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    Hugo Member Post Number: 965 Registered: 04-2015 |
Scott, You got me/us thinking and have to tell us now!  | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3235 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hugo, lIke I said, just thinking out loud ....Perhaps Michelle has some insight into this? .... | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 750 Registered: 02-2010 |
Well actually, it could be either Meriam or Anatol, when you think about it, and that is basically what I'm doing too, "thinking out loud".  MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 966 Registered: 04-2015 |
Scott and Msmichelle, How about showing me/us the Cabbalistic Calculations surrounding her name and birth date? I appreciate to see. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 751 Registered: 02-2010 |
Hugo, I was just taking a wild guess about Greta. I have no idea about using Cabbalistic Calculations. Sounds fascinating to me too. MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Lauste Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 06-2020 |
Speaking of Anatol & Meriam Petra, does anyone have a picture of either of them? I'd like to see what they look like. I can't seem to find them on the internet so far. Do not go Gentle into that Good Night. Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1319 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hugo, Msmichelle Kabbalistic corrections were discussed between BEAM and Semjase in CR's 127 and 128. (see below) Meriam Petra 452124 65122 Greta Thunberg 92512 11659529 CR 128 (German values) Semjase: 13. You are not alone in that, because curiosity also drives me to know what you have calculated. 14. Please give me your results. Billy: Happy to do so. Here, you see, I've let the following be written down here by Beetle: Numeric Values for the German Language By that, I mean, of course, the kabbalistic numeric values for the German language, where the values are valid exclusively for the vocabulary of this language, in connection with words of foreign languages, which have become pure German-speaking words, terms and values. In this list and calculation, the following values arose in my calculations for the individual letters: (A = 2) (B = 9) (C = 1) (D = 5) (E = 5) (F = 8) (G = 9) (H = 1) (I = 1) (J = 1) (K = 9) (L = 5) (M = 4) (N = 5) (O = 7) (P = 6) (Q = 8) (R = 2) (S = 3) (T = 1) (U = 6) (V = 6) (W = 6) (X = 6) (Y = 1) (Z = 5) CR 127 (Latin values) Semjase 19. (A = 2) (B = 9) (C = 1) (D = 5) (E = 5) (F = 8) (G = 9) (H = 1) (I = 1) (J = 1) (K = 8) (L = 5) (M = 4) (N = 5) (O = 7) (P = 6) (Q = 8) (R = 2) (S = 3) (T = 1) (U = 6) (V = 6) (W = 6) (X = 5) (Y = 1) (Z = 7) Of relevance to me and my names, which consist of two latin and one of either German or Latin; I get the following values. Heriberto Azahares Martin (Martin has the same values in Latin as it does in the German) 152195217 27212253 422115 Moderators, I hope this link is permitted for the discussion. Here is a pdf of Cheiro's book mentioned by BEAM in CR 127 I received from Scott. file:///Users/newuser/Desktop/BookofNumbers.pdf Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3239 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Eddie, That link doesn't work? Probably best to stick to FIGU links. Thanks Salome Scott | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 967 Registered: 04-2015 |
Eddieamartin, Thanks but what number does Greta's name break down too? I don't know how to do that. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1320 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Scott, yeah it appears so. Hugo, good question. Perhaps someone can tell us how these numbers are calculated. Not sure if we add them up until we get a single number and the single number tells us something? I will try and see if there is an explanation in Cheiro's book when I get a chance to read through it. Anyone interested, I can email forward a pdf of Cheiro's book. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Niko_sulonen Member Post Number: 75 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hello Eddie, I am interested. Please, if you could send it to my e-mail address niko.sulonen@outlook.com Thank you and Salome, Niko I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 752 Registered: 02-2010 |
Perhaps using BEAM's reincarnations as we know them may help to calculate this?? ex...Jeremiah, Mozart, Socrates, etc MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1321 Registered: 08-2010 |
Msmichelle, That's a great thought! It would be great for the Forum; To be able to read about and view the law of causality utilized as these Nokemion-personalities accomplished their ziel. I think the personalities Mozart and Felix Mendelssohn may be the easiest to study?? Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3336 Registered: 12-1999 |
Could Billy Meier’s spirit form lived a life as Buddha…? During Billy's conversation with Ptaah in CR 754, he made the following statement: “Siddharta emphasised this explicitly, which I still remember well – it is also included that a very special attention and mindfulness with regard to all values has to be paid in order to give satisfaction to the perception of responsibility, integrity as well as sustainability with regard to the necessary respect.” The words that struck me were “which I still remember well”...was this a reference to the conversation he had with Siddharta Gautama (Buddha) or could it have been a type of past life memory? Looking at sequence of births of the Nokodemion Spirit Form it is possible that the years do coincide with this possibility. Jeremiah was born February 9, 662 (BC) and died on February 3rd 580 (BC) Siddharta Gautama (Buddha) was born 563 (BC) and died 483 (BC) Socrates was born 469 (BC) and died 399 (BC) | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1022 Registered: 04-2015 |
Scott, or perhaps Sfath time traveled Billy to meet Buddha? | ||
Lauste Member Post Number: 29 Registered: 06-2020 |
It's also possible that Billy's recollection, in this instance, may relate to a remembering of a personal research on the subject of Buddha. In other words, when one looks into a subject, such as Buddha for example, they may come across quotes, or even quotes that are emphasized explicitly over and over again. I offer this as an alternative view point and don't necessarily stand by it given the little to no information on the topic. Do not go Gentle into that Good Night. Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3339 Registered: 12-1999 |
I think what piqued my interest is the level of knowledge "Buddha" seemed to possess which seemed to be in line with – as it is today, with the 'Spiritual (Creation-Energy) teaching' resp. 'Teaching of truth, Teaching of the energy of Creation, Teaching of life'. Additionally there seems to be similarities in which the teaching was falsified and distorted as were the teachings of the "other" prophets... | ||
Matcha Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2021 |
Hugo, To my recollection, you are right. Billy travelled back in time and met Buddha personally when he was with Sfath. It was one of his many time travels to learn various things and find various truths to assist his mission of spreading the teaching of truth, the teaching of Creation energy. Sorry, I don't recall the exact CR, but think it is one of the recent ones that cover Billy's meetings, talks, and travels with Sfath. Billy has also said that Buddha was one of some other prophets, not of the special Nokodemion lineage of prophets. The good news here is that other ordinary people can also become a prophet of sorts when they aspire to, reach for and discipline themselves toward the truth, albeit they still teach and hold to a few incorrect views or teachings. Chris Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1023 Registered: 04-2015 |
Matcha, I tried looking for that Contact Report but found nothing about Sfath travelled back in time with Billy to meet Buddha? I found some things including this in CR 709 - From book "The Meier case under the Lens" by Hesemann M "The highlight of the second phase was Billy's stay at the Ashoka Buddhist mission in Mehrauli near New Delhi/India, where he studied the Buddha's teachings with the now 111-year-old monk Dharmavara..." http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_709 Could it be that Billy's comment about remembrance was from studying Buddha's teachings? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3342 Registered: 12-1999 |
This statement from the Nokodemion Book, seems to imply Buddha was not of the Nokodemion lineage, but was considered to be a teacher and a knowledgeable one.: "Nokodemion coined such a meditation phrase in his time, which endured for millions of years and continued to be used throughout his lineage of prophets, and which even in modern times is still used in a somewhat garbled form, namely as (I entrust myself to universal consciousness) , or (I entrust myself to the law of universal consciousness) , as it was adopted and taught in a similar form by Siddharta Gautama Buddha." Additionally, here is a quote from the Questions and Answers topic area which suggests Buddha being a wise man, but did not have all the answers: Q-" Hi Billy, thinking about Gautama Buddha and how he discovered the truth without any ET contact, and looking at the spiritual development of us earth beings (except a few) now, and extrapolating this to Siddhartha Gautama's time 2500 years ago, it makes little sense that Gautama Buddha had a "jump" in consciousness in just one lifetime to a level of a prophet. Is it possible to make a huge leap in consciousness of several millennium ahead of the rest in just one lifetime?" A- "No, that’s not possible. Gautama Buddha discovered some truths, but he also figured out things which were/are not in line with reality." Also from the OM 20:95 "Prophets were given to the generations of men and the nations of Earth since times of old, as also were sent Henoch and Elja, Jesaja and Jeremja, and Jmmanuel and Mohammed in direct succession and constant reincarnation, in addition to Johannes and Eljas and Hjob and all the army of the other righteous and just, as they were Buddha, Zoroaster and Babatschi and others also." (Message edited by scott on June 29, 2021) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1703 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Hugo – Scott I think the answer is found in CR 754. 1. Go to The Future Of Mankind – A Billy Meier Wiki – Contact Report 754 2. In the top right corner of the URL bar press the … (3 dots) 3. On the list that unfolds, scroll down an press ¨Find on Page ¨4. In the pop-up textbox type ¨Heralds¨ You will find these sections: Ptaah: Sorry, Eduard, all right. It is also written in the annals that you and my father together in your past times have visited and talked to those heralds several times and gained insights that are unknown to me. As far as earthly religions and sects are concerned, I read in my father's annals that you must have a more extensive knowledge of these facts than I know, because you have never spoken to me about them. And 3 paragraphs further down Ptaah: : You have heard from the mouth of the heralds themselves what the truth and their stories were, and I would like to know and hear from you. From their teaching – which, as my father noted, was the same for all of them – shameful, malicious and irresponsible falsifications were made, which I know very well myself, what world religions are made of, but I do not know any closer connections. But I would like to know more about it, because I have not really dealt with this subject, therefore I do have some knowledge about it, but not everything that interests me further and only you can explain it to me, because you have spoken with the heralds yourself. I am particularly interested in the crucial aspect of Buddhism, of which my father wrote that it had been falsified in the same way as the teachings of the preachers, from which Christianity, Islam and Judaism emerged through enormous falsifications. I think these statements from Ptaah make it very clear that Ptaah asks Billy because he has met the Buddha. Bill | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3344 Registered: 12-1999 |
Thanks to Eddie, I think I found my answer in the OM: Canon 24:84 Explanation: States that before the last prophet / herald of the new times from the direct true prophet line of the Nokodemion the prophet Mohammed as well as the prophet Jmmanuel preceded, as also the prophet Buddha, who however did not come from the Nokodemion prophet line, but was only a purely earthly prophet and teacher without relation to the Nokodemion line. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1024 Registered: 04-2015 |
Tat_tvam_asi, Thanks for finding that! So it seems Billy met Buddha. |
