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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1446
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2022 - 11:51 am: | 
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Re; The Chinese peoples
Not sure why, but I have been under some impression that an Emperor, enlivened by Nokodemion, had appeared to them, having landed and emerged from a "fire breathing dragon" beamship.
This Emperor taught them many things, which included acupuncture and other things such as "The Way" (Creation-Energy teaching).
Hopefully someone can clarify this?
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Friteeucman
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 09-2021
| | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2022 - 02:31 pm: |
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Perhaps the Multinational- Peace- Corps could be consolidated to include info on Cr 150 and 238 and others.
Lyman t Urkke,
F.e.
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Felinity
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 09-2019
| | Posted on Monday, January 31, 2022 - 09:14 am: |
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Hi! I haven't been on the FIGU Forum in over a year. How is everyone doing? |
Friteeucman
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 09-2021
| | Posted on Monday, January 31, 2022 - 06:35 pm: |
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Greetings Finitity.
You don’t know me, but I’m doing peachy.
Another day in Paradise...
Lyman t Urkke,
‘A ‘ole puka...
F.e.
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1434
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2022 - 02:09 pm: |
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An interesting discourse, Copy and paste,
“The origins of Russia - Summary on a Map”.
Salome
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1949
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 - 03:27 am: |
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Why are we here – now?
We certainly live through very worrying, unsteady times. There is a war that everyone wants to stop but only if it is a win.
There is the threat that it may escalate into a nuclear holocaust (1).
There are billions of people worldwide at risk of severe food shortages and / or losing their jobs due to power cuts / supply chain interruptions. There is the genuine prospect of a complete economic meltdown.
But who sees that both – the Russian and Ukrainian people –in the depths of their hearts – just want to live and work in peace ...
There is also a deadly pandemic spreading unabatedly and not many politicians seem to care. Even the WHO’s belated-desperate call for mask mandates falls on deaf ears: It is wealth not health that rules this world.
How and with what consciousness should we respond to the unfolding chaos that we witness?
“Why are we here - now”?
Semjase to Billy in CR191:53 – passage from CR 191:49 - 78
“… But in order to be able to change everything, it was also necessary that everyone would change themselves into the thinking of the Earth-humans …”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_191
What is the meaning of this passage?
Should we live with the awareness to be – temporarily - a part of this “make belief” world - with all its ups and downs (2) – but still with an understanding of the true reality of life?
Should we employ compassion (3)?
Should we observe with a peaceful mind (4)?
What is your thought?
(1)
Princeton University in 2019: 91.5 million dead in the first few hours
(2)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/2200/1255.html#POST92685
(3)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80121
(4)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/16126.html#POST85368
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Matcha
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 02-2021
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 - 09:53 am: |
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Hello Bill, good to be in touch again. Here is my response to your questions in post #1949 (the year of my birth, incidentally). Just a few sharings for your consideration:
[Quoting) Semjase to Billy in CR191:53 – passage from CR 191:49 - 78
"… But in order to be able to change everything, it was also necessary that everyone would change themselves into the thinking of the Earth-humans …" [Quoting ends]
What is the meaning of this passage? 1) Should we live with the awareness to be – temporarily - a part of this "make belief" world - with all its ups and downs
ANSWER 1) interpret this to mean those ancients should be disallowed access to the storage banks which would otherwise enable access to all the details of their past lives. Given such access, they would pick up those destructive energies subconsciously or through impulses and use them to the continued detriment and destruction of any renascent civilization. They would likely create all the same disasters again. So, for humanity's sake, there would have to be a "forgetting" more extensive than the usual forgetting of past lives, which are accessible via the storage banks.
In as much as it relates to Princeton's findings of 91.5 million dead. These are not times to worry but to attempt to steer the world in the right direction, away from destruction. We can do this online with posts, by talking with friends and contacts where and when we can, pointing out, as Billy mentions, the facts of the insanity and errant path, and living as an example of peace and sanity, and controlling emotions when emotions start flying from any source. There are voices outside the forum or CRs that can help. After all, most are just not ready for the CRs. Just one example, a recent and sober video of Chomsky, regarded by many as the top intellectual and independent and critical thinker on the planet, is one that many will be open to viewing and considering (Search on YouTube: Chomsky: WAR in Ukraine is "AN INSANE EXPERIMENT" by the USA! (05/2022)).
2) –but still with an understanding of the true reality of life?
If unaware of it, one should always strive for a proper understanding of the true reality of life. We forever endeavour to understand the true situations that crop up in our life. They like us, endure forever.
Link 2) This is not a "make-belief" world. It is very real. It is just so many people, including leaders, of course, live and push lies knowingly or unknowingly making it hard to believe they are real in their intent, and they too often may have no intent; everything just becomes a job to be done. All we can do is pull them up on it and live the good exemplary life.
3) Should we employ compassion?
ANSWER 3) Checking the shorter OED, Compassion is usually a feeling or an identification with another's sorrow or grief. When "employed", compassion usually becomes an allowance, grant or donation. There is also "compassion fatigue", which comes from continual demands which result in requests becoming too much to handle. We should help where and when we can with others' problems and sufferings, but no one is without them, and we cannot help with everyone's problems. We should try where and when we can, but it can be difficult to know sometimes whether the suffering is real or imitated for lazy gains. One should not allow oneself to be taken advantage of. Compassion is a part of the feeling of LOVE. We should always have this feeling in our hearts, but the individual alone can decide where and when they can or “should” use or “employ” it.
Link 3) Probably everyone on "prison planet earth" has had their roles in this. We are also pretty close on a cosmic scale to getting out of it: It helps to always keep the positive view forward.
"Is man able to purify his mind by extending compassion to his fellow man?"
It is more the other way round. With a pure mind, one is able to properly extend compassion. The one who extends compassion already has a pure mind. This is why true spiritual leaders, the ones with our minds, are those who truly extend compassion because they are then open enough to feel it. Meeting a suffering person shows us that "There but for fortune go you or I" as the song so beautifully and truthfully sang. Throughout our many lives, we have all "suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortunes" and all manner of suffering, so, of course, we recognise it and identify with it. More importantly, we eventually overcame it, even if only through death. So we are prepared and ready to help another out of the unconsciously familiar situation. Helping them does not remove any past blemish of our own. Blemishes are not reborn, only the unevolved consciousness behind that caused those blemishes if that consciousness has not yet evolved beyond it. The past cannot be changed. Past "blemishes" are forever a part of the planet's memory bank. What helping others does do is reinforce us on the path to being a more evolved human being in consciousness and creational energy. Compassion is the result of true consciousness, not its cause. It is why consciousness evolution is so critical.
4) Should we observe with a peaceful mind?
ANSWER 4) Yes. As Billy teaches, we should always observe from a balanced point of neutrality and slightly toward the positive: Neutral positive.
Link 4) Yes. Beautifully said.
Chris
Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1950
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 - 07:06 pm: |
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Thank you, Chris,
for your in-depth and very well-argued reply.
I do agree with most of what you said.
Yes, you are very right: Semjase wanted to express that there was a need to make the ancient leaders forget their past so as to prevent a recurrence of past catastrophes.
By "make belief world" I meant a world that is controlled by belief, sectarian and otherwise - and that many of man's actions and many of our present-day problems, are directly or indirectly, the outcomes of such misguided belief.
With "compassion" - yes, you are very right, one cannot undo the past. One can only make new causes until a new self-image evolves. But by positively using one's experience of past failures to warn others and/or guide them away from similar "bad habits", by becoming a "teacher", a new, more balanced, self-consciousness is formed: So, via compassion even past mistakes may be used as a tool to create a much deeper and much more heartfelt understanding and by assisting another human being back onto the "right track", does one not positively assist the universe to evolve, too?
So yes, for me, employing compassion can be one of the ways to balance one's consciousness. And Semjase’s “"... it was also necessary that everyone would change themselves into the thinking of the Earth-humans" – does this not imply "empathy or compassion" with Earth humans?
I do agree with your insight that the more pure-minded person, the stronger and more effective his compassion will be. But there may not be too many of these people in our world which, as EC suggests, is a place in which many people are reborn "who once brought destruction upon themselves" (Reading 364-1)
(Message edited by scott on July 13, 2022) |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1500
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 03:18 pm: |
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Creation energy swinging wave of the pendulum. Something that put a smile on my face. Inherited an antique 7-day wind up pendulum clock from Great-Grandparents. After meditation one day, I recognized what looked like a beamship sitting on top of the clock carving, which I never paid attention too before. I named this clock, my Tayget-Erra timepiece.
 
Fun thoughts
Salome
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1135
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 10:50 pm: |
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Kenneth,
Meditation always opens the eyes!
Nice antique clock! Looking at that makes me wonder what it was like living in the old times. Some things back then were surely better then now. If only I had a beamship! |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1513
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 11:08 pm: |
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Kenneth,
I certainly see the beamship. But even more interestingly, it clearly resembles the True Peace sign (creational symbol for Peace).
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Matcha
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 02-2021
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 01:55 am: |
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Hope it doesn't time-slip on you, Kenneth.
Chris
Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1500
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 01:14 pm: |
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Hi Eddie, Hugo & Chris,
Good catch on the peace symbol. Whether the peace symbol was intended or not, this time piece would have been created before the peace symbol was inverted to the negative. Nonetheless, one can also tell that the carving in and around the beamship was done freehand, not by a machine. BTW, this is an 8-day wind up clock.
Underneath the beamship, this could be interpreted as thrust energy of some form.
It would be interesting to know who this horologist (clockmaker) was. Horology is the study of the measurement of time relating to clocks, watches, clockwork, sundials, etc.
This clock is about 200 years old and sold for $100.00 USD in the early 1800’s. According to official-data-dot-org, $100 in 1822 is equivalent to about $2,531.38 today. Who could afford that back then, for a clock no less?
We know that extraterrestrials have been on Earth for thousands if not millions of years. One would think that this clockmaker would have been aware of aliens. IMO, the clockmaker had to be aware of Creational Energy in order to make this chronometer work properly. There are adjustments in this timepiece to compensate for altitude pertaining to gravitational effects (due to elevation changes in land mass) on the pendulum and inner workings and climate deviations relating to humidity with thicker air and how that affect the clock mechanism. Who knew about this in the early 1800s? I guess Horologists did.
Kenneth |
Norms
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Post Number: 121
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 10:36 pm: |
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Have not read Might of the Thoughts yet but would like to ask if anyone knows whether cessation of thoughts closes vast distances when sending out feelers so that arrival is instantaneous. |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 477
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 - 08:29 am: |
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I want to ask people here what you have all been doing in preparation for WW3 and Apophis? I know many of you have been storing food and water in preparation for the civil wars and civil disorder, as well as the natural disasters, that are said to happen in the US and Europe, but WW3 and Apophis are bigger catastrophes. Storing up food and water seems a little pointless. Are you all going to gather for a last supper or something? Or are we expected to endure it and die with everyone else? |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1508
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2022 - 02:27 pm: |
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Some random thoughts about the Teaching relating to Creation Energy, Earthlings thoughts and action, Cause and Effect, etc. There are many reports prophesying about the possibilities of the third/fourth world war with nuclear weapons, and then there are also reports about the civil wars in the United States where it breaks up into five territories.
What if one event cancels out the other. For example, if there is a nuclear war between the U.S. and Russia, where a large percent of the planet’s (U.S.) population is dead, how could there be a civil war, or at least not for a very long time. Conversely, a civil war breaking out in the U.S. could very well preclude a nuclear war as all energies would then be focused within America.
Any thoughts on this?
Salome
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1141
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2022 - 12:32 am: |
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Kenneth,
Good question!
I often thought the same thing! |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 499
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2022 - 02:42 am: |
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Kenneth,
I don't think a world war would stop a civil war from happening in the US. America is a big country, with a lot of unoccuppied land, a lot of people, and even more weapons. I think if the US does start a war with Russia, there is going to be a lot of angry Americans who won't just sit back and watch it all unfold.
If it's delayed until the next election, and assuming Trump is elected as President, I definitely see a civil war kicking off instead of a world war. Those on the far-Left seem to be an unstable lot.
To be honest, I think the only hope the world has is if there is a civil war in the US. That would, of course, drive down the economy and the world would quickly go into a depression, but it could avoid a world war. If it doesn't, I don't see Europe standing up well on its own against Russia, and quite possibly China. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1531
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2022 - 01:32 pm: |
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Kenneth,
According to the Creation-Energy teaching and the Teaching of the Truth, the Creation, and in this case the Milky Way galaxy, swinging waves (or some other energetical force) is effecting some form of stimuli that is affecting all of fauna and flora.
Said stimuli is the reason behind all the emotional triggers, part of the transformative Aquarian Age swinging waves/impulses that are hurled our way in compliance to the creational law of the becoming & passing.
Arahat Athersata warned that for the new millennium, that which cannot conform to the new, evolutive and said stimuli (creational swinging waves) will literally die off.
I see this happening with the Dark Order, warmongers, Biden administration, human traffickers, NATO, destruction of our soil (see "Save Soil movement"), the protests in Iran, etc., etc.
Billy once foretold that "A lot of good will come from Russia".
But what has me intrigued is the very likelihood that the Aquarian Age will include a coexistence with the Earth Foreigners.
Something to keep in mind:
1. We must consider how Arahat Athersata evolve compared to how humans evolve; Arahat Athersata evolve by creatively applying their knowledge and wisdom. Humans evolve by trial & error.
2. We see Billy's human form and forget to include his ability to access his Arahat Athersata storage banks.
3. Earth-future time travelers seem to have a keen interest in this specific time of the Ukraine-Russia conflict and the possible earth Foreigners coming out of hiding.
4. Biden and NATO are acting out in such a way that the Earth Foreigners would be justified in coming out of hiding.
5. Since travelers from our future are coming here, what does that tell us about the efficacy of the Nokodemion personalities' efforts and the Year 3999?
I do know (recognize) that he/she who reads and follows the contact reports triggers swinging waves and then take actions within our means that further shed light on that which must go the way of the law of becoming & passing and die off.
It's an interesting time to be alive.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1509
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2022 - 08:35 pm: |
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Hi Eddie.
Thanks for the response. "...he/she who reads and follows the contact reports triggers swinging waves and then take actions within our means that further shed light on that which must go the way of the law of becoming & passing and die off...
I understand the events that may bring the Earth Foreigners out of concealment. This may not be a good thing for Earthlings, but by this time it may be the only viable option for Earths survival. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1510
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2022 - 09:21 pm: |
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Hi Joseph_emmanuel,
You might be correct about the angry Americans, if the U.S. starts a war with Russia. Nonetheless, on my end of the world, I don’t find too many people that know or even understand the truthful reality of what is actually happening between Ukraine, Russia and the U.S., as a great deal of factual information is not reaching the population. On top of that, I have not encountered anyone that is aware of Creation and the Teaching outside of Michael Horn and the FIGU Arizona Creation Energy teaching group or the few folks that are receiving Billy’s information from me.
I agree that a civil war in the U.S. would drive down the economy and the world would quickly go into a depression, which may avoid a world war. The only issue that may counter that is BRICS, which is the acronym for five major economies of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.
China (2022 host): President Xi Jinping
Brazil: President Jair Bolsonaro
Russia: President Vladimir Putin
India: Prime Minister Narendra Modi
South Africa: Cyril Ramaphosa
BRICS is quickly establishing a reserve currency that will rival the US dollar and the IMF's Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) currency. These nations/countries are developing a reliable alternative for international payments based on gold and other precious metals.
In the end, Creational law will rule here as well. Whatever happens, we are all in for a bumpy ride, IMO.
Salome
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1533
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2022 - 10:31 pm: |
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Kenneth,
According to Ptaah, the Earth-foreigners are not versed in the spiritual teaching and are of a similar consciousness evolution as us terrestrials.
So NATO and Russia should take this into consideration. Their technologies are 200 years more advanced, so they would be able to easily impose what ever they want.
Ptaah also said that they can be just as barbaric as we are... fortunately, (I think) they don't suffer with the aggression gene manipulation. But we shouldn't judge anyone too harshly who are not at the "Teaching Of The Life" level as the Plejaren... to the Plejaren, we and the Earth-foreigners, including the Future-travelers, are "primitive" in a creational sense.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1511
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2022 - 12:29 pm: |
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Hi Eddie,
I cannot argue against any of your logic and information in your post 1533. I agree with you 100%.
Salome
Kenneth |
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