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Schantz
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have to say that video may be the best FIGU related video I have ever seen.

Very well done!

I'm glad Piyali you weren't supposed post that link and created all this commotion, which I then decided to investigate and watch.

Many thanks to all who contributed to this production.
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Piyali
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Lernmore12. You are most welcome. Thank you for taking the time to watch this informative video in Creation.

Salome Bob, thank you for the flowers and thank you for sharing the excerpts and of course it makes sense to me.

To answer your question, I have not actually seen the terms Billy added to the text which I read anywhere else until recently. It is only when I was given the text to read/narrate for the video, that I first saw these terms and did some research and found out about the ex nihilo (Latin for "creation from nothing").
As for the terms, "My" and "Myjota", it is my understanding from the video text that it is something unfathomable tiny. I was not sure so I asked Harald who confirmed for me and I have also asked him for more information if he knows, since this is a text he worked on with Billy. As soon as I have more, I will certainly share here. I hope we will know more about it soon.
Salome
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Scott
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Post Number: 3367
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Either way, the link was still posted....:-)...
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Hugo
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Post Number: 1029
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was very good! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it! Thanks Piyali!
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Matcha
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 02-2021
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A beautiful video, Piyali. Thank you.
Chris

Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I must agree with everyone else, the video, “THE CREATION: HOW IT ALL BEGAN” was outstanding. If Ptaah thought that some of the explanations that were used in the video were extremely interesting, very valuable and opened perspectives previously unknown to the Plejaren. I have no words that could come close, I will have to watch this video a few more times.

Thank you Piyali, Harald Schossmann and all who had a hand in creating this video.

Salome
Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you, Bianca - well done!
Bill
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,

I enjoyed the video that much I watched it twice. Piyali and others who created that video had real talent. If I didn't know I would have thought it was professionally created.
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Piyali
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Post Number: 176
Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2021 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome and thank you everyone, who took the time to watch and listen to the video on Creation. I am only the narrator of this video. All the real hard work has been done by Harald who wrote the German text with Billy's guidance and help as well as that of Marianne who proofread the English translation also done by Harald. It is 100% FIGU approved. 
This response from Harald is for Bob and for anyone who would like to know. I asked Harald about the terms added by Billy in the video and he came back to me with this response:
"So I looked up My or Myjota and it is a description of a most tiny size. The book ”Diversikum” by Guido Moosbrugger, which many others contributed to including Billy & Ptaah explains that a My (= greek letter) μ Mikro = 1 billionth = 10 to the power of –6 which would correspond to 0,000 001. You can find this information in the Diversikum on page 12. And  “Jota” also refers to the tiniest bit. I’ve actually used this myself in a FIGU article before and Billy uses this expression all the time. So by combining these two words you basically enhance the unimaginable  miniscule tinyness of something. (not sure if miniscule and tinyness are words I just made them so)I hope this explanation was satisfactory, for further details please consult the “Diversikum” or inquire in Switzerland."
There you have it. I agree, any further questions can be directed at FIGU or anyone else who knows for sure. I too am learning so much through this process. 
Salome
Piyali
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Scott
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Post Number: 3370
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Posted on Friday, August 06, 2021 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Piyali,

After looking at the video I noticed at 1:23 a list of "Commandments of the Creation" . Would you know where this list originated? I thought it might be the OM, but now I am not sure.

Thank you
Salome
Scott
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Piyali
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2021 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Scott, I will ask Harald again. I thought that image was created by Harald for the video and I too wondered about it...I will ask him and get back to you.
Salome
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Scott
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Post Number: 3371
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Posted on Friday, August 06, 2021 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very Good Thank you Piyali
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 04-2020
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2021 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Piyali, thank you so much for following up on that!
I have the book ”Diversikum” by Guido Moosbrugger and below is a scan of page 12 that you referenced in your post #176; and behold, there it is, with a penciled arrow pointing to it! In English, though, that is the Greek letter 'Mu' and not 'My'. Interesting still, that is not even the smallest mass size in his chart.

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Above is the very beautiful Creational Teaching Symbol for Origin of BEING and All Existence from Billy's book, "Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur- Ursprung aller Existenz".

Regards
Bob
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Piyali
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Post Number: 178
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Bob,

What a gorgeous symbol indeed. Love the colors!

From reading all your posts Bob, which I do read quietly, it appears that you know German pretty well and so you will know I am sure that the German 'Y' is pronounced like a 'U'. hence at Billy's request, all the original terms with it's German spellings in the text were kept.

So perhaps 'My' with the 'Y' in the chart you have shared here, is 'Yocto'? Hmmm, yet another question to ask. Because Harald described it as the 'tiniest' size...I will ask. Two questions to ask now, including one from Scott.

Thank you again for sharing with us.
Salome
Piyali
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Piyali
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Post Number: 179
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome dear Scott, Harald wrote back saying that, the list of commandments of creation is of course but a small sample and can be found on page 252 of the book “Lehrschrift” in there they have listed 50 Commandments wich are to be seen as recommendations.
Salome
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Piyali
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Post Number: 180
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Bob - here is what my friend Harald wrote back:

"As for the greek letter Mu or My I have tried to write it in such a way that it would be easy for you to say. Actually in German we say “Mü“ but you don’t have that letter in English but you have read it correctly in the lesson. Note that I’m not an expert on how to write Greek letters in English and not knowing these facts I stuck to the German original as Billy wrote it. I was never referring to Yocto. For further details please inquire in Switzerland I’m not a core group member, they obviously know a lot more about this than I do."
Salome
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fantastic work Piyali and Harold and others I've failed mention.
You guys have created the right and the only school where it teaches the final destination truth, the school of Creation energy and life.
Well done everyone!

Now how about a video on stupidity as defined by Billy and the plejaren vs the normal mainstream definition of stupidity and why there is definitely a distinction between material intellect vs spiritual intellect so that people new to this can feel for themselves and understand why Billy and the plejaren call the vast majority of us earthling stupid.

Matt lee
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Scott
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Post Number: 3372
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank You Piyali,

I do have the book and I also know of a translation as well.

Salome
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Piyali
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Post Number: 181
Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome dear Scott, you wrote that you know of a translation? Is someone translating this book officially? If yes that is fantastic! I can stop unofficially translating it for myself and for Patrick of FIGU-Interest Online group. I have the book too. It's a great book so far as I have read while translating it. Let us know.
Salome
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Scott
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Post Number: 3373
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patrick McKnight has already translated it, but perhaps you are working on corrections? His translation has not been published of course...this is what I was referring to...

Salome
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 136
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Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2021 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you very much, Piyali and Harald Schossman for those clarifications. It all makes sense to me now.

From Wikipedia: "Mu or my is the 12th letter of the Greek alphabet. In Ancient Greek, the name of the letter was written uü and pronounced [my]. In Modern Greek, the letter is spelled ui and pronounced [mi]". (Please note that I was unable to enter the actual Greek character letter for 'mu' and certain punctuation into this post, so refer to the Wikipedia article for preciseness.)

And "jolta" is actually the German word for Iota (iota) the ninth letter of the Greek alphabet. The term iota is often used to convey any very small amount. The expression "not one iota" even appears in the Bible (Matthew 5:18): "For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

So the combination of the two words to create Myjolta is actually the combination of two Greek letters, and gives me more reason to believe that Billy was not referring to a precise value of one millionth, or 10 to the minus 6, which appears in Guido's book, DIVERSIKUM, but more along the line of how the Greek letter 'Mu' is used in the scientific and mathematical community as part of equations to represent an unknown or variable value; and in this case, an "unknown" unit of 'very smallness' or jolta. A measurable set that is at present, not known. For truly, Billy nor anyone else, can possibly have any way of knowing this value.
Excerpts from Contact 353:

Billy:
Then I'd like to make a few remarks here to help you understand the issues Guido and I have been discussing for years for his new book. Basically it is about all forms of creation as well as the levels of gross matter and spirit energies. Several new terms have come to light, coming both from your scientists and from me. At the same time, however, the language came to the Absolute Absolutum and also the Absolute Nothing, the non-space etc. etc.<snip> In every Absolute Nothing, however, so in all Nothing-forms of every Absolute-form, like in the Absolute Absolutum, Original-Absolutum, Central-Absolutum, Creation-Absolutum, Super-Absolutum, SOHAR-Absolutum and BEING-Absolutum, there is no iota (Jota is used in original German) of material substance resp. matter whatsoever, which is why it is called 'Absolute Nothing'.<snip>

Billy: Excitation energy probably stands for the superfine and superpure spirit energy, right? The term 'spirit' actually originally also means 'primal excitation' in the sense of 'primal energy', but over time the term has lost its actual meaning and has been wrongly and out of a lack of understanding of the thinking consciousness of man as well as his intellect and his power of reasoning, been transformed.<snip>

Billy: This much I have found out in the meantime, and that these excitation impulses have developed out of themselves into the excitation energy and generated an impulse, from which the BEING-Absolutum with the primal-motion energy then created its own existence out of itself. The endless duration that prevailed in the Absolute Nothing, from which the BEING-Absolutum emerged, condensed itself, so to speak, into an immaterial or immaterial ursubstantial excitation impulse, from which the entire massless kinetic or excitation energy arose, which developed a creation impulse, from which the BEING-Absolute created itself. But I did not get further. How the process of the creation of the endless duration took place is a mystery to me that I cannot fathom. Perhaps your scientists know something about it?

Ptaah:
16. You are joking, my friend, because all their research and findings in this regard are based on your records and courses that you have made and are still making for us.

Source: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_353

Regards
Bob
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 137
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Posted on Monday, August 09, 2021 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apologies, I just noticed that I misspelled 'jota' as 'jolta' in a couple of places in my previous post 136. I was obviously having too much fun with the word. I only noticed it this morning as I took a sip of a warm cup of myjota and meditated on the idea that we all, all of this, came from the same tiny myjota. That is quite a jolt.

Regards
Bob
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Piyali
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Post Number: 182
Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Bob, please forgive me for the late response. I have read your post #136 with great interest as I do all your posts. I appreciate your explanation with regard to the Greek letters and the conclusion you have drawn as a result with regard to Myjota. It does make sense. Thank you so much for sharing.
Salome
Piyali

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