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Phaethonsfire
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Post Number: 259
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:06 am: | 
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I personally think that household work like vacuuming, cleaning, making food, doing the lawn, etc is good manual work for both genders, not only for one gender.
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Ardie
Member
Post Number: 8
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 06:41 pm: |
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Hello Jakobjn,
I am interested in getting more information on naming babies properly. My first grandchild has a due date of next February 14th. What are the steps taken to determine the best name?
Thanks, Ardie |
Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 268
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 05:28 pm: |
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Ardie, I will answer your question as soon as possible, I will do that tomorrow 6/28 on monday.
Salome,
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 269
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 02:21 pm: |
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Ardie,
The best steps which one can undertake are the following:
1. Make sure that the first name of the baby sounds harmonious with it's last name.
2. Every person that is born has a birthnumber, which means if your grandchild is born Februari 14, then the birthnumber is a 5; 14= 1 + 4 = 5
Make sure that this birth number never adds up with the name-number to an 8, which has a negative value.
3. The meaning of the name should reflect one of the positive proporties of the birthsign under which the baby is born.
4. Every name has a groundnumber which can be calculated by the Kabbalisitic calculations. It's however important that if the child gets a nickname or calling name next to the official name, that the name which is actually used should be used for the kabbalisitic calculations.
A = 2
B = 9
C = 1
D = 5
E = 5
F = 8
G = 9
H = 1
I = 1
J = 1
K = 9
L = 5
M = 4
N = 5
O = 7
P = 6
Q = 8
R = 2
S = 3
T = 1
U = 6
V = 6
W =6
X = 6
Y = 1
Z = 5
These are the numerical values for the letters.
Example:
M I C H A E L
4 1 1 1 2 5 5 = 19 = 1 + 9 = 10 = 1+ 0 = 1
When Michael would be born on 16 Februari then his name-number would be a 8.
Michael would be a 1 + 16 (1 + 6 = 7) 1+7 =8
That would be a wrong name to chose.
Make sure that all combinations of first and last name and birth number never substract to the number 8
I could recommend the book of names of Billy to chose a name from, in accordance with the Kabbalistic calculations which I have shown.
Ardie, if you have questions, feel free to ask any time.
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Ardie
Member
Post Number: 9
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 05:15 pm: |
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Hello again Jakobjn,
I've spent the last couple of days translating the beginning of my Interplanetary Names book and I think I've got it pretty much figured out. The one thing that I am not sure about is Step 4 about the Spirituality of the parents. It doesn't say if you give points for each parent and add them together, or whether you find the average of both the parents points, or do you use the points of the highest scoring parent?
I've worked up a chart of all the steps, to make it easy for couples to follow, and I would like to send it to you for review and corrections, if possible.
Salome, Ardie |
Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 271
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 07:31 am: |
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Hello Ardie,
Yes of course, no problem. Send it to my email: jacob.smits@forum.figu.org
I will check it out.
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Ardie
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 09:35 pm: |
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Jakobjn,
Thank you very much for this information! It is different from what I found in the Name Book, but it is more what I had expected it would be like. Should a person try to combine the two processes while determining a name?
Also, I am a little confused on how to subtract the birth numbers and first and last name numbers? It looks like, in most cases, that you would wind up with a negative number. Could you give us an example of how it is done?
Unfortunately, my own nickname of Ardie, when added to my birth number adds up to 8. Yikes! My full name doesn't, but I prefer my nickname. Would it make any difference if I was to drop the "e" off of the end of my name? Does the sound of a name or the spelling matter most?
What kind of negative effects does an 8 bring to one?
In a post that I made yesterday, but which hasn't been put on the board yet, I mentioned that I had spent the past few days translating the steps for naming a baby in the Book of Names. I have a question about one of the steps:
In step 4 it asks about the Spirituality of the Parents. You get points according to the answer. Do you know if they are asking for the points of the highest scoring parent or do you take the points for each parent and add them together? Or is there another way to determine the points for that Step? The other steps give a chart to go by, but this question is done differently.
In the Book of Names the amount of points that you wind up with determines the category from which you look for names. They are EARTH, FIRE, AIR, and WATER. But, your instructions have you look for names according to your birth sign. Why are there two ways to do this and can they be combined?
I hope I haven't asked too many questions of you!
Salome, Ardi  |
Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 273
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 05:03 pm: |
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Hello Ardi,
I will answer you as soon as possible this week.
Salome,
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 527
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 06:02 pm: |
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Hello,
As I understand it, once a person takes his last breath, his psyche ceases to exist and the Spirit and CCB leaves the body for the beyond.
Now since the spirit is unconscious, this means the only physical awareness we have comes from the material consciousness and subconscious. Since this is true, then for most people, death is the end of existence as we know it. Even though the spirit continues, it really is of no aid to a person when he is facing his own physical mortality.
How can we gain any comfort in knowing our spirit is eternal, when the reality we know will end someday?
It would seem the only way we can make sense of this, is to develop a philosophy of life and to somehow prove the existence of the spirit within us. As has been stated even a very highly evolved creature like Jmmanuel still felt the ravages and fears of mortality.
If this is true for all creatures in the Universe, why would Creation endow us with this apparent mortality which causes us grief and dread?
Any comments….
Salome
Scott |
Savio
Member
Post Number: 482
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 01:37 am: |
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Hi Scott
I would think that the reason for grief and dread is unknowing. We all need time to evolve to the point of knowing the truths.
Buddha and Tao masters said it right, it is unknowing that leads to fear and grief, we need awareness and education in order to become knowing.
I would think Jmmanuel did not afraid of the death but the forthcoming pain and suffering, his knew it beforehand and his body/psyche alarmed naturally about the great danger where he cannot control hence the fear.
It would be a bit sad that we will become unconscious after we died, yet on the other hand, it may be a really good idea to have a good sleep/rest after such a tiresome life time, give up the worn out aged body and be born again all new as a baby when it is time.
Just a few thought.
Salome
Savio |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 50
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 04:58 am: |
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hi scott
i think that if you are not 100% sure that the spirit is something real
and that it lives beyond death,
then maybe you are searching in the wrong place. . .
in other words, you DON´T have a spirit within yourself
but instead YOU ARE THE SPIRIT
that gives life to this body and to this mind
if you want to be 100% sure of this, the only thing you have to do (and in fact the only thing that you CAN do, and that is the definitve probe and not just bla bla bla), is to look inside,
don´t search for anything special, do not await for something to happen (that would be like when the dog tries to bite his own tail)
you only have to observe, quietly, without judging
soon or late it will happen
LOOK
look inside
and you will change
forever
. . .
honestly
i think that death will always be dreadful in one or another way
1- i think that death makes us evolve, in other words if we were absolutely inmortal (if we would never die at least physically, if we were not scared of death), then we would not make effort to do something with our lives and as a result we would stagnate
2-i think that jmmanuel was not scared of dying but he was scared of the pain he had to suffer, and thats why his body began to tremble, he(the body) told him: "i dont like this, lets run out of here, f... the mission and f... everyone else"
but of course he can´t do that(thinking about that, makes it easier to understand, how difficult is to carry the mission, and how, any other than Billy would escape)
3-death can be your ally, death can be your friend,
everybody knows that he/she will die
but not everybody feels it
when you become aware that every moment can be the last,
that gives power to your actions
that gives sense to your existance
you become aware of the real value of life, of health, and the insignificance of material things
then each and every moment becomes of the same importance as anyother
then you can see how things are in reality
you can see the beauty in supposedly "ugly people"
and you can see the "magic" in things so common, like eating, like talking to someone else, like breathing, like seeing, etc
. . .
think about your death
and make it your ally
it will give you power
then you will see the real importance of the peace meditation, the warnings about overpopulation, you will see how the world can´t exist without you, and how anyone and anything else is as important as yourself
its something completely different knowing it (intellectually)
than feeling it with your whole being
i hope this helps (at least a little) |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 52
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 07:34 am: |
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It is logical that there is no use in worrying about what happens after death since you do not know. However, since there is the possibility that we all have an immortal spirit, we should at least attempt to learn more about it. Billy has suggested meditation as the way to do this. As far as our material consciousness ending at physical death, you shouldn't consider this a waste, or source of anxiety, since all the wisdom learned during the physical incarnation is carried over through death by the spirit and CCB. The knowledge that you will have more knowledge and wisdom in your next life (thus making it more productive and enjoyable) definitely is a comforting thought. And besides those thoughts, death can also be considered a valuable rest period between lives, though it is by no means a stagnant period! |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 03:53 pm: |
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Jakobjn, you and I have not spoken in a while since I was temporarily without a computer. I have just read your recent postings on the Kybalion and related information. I found it very interesting that the info originally came from the Nokodemion lineage. The book called the Kyballion by Three Initiates was one of the first books to strike me as profound and accurate in relation to what I now call spirit teachings. Back then I knew nothing of Billy.
Anyway, to stay on topic, is there any new information from your readings that you can offer us (the forum)? I definitely look forward to your explanations and information. So whenever you have time, keep the knowledge flowing, it is very appreciated!
Your friend,
Thomas |
Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 277
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 01:25 pm: |
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Universal Love
When we would see Creation as a enormous garden full of flowers and trees, animals, etc then they have all in common that they derive directly or indirectly their nourishment from the soil on which they live.
As human spirit forms we are part of Creation itself and we have the ultimate goal of become one again with Creation as part of the Universal Consciousness.
In order for the spiritform to reach that goal we have to have the same qualities and capabilities as Creation itself, of course on a very much smaller scale then Creation itself.
The creation of Universal love in ones spirit is essential for development and its subsequent goal: perfection and unification.
Before the spirit can be a part of Creation it needs the same capabilities and powers to be a fully functional spirit-energy-consciousnessblock in Creation itself.
Universal love is the unity of all life in recognition that any thought, feeling or action will influence the whole as such.
Only in Universal love the human will be capable of creating all spiritual abilities and capabilities in order to become one with Creation, when Universal love is missing, then the evolution will stall since its essential for development of all required spiritual powers and abilities.
A human without Universal love is much like a barren ground capable of only developing grass and small plants, but not trees and bushes etc.
A human with Universal love will is much like a fertile ground on which over time all kinds of plant life will grow, including big trees and bushes and animal life.
This is also a safeguard from Creation that no human / spiritform can develop powers and capabilities that would be able to destroy the universe.
Sooner or later the evolution will stall when there is no Universal love developed.
When Universal love develops and gets stronger in the spirit, the probability will decrease that such a human will be power hunger and greedy, and over time this probability will decrease to zero, but then a human will be close to being a half-spirit / halfhuman form.
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Michael_d
Member
Post Number: 64
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 09:28 pm: |
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Jakobjn,
Regarding Cabbalistic calculations, do you know the meanings, symbolisms or attributes of the other numbers from 0 to 9?
Michael_d |
Michael_d
Member
Post Number: 69
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 07:54 am: |
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Jakobjn and Ardie,
Is it possible for you to shed some light on the meaning of the numbers 0 through 9? Thus far all I've been able to gather is that the number 8 is to be avoided. The contemporary numerology books are not of assistance as they don't concur with the values assigned to the letters as Jakobjn elaborated in his earlier posting. Any information you can provide about the basic meaning of the numbers is greatly appreciated.
Michael_d |
Ardie
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:08 pm: |
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Hello Michael_d,
I don't know the meanings of the other numbers either, or how/why certain numbers are associated with certain letters. Does each number have a vibration that matches the vibration of the letter?
I was looking over my name and number matches and realised that I had gotten it backwards from what I stated in my previous post. My nickname is alright, it is my full name that WAS the problem. I just got married and changed my last name and so now it isn't an issue any longer.
I am still waiting to hear back from you, Jakobjn, about the questions I asked earlier. I know you are busy and I have lots of time. I just wanted you to know that I haven't forgotten about it, or that maybe you answered them and I missed it somehow.
Salome, Ardie |
Ritak
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 05-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 06:14 am: |
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Dear Michael_d,
In the contact notes, Semjase and Billy discuss numbers. They agree that Cheiro had the proper meanings for them, and in his book 'Cheiro's Book of Numbers', you can read all about it. Unfortunately, the values that Cheiro gives for the letters of the alphabet are wrong, and the values that Jakob posted coming from the FIGU Spirit Lessons only apply to the German language, so we don't have the alphabet values in English yet. Nevertheless, you can read up on the values of all the numbers in Cheiro's Book of Numbers and then check out the vibration of your house number, birth number, etc. and find some interesting energy correllations. What is espcially interesting in Cheiro's book is the explanation of the number 13, which is not unlucky at all but was made to be by the clergy around the time of the witch burnings (The reason for that is another long story in itself.) In truth, the number 13 is a number with the vibration of 'power to women' and promotes success to any women who use this number in their business affairs, especially so if these are in direct relation to women's issues. It gives a whole new meaning to Friday the 13th, which has always been a day charged with very good energy, in my experience.
Salome,
Rita |
Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 289
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 10:47 am: |
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Michael,
The spirit lessons tell a completely different story about the number 13 then is explained by Rita.
An part of the spirit lesson 36 page 407.
Die Zahl 13 Steht fur das Gesetz von Ursache und Wirkung, fur Auflehnung, fur Vernichtung des Umzuwandelnden und zu Verandernden, fur die revolution und fur jegliche Umwalzung.
Gleichermassen aber steht die Zahl 13 als Warnung vor jeglichem Missbrauch der Macht, wobei sich speziell die Trager dieser Zahl vor gefahrlichen Spekulationen und Unternehmungen huten und schutzen sollten.
Translation:
The number 13 represents the law of cause and effect, for backlash, for destruction of the to be converted and to be changed, for revolution and for every circulation. Equally, however, the number 13 stands as a warning for every abuse of power and especially the bearers of this number should watch out for dangerous speculations and enterprises and protect themselves.
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So you can see that there is a big difference between the Cheiro explanation and the Spirit lesson explanation of the number 13. I would strongly advice to be cautious of the use of the Cheiro numbers / interpretation since a fairly high percentage / interpretation is incorrect which leads to incorrect results.
The values I posted about the letters and their kabbalistic values are valid for names since most names are exactly the same in German as in English or Dutch.
Example:
The name 'Hans' is the same in English, German and Dutch.
I will post very soon about the single digit numbers and their meaning.
Salome,
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 290
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 10:48 am: |
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Ardie and Michael, both my apologies, I will post asap this week, I was caught up and it slipped, I am sorry.
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Michael_d
Member
Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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Hello Ardie, Jakobjn and Rita:
Thanks for all the insights. Jakobjn, I will patiently await your posting about the single digit numbers and their meaning.
In the meanwhile, I have a question concerning names and calculating their value:
If we are trying to interpret proper names that are constructed of words, in the English language, such as "Accordant", which might represent the name used by a company or business, would the letter/value correlations you posted for the German language apply to this case? The root word "Accord" translates to "Übereinstimmung" in German.
Best regards to all,
Michael_d
P.S.: Jakobjn, I have a private question to ask you about numbers. If that is acceptable, may I please have your email address? |
Ritak
Member
Post Number: 46
Registered: 05-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 07:17 pm: |
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Dear Jakobjn,
May I ask, have you ever read Cheiro's Book of Numbers? Are you stating your opinion or have you heard this from FIGU?
In my opinion, the comparison warrants further scrutiny. Some years ago, when I made the comparison between Cheiro's Book of Numbers and Billy's information, I found all crystals and stones for each number to be almost exactly the same as Billy's, also the values of the numbers from 1 to 9 were uncannily close in meaning. When I read that Semjase commended Cheiro's Book of Numbers in the contact notes, yet warning at the same time that he was wrong in the letter values (because he used a system for another era), I was quite intrigued and studied this in depth.
The value of the number 13 in Cheiro's Book Of Numbers goes on for four pages, much more indepth than most of the numbers, and also exposes its negative side, as you mention it now. I only mentioned the positive part.
Cheiro was an unusually psychically gifted person. Billy does not go into such depth for each number as Cheiro did; perhaps if he were to do so, he might have something interesting to say regarding women/witch burnings and the widespread superstition around the elusive number '13'. There is definitely something to that.
Salome,
Rita |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 409
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 03:15 pm: |
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Hi Jacob and All...
Jacob, Thank you for your explanations.
I my self have studied the Tarot cards for a long while back in the mid
70ties till around the mid 80ties and what you have explained as what is
mentioned in Spirit Lessons concerning nr. 13 do have a great deal in
common with its interpretations. If One interprets it in the correct
manner.
Thus nr. 13 as being a number of Caution/Danger/Death, and as you
mentioned the Cause and Effect; thus depending on how the cards are
spread. Which from there on can be analysed if a situation would occur -
Cause - and how One could Influence the Outcome/Effect...if a Negative
event would occur...into a Positive Out-Come/Effect. Thus, One would
have to us One's "Thinking Process" to have a Positive Out-Come/Effect
...and Let Go...of their "Impulses" that may lead them to a Negative
Out-Come/Effect.
I tend to analyze the Tarot cards and other numberings as being in
different categories. Thus, Tarot cards having other values(and
Possibilities) than Name numbers or Birth numbers, because they(all
three) have their own interpretations and Vibrations-Values..in adapting
to the situation(s) or circumstance(s) of what is being analyzed and
interpreted.
As in Tarot cards One can give a much Fuller interpretation and it's
value-possibility than the Names or Birth numbers. But I would not close
out that everyone has their own interpretation method. I my self can get
more out of the Tarot cards than the other two. I guess maybe because of
studying it for a long time. Just my experience. But again...I'm no
expert on this.
Edward. |
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