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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1210
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, October 02, 2020 - 11:31 am: | 
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Hello Mark (Meistro),
Not a problem at all, this is what the FIGU site is for, in short, Enlightenment. Eddie is correct, “…there are as many ways to meditate as there are human beings.”
For myself, regarding unresolved issues, one great method is to MEDITATE on the specific issue just as I fall asleep for the evening. Invariably, the next morning the answer is forthcoming. Then not surprisingly, the conscious thought is, “of course, it is so obvious”, LOL.
When the Goblet of the Truth was rediscovered, this was read methodically from cover to cover (electronic form) in a matter of several days as time permitted. This was my foundation which lead me to where I am today, still discovering and learning.
In my opinion, this tingling feeling you sense is your psyche, for lack of a better explanation. Have also experienced the same.
Often a new situation with arise where frustration or anxiety is experienced, Then the realization, need to get this under control.
Salome
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1272
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 07:47 am: |
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On wishful dreams.
I have recently discovered an additional expansion on an initial cognition regarding the effective use of wishful dreaming. As a form of visualizing and recognizing the possibilities (cause and effect) as they can (will) unfold via the creational laws and recommendations, for the fruition of any creative endeavor, solution or ziele.
For some time, I had pondered Ptaah's explanations regarding the music of the famous composers Mozart and Mendelssohn, who were enlivened by the Nokodemion spiritform, of which Ptaah stated that their music had contributed much to the evolution of the consciousness of humanity.
On Pandora I eliminated all other composers until all I hear are compositions of these two composers.
In attempting to recognize and understand Ptaah's explanations, I thought that listening to these musical compositions during my study of the spiritual teaching, would be of benefit. But I found it at times distracting as I learn better (recognize) by fathoming and thereby understanding what I read when the mind is clear, attentive and working in a consciousness-based wise (this requires a meditative state for me; as an individuum, this is my method and system that works effectively for me in my current individuality, ie; my current personality and evolution).
To my surprise, as I decided to visualize the attainment of a ziel, ie; through wishful dreaming, from the depths of my inner thoughts, the idea was to listen to the music. I found that the music of these composers fit perfectly with the wishful dreams!
I can visualize the beginning and progression of the ziel all the way to its fruition and fulfillment. A remarkable and fascinating experience!
With the spiritual teaching, there is never a dull moment. Wish I could ask Billy to express my thanks to Ptaah for his insight. And my thanks to BEAM for the Goblet Of The Truth.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Post Number: 941
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 - 07:01 pm: |
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If someone studies the spiritual teachings a lot during old age will it help against dementia? The reason I ask is because my 75 year old father was just diagnosed as suffering from onset of dementia. I fear that happening to me. They say that keeping the mind active and learning new things into old age will fend against dementia but will the spiritual teachings? |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 658
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 - 01:10 am: |
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Gday Hugo
My thoughts, not advice as i am not a Dr. Wink wink.
Our mates mention a drug for certain type of Alzheimers, (i think its for one of the most common plaques/tangles type.., its slowed dramatically from the snow drop plant.)
(Galantamine, is used for the treatment of cognitive decline in mild to moderate Alzheimer's disease and various other memory impairments.)
Get the seeds and grow the plant too incase supply runs low.
Ask your Dr if it works for your dad...
Not many folks know there is a type of diabeties that causes the brain to be unable to use carbs as fuel. It starves, (type3 diabetes) A keto diet now and then through life is a way to stop this, our use of carbs 3 timrs a day all through life is not natural and the pancreas gives up, MH mentions paleo is the way, i do keto/paleo often or just keto for 1 or 2 months at a time i go into ketosis where my body only uses ketones from fat as fuel. Keto urine sticks at chemist r low cost...
if i get diabeties or dementia i will do strict keto 20grams or less carbs a day until i drop , no matter who says what...
(i also know some good meditations to strengthen the body as a youths. coming soon, got a few meditations more important to post first..)
Coconut oil or even better mct oil creates ketones, both at supermarket.
oils must be cold pressed, stay away from sugar and canola if possible.
i have studied dementia and diabetes plus other things as hard as i studdied The Teaching as my job i know lots of people with it. I want to know howto heal, our medic system is corrupt, i know lots about that...
Buy a acupuncture laser 600nm with 800nm and study that too, its easy , also the needles cost bugger all, 25x25 do most locations.
Alcohol dementia is from lack of vitamin B complex, so those who drink need B complex.
Loss of oxygen from certain medical conditions is hard to fix and common.
Sleep apnia is a cause of dementia and can cause a severe case overnight if someone stops breathing but comes back alive. can happen young too..
Our mates mention mad cow is still around, i got a suspision lots of these cases r just put in the dementia basket...
so
Dont eat brains, especially lambs brain, cooking dosnt stop prions...
i can go on for hours, youtube is good, Dr Berry and/or Dr Boz. r light years ahead of the sheep Drs..
Billys meditations r important too.
I have a victors readiness, i always overcome ALL obstacles. Truly i am the most shiny Creation of The Creations idea. (Visualise it/know it)
keto dosnt need high fat, most folks think it does, it just needs low carbs.. Meat, leafy salad, make your own low carb dressing its easy, google it.
, mushrooms,beans,brocoli, coliflower,brussel sprouts, low carb nuts, low carb deserts can be made, roast macadamia nuts with a bit of oil/salt
less than 30g carbs a day.20 is better..
fat falls of ya, 5kg a month. feel stronger too. If u need more weight try just eating carbs once a day or so..
Spirulina and moringa
vitc
zinc
D3
K2
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Hugo
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Post Number: 942
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 - 03:22 pm: |
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Hi Ilovebilly,
Thanks for all that. I actually thought that keeping the mind busy learning new things was more important for fighting dementia then eating them food products? I was aware of coconut oil but not those others you mentioned.
Can I ask for more information about this - "Buy a acupuncture laser 600nm with 800nm and study that too, its easy , also the needles cost bugger all, 25x25 do most locations." Where does one buy it from and how does one learn how to prick oneself in the right places?
I'm somewhat ashamed with myself that I've known and studied the Meier case for over a decade now and have still not devoted enough time studying and incorporating the spiritual teachings into my everyday life. I can blame my hectic life but I know that isn't an excuse. I often daydream of retiring permanently to my rural retreat and totally devoting to the spiritual teachings. This pandemic is making me wanting to retire way earlier then I expected too. |
Str0323
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 02-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 - 08:16 pm: |
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Collodial silica?
Peace,
Scott. |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 659
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2020 - 02:53 am: |
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Gday Hugo
I reckon
You just need to be neutral positive Bro
If you read the Teaching.
If i was standing on mars looking at Malona hurtle towards me like a giant missile i would not feel doomed. I would know i am unstopable. That i will be teaching somewhere else. eheh, like a butterfly. OR A Dove...
I think the free English work is the important part. I was systematic, read most twice, now i do a meditation then pick a cnote. Or i look at my stack of books, do a meditation then grab a book and open a random page.
eheh.
Anyway about dementia.
as we get older its important to keep active in every respect... Keeping the mind/musclez active,learning,socialising etc..
Activity does help with dementia, but dementia is lots of reasons and angles.
dementia is Many types of cognition problems, an umbrella term,i think current science is corrupted so dosnt cover much
To be honest i plan to work until i am ready to die... More about that later in meditation section eh eh...
I noticed with some folks they say we are doomed or like to argue or are not trying to be neutral positive and puting their negativity on everyone else... This has severe consequences if not corrected..
A simple mantra is a good remedy,or better the 77 meditations, read German too..
We are what we eat, most food in the supermarket i wont eat, i was raised normal Aussie, 5th generation, so did eat all that denatured food until i found Billy and started meditation and thinking for myself, then researching things..
Nitrates/Nitrites or preservatives... preserve you too. like a mummy.. eh eh.
Hugo i can sense if people r asking their Spirit or The Creation for what they want, its upto you what you will do or overcome, just ask your Spirit, be neutral whilst u meditate, if u cant visualuse yet just ask your spirit to brighten your vision,(works wonders for me), say the word Sun whilst looking at a candle...
having said that asking people about your father is good too Brother, i Specialise in Dementia... I am a natural at getting people who dont know where they r or who i am at trusting me. Its not difficult if u chat with then explain but always ask if its ok to do this or that. One amazing thing about dementia is when they look into my eyes, one of the last things they loose is they can LOOK Very deep into people, they cant talk, can hardly swollow food but their Spirit knowledge comes out more then, so they can look Deep into me, i let them see me, i look deep into their eyes and let them feel at ease , it touches me deeply that they from then on trust me... Know My light...
Does your father have a wife/partner?
If so you need to explain to his wife he is sick, he will do silly things, she needs to get over that and lead gently. Never make a big deal out of this, he was the leader now she is... but let him think he is still leading. Men in recent times have led and dementia can cause agression if a man does/says something that a wife thinks is stupid and she keeps on proving he is demented. His long term memory is ok, so he will not realise he is demented, but he will realise sometimes.. if that makes sense.
He will repeat himself, u get used to it after a while, just remember he is happy talking, even if he repeats himself.
Long term memory will work until final stages, for important things u need him to remember (like howto wear a mask/virus) u can make a big deal about this.. it will go into long term then.. Sometimes i do it softly by repetition, repetivly..
All Things That Are Not Good, Must be Recognised and Understood. ((Meditation)
Then You Will Neutralise Them Real GOOOOOOD!!!!
EhEh
Again.
His partner needs to realise his memory is in decline, its not deliberste, he is Very sick, just be cool and explain logic, if repetition is needed thats ok, no crime... No big deal...
If your in Oz the gov bends over backwards too keep him at home, in a big way. Whenever i think bad thoughts about gov, i remember what they do for elderly/disability..
If you have read the teaching, know the evolution you need is in front of you , every person u talk too, every good or bad thing, look for the lesson, ask your spirit to make it so u see the lessons and dont repeat lessins..
.When u ask your Spirit and it delivers a snowball effect will happen , eh eh
It will happen...
Reverence and Venerability with Neutral Positivity, Love Is Your Guide... Is howto overcome the dark side.
Darkness is a veil, created so we prevail, even death is overcome by our light, i like to Shine through the night...
Always picture the goal during the night, i always overcome the darknes, i can see myself stand on the shores of the land where all the people live as The Creation recommends...
More about acupuncture asap...
Billy has delivered for us and our mates, its a teaching upto final stages.
Sslome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1223
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2020 - 11:05 am: |
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Hugo, Ilovebilly,
Unless I am missing something, "acupuncture laser" does not require needles, it uses light, aka laser.
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 943
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2020 - 08:31 pm: |
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Ilovebilly,
My father has a (second) wife. I let her know what the doctor told me. It was up to me to take him there (for dementia tests) because she is half blind and could not. I just explained to her that she cannot let him go for walks anymore. Now she knows he has dementia and she is afraid.
I am starting to think one of the reasons that may have caused my dads dementia is he always ate junk foods. And the past decade or so he was also suffering from depression and always stressing too. |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 661
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2020 - 07:38 pm: |
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Gday Hugo/Folks
some thoughts
i know lots of folks with dementia, normally its short term memory loss for a long time, (years), then later its also long term memory that has issues. Ask him about his life and u will notice its vivid, and know his memory loss better, but ask what he had for breakfast its not often known.
U can get gps tracking necklace, bracelet if its a concern.
If he has lived at the same house for years he will find his way home no problem (until medium to late dementia) To test this go with him for a walk then say lets go home, see if he knows the way, dont let him know its a test.
Lots of times if i tell them something a few times a week they remember it after doing this for 2 to 3 months. U get used to repetition, sometimes they tell me proud moments of a life repetively, i just chat as if they told me once, they r happy.
Its important to realise if his wife dies and he will forget, each time he asks for her its best to say she is shopping or something as he will grieve (what we call first day grief, its the strongest grief and not healthy to relive it every day), ask your Dr about it.
Dementia is more difficult on the wife, more so than the male who has dementia. Being used to his strength/wisdom.
Those with dementia mostly cant grasp the situation, if they do its fleeting.But they something is wrong. At first they know though.
I always use strength based approach, (google it) basicly only do things if he cant, its the strugle that brings strength..
Dignity of risk is also a new thing, google it..
mct oil
the best mct oil in Oz that i know off is Coco Earth, as it has the 3 types of mct, one burns fast one medium one slow.. coles or woolies 500ml $11
its good to drink to bring on ketosis faster too.
can restore liver function
i drink about 60ml often
is good to cook with
sometimes i do a guided meditation, breath or Sun, i ask if they want to do things before i do it, for everything i ask, even severe cases know logic.
If he forgets who u are chat about things u know he likes until he is relaxed with u, takes 10 to 20 mins, then explain what u want, if it makes sense/logic it works. I can get them to undress and get in the shower in less than 20 mins, they dont know who i am or where they are. Explain the situation in plain english, look into their eyes. I can do this with the most difficult cases that seasoned managers cant do, using this method.
A person with dementia does realise its not good to be dirty and they need to shower.
e.g. i say who i am, chat until i csn tell they are enjoying themselves, (books are Great,) i show a pad (nappy) , i ask if he/she is wearing one, concerned he/she feels if they do, i then ask if its wet, (knowing it is,) when they say yes its wet, i say can you change it, when they say no i say i am an expert or i can assist if u like. They normally say ok or they ask questions, if they repeat questions just answer it again, repeat your questions if its forgotten. Next time will be easier as something like that can go straight into long term memory. Or they just know to trust you more each time, it gets easier. The first time at first can seem like mission impossible, just be cool, repeat, chat..
It may not help u atm, later it will. Itd good for others to know this too.
Meditation helps you with everythang too.
Late stage dementia they r bedriden , like a newborn, you still talk to them, explain what your doing.
Salome
ilovebilly
I have read old prophecies about mans state for these times, i can see it happen all around me, i ask my Spirit to make it so i remember and to make it so i am a light among them.I meditate.
I ask my Spirit to make it so i am a better man, that i know what to do.
In the future we will read about these times and wonder what it was like, and we will know.
Everything is stored, lessons/evolution for our future lives..
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Hugo
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Post Number: 944
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 02:46 pm: |
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Ilovebilly,
Thanks for all that!
Last week I ordered some cold pressed coconut oil off ebay. It should arrive this week. Hopefully he will take it. |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 663
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 19, 2020 - 04:49 am: |
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Gday Huga
no worries Bro
youtube has some good vids about coconut oil,
there are Drs on youtube giving it to relatives.
As said in this thread, logic will shine through, it just takes patience,dignity,respect, repetition.
Explain things to them. It gets easy after a while.
I feel great when i do assist them when others gave up.
mct oil is better and not much taste, good for cooking, smoothies etc...
mct is a fat from coconut the body finds easy to convert into ketones, the best fuel for the brain if it cant use carbs.
Any questions about dementia, let me know... I am a natural at assisting them to live and i also like to teach people howto die in peace.
What would be nicer than that for a job, once u read The Teaching.
When i see the state of things i dont feel down, i say to myself thats why we are here/born. I feel Stronger knowing i will evolve from it.
Meditation is an important key.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1516
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2020 - 09:08 pm: |
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Why Humans Have A Free Will
Ten days ago we briefly discussed whether humans really have a free will.
One good answer to this question is found in Quetzal's explanations about genes in CR 228:63-77. In a nutshell:
Like the brain which controls the body – so do the genes control the body cells:
Because genes are not dictatorial, can be formed are changeable - because of that there is no causal predetermination of human events – because of that humans may act in accordance with their free will.
There is only exception to this: Inherited vile, neuro-psychiatric diseases.
75. However, this is only true in the case of a vile, serious disease of a neuropsychiatric form, which is directly inherited through a single, mutated, hereditary factor and is then triggered, which also means that the hereditary disease can become further inherited.
77. If parents are suffering from such a serious hereditary disease – even just a single parent – then the disease becomes passed on to the descendants, whereby the related risk of them suffering from the hereditary disease is fifty percent.
Salome, Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1517
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2020 - 09:11 pm: |
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Hyperlink:
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_228 |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1374
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2020 - 02:23 am: |
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Why humans have a free will.
Nicely elucidated there, Bill.
Thank you.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2020 - 10:05 am: |
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Hi Bill, regarding your post 1516 above, it should also be said and is important to understand the following:
from Contact 621
Ptaah -
66. Basically, man is born purely naturally as a being that is neutral and therefore neither good nor evil, even if there is some genetic strain.
67. Even though basic prerequisites such as psychopathy etc. are given, this does not mean that the human being degenerates in this way and must therefore become an active psychopath or a serious criminal.
76. This is also the case when certain genetic predispositions or certain inactive brain cell structures are present.
77. Even if a person has hereditary, genetic, brain or physical defects, this in no way means that he or she has to lead a criminal or criminal life.
78. Basically, he has in any case the possibility – if he is pregnant with his mind and his reason – to willfully control his behaviour in any form, if he consciously strives for it and perceives the responsibility for himself as well as for his thoughts, feelings and actions.
79. So it only wonders whether man becomes aware of his thoughts and feelings and all his emotions, and whether he builds up the strength in himself to consciously create the will to precisely control everything and actually bring it under his control in order to refrain from false, criminal and serious criminal acts.
Regards
Bob |
Matthew_cicchini
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2020 - 01:56 pm: |
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Billy on Love - The Way to Live, verse 60
Hi everyone, I’m new here and wanted to share my thoughts on a passage in Billy’s book The Way To Live on love, which I have concerned myself with for a while in my own development.
I remember reading an interview with Billy in 2011 where he was asked “what is love?”. I think he answered it beautifully and consistent with his other written work. But when looking at verse 60 in The Way To Live, I was struck by Billy’s different explanation of love not only as the force and essence of all things, but as something that can be painful to us precisely because of its inherent power. For those who have not read the passage in The Way To Live, here is a link to a nice reading of verse 60.
https://youtu.be/BKuTqSRTXzM
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Upon further analysis, I realised that Billy has incorporated the words from the famous spiritual poet Kahlil Gibran and his philosophy on love in verse 60. Gibran’s prose poetry work The Prophet, to me, has a very archaic tone resembling The Talmud of Jmmanuel, and is highly renowned for covering various aspects of life and the human condition. Here is a small excerpt from the section on love,
When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep.
And when his wings enfold you yield to
him,
Though the sword hidden among his
pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in
him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams
as the north wind lays waste the garden.
For even as love crowns you so shall he
crucify you. Even as he is for your growth
so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and
caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and
shake them in their clinging to the earth.
When looking back at parts of Billy’s passage the similarities are immediately obvious. Of course, Billy did not copy it verbatim, but further elucidates on Gibran’s poetry to emphasise a startling perspective on love that encompasses pain, hardship, or some kind of overwhelming feeling of being ruled by love. As I see it, Billy utilised Gibran’s work for the purpose of clarifying what I take to be one of the most important and difficult aspects of the spiritual teachings, i.e., to accept this love within ourselves against all our beliefs and not fight against its truth/power. That in order to live according to Creations love and consciously evolve, the precondition of overcoming such pain emanating from loves force must be processed in order to integrate it completely in existence. Put differently, if this love is a like blazing eternal fire, as Billy has symbolised at times, then in order to become one with it we must commit ourselves to the flame. I hope that is understandable.
This is something I am currently undergoing and finding hard myself. I started studying Billy's work and committed myself to practising meditation as a young adult and experienced remarkable transformations. However now as I'm just entering my 30's I'm still having difficulty in processing the overwhelming struggle from an inner love that Billy and Gibran describe. Meditation has truly changed my life, and I have received everything from it, but for so long I have been struggling "to not pay attention to the blades and swords and the thorns of the bushes which hem loves wayside", as Billy puts it. I don’t think many people will understand this unless they have experienced it, and I think Billy is well are of the countless people who are entirely without such an experience despite meditating for so long. But he must have recognised Gibran as one who has experienced this given his poetry.
Nevertheless, it is so fitting that Billy, who is called the prophet (herald) of the new times, has clearly read Gibran’s The Prophet and utilised it. I would appreciate anyone’s thoughts on this aspect of love, and if anyone has experienced this in their own practise of meditation/introspection, Thanks.
Kind regards,
Matt
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1284
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2020 - 06:49 pm: |
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Matthew_cicchini post#1
Hello Matt, welcome to the forum. I have not read the book The Way To Live. Although every time I have come across words from the book, I immediately recognize what I have learned through my study of the Goblet Of The Truth.
A clear distinction needs to be recognized between affective love and the true, fine-spiritual perception, effective love.
Reading Kahlil Gibran's poetry it is clearly about the affective love. This one is certainly filled with inconsistencies, fluctuations of feelings and emotions, waning and ebb and flood like the tides of the ocean.
Affective love is possessive, controlling, inconsistent and fluctuates based on the state of the psyche and therefore can be lost, weakened, frail, yet at times strong, emotional and sometimes courageous or cowardly.
True love, of the fine spiritual perception, is free and grants freedom, is constant and never wanes, is generous and encouraging and encompasses all that is harmonious, evolutive, virtuous, edifying and uplifting.
By studying arduously the Goblet Of The Truth, I have recognized this true consciousness-based wise fine spiritual perception effective love. I have recognized it in the nature through observation, fathoming and recognition and equally in all its splendor through the inner nature, which is our spirit, which enlivens us and our consciousness block and is the reason why we are alive and exist. Which therethrough I recognize the Creation universal consciousness and thereby my co-existence with everything, the BEING and nonbeing of the Creation.
Of greater value is this effective, true, fine spiritual perception love which does not wither, wane nor decrease and is freedom and freedom-offering in the true sense of the words.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2020 - 11:16 pm: |
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Hello,
Developing love, whether it be affective or effective, has it's ups and downs.
Embracing the effective creational love is as much a teacher of life as is every situation and experience in life. Thus, in my mind, it requires the mistakes to be made and hardships to be endured in order to progressively continue on the path of creational truth and love.
While I can gratefully describe the creational love, out of lived experience, in it's nature as constant, graceful, sweet, peaceful, evolutive, growth-giving, freedom-giving etc., the human experience on the road to it's fulfillment is wholly different. It casts upon the human being the responsibility to evolve and learn, and that in itself is fraught with all kinds of hardships and problems big and small. One cannot experience effective creational love without taking the path of self-responsibility, self-honesty, duty and evolution.
I think that is what is essentially being said in Kahlil Gibran's poem. The road of the truth and true love is rough and rocky; it gives much but also demands as much.
For me, effective creational love is like a beacon on the sea; it guides me and I can always look to it for comfort and assurance, but I still have to sail the waters and fight the waves myself.
Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 739
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 06:57 am: |
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I'll add in and say, I would not necessarily worry about love meaning, you'll have plenty of opportunities to know "love" and also it cannot be expressed in "words".
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1227
Registered: 04-2013
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Greetings Matthew_cicchini,
Welcome to the FIGU forum. The book, “The Way to Live” is one of my favorites. IMO, pertaining to Earthlings present state of development, building a foundation of comparisons is a must for learning and developing true wisdom; experiencing affective love is part of the journey before we can understand and experience wisdom-creational effective love. Realizing these truthful events in our development can be challenging, nonetheless extremely rewarding.
It may be easy to assume at first glance that the concept of love should be simply understood in the familiar way as presented to us by the world’s religions. But a closer look at how love is explained, in this renewed teaching of the truth, shows us the critical difference between the renewed teaching, with its all-important focus on reality, and religious teachings. This spiritual teaching of Billy Meier and the Plejaren extraterrestrials concerns itself with things which exist in reality, and which can sooner or later be discovered by every individual if sufficient effort is made to do so. It concerns the actual reality of Creation’s laws and thus also of nature’s laws. But religious teachings concern themselves with belief which requires no logical evidence and breeds up delusion which removes us from reality.
In Billy’s book, Gesetz der Liebe, [GdL] (Law of Love), Billy explains that love is essential for all evolution and life. Without love nothing can be created, and no transformation can occur. Love is necessary for all change. (p.1)
Billy (GdL, p.34) says that the Earth human being is not evolved enough to be able to create true, wisdom-based love within himself/herself. Only a few human beings on Earth are on the threshold of this highest form of wisdom-creational love. The majority still lives in the lower forms of false, affective love. Is it any wonder then that so much goes awry on this planet, if the very growth medium for our evolution is inadequate? Fortunately, with enough striving and effort, we can actually begin to learn what love really is by observing the difference between genuine love and the false love which is predominantly practised on this planet.
Wisdom-conditioned love is,
Billy explains that, in contrast to false love, “…wisdom-conditioned, genuine love is a wellspring of eternal-constancy, which is absolutely independent of the human being’s age, appearance and personality, ...” (GdL, p.15). With a false form of love, however, factors like age, appearance and personality do play an important role, (GdL, p.18) as does one’s material wealth, profession and societal position, and such things. But such factors are only as pronounced as the degree of durability and constancy of a human being’s personality. Therefore, this emotion-based, false form of love is subject to enormous fluctuations in its intensity and can thus suffer changes and can even transform into rage and hatred. Billy’s deeper explanations of these two types of love - the genuine, effective love and the false, affective love - serve as an invaluable instruction manual for analysing, deepening or transforming our own personal forms of love which we have for our fellow human beings and all other things and beings with which we share our existence.
Sincerely
Kenneth
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 11-2008
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Msmichelle,
Well said. It is subjective and one knows when one 'feels' it :-).
Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1524
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2020 - 05:51 am: |
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Love.
Picture the one and only house in midst a jungle of high rise buildings.
With a backyard and a very large tree.
And on this tree a bird, which sings with all is might and beauty.
It sings so beautifully that the man inside the house opens his door, looks up, connects with the little singer and beams all his love up to him.
A few minutes later.
The man just has closed the door, went in his house, when he hears the same singing bird again.
But this time it is much, much closer.
So the man opens his door..
And who sits there – on the last flight of stairs, just one metre in front of him and sings so magnificently with all its might?
It is the bird that flew down from the tree.
And it brought his child with him.
And they both sit there, and sing, and are not afraid of anything and do not want to leave …
Love is oneness.
When we “live to know” that there are "no others".
Salome, Bill |
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