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Phaethonsfire
Moderator
Post Number: 306
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 12:01 pm: | 
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yes that is correct, however I should use true astrology too to determine the best times for business or personal undertakings.
However astrology requires a fair amount of emperical knowledge because there are so many different influences which to take into account.
Jakobjn
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Dplotmach
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:12 pm: |
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Hi, and thank you for your response Phaetonsfire.
In the past months I have been having a strange perception/habit/experience. Almost everytime i watch the clock, its something about the number "144". Im not joking. All i know about it, is that its 12*12, and thats it a biblical number (the 144000 jews who will be saved etc). Anyone here have a clue, or is it just a kind of "psychosis"? Very strange. |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 72
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 07:53 pm: |
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hi
in the FIGU website in one of the interviews with Billy (´88), he speaks about that number and the Mission |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 73
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 05:28 am: |
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dplotmatch
i recomend you that you check the info about the "peace meditation" in the FIGU website too,
here are some interesting numbers i discovered recently related with 144 and the P. M.
- every day has 24 hours
- every hour has 60 minutes
- 24 x 60= 1440
- every year there are 72 peace meditations
(6 every month, 6 x 12 = 72)
- every peace meditation lasts 20 minutes
- 1440/20 = 72
- and obviously 1440/72 = 20
- 72 x 20 = 1440
etc etc
and if you continue to play with the numbers, im sure you can find many other "coincidences"
if you do not participate in the PM maybe it is the right moment to begin |
Joseph_emmanuel
Member
Post Number: 49
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 07:49 am: |
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Hello
How does one work out the numerological value of a word? What is the correct procedure? I have seen Jose Barretto's calculations of the antilogos value 666. But I just don't understand how it is done. What method has been used? Is there a chart that one can follow? I am particularly interested in trying to understand why the name Jesus Christ has the numerological value of 666. Does anyone know how to work this out in a simple, straightforward, plain and logical method?
For example, it is claimed that Christianity has the numerological value of 666 since it was founded in the year 189. (Can anyone actually confirm that this date is correct and complies with the historical records we have? I don't want to hear that Billy says so. I'm asking if this is something the rest of the world agrees with?)
Now this is worked out in this fashion:
1 + 8 + 9 = 18 which divided in 3 makes 666
This I can at least understand how it is worked out, although I'm not sure why 666 is its numerological value and not 9 (1 + 8 = 9).
Why is it divided in three?
Why is 666 considered negative? Does the word 'Antilogos' have this numerological value?
Any help on this would be great. But please make it simple.
All the best
Joseph |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 429
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 03:11 am: |
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Hi Joseph....
Here are some excerpts explained by the Plejarens to Billy, and from
Billy him self. Hope this may give you more Insight.
Concerning the Title of the name Christ(us)/Christos/666/Anti-LOGOS.
Clarification of a Defamatory Claim
"On the other hand, the title Jesus Christ contains the value of
all that is evil, excessive and murderous. Christ is the English
version of the Old Greek word Christos and is a direct reference
to ancient, mysterious cult activities. That is to say that the
title Christos was applied to the actual cult rite during cult and
unreal rituals, when anointment and unction sacraments were per-
formed on sacrificial offerings and idols. If we speak here of
anointments and unctions, it does not refer to ointments and oils,
but the blood of infants, girls and virgins, who had been brutally
slaughtered and their blood gathered in urns.
But it is for all these reasons that even today the title Christus
or Christos stands for absolute negativity, contempt for Creation
and evil with the numerological value of 666."
Monitoring Systems
"Likewise, this terrifying vision foreshadows the 'New World Order'
which, from ancient times onward, was linked to prophecies about an
'animal with the number 666' exerting immense power. I intend to
elaborate more extensively, in justifiable form, in the FIGU News-
letter on this prophecy and vision, along with many other important
matters of which Man on Earth should be apprised."
From - 49 Questions - from the Billy Meier Contacts.
Q-38.What does anti-logos mean?
"Semjase: It is worth mentioning that the numerological value 666,
the Anti-Logos, and the related lies and misrepresentations, were
forced upon terrestrial human beings. Fanatics, liars, deceivers,
religions, charlatans, and the power hungry thrust this deceitful
name upon humans against their will. Hence, the value of the number
666 does not apply to an individual nor to the thinking processes
and actions of a long-departed human being from Earth, but it refers
to the figure of delusion it turned into. It has ruled the Earth as
a religious cult figure ever since."
Voice of the Aquarian Age.
#51, WUV Strikes Back!
"One can recognize from this that the animal or monster WUV 666
["Weltumweltverschmutzung" - in English: World Environmental Polution]
refers to the consequences generated by a specific human breed, the
humans of the 20th Century who bear the "666" mark uopn their forehead,
so to speak."
Prophecies and Predictions.
Thursday, January 29, 1976, sentence 1-14(Petel)
"It is the Child of evil, the child of destruction, who is a deadly
enemy of knowledge, wisdom, and truth - an enemy of love, peace,
reverence, and harmony. It is the anti-logos in a myraid forms. The
number 666 is the power of evil, for it opposes the truth about
Creation, the truth about the spirit, and the compliance with Crea-
tion's laws and directives. The "IT" is "HE" -and he is embodied as
the powerful who exist in lawlessness, tyranny, and bloodthristiness
within the anti-logos. It is an evil power with deceivtful forces,
miracles, signs, all types of seduction, trickery, lies and deceit
regarding injustice, and false teachings among those who become lost
within the erroneous knowledge of the anti-logos, instead of accepting
the love of truth for their own salvation. The anti-logos is the child
of destruction, evil, confusion, the prowling, lurking, and deadly. It
is the seed of annihilation, the murderer of the truth - 666, the
anit-logos."
LOGOS=reason; that which is logical.
Life in Spiritual and Physical
"Truly, the Earthling has developed and "splendidly advanced" to the
turning point of the approaching year 2000. He has taken himself to
the brink of a deep abyss and placed himself before the fangs of
- the beast of lunacy - driven by false doctrines and religious cults
of malicious degeneration, which brought forth hatred, greed, vice,
misery, lust, and bloodshed."
Joseph, I think if you read the above acouple of times..it will
Soak into your Consciousness...
I think it is well and clearly explained by the Plejarens and Billy.
Maybe the Ones at this board can clearify..themselves with which methode
of numerology they utilizing....?
It seems that there are Divers types of methodes.
Knowledge to you....
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 458
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 12:04 am: |
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Hi All.....
Moderator, I think this is the well suited string for this topic.
I think we may have gotten Carried Away...on the wrong string; thus, I
will post here...
Just one more for the road. Than I close my case....
Will be off for this week.
When calculating the Negative Value of - 666 - in it's total, utilizing
the Pythagorean system, this is it's result.
666, reduce calculated is 9.
Number 9.. being the Most Negative number Value of the Pythagorean Table
of translations.
It is Associated, in general, with "DEATH" and "Struggle", and learning to
evolve through this number's process(ing)! But in general, it is just a
Negative...Loaded value! And from these Negative occurring events, it may
even make One "Sacrifice" One's Spirit, Literally!
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 459
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 03:51 am: |
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Hi All...
Just one more Pythagorean Total calculation, but this time concerning
- EDUARD ALBERT MEIER -.
EDUARD ALBERT MEIER: Vowels=7, Name=8, Consonants=1, total = 781.
Than reduce calculated, it is, YES....our Well-known Magical Positive
Value number of "7", AGAIN!!!
781=78+1=79=7+9=16=1+6="7"!!
Coincidence.????
NOPE!!!
Again, just plain UR..."TRUE PROPHETICAL DESTINY!!!"
Thus, we can conclude: this and other Pythagorean Total calculations of
- Eduard Albert Meier -, Truly..."Confirms" Who he Is...as stated by the
Plejarans.
It is All..."Imbedded" in Creation's Unmeasurable Mathematical Body and
System.
"Gratefulness To Creation...."
Edward. |
Ascension
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 11:48 pm: |
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Hi,
I was confused by your calculation. Could you please explan where you got the numbers? I count 8 vowels, 1 name ( :P lol ), and 9 vowels. Perhaps a link to a site you know wich explains this would suffice. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 484
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 06:39 am: |
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Hi Ascension..
What I calculated was from the "Pythagorean "TOTAL" calculations".
NOT Single name(s).
I did mention the "TOTAL" clearly, not?
But, concerning just the name - EDUARD -(Single).
VOWELS
5 31 = 53+1=54=5+4="9"
EDUARD is a TOTAL of "9"
NAME
E D U A R D
5+4+21+1+18+4=53=5+3="8"
EDUARD is a TOTAL of "8"
CONSONANTS
4 94 = 49+4=53=5+3="8" or,
4 94 = 4+94=98=9+8=17=1+7="8"
EDUARD is a TOTAL of "8"
Thus, "TOTAL"=988=98+8=106=10+6=16=1+6=7
So, the calculations I did were a mixture of Manual and Program
calculations, and I noticed in the Program calculations that the
"TOTALS" resulted in the mentioned above. It had More to Offer.
Thus, I am not speaking here of just the VOWELS and NAME calculations
which results into That..total, as you are referring to.
I just happen to be calculating the three "TOTALS": - VOWELS, NAME
(data entry) and CONSONANTS... - and ended with the concluded result.
Which I did not find as being a "Coincidence" or so, but just Destine to
be. Just as I did, with other calculations related to Billy. I would
Acknowledge this as Logical results, knowing the Significance the number
"7" plays; a great part in the Manifestation of Billy, as well as his
MISSION...and others.
Thus.. it seems, that we can find more Data Value...than we may expect.
Hope this helps a bit?
Edward. |
Ascension
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 03:15 am: |
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also isnt Unmeasurable Mathematical Body a contradiction?
Dictionairy.com gives this definition:
The study of the measurement, properties, and relationships of quantities and sets, using numbers and symbols.
only finite things can be measurable? |
Janimetso
Member
Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:33 am: |
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Hello Edward and all,
Andrew Cossette once told me on this forum that the value of A is not 1 but 2, according to the Spiritual Teachings.
Jani
Jani Metso
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Dplotmach
Member
Post Number: 27
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 10:13 am: |
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Hi, what is the numbers for the norwegian symbols "Æ" (ae), "Ø" (oe) and "Å", like the o in "most"? |
Nestingwave
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 03:35 pm: |
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Hello Edward and all.
This is my first post on the new forum.
I enjoy your discussion about numerology and do believe that numbers are an important part of communications as are all symbols. I do think that some of your calculations (just like the bible codes etc.) are somewhat less than objective and I can't say that they all make sense to me. I'm sure they do to you.
Actually, as far as I'm concerned the only proof I need about Billy is the wisdom he speaks. There's plenty of that. The way you recognize a genuine prophet is -- their predictions come true. Billy has the best track record of anyone I know.
Words are symbols. Pictures are symbols and truly often worth a thousand words.
For a number of years I've been studying the western system called Tarot. It seems to be a language of the collective consciousness, especially applicable to the western mind. Numbers, of course, are important here too. Such as the tetragrammaton JHWH. Positive J acts upon negative H producing W. This triangle becomes the second H which is the J of the next cycle in reverse polarity -- Six pointed star of Solomon interwoven -- in three dimensions -- becoming increasingly dense matter as it proceeds in its materialization. This is probably an over simplified explanation but this seems to be the way Creation proceeds mathematically - or one of the ways.
I have a couple of questions for anyone who might care to answer or comment.
Is it possible that a system of archtypes such as the Tarot can convey meaningful information from the Akashic record? Can it facilitate telepathy by "tuning in" to specific frequencies?
All information has to be interpreted via meaningful symbols into a cohesive communication.
These basic symbols seem to register deep within us beyond our spoken language. For example: Major Arcana 15 (The Devil). Man and woman chained and enslaved by the world control paradigm (religion). AND YET, the chains are LOOSE -- they can walk away anytime they see through the false illusion -- marvelous!
The basic symbols of the Tarot seem to be all around us -- cups, swords, wands, pentacles, the Fools journey etc.
On 911 we all saw a picture of Major Arcana 16 (the lighting struck tower). It's almost as if the black magicians behind 911 wanted us to see that picture -- to embed it into our consciousness, or more likely, our subconscious for the sake of control. The crowned and the uncrowned all pouring out of those windows falling to their deaths below -- the blazing tower of $$$ (built upon greed by the destroyers of the earth) -- crumbling before our eyes -- in an instant -- all changes forever -- insecurity looms -- icey fear raises its ugly head.
Someone knew how to manipulate the power of symbols to have maximum effect on the unthinking masses without them even knowing it.
On the other hand, we have Major Arcana 17 (The Star) -- a picture of the new paradigm of peace now emerging in the consciousness of those who will allow it to be. A woman with a water jug -- aquarius -- under the guidance of the Star. hmmm
Anyhow, I find that "coincidences" often become synchronicities of holistic union. What do you think?
Roy |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 117
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:26 pm: |
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hi roy
welcome to the forum
im not an expert or anything but i find too very interesting things in the tarot
first, it seems to me that whoever created the Tarot , did it for a very specific purpose
for some time i have been reading some info that comes from an "hermetic group", among many other things they say that the tarot (also called the "mute" book of Toth) was created by wise people for the purpose of preserving some knowledge, for the purpose of influencing the people without them being aware, for example taking advantage of their vices (cards), and the images in the cards are supposed to work with the unconscious, (and that they are NOT for knowing the future and that kind of "things")
among many many other things its supposed that through centuries wise persons have offered their knowledge to the people in a way that they do not even realize (because they understood that they were not prepared and they would kill them), for example in fairy tales, and through songs and games that children play
(one example of a book for children written by a member of an hermetic group is "The little Prince" by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, which is a very beautiful book, and there are a lot of them (and maybe they had an influence in US when we were kids without even realizing)
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now, about the Tarot there are many things that are very interesting, for example the number of cards
there are 78 cards
7+8= 15 which is number that even plejarans say that has "magical" properties
the "minor arcana" are 56 cards 5+6 = 11
the "mayor arcana" are 22
11 + 22 = 33
each card or group of cards represents one positive(masculine) or one negative (femenine) aspect, for example the cup is femenine, the sword is masculine, and you can go on with all the cards
another interesting thing about them is their size, the proportion between the width and the height which is aprox the famous "golden number"
1.618. . . (or 0.618. . .) which is a number that is everywhere,
(and if somebody believes that this is nonsense then do this: take the measure from the top of your head to your navel and then multiply it x 1.618 and you will obtain the aprox measure from your navel to the ground, now multiply this x 1.618 and then you have your aprox total height (take in count the errors in the measurement), ¿interesting? search more and you will find that this is just one of tens of "coincidences" that have to do with this number just in your own body)
(im very interested in geometry, maybe someday i´ll post the things i have found about the geometry of the human body)
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here is one example of a Tarot card that i consider very "estimulating" (for the unconscious)
it is the 7th card, look at the "starry sky"at the top of the "chariot", the two sphinxs, the winged disc, the union of the masculine and femenine principles, the alchemical and astrological symbols (that were created by the old lyrans), the moons and many other things . . .
take care
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Ascension
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 01:04 am: |
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hi Edward,
I am thuroughly confused haha.
for the vowels claculation, you started with the number 5 31. what are you counting to get those numbers? 5 and 31 of what? |
Nestingwave
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 03:39 pm: |
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Hi MemoOO.
1.618 -- the golden ratio. I have heard that this mathematical relationship applies also to the frequency of true love as well as galaxies, molusks etc.
Is it true that those love waves are in that golden ratio to one another? Some say this has been scientifically proven. I have heard that waves put forth in that divine proportion are recursive i.e. they do not cross over and cancel each other out as other waves do (entropy) but travel on and on ad infinitum. Know anything about that?
Major Arcana 7 -- The Chariot. Yep, victory in neutralizing the binaries - or - negatively "hard control and domination."
Roy |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 117
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 06:28 am: |
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hi again roy
about the wave thing, i don´t know
but i think it is possible since this proportion exists even in the microscopic world
and as the old aphorism says:
"As above, so below; as below, so above" . . .
the first pic,its supposed to be a microscopic image of a snow crystal (i draw the pink lines)and here you can find this number many many times, and it keeps the same "hexagonal" proportions than the "normal size" snowflakes that everybody knows
the third shows this "proportion" in the human body
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 485
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 09:24 am: |
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Hi Ascension...
I think the best that I can offer you at the moment, is to advise you to
do a Web-Search on everything concerning the "Pythagorean Numerology"
system, and all related to it.
It is best for you to do some Research on it, on your own..to Absorb
much more Insight concerning this Numberology System. This is just the
Best manner to understand this system(and ALL Related). It can just not be
explained..with The Flick Of The Wrist...so to speak. There is just More
...to it. Thus, please make a Study of it on your on..if you will.
Pleasant studying...
Edward. |
Phil638
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 08:22 pm: |
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Hi all,
does anyone know which numerology billy meier says is the most accurate one? Also any suggestions on which numerology program is considered to be the best one out of all the ones out there now?
many thanks - phil |
Phil638
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 02:31 am: |
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I've only noticed comments on numbers ranging thru from 1-9 on numerical values. I have a master number 11 as my numerological life path number, does anyone know or have more info on this number please? |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 48
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 09:35 pm: |
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Phil638,
How did you calculate your master number 11?
The numerology book by Cheiro gives somes info on your number. You might want to check out some of the references to Cheiro on this discussion string.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/3556.html#POST13329
You can find more info about Cheiro by doing a site search. |
Phil638
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:53 am: |
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hi Jo_jo,
I calculated my number from adding my date of birth 3/3/67. I read some of the cheiro stuff posted thruout the forum but are unsure if this is the correct way to calculate it. Do you know if it is? Also cheiro site search revealled nothing on master numbers too. Anyone have more info on this too please?
regards phil |
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