there are just way too many mum-n-pop businesses, small companies, and diverse businesses that depend on cash; and the general public want and need large quantities of cash for various reasons. There are, of course, people here living on a credit card, or wallet of cards, but everyone here is not going to 100% cashless any time soon. Japan has had a hybrid money system for decades that will remain for a long time to come, if we have a lot of time.
Just a couple of years ago as the government attempted a small move towards a more cashless dimension, the public withdrew so much money from the banks and security exchanges that the government had to print truckloads of cash to satisfy the demand literally. So, it's back to the drawing board for the power and control freaks.
Strange as it may seem, cash exchanges are a part of Japanese culture, in part because although the Japanese public is obedient to laws and generally do what the government says, they are under no illusions that their government cannot be trusted. There is always a political scandal going on to underscore just how corrupt the politicians are and the public is as sick and tired of it as people elsewhere.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2020 - 05:14 am: |
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Hi Eddie,
Untergrund, or underground, is a figure of speech in certain contexts that means; "not in full view", "not openly", "not sanctioned". The expression dates back to Roman times when certain religious and political groups would meet in the catacombs.
Regards
Bob |
Felinity
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 09-2019
| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2020 - 07:17 am: |
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Hi Everyone!,
I have some questions relating to "Desiderata." First of all, is Billy Meier's Desiderata considered a prose? Second, yes, I know that the Youtube channel Sukofu is not affiliated with FIGU, but that is how I found out about Desiderata. There is a poem with that same title, written by Max Ehrmann. These two works are similar.
Here is a sentence from Max Ehrmann's Desiderata:
"As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit."
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Desiderata_(Desirable_and_Vital_Items)
Here is Billy Meier's Desiderata:
"State your truths freely, clearly, calmly and candidly, for only in this manner is an authentic picture created which defines the true nature of everything. Allow other people to freely express their opinions, for they are allotted the same rights as you. Listen to others, to the bright and intellectual individuals, and also to the obtuse, the foolish and those who lack learning, for they, too, have opinions and statements to offer."
I love Billy Meier's Desiderata very much, and so I want more details. I just found out celebrities have used Max's Desiderata for decades.
Thanks and Salome. Belinda |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1226
Registered: 08-2010
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Phi_spiral
Bob, thanks. For me, the way to bring about a cashless society would be through the introduction of androids.
With androids doing the manual labor and most of the labor and even acting as domestic help, human beings can focus on self-development, ie; personal education and so forth.
According to the CR; "in the near and distant future earthly man will still be trapped in his thinking of money". So simply abolishing money will not do the trick. It is the thinking that has to be addressed, because people want to live like the wealthy.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1159
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2020 - 11:22 am: |
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The statement in CR 251, “For this reason, all experiments in this regard are undermined by simply trading gold, silver, platinum, palladium and other valuable and still to be discovered metals as well as gemstones and jewelry etc. underground, which will lead to the collapse of the experiments.”
This seems counter intuitive to Earthlings acquiring gold, silver etc. for a coming fiat currency collapse. What other means of survival is available for acquiring goods?
Kenneth |
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