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Author Message Norms Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2019 Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 - 08:37 pm:        @Phi_spiral, You're quite correct in that this experience came about as there was a need to resolve an issue. The experience took place at around age three. Was already having astral-travel experiences each night and in fact was actually looking forward to it, expecting it, and initiating it. In this group astral-travel is referred to as sending-out feelers. After the experience, immediately started looking for solutions, day after day, month after month, year after year. Sadly, have not been able to overcome the issue. It;s playing-out exactly as evident in the experience. Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2429 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 - 09:53 pm:        Hi Bob Would it be a fair statement to say then that the poltergeist effect, dark shadow figures, voices, apparitions, sudden spike in EMP (electromagnetic pulse), things moving on its own, bodily scratches, weird noises, sound of footsteps, doors slamming on its own, ghostly figures of transparent adults and children peeking behind corners, small orbs flying around like insect, children levitating and being suddenly yanked here and there, etc are the result of fluidal forces left behind from the deceased but that certain live individuals themselves are creating these effects through their own subconscious via the mental block? Matt lee Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 - 04:49 pm:        Hi Matt There's a bit more to it than that. Here are just a few definition examples from the book, Rund um die fluidalenergie that might illustrate better: Psychotelekinetics occurs when, in an unconscious way, from the mental block, through damaged psychological moments over long distances, old, deposited mental fluidic forces manifest themselves. Telekinesis refers to such movements, if it is a significant distance (but which a currently living person is currently consciously moving material objects through solely his/her mental powers. In both cases, objects of all kinds can be moved by the mental powers of the mental block. Thoughts, feelings, psyche and consciousness form this block. The psyche is the factor that determines when the action is unconscious. If the process happens consciously, then the thoughts and consciousness determine the whole process. Psychopyrokinetics is the condition when an unconscious influence of the human psyche and the mental forces on the world of material objects takes place without the interposition of another cause, whereby fire is triggered by unconscious thoughts or wishes. If the process is conscious, then the term pyrokinetics applies. Psychomaterialkinesis is based on the effect when the human psyche and the whole mental block forces in an unconscious way produce effects on the world of material objects in such a way that the materials become damaged or bend, etc. Levitation means the subjective, tangible lifting of the body's gravity and a floating of the body in space without aids, and that is solely through the mental fluidic forces of the mental block. Material kinesis is the process when material things are consciously and deliberately changed in their molecular structure through the mental block and the resulting mental fluidic forces, causing them to deform or break, etc. Teleplasty is the conscious creation of shadowy figures and projections through the forces of the mental block. If, however, the human psyche is the actual trigger of the phenomena, in cooperation with the entire mental powers, then the projections are brought about completely unconsciously. In this case it is an appearance in the form of psychoteleplasty. Teleportation means that a body resp. an object solely consciously through the forces of the mental block resp. thoughts, feelings, psyche and consciousness can be moved from one place to another in an invisible process - similar to beaming. If the whole thing happens in a completely unconscious way, then the whole thing is controlled and triggered by the state of the psyche, the term psychoteleportation then applies. So as you can see in these few examples, most of these phenomenon can be activated either consciously or unconsciously; and when triggered subconsciously, the prefix "psycho-" is used before the term. However; with that said, the consciousness powers of earth beings has not yet evolved enough to perform them consciously (with a few exceptions, of course). Regards Bob Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2430 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Friday, October 23, 2020 - 05:05 am:        Thanks for the source Bob Urban exploration of abandoned and haunted buildings and paranormal investigation into these sites seems to have taken on a trend of its own lately. Obviously as per Billy such a thing as ghosts don't exist and whatever the so called paranormal phenomenon that people experience can be attributed to the fluidal forces left behind by the deceased. Even poltergeist effect can be attributed to little children who create this phenomenon and not because of any supposed hauntings. There are a lot of rubbish, ignorance and CGI associated with this subject matter so viewers may have to exercise their strictest of discernment when dealing with it. Matt lee Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 - 10:08 pm:        Matthew from his Post 186 in the section The Mission » The Pleiadians/Plejarens and the Federation » Contact Notes: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8872.html?1619658301 "If events from the past can leave their biological mark on incarnations (bodies) in the future, and some things, such as Judas' scrolls going missing can appear to still be "sore points", then some things must follow us through the ages from previous incarnations? Is it that or the imaginary projections of others converging on ourselves or something. I thought experiences from previous incarnations don't follow us and that each new incarnation and personality is a "clean sheet" as it were? How do birthmarks fit into that?" Hello Matthew Those are very intriguing dreams of yours. Yes, it’s true we are born with different ‘personalities’ but we are still connected to our past incarnations through the fluidal energies (or fluidic forces) stored in the skeletal remains of previous physical bodies. They have many important functions, one of which is to allow the new personality; unconscious, conscious or subconscious reconnections to previous lives, or simply to create memory connections to the past of the present life. This process can have many reasons but usually it is to resolve problems that were unresolved in past lives. The connection can be triggered any number of ways - through a conversation, through pictures, through objects, through a building, a person, a thought, a feeling, an animal, a plant, etc. As soon as the problem or the memory is resolved, the person ends the respective re-connection.(page 32)* These energies are very important to maintaining the progression of our development and is why Billy is so adamant against cremation upon death. The Plejaren use a special technology where the deceased body is burnt by a cold process with the skeleton remaining intact and no fluidal energy is damaged. Only the carnal body is removed by the cold combustion, (Billy makes the comparison to dry ice. By this process any of the mental fluidal energy contained in the body, then retreat into the skeleton which is then specially preserved and buried. (page 223)* Although there is no discussion of birth marks in the book; there is, however, an interesting explanation of how, on rare occasions, some people having unusually strong mental fluidic forces, and a very heavily burdened psyche, can manifest the so-called ‘wounds of Christ’ also known as stigmata or stigmatization. I also find it intriguing that there are cooking references in your dreams as well as the camaraderie since Billy has had many gatherings with friends at the kitchen table to discuss and explain the teachings. Regards Bob *All page references are from the book, Rund um die Fluidalenergie resp. Fluidalkräfte und andere Dinge by billy Meier Matthew Member Post Number: 188 Registered: 03-2011 Posted on Friday, April 30, 2021 - 10:42 am:        Hey Bob, Appreciate you checking 'Rund um die Fluidalenergie resp. Fluidalkräfte und andere Dinge', thanks. Yes, it must be that fluidal forces preserved in human bones can have an influence on some aspect of foetal growth within future incarnations, even if it's only skin deep physically speaking and in addition to the consciousness block aspects. That would explain why the Egyptians were so keen on mummification. Billy's birthmark, as mentioned in CR 711, does suggest that Jmmanuel's bones are preserved and located somewhere, perhaps on Earth or in the possession of the Plejaren. That's assuming bones are involved at all of course. This leads me to wonder about fluidal force's role in the Theory of Evolution. Could it be the missing link that explains rapid species evolution? I know that Billy has referred to the influence of ice ages, e.g., the Mammoth evolving into the Elephant, etc., but maybe it's not the ice per se that directly triggers these evolutionary giant steps, as logic dictates that ice preserves matter, not change it. No, maybe the evolutionary cause of these is the hibernation sleep state of the animal, their consciousness state whereby it connects more effectively and strongly to these preserved energies, which ice would aid in terms of preserving the bones more effectively than death on land with its fires, killings (by predators) and erosion by wind and water, etc. As we know, there were thousands upon thousands of crucifixions (Go humanity!) committed by the Roman Empire and even up to today by the likes of some Islamist groups. The wounds of Christ is usually associated with a bleeding from the palms. I did check some years ago for associations with birthmarks but didn't find any. Yes, I'm sure I saw some photographs and read info before 2009 that indicated the importance of SSSC's kitchen, so I can't claim anything intuited there. Matthew Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 697 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2021 - 06:25 pm:        Gday Mathew I think its the rapid struggle during ice ages that causes rapid evolution, also i noticed in a recent contact note about covid mutations explains A LOT about fine matter element has a huge effect. I have been pondering it, maybe more soon, i need to find the cnote... Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. Kenneth Member Post Number: 1320 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 - 12:25 pm:        In Billy's book, "About the Fluidal-Energy..." page 212. The question, "So it goes:..." Within Billy's answer, part of the discussion states, ..."On the other hand: Here in the Center, e.g. nobody needed to be particularly awake, sensitive, sensible or liable to here noises of manifesting mental fluidal powers - they were simply there…//…formerly stored mental powers are present...". “In the Center, it must however also be said that in the attic, there were also sounds of footsteps and objects thrown around which were not based on formerly stored mental fluidal-powers, but rather on the fact that a young and psychically-disturbed Center inhabitant was the originator of the phenomena.” For whatever reason this came to mind. From retrospect, when the Center location was first determined by the Plejaren, it was also noted that in the distant past there a group of extraterrestrials of small physique living on the hillside near a lake, natural events caused the landmass to collapse onto the ET village, killing all inhabitants and filling in the lake. This is where the SSSC is located today. We know that when extraterrestrials die on Earth, their spiritform must reincarnate on Earth at some time in the future. These ETs found a home away from home, but nonetheless, all were involved in a violent death. According to Billy’s information, activation of fluidal-energy-powers can happen when a living human being is born or resides in the general area of their fluidal energy from a previous life and triggers or activates the manifestations unknowingly. So, universally speaking, these fluidal disturbances could have been the ETs that died on the property where the SSSC is now located. Note: Could not find the Contact Report that mentions the ETs that previously lived and died at the SSSC site location. Kenneth Niko_sulonen Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 06:05 am:        Kenneth, I have also witnessed these sounds of footsteps during my visit to the Center while staying in the Gasthaus Freihoff. It was an otherwise silent night, only for that silence to be broken by sudden sounds of footsteps and shuffling coming from the attic. It was strange because the owner told me there were no other guests staying at the hotel, and they themselves lived elsewhere. I didn't think too much of it at the time and fell asleep quite soon afterwards. But now what is intriguing is the part where it says: "...but rather on the fact that a young and psychically-disturbed Center inhabitant was the originator of the phenomena.” My visit to the Center wasn't an easy one, because I experienced some "visions". One while awake and two were quite powerful dreams, one of which has come to fruition in reality as far as I experience it. One of the visions was very disturbing for me and I had real trouble trying to control my feelings and emotions about it, which unfortunately put a damper on my visit and left a cloud hanging over me. Does it say in the book when did this event happen that you have quoted? When was this book originally printed? Salome, Niko Kenneth Member Post Number: 1321 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 08:14 am:        Hi Niko, Your experience fits right into some of the happenings listed in the book. There is a date at the beginning of the chapter of 3rd February 1991. It says that the book of, “Rund um die Fluidalenergie…//…About the Fluidal-Energy…” was originally printed in German on in 2007, then translated into English in 2021. Salome Kenneth Niko_sulonen Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2021 - 12:06 am:        Kenneth, Thank you for looking it up for me. I went and ordered the book for myself along with a few others. Thanks! :-) Salome, Niko Kenneth Member Post Number: 1336 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2021 - 03:46 pm:        When reading Billy’s book, “About the Fluidal-Energy resp. Fluidal-Powers and Other Things”, events came to mind regarding friends and relatives visiting deceased relatives at a local cemetery. Those that visited an actual grave site expressed what they thought was a connection to the departed that they could not explain. To the contrary, those visiting their deceased loved ones that were cremated felt an inner obligation to be there but did not have the same experienced connection as the earthly burial of departed ones. I know that there are many other factors involved, i.e., memories, sadness, anger, disbelief, despair, guilt, and loneliness, etc. But for those sensitive enough, it appears that those visiting a direct burial in Earth have a different experience. Never thought too much about it until I read this section on page 244 of “About the Fluidal-Energy resp…”. “Just as in the bog soil, the loamy soil also preserves a corpse. The longer the body remains preserved, the longer the mental-fluidal swinging wave as well as its energy and power is preserved in the body. It is also the case that the soil likewise absorbs the swinging waves, but only just in the area of the direct body contact…//…Also, it is given that the finer the material is, the faster the fluidal-powers retain the mental swinging waves with their energies, respectively, the bones retain the mental swinging waves with their energies and powers for the longest time…”. Several factors are going on here. Those that are sensitive to these swinging waves may sense a different fluidal strength when the departed is buried in a casket as compared to a direct burial in the Earth. It is my understanding that the Fluidal-Energy from those that have been cremated cannot experience that Fluidal-Energy from the person that has passed if there are no personal items of the deceased nearby. It appears the animals are very sensitive to these energies as well. Kenneth Friteeucman New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2021 Posted on Monday, September 06, 2021 - 10:58 pm:        I apologize in advance for my Plebeian and Unsophisticated understanding of such matters. “About the Fluidal-Energy,” Per page 106: “The fluidal-powers/fluidal bodies of the spirit emanate from the spirit-consciousness as well as from the filagree web of the Spirit body. They store themselves and radiate as a fine-spiritual and therefore finest-material power form and body form, and indeed in pure spiritual realms and levels.The spiritual fluidal-power and the spiritual fluidal-body are in their value-form, radiation and effect natured according to the evolution of the spirit and in every single case neutral-positive and therefore completely equalized. Spiritual fluidal-powers, respectively, fluidal-bodies never have a direct effect within the realm of the coarse-material world, only indirectly through a connection to the material- consciousness. This spiritual fluidal-body is also called the spirit Consciousness body, in which case naturally, as in every other case as well, the fluidal-powers are in embedded in the fluidal-body. Like the spirit itself, the spirit-fluidal-body with its fluidal-powers is space-,time and dimensionless.” Makes me think tachyons...Faster -than -light particles. Then I thought; what about QGP, Quark-Gluon Plasma? That seems more likely, right? Is radiating and emanating, high- vibrational, swinging wave, Electromagnetic; what now? You know, like the Science of it... What exactly is the Creation- Energy- Force? I do know it’s Sacred and requires protecting. And most people walk around not knowing that we have one, Or they wouldn’t be so cruel and heartless to each other. Some of us are in the process of Remembering... The definition of Separation is: Ignorance and Confusion on how to properly follow Creational-Natural laws, rules, guidelines and regulations. Ok, got where is located. Now it may be some sort of dense little piece-part of Absolutem that puts off “light” as in a byproduct and properties of the Creational Energy. some sort of swinging-wave electromagnetic “light.” That’s spaceless, timeless, dimensionless... The heart of the Gemut? As far as the spirit being completely Equalized and that makes me think of LTE; Local Thermodynamic Equilibrium... I am just spit-balling here...And I don’t claim to even understand these concepts, just looking for confirmation on what I suspect but could really be an Enigma wrapped in a Delusional conundrum. Billy then goes on to say that if you train your Consciousness to Vibrate more in tune with your spirit, you can travel to the past and future. Right now, Content in the Present, thank you very much! But soon, maybe? I can already taste the future. Now, reeling-in-back in, and the actualizing it. Perhaps that will suffice as my first post... pulling out my Rainbow stripes on the inside of my vest, letting you have a peek of my insignia, With all the secret Billy-handshakes and all that pearlescent stuff.. I kid. 😃 -F. e. Kenneth Member Post Number: 1340 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 - 07:57 pm:        Direct burial in the Earth can average between $5,000 to $10,000 more than cremation but the cost varies all over the board when viewing or memorial services are included. Cremation has replaced traditional burials in popularity according to statistics from the National Funeral Directors Association, or NFDA, by more than half. In 20 years, the association predicts, nearly 80% of people will opt to have our bodies turned into ash mainly due to cost. For the most part, cremation in the U.S. started in 1876 when Dr. Julius LeMoyne built the first crematory in Washington, Pennsylvania. According to several sources, today 40% to 50% of people plan on being cremated. WHAT PEOPLE DO WITH HUMAN ASH REMAINS IS CRAZY: Spread the ashes someplace sentimental or into various bodies of water, oceans, lakes, rivers, etc. Memorial tattoos, tattoo artists mix some ashes with ink and create lasting memorials on a loved one's skin. Ashes mixed with paint and made into a portrait of the deceased. Jewelry, human ashes put into small containers that are worn around the neck or made into diamonds. Glass art memorial with human ashes encased in the glass. Some people are having their ashes put into stuffed, huggable animals. Play the cremated remains with music? Human ashes made into a record the family can enjoy that records a personal message of the deceased’s last will & testament on the human remains soundtrack. Or a squishy that one press’s your ashes to hear your pops & crackles of the cremains. OK, enough of all that nonsense… The whole point of this blog is to point out that more than 50% of people will not be able to access their fluidal-energy-powers in the future. Without the Teaching, people have no clue as to the importance of the physical body remains associated with burial in the Earth or vaults for preservation of bones and associated fluidal-powers. Most funeral businesses in the United States and other developed countries perform direct burial where the casket is placed into a lined concrete vault, thus preserving the deceased fluidal-energies and fluidal-powers for thousands of years or longer. This seems to show that those associated with the Teaching may be more advanced during embodiment in many areas than those people that were cremated. Kenneth Hugo Member Post Number: 1044 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 - 10:44 pm:        Kenneth, The problem with buying an expensive burial land/grave is after so many years when they think most of the relatives are also dead they try to get rid of the graves and sell the land. It makes me think about how Mozart got his closest friend to switch bodies and bury him in a secret place. Matcha Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2021 Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 - 11:25 pm:        You are quite right, Hugo. I had my mother buried in Oz 15 years ago, thinking I would share the grave when my time comes, only to find out recently that the gravesite is only mine for 25 years, after which time it is sold to someone else. What happens to my mother's remains in 10 years I do not know. Respect for the dead now has a use by date. Chris Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures. Schantz Member Post Number: 287 Registered: 03-2007 Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 - 11:42 pm:        I have to disagree with Kenneth on this one. I think we maybe have at this point in time roughly 25,000 humans on the entire planet that study, read, follow and try to implement the teaching into their daily lives. The correlation of buried deaths to people associated with the teaching seems like wishful thinking, and not anything close to reality of the buried dead versus the cremated dead, connected to the teaching, in my opinion. Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 715 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 07:17 am:        Gday Kenneth its probably better that they are cremated as the fluidal energy is religious etc... Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 716 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 07:20 am:        Also, i plan to be burried in a small town cemetary in the desert eh eh or start a figu cemetary Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. Scott Moderator Post Number: 3411 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 07:45 am:        A FIGU Cemetery, Now that is an idea I have never heard before ..... Kenneth Member Post Number: 1343 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 10:59 am:        Ilovebilly, A FIGU Cemetery, what a novel ideal. The Plejaren prepare their folks that pass to preserve their mental Fluidalenergies resp. Fluidalforces. We only need an arrangement from one of the Federation members to coordinate a Beamship for transport... Kenneth Kenneth Member Post Number: 1344 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 11:06 am:        "...better that they are cremated as the fluidal energy is religious etc..." Yes, that was kind of my intended point. However, have hot read where Fluidal Energies can maintain a religions connection. But when you think about it... Kenneth Hugo Member Post Number: 1046 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 03:41 pm:        Matcha, About 10 years ago my mother bought 6 grave sites in the Catholic section at one of the largest Melbourne cemetery. She bought these for the whole family and they cost her about $50k back then, but now I hear they cost double that. Anyway I was there when she bought them and I asked management if the bodies could ever be allowed to be removed in the distant future to sell/reuse the land. I was told they would never be allowed to do that but I didn't believe it because the cemetery sits in the middle of Eastern Melbourne. I already planned back then to buy myself a grave site at the country town where I own a rural retreat just like Ilovebilly suggested. I noticed there are graves there that are nearly 200 years old.

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