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Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1253 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2020 - 08:24 am: |
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Cpl Chris, you should have a read of Arahat Athersata. In the German/English pages 74-76 you will read an interesting insight and explanations about the consciousness-based subconsciousness. Starting from line 181. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Cpl Member
Post Number: 1344 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2020 - 09:57 pm: |
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Exactly so, Eddie. I have always sensed that. I love AA too. My copy has more than 25 sticky notes sticking out from its pages. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Phi_spiral Member
Post Number: 78 Registered: 04-2020
| Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2020 - 10:16 pm: |
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Tat_tvam_asi/ Bill:"... it truly changes my concept of the “spirit” to which the “Mein Geist” prayer is directed." Hi, Bill. This might help to understand even better. It is an excerpt from, Rund um die Fluidalenegie, page 379: With regard to the traditional prayer "My spirit, who is omnipotent," actually does not mean the spirit itself, but the consciousness. In bezug auf das altherkömmliche Gebet «Mein Geist der du bist in Allmacht», damit ist eigentlich nicht der Geist selbst gemeint, sondern das Bewusstsein. The spirit itself is neutral, and it cannot be addressed either. In fact, this does neither harm nor benefit people because it is absolutely taboo. Der Geist selbst ist neutral, und er kann auch nicht angesprochen werden. Tatsächlich tut dieser dem Menschen weder etwas zuleide noch etwas zugute, denn er ist absolut tabu. But man, when he/she speaks of the spirit or when the spirit is spoken to, unconsciously addresses his/her consciousness because this is what is basically meant. Aber der Mensch, wenn er vom Geist redet oder wenn zu ihm vom Geist geredet wird, spricht damit unbewusst sein Bewusstsein an, weil grundsätzlich dieses gemeint ist. In earlier times, apart from the prophets and wise men, no one on earth knew what a consciousness is, only the spirit was spoken of, and that is still often the case today. Zu früheren Zeiten hat ausser den Propheten und Weisen noch kein Mensch auf der Erde gewusst, was ein Bewusstsein ist, es wurde nur vom Geist geredet, und das ist auch heute noch vielfach der Fall. I wasn't sure if you were aware, so I posted it. Regards Bob |
   
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1453 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 01:02 am: |
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Thank you, Bob. Yes, now that you point it out I do remember reading that the "Geist" in the "Mein Geist" prayer is the "consciousness" rather than the "spirit". So maybe today - to prevent similar confusions - the prayer should be "Mein Bewusstsein"? But it is good that we discuss this matter. Because my confusion may well arise from combining "Geist" in the "Mein Geist" prayer with what Semjase tells us re. the "Geist" in CR 10 - and this confusion should be clarified, too: E.g. CR 10:100 -103 In the human being the constant conscious feeling should reign, that s/he belongs to the creational, with his/her actual spiritual breath, his/her actual spiritual BEING. Consciousness-based it shall be clear to him/her that his/her actual spiritual BEING is inseparably one with the creational, so as to overcome the material outer world in this consciousness. Because only the one who is one with the spirit can in the long run recognize and also do good, because s/he has the capabilities of the Creation in him/herself. 102. This creational-philosophical truth and cognition should always, first and foremost, control the human thinking, feeling, and acting. 103. Because only the one who is one with the spirit can in the long run recognise and also do good, because s/he has the capabilities of the Creation in him/herself. Does Semjase speak as well only of the human consciousness - that we should become one with our own consciousness? Or should we be "one with our spirit" which may be in line with our evolution from a material to a spiritual being and which we may bring us closer to our "Empfindungen" which are related to the spirit? Salome, Bill German Original 100. Im Menschen sollte das ständige bewusste Gefühl herrschen, dass er dem Schöpferischen angehört, mit seinem eigentlichen geistigen Atem, seinem eigentlichen geistigen SEIN. 101. Es soll ihm bewusstseinsmässig klar sein, dass sein eigentliches geistiges SEIN untrennbar eins ist mit dem Schöpferischen, um so in diesem Bewusstsein die materielle äussere Welt zu überwinden. 102. Diese schöpferisch-philosophische Wahrheit und Erkenntnis sollte stets in erster Linie das menschliche Denken, Fühlen und Handeln beherrschen. 103. Denn nur wer eins mit dem Geist ist, kann auf die Dauer erkennen und auch Gutes verrichten, denn er hat die Möglichkeiten der Schöpfung in sich
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Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1256 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 09:01 am: |
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Tat_tvam_asi Bill, you bring up an interesting question regarding Semjase's intro to the spiritual teaching. Re; your question: Does Semjase speak as well only of the human consciousness - that we should become one with our own consciousness? My thoughts: According to the Goblet of the Truth and the book Arahat Athersata, there is no duality or separateness but only a oneness or hyper-oneness when two wholes join together and become a oneness. From what I have learned so far, the hyper-oneness (one with our consciousness) would require a consciousness-based knowledge of the self, it is this knowledge of the self that aligns us with our better inner nature which according to Arahat Athersata is a "something alive" in us. The first factor is the spirit and the second factor is the consciousness-based subconsciousness. Because when we understand what comprises a human being, with all our consciousness powers and abilities, we realize that we can do some amazing things, because of this creational-based knowledge. I often present this question to my religious friends; since Jesus didn't command the water to support Peter, how was Peter able to walk on water and only started sinking when his mind was distracted by the waves? Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Phi_spiral Member
Post Number: 79 Registered: 04-2020
| Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 01:23 pm: |
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Hi Bill Semjase is indeed speaking of the 'spirit' and not 'consciousness', per your question in post 1453, and a deeper understanding of what she is saying will become clearer to you. For most of mankind at the time of Jmmanuel, the 'consciousness' was not evolved enough to understand what consciousness is. (You have to love the irony in that. ) Therefore, the closest concept of value was used for that time; which in the case for 'consciousness', was 'spirit'. The prophet, in the form of Billy, still does that today by the way; as exemplified in this answer to a forum question: My question is about how you were able to see Semjase while you were still on Earth but she was near death on Erra with her head injury. You said in a FIGU bulletin that you had sent something like antenna or feelers of your consciousness to Erra in response to a reader question. Then in your last answer to me about the same subject, you said that you did NOT send your consciousness at all, but rather used spirit telepathy. Can you clarify this for me please? Billy: The problem is that the Earth human cannot understand this process for a long time to come. The term „spirit telepathy“ is just an attempt to come close to an explanation of the process, because actually it isn’t plain spirit telepathy. There are more „things“ involved, like the forces of the spirit form, because you cannot do this with consciousness-related forces alone. Everything has to do with „Feinstoffsinnlichkeit“, a term you don’t find in the English vocabulary. Regards Bob |
   
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1457 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 08:39 pm: |
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Thank you Eddy and Bob for clarifying this very essential question. Yes, I thought so, too - that Semjase meant "the spirit". I inferred: As humans evolve more and more into "beings of the spirit" they should see reality with a more and more balanced - neutral i.e. "spirit"- perspective. But I mistakenly thought that the "Mein Geist" prayer were expressing, what Semjase explained, in a prayer. Thank you again. Salome, Bill |
   
Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1258 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 11:43 pm: |
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Phi_spiral Bill, would you help us understand the significance of „Feinstoffsinnlichkeit“ in regards to Billy attempting to explain the evolutionary-level and the process and the powers and forces associated with the ability to have observed Semjase after her accident. „Feinstoffsinnlichkeit“ has to do with a form of space travel? Or to do with fine matter? Would you help us with a little understanding? Thank you. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Phi_spiral Member
Post Number: 80 Registered: 04-2020
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 08:13 am: |
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Eddieamartin: "„Feinstoffsinnlichkeit“ has to do with a form of space travel? Or to do with fine matter? Would you help us with a little understanding?" The FIGU dictionary defines Feinstoffsinnlichkeit as "fine-fluid-sensualness, the" Excerpt from Rund um die fluidalenergie, page 214: Furthermore, it should also be explained that the spirit-form also has a fluidic force resp. via a fluidal body, a fluid being or a fluid field, only that this is of a completely different nature than the mental fluidic forces of man or any other life form. The fluidic force of the spirit-form is - like the mental fluidal force of the human being - evolutionary, whereby it does not consist of mental forces, but of spiritual-creative energy, which is much more subtle than the spirit-form itself, which ultimately only consists of a certain one spiritual and creative energy. "Weiter ist dazu aber zu erklären, dass die Geistform ebenfalls über eine Fluidalkraft resp. über einen Fluidalkörper resp. über ein Fluidalwesen oder ein Fluidalfeld verfügt, nur dass dieses völlig anders geartet ist als die mentalen Fluidalkräfte des Menschen oder irgendwelcher anderer Lebensformen. Die Fluidalkraft der Geistform ist — wie die mentale Fluidalkraft des Menschen — evolutionsbedingt, wobei sie jedoch nicht aus mentalen Kräften besteht, sondern aus geistig-schöpferischer Energie, die um sehr vieles feinstofflicher ist als die Geistform selbst, die ja letztendlich auch nur aus einer bestimmten geistig-schöpferischen Energie besteht." In Contact 96, Billy explained that he sent his "spiritual consciousness on wanderings" to check on Semjase's condition. It is somewhat explained better in this passage: The spiritual fluidal body is also called the spirit-consciousness body, whereby, of course, as in every other case, the fluidal forces are embedded in the fluidal body. Like the spirit itself, the spirit fluid body with its fluid forces is also space, time and dimensionless. This means that both the spirit fluid body and the spirit fluid force as vibratory forces, in fluidal form, exist uninhibited in all spaces, times and dimensions and can be effective as well as <wander>, just as the impulses of the spirit consciousness can carry out the consciousness wanderings. But just as the spirit-consciousness is able to carry out <wanderings>, the same applies to the spirit-fluidal body and its inherent fluidic force. "Der geistige Fluidalkörper wird auch Geistbewusstseinkörper genannt, wobei natürlich, wie in jedem anderen Fall auch, die Fluidalkräfte im Fluidalkörper eingebettet sind. Wie der Geist selbst, ist auch der Geistfluidalkörper mit seinen Fluidalkräften raum-, zeit und dimensionenlos. Das bedeutet, dass sowohl der Geistfluidalkörper als auch die Geistfluidalkraft als Schwingungskräfte, in eben fluidaler Form, in allen Räumen, Zeiten und Dimensionen ungehemmt existieren und wirksam sein sowie <wandern> können, ebenso wie die Impulse des Geistbewusstseins, das Bewusstsein-Wanderungen durchzuführen vermag. Wie aber nun das Geistbewusstsein <wanderungen> durchzuführen vermag, so gilt dasselbe auch für den Geist-Fluidalkörper und seine ihm innewohnende Fluidalkraft." But we are still far away from being able to use such at out stage of evolution. Regards Bob Translation may contain errors. |
   
Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1261 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 09:21 am: |
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Phi_spiral Bob, thank you for taking the time to write your post. Clearly, these are things which we will corroborate at a future stage of evolution. At least, we can today try and recognize the creational laws that brought these abilities/capabilities into existence for our use and benefit when we reach that stage of evolution... much like a reward for well doing. So the Creation is not just fairness but all the virtues that make existence a wonderful experience. Thank you for the food for thought. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Ilovebilly Member
Post Number: 678 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 - 10:47 pm: |
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Abilities and powers are increased by shaving ALL PUBIC AREAS IT STOPS CANCER AND MANY PROBLEMS This info will change medicine around the world. I patent this information to the figu to use freely as they wish to heal the world of many ailments including cancer. The Figu to use as they wish to heal ailments all over the world, this is a first release of this information anywhere The Reason The Plejaren dont like pubic areas: ALSO taking deworm medication shaving will help fight covid the reason the Plejaren dont like pubic hair is there are lifeforms we cant see with our eyes, these are the leaches they mention, the reason for lower back pain, eye problems, cancer and many more ailments these are the leaches they say cause cancer if you look at a pyramidion like structure with the sun near it (a church steeple is a good example) and you can see very small nematodes are on the surface of your retina, look at the stepple and notice the nematodes will fall out of your vision after a few minutes Looking at people i can notice if they have these nematodes, hunched back, sore wrists, they look worried, If you are HOT and sweaty and get red sore eyes you definatly have these leachs and need to you need to keep clean they eat and shit on our food when airborn stage incense is important they put negative fluidal energy on everything you need to wash walls and especially mirrors Billy will know if this is true and will verify it. Joints that feel sore and make cracking noises Light meditaion scares them off as they dont like light, if you feel vibrations on your body do a light meditation in your head, {visualise light in your head and then on body too} to fast track our evolution here we need to sort this out as these nematodes cause negative thinking on a GRAND Scale wash at least once a day, wash well alcohol rub pubic areas if you feel hot on your head for no reason, have a wash with luke warm water, on head neck and chest strong magnets are good on lower spine Salome ilovebilly more about this soon Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Schantz Member
Post Number: 216 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 - 11:21 pm: |
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Apparently shaving in public will not keep you from going mad despite all the other benefits. |
   
Ilovebilly Member
Post Number: 679 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - 08:51 am: |
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Gday Scott it should improve overall health and immune system Best Regards ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Msmichelle Member
Post Number: 770 Registered: 02-2010
| Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - 07:09 pm: |
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ILoveBilly, unfortunately you appear to suffer from the same as most people on this planet....you take the simple action of shaving as a miracle event instead of just shaving MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Matthew Member
Post Number: 187 Registered: 03-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 - 01:48 pm: |
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Thanks Hugo. (Re. Post Number: 1002 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8872.html) Billy's info is the benchmark for me until better info comes along or has been established because of own efforts. With dreams, you really have to have an interest to increase understanding of them, but they're also a kind of artistry in that you can think differently about them years on. They're a spring of creativity and multidimensional. Certainly don't put myself above anyone if those ones I relayed are any real indication. Whilst I'm advanced in some ways, as with dreaming (dreams don't lie), creativity and intuition, I'm behind in other ways and wouldn't describe myself as a neutrally-balanced man if we're talking on a consistent basis. Episodic, increasingly infrequent, bouts of inner strife, instability and depression can happen at any time thanks to my incestuous (first cousins) grandparents (bloody religion) and having 7, (or is it 8 or 9... I lost count) unnecessary medical operations where ear grommets were inserted under general anesthetic between the age of 7 to 14 as a result of my mother whose dead now and wouldn't take no for an answer (again, as a result of her parents / my grandparents + religion). That's not putting me down, but full disclosure and as I'm not that bad and can regain control after short, non-violent, bouts of instability every several years and longer or shorter times of depression. Relationships have suffered as the short circuit somewhere is undetectable, I don't have a diagnosis to easily explain and it's not helpful to focus on it in my day to day. My brain is like a car without fog lights or a misfiring piston and all I can do is check the oil, antifreeze, sparks and try to turn it over and keep driving. Most people would not detect anything was wrong as it's not 'overt' and I can work, but there's just an aspect that's out of kilter and all I can do is self-isolate and increasingly so now. Not moaning as have had many interesting experiences. My first memory and being cognitive of thought was in church surrounded by people looking down in the pram at me with stupid smiles on their faces and I wondered why they were unhappy and yet smiling. I've more than enough from Billy to keep me busy in my free time. Matthew |
   
Hugo Member
Post Number: 1003 Registered: 04-2015
| Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 - 06:56 pm: |
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Matthew, We all have our own problems! I'm currently trying to deal with spontaneous negative thoughts coming to my mind, especially now with the virus. I'm in the second read through of the Might of The Thoughts book. Billy explains how to deal with it well in the book but it is still not that easy for me. But I'll keep working on it and get through it one day. I never read much of Billy's teachings on dream interpretations. So I don't know if someone can have dreams related to a previous life/personalities? |
   
Ilovebilly Member
Post Number: 696 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 - 08:08 pm: |
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Gday Folks My thoughts about dreams and other stuff: If a dream is vivid and easy to remember and also happens more than once i take special note of it. Also In meditation i have seen LOTS of things/places and goto some of these places daily, each one has a different quality.. A meditation art book is good to have, A3 is small and i remember All... When/AFTER i did a dedicated meditation on numbers 3 to 9 i saw LOTS of thangs, places from past/present/future, different dimensions etc... About shaving, our mates say pubes where put back for negative reasons and they are VERY strict about figu folks using the meditation room (shaved) at The Figu HQ Some of the religious practices are for good reason, like shaving, washing feet,arms,face etc... often (instead of showers), Certain Hats, spring cleaning and other things, more about that later... The giza dudes/dark ones have used mind control on these groups for eons, they learnt ways to combat it if you look into it, i will do a post about that soon, meditation shows howto handle it easily/calmly and teach them the benefits of studying The Teaching and be your own boss/smith of your destiny... Its fun actually, showing the power of The Teaching as a good example, trust me i know from years of experience Salome ilovebilly We can overcome ANY obstacle with reverence n venerability, Love as our guide and Neutral Positivity, fearless a must and meditation, its howto build any Nation When you know you are Schöpfungsenergie who ALWAYS overcomes darkness, (even death is just a veil) the fearless part is not difficult Meditation brings out our defences, i have some beauties, and freak the dark dudes out way more than they can freak me out... not many will believe whats happened to me since 2013, the energies i do understand when exposed to them... i am like a boobytrap eheh, and lots of them are out there, looking like lambs rofl The Sun ALWAYS Rises! Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Matthew Member
Post Number: 189 Registered: 03-2011
| Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2021 - 05:57 pm: |
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Norm, Yes, re. problems. What is it they say: "A problem shared is a problem". Nothing else... just a problem (to be worked out). Ilovebilly, I think that's the best approach re. Write down the ones that stick out. The way I approach dreams is to not try to work them out, but think about the feelings and memories they invoke. Dreams know me better than I know myself if that makes any sense, but what I mean is that "they", i.e., dreams, are intimate, they know you, your loves and hates, etc., so they don't "talk" to you like people do. They are a short form of communication based on a personal language of symbols built up over many lifetimes. Once felt out and thought about in a freely associating way without self-judgment, the purpose of the dream becomes clear. As part of my study, I noted the following types of dreams, including those related to previous lives (I've since added Billy's explanations, but he's published more comprehensive info recently - I think in 'The Psyche' but these were my findings): Past-related dreams with subcategories: Past incarnation-related dreams (from personal storage bank) [Note 2021: Perhaps from bones / residual fluidal forces?]. Present life situations relating to significant events in a previous incarnation and the outcome. Collective blocks of stored consciousness from all forms of life (non-human memories - planetary memory). Fluidal energy in objects dreams, recordings of people in the past, communicating with and releasing these. "Psychics" call this casting the spirits out. Ancient and Ur-Origin life / event translations. Present dreams; subcategories: Life situation dreams. [From Billy: Träume aus dem Tagesgeschehen = dreams based on experiences from one’s daily life]. Nightmares [From Billy: Alpträume]. Wish / Pleasure fulfillment (encouraging motivation towards a desired outcome). Psychological / psyche-related dreams [From Billy: Träume aus bestehenden Gedanken und Gefühlen = dreams based on existing thoughts and feelings]. Planetary consciousness block related dreams. Universal, other dimensional, ET telepathic, creative energy telepathic dreams. Biochemical dreams (for triggering needed biochemical reactions, changes and healing). Mammalian, animal, creature, plant fine material communications. (Shaman "knowing" where foods or water can be found or avoided). Conscious, fine energy teleportation, involving the Gemut. (Flying or fast dreams). Conversations of consciousness = telepathy, dreams about others we know or we're drawn to for learning. The Oneness. Confidence in the life and death cycle. Love. Visions [From Billy: Wahrträume = True dreams = kind of a vision]. Future-related dreams; subcategories: Warning or prescient dreams in the form of symbols / events / information which identifies a probable outcome to be avoided, neutralized or moved towards. Future incarnations (Shared learning with or from future incarnations to mark points of significant growth [like smoke or fire signals across time]. Matthew |
   
Schantz Member
Post Number: 231 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2021 - 10:33 pm: |
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Matthew, I recommend listening to Roy Orbison sing his dream baby song. It's much more dreamy and soothing than your technical version. Maybe you'll sleep better. |
   
Matthew Member
Post Number: 190 Registered: 03-2011
| Posted on Monday, May 03, 2021 - 01:07 pm: |
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Hi Schantz, Deep sleep is a prerequisite for identifying dream types. Dream study is not a traditional field that gains important titles so can seem silly or fair game for derision and I'm used to that. However, when we don't have someone advising us on a course of action for current situations, as we have from Billy today, dream data can provide a useful steer and even be lifesaving as Billy relayed in 'The Silent Revolution of Truth'. Matthew |
   
Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1343 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Monday, May 03, 2021 - 05:00 pm: |
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I pay attention to my dreams when I awaken, mostly to see if it was a dream of importance or of relevance. Interesting these consciousness abilities/powers we have for our use. The world needs to be introduced. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Newinitiation Member
Post Number: 2542 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Friday, May 14, 2021 - 03:18 am: |
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Dreams are like water as they keep slipping me by and me being unable to grasp or hold onto it or was it a wetdream I was thinking of either way dreams are unforgettable because I can't remember any of it. Matt lee |
   
Newinitiation Member
Post Number: 2560 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2021 - 11:36 am: |
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Dreams are like going to the movies as you always have something or someone interrupting it. Matt lee |
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