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    Getknowledge Member Post Number: 203 Registered: 04-2008 |
Paraphrased from Die Psyche, page 164: Neutral-positive thinking, represented by a wishful dream must be applied in the absolute present tense and already in the present, that is the key, because the consciousness acts completely logical. A wish dream stated in a future tense evaluated as a future wish may not be used. Tien | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 300 Registered: 04-2006 |
This is from Billy's "basic rules of man". 16. Each human being shall always live in the present, but he shall look into the future and care for its shaping, while also considering the past and learning from it, in order to attain success, realizations and progress. There's also another saying of his from another teaching that I will look for and post later... Peace, Matt | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 550 Registered: 04-2015 |
Getknowledge, thanks! But I think I didn't word my question right...again. I meant to say to entertain my wishful dream of retiring in future to countryside in the present tense. Is that ok? | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 465 Registered: 02-2010 |
Hugo, Eddie, I agree!! Right now, I'm "Living" as if I'm already Retired, by constantly "focusing" esp while I'm in my back yard. Hugo, I thought you already was living on a large piece of land? MsMichelle | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 204 Registered: 04-2008 |
I think the passages suggest that to be ok. Tien | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 920 Registered: 08-2010 |
One thing to keep in mind, and the Might Of The Thoughts also touches upon this subject, there is a difference between a goal (Ziel) and fantasy wishful dream. With neutral positive thinking, meaning a ziel to achieve or accomplish, then it is necessary to visualize it as you wish it to be. In this case the consciousness can attend to the idea (ziel) accurately and intuitively. In this way the inspiration is made accurate towards the actual fulfillment. As it says in the Goblet Of The Truth, to be the best planners, just as Creation planned out its ideas... On the other hand, it also speaks about envisioning or dreaming of "building houses in the sky." Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2829 Registered: 12-1999 |
In the Intro to The Meditation it is mentioned that the subconscious understands images that are created as ES IST SO (IT IS SO), meaning the reality of what you imagine already exists. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 551 Registered: 04-2015 |
Msmichelle, not yet. I own a large piece of land in the countryside but still live in suburbia. I dream of moving there someday in the next 10-15 years when I am no longer tied to suburbia due to work and family. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1076 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hey Matt, to respect forum requirements of brevity and server conservation, I will have to be as concise as I can. I will write in the form of a progression in order to formulate the cognition that pertains to your questions... to the best of my current abilities. Unlike "belief"... Faithfulness (trusting/trustworthiness) is a creational recommendation that occupies a two-sided coin, namely to be alert and cautious at the same time. It says in the book Arahat Athersata pg 54: 130. But the Earth human being should beware of false wise ones and false prophets, because these permeate all times and spaces like malicious ulcers. In the Goblet Of The Truth we learn that the prophets only tell us what we should "look at" and not "how to look". Nature tells us that power and force require energy of one form or another. So how I came upon my personal recognition of my spiritform (from the perspective of/as my personality) was through the cognitions from the study, fathoming, recognition and application of creational laws and recommendations as I learned them (and continue so) from the Goblet Of The Truth. In the book Arahat Athersata pg. 204:49-50 it says; "And when the life bearer is spoken of here, then it is not of those in material form, the germ itself, but rather of the spiritual life bearer which makes itself noticeable in everything as spirit-energy and embodiment of brazen regulation, laws and recommendation of creational origin; in the Earth human being, therefore, the spirit-form, respectively, the spirit itself. 50. It alone forms the life bearer, filled up with creational power which the Creation has given to each of its creations as an ur-idea and has put into them." NOTE: Through the ever expanding cognitions, it eventually appears odd, even humorous, to a spiritual human being, to look in the mirror and ask him/herself; What evidence is there of my spiritform? But I digress. Within the section regarding the secret sciences in the book Arahat Athersata, is the following explanation which one can put to the test and begin to discover, through introspect and retrospect, the truthfulness and evidence thereof. Arahat Athersata pg. 290-292 419. It must be clear that the consciousness itself is neither good nor evil, but rather fully neutral. 421. Thus the consciousness is aligned precisely with the kind of thinking and creates good or evil or equalizedness, happiness or unhappiness, health or illness, approval or disapproval, etc. 422. The consciousness is the actual motor which develops, releases and brings to use the tremendous power which influences and brings about everything according to the mode of thinking. 435. The whole secret of a successful, good and healthy life-conduct consists of looking into oneself and adjusting oneself to the right thinking-form, to bring the thinking into harmony and consonance with the power of the spirit, in order to thus achieve the best possible absolutely full development of the present life. So in summary: After careful and thorough consideration and contemplation, recognition of the wisdom in the words of the prophets is revealed to the searching & researching one. From this comes a trust, which as an encouragement, stimulates the striving, which brings about cognitions regarding the creational regulation, out of which love, knowledge and wisdom blossom and expand. Through the knowledge of the consciousness, namely of the subconsciousness, non-consciousness, etc and the abilities thereof, namely the intuition and so forth, as also the psyche and the gemut, the knowing ones eventually recognize the power of their spirit and then begin to regulate their might and abilities, just as Creation regulates, through the laws and recommendations of the creation by means of the love power which is the true love. Arahat Athersata pg.372: 213. says this about true love; True love arises from a secure knowledge in recognition of a Gemut-based spiritual fine-sensitive feeling, through which it becomes wisdom. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Josecarlospremium New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2019 |
Hello I am new to the site, and being straight on the question, doubt, in the book of arahat athersata, says that all spirits are different age from each other, but says that the "spirit form is different too". This last part ("spirit form is different too") did not understand, someone explains. original excerpt: "Selbst dem unwissenden Menschen muss klar sein, dass alle Lebensformen unterschiedlich im Alter sind, so also auch die Geistformen. " | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1081 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Josecarlospremium Your question pertains to Arahat Athersata page 94 sentence 276. The analogy is about the evolution of the consciousness and our spirit-form. See page 92 sentence 274. According to the age of the spirit, the material-consciousness is therefore knowing to a greater or lesser extent, or it is already highly evolved and wise. On page 94 sentence 276 explains that everyone is clear of the fact that in every life form (human, animals, plants, etc.) can be found those with different ages (babies, teenagers, young, old, etc.)... it is the same with our spirit (spirit-form). Page 94 sentence 276. Even to the unknowing human being, it must be clear that all life forms are different in age, so therefore also the spirit-forms. Read carefully sentence 280 found on page 94 for a more thorough explanation. Page 94 sentence 280. Accordingly, it must be comprehensible to the Earth human being that there are young and old, older and very old spirit-forms, which conditioned by law naturally also belong to different levels of spiritual evolution, just as this is also the case with Earth human beings themselves in their material life, because there are also young and old life forms and also their knowledge and ability are evolved highly in different manners. You can also learn very much with the study of the Goblet Of The Truth. It contains all the spiritual teaching of the seven prophets. Billy and FIGU made it available as a free pdf: https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/buecher/figu-kelch_der_wahrheit_goblet-of-the-truth_v_20150307.pdf Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Josecarlospremium New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2019 |
Eddieamartin thanks for the explanation, I am Brazilian and the translation in my language was a bit confusing. thank you very much. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1082 Registered: 08-2010 |
Josecarlospremium, You are welcome. Glad I could help. And welcome to the forum. My late wife was Brazilian, you are a beautiful people with the best of hearts. Salome Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Rigel New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2019 |
Hello, new to this forum, not sure if this is the correct place to add this question, if not please let me know where may be better! From my peripheral understanding, it is possible for humans to travel to other creations from that of our own through the use of technology (for example DAL -> DERN) it then follows that one should be able to die, and reincarnate within a different creation... should not also then be able to make that second creation their "home" and continue to evolve there and eventually merge with that non-originating creation? - Ry | ||
Josecarlospremium Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 09-2019 |
I think the spirit form, when it reaches petale level and reaches its relative perfection, this form returns to the original creation from which it was created. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1065 Registered: 04-2013 |
Greetings Ry, Welcome to the FIGU forum. You are correct. If one travels to another universe and then dies there, that is where their spiritform will incarnate, according to cosmic law. For our universe, it used to be 1.52 time the age at death, for the next reincarnation of the same spiritform to take place, not the personality. That equation may change depending on the specifics of a different location? It’s my understanding that the same law applies in different dimensions as well. The caveat is, it all depends on the spiritual and technical advancement of both. For instance, if one travels to another planet in another universe that is NOT as technically and spiritually advanced when the traveler passed, there will be a waiting period until that particular world in that universe catches up to the traveler previous technological and spiritual development. It’s all about the spirit aka spiritform. Other may be able to shed more light on this subject? Kenneth | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 569 Registered: 02-2010 |
Josecarlos and Rigel....what books have you read by BEAM? MsMichelle | ||
Yoid Member Post Number: 141 Registered: 12-2008 |
Hi! I would like to know how does human spirit affect human DNS and ageing.Is it true or not that the older the geist is the longer can human live. thanks | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1132 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Yoid, One’s spirit is neutral and immortal – it does not influence ,neither the human DNS, nor the aging. Re Spirit read: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Spirit) To find out what influences aging, read - I - Ptaah’s explanation (CR39:61-85) 1. A human’s genes 2. His outer influences: a) Food intake b) Environmental Forces incl. the thoughts of others: a person’s life is shortened if there are many people in his environement that follow erroneous teachings, wrong life styles etc. Human “wrong thinking” affects as well the animals and other materials negatively. (Ptaah mentions that even iron starts to rust on Earth much quicker bec man’s thoughts and ideas have a destructive influence on the environment) c) Cosmic Forces - II - Semjase’s / Billy’s explanations in CR 127:28-56 Basically it is the genes that determine the age of a human being. But at the same time, through the programming of the genes a special brain acid (the aging acid LEKATRON) is created through which the cells are attacked and brought to death… Details see CR 127: 28-56: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_127 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/1157.html#POST87581 (Note: Billy’s “Leider eben nicht” is now re-translated into „Unfortunately not.“) Acc. to Billy: A human’s genes are changed ( “programmed”?) by his consciousness-based attitude, his state of psyche, his food intake (food, beverages but as well drugs, medicaments, alcohol) and climatic and atmospheric changes. Billy to Quetzal in CR 228 (CR 228:63-64): http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_228 Salome, Bill | ||
Kevin27 New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2019 |
Hi i would like to know from billy or whoever can speak to him about why there is apparently a 20 million year difference in the time some spirit forms reach the first level of arahat athersata , it is said it takes 40-60 million years for a spirit form to reach this level. if all spirit forms are created equal from creation and if a human appears idiotic then that only means they are a new spirit compared to others around it , how is it that some spirits would take 20 million years more to reach this level? Christian Frehner once said (not sure if he was joking) some stubborn and lazy people need 60 million years but aren't those traits of an incarnating human personality? And i thought a spirit creates a new personality each time they reincarnate. As human spirits have no personality until they are at high pure spirit levels and have some sense of an individuality, and all spirits are created equal from creation I can only conclude this is from outside influences maybe the incarnating spirit is repeatedly incarnating around other sprits who are of a low evolution and they are impacting the spirit negatively or maybe these spirits who take longer are repeatedly from planets that were destroyed so they had to move to new planets frequently thus taking more time for the spirit to evolve ? (to moderators accidentally submitted post twice , i meant to correct my error of 40-60 million years for the half spirit form not Ararat Athersata which is 60- 80 billion years but in both cases my question still lies) | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1109 Registered: 08-2010 |
Kevin27, Welcome to the forum. In your first post, you present a great question. However, the complete answer, which delves into the creational laws and recommendations, the power and abilities of the Consciousness..... for this, the Goblet Of The Truth is of interest to you. Here's my snippet: There is a law of the evolution, this law offers a recommendation. The creational recommendation is that we should take responsibility for our own evolution in love, knowledge, wisdom, harmony, the virtues, the character, etc. Fortunately, sufficient time is provided for the striving ones. Any spiritform that does not evolve into the spirit levels is absorbed back into the Creation. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Kevin27 New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2019 |
thank you eddie for the answer , where did you get that info ? in this link answered by billy and CF , all spirits will reach the first level of arahat athersata . also i have read some of that book are you sure my question is answered in it? https://ca.figu.org/reincarnation-q-a.html "You shall not take this literally because it is just a "if". In reality this will not be the case because no spirit form will be left back. Each spirit form will reach the level of Arahat Athersata and upwards ". (Note by CF: Some stubborn and lazy people need 60 million years, others need 40 million years only to reach the level of the High Counsel. It looks like some individuals are in need of "einem 'Chlapf' mit der Geissel", as we say in Switzerland.) | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1110 Registered: 08-2010 |
Kevin27 That's correct, human spiritforms yes. All other spiritforms, such as in fauna and flora, will be absorbed. The 20 million year difference is based on the personal efforts and will, of each individual. Regarding your other question; Yes, the Goblet Of The Truth is of interest to you. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) |
