| Author | Message | ||
    Andrew |
Do the Pleiadians offer any clues as to how they communicate through telepathy? Through the spirit, or electromagnetic waves, etc.? | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Andrew, According to the teachings, telepathy is a greek word meaning – 'sensing over distances'. It is a process of contact, transmission or communication in a pure spirit or material-conscious, energy-vibrational form. 1. Primary Telepathy (normal telepathy) – A process achieved at the normal speed of light: A life form capable of telepathy may receive in its consciousness thoughts and words or actual images as an "inner voice" (impulses, words or actual images), or it may send its own telepathic message to other life forms without requiring the application of the audible voice. 2. Spirit Telepathy – Purely spiritual - conscious contact process, (purely spirit symbolic images). Hope this helps. Regards, Andrew C. Cossette | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Do the Plejarans offer any clues on "with whom" we tend to have telepathic contact (Primary or Spirit) with? or... Do we tend to have telepathic contact (either/both types) with some people more than others? If so... under what conditions/situations? | ||
Anthea |
Hello, If I understand correctly, we are not at the evolutionary stage yet where we are able to conduct spirit telepathy (if I'm not mistaken Billy is the only one capable of this?)? Some relatively few persons are only able to conduct primary telepathy, and this is only at the very beginning stages in their evolution? Regards, Anthea C. | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello, Wow telepathy! I'm glad we finely got to this subject in the forum. I think this is one of the coolest things about the Pleiadians and Billy Meier; you know, the fact that telepathy is not only possible but also practised by higher beings throughout the Universe. What a thing to look forward to for all of us!!! But what about today? I don't know about all of you, but I'm fascinated enough with it now to try and figure out how to begin? But what a mystery! Or is it? How many of you have answered a familiar person with only eye contact and a bit of a wink or nod for a simple (yes or no) question posed upon them? Come on, everybody right? I think we do this with friends and family, people we know. Especially married couples, after several years of living together and getting to know each other pretty well, can often communicate simple messages with just a look. Not to mention the looks they can give to their kids when things get out of hand. But is this a basic form of telepathy? It is my opinion at this point, that people can further this capability by taking advantage of opportunities to try and communicate with only eye contact and body gestures. Maybe, even trying to focus the message in your head, and imagining it going to the other person as you are looking at them? Once the other person is privy to your speachless remarks, it seems to make it easier for them to figure out what you are saying. Maybe you can even get them to join it and send you messages from time to time to get a little practise in receiving? And you know, practise makes perfect -- well almost!!!! Comments welcome..... Regards, Anthony | ||
Michael Horn |
Anthony, I had a funny feeling, yes, I just KNEW you'd think of this! Michael | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Anthea, all... Some "unofficial thoughts" on "primary telepathy"... or... "As near as I can figure out so far..." "Some relatively few persons are only able to conduct primary telepathy, and this is only at the very beginning stages in their evolution?" I think "conduct" is a key word here... If these are Plejaran (or Billy's) terms... (!?!) I would tend to "initially" interpret this as: "consciously repeatable & recognizable at will"... with any other human individual(s). As such, I would most certainly agree. That (consciously repeatable?) telepathy is experienced "...at the very beginning stages in their evolution" is interesting...! I would think that at this early stage... we have not "unlearned" this ability by "learning" "ways of being" which inhibit the conscious use of telepathy... I think that many of us (if not all) occasionally experience telepathy but that we don't recognize it for what it is...???? I think we "block it" by the way we think and "are"... Probably there are "mental/spiritual frequency" considerations also? (I'm grabbing at "new age straws" here !) We certainly can't repeat it at will. As such, Anthea's comment (quote?) holds true... IF my assumptions are correct. As for "how we block it"... For example... How does this following concept "fit"...? "Everything in your mind... (thoughts you get) are not ALL your own...??? Or that: "The thoughts you generate"... particularly when "directed to others", others receive at least partially? Supreme invasion of privacy, eh? If one is inclined to "blame others" for whatever... (for example) the repercussions are pretty bad... It would be better if one did not believe in it at all... (?) Further, I think most of us live a "double think" existence. We separate what we feel & know, with what we will say to others... As such, we are not in any position to verify any telepathy whatsoever. We lie continuously, to ourselves & others. As such, telepathy "does not exist". Honesty... anybody? I doubt if the above concept(s) would "sit well" with most people... & they could be totally "out to lunch" as well... They are only "as best as I can figure out" so far... Trying to initiate a discussion, eh? JPL | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Anthony, The "knowing with a glance"... what the "other" was thinking, is something I've noticed as well. What I find interesting is that: IF this is some form of telepathy, it seems to be linked to some form of "physicl/mental" trigger... as in the glance itself. Perhaps this is in contrast to "pure" telepathy where a glance (or whatever) is (perhaps) not necessary at all? (Plejaran definitions, eh?) Also, this "effect" is sometimes accompanied with emotions etc. (I won't mention sex, eh?) By Plejaran "definitions"... is "emotional sharing or one-ness", telepathy as well? (New age definition "counterpart": "empathy"???) I've noticed other parallels to this. Where a "communication" of "emotions/concepts" accompanies a physical/perceptual contact of some sort. I used to like to think of this as a "pre-cursor" to "pure telepathy"... To be certain...? I simply don't know. I'm still trying to figure this all out myself, eh? If you have any more observations to share... go for it, eh? Any clues whatsoever to all this... are valuable. Does anybody else have any ideas or "observations"? PLEASE speak up, eh? I suspect that the core group (or the spirit lessons) could contribute much to this discussion. The ability to "try to figure this all out", however, is probably worth more than the "simple knowledge" (or way of being) itself. I (for one) appreciate your observations... & add them to my own. Further, I have a question... (amongst many, eh?) Is (new age definition) "empathy"... (emotional or "body" telepathy) the same as primary telepathy (Plejaran def.)???? Any "clues" whatsoever or comments would be appreciated. JPL | ||
Linda Williams |
Hi Pierre and all, Believe it or not, I KNEW that Pierre would start this string, and I also KNEW that Michael would KNOW Anthony's THOUGHTS. Astonishing, eh? Must be cyberspace telepathy. Seriously, I made the following remark in an e-mail recently (should I say it was to you, Pierre?): "I fear this communication is giving rise to misunderstanding, or we're simply not on the same wave length, or we're simply confined by the English language! Let's try telepathy next." Then,I added this from Ptaah: "Thought transmission is the purest form of communication, as the conversation may not be maniupulated into something it is not." Now, I'll add this from one of my favorite characters, Eliza Doolittle: "WORDS, WORDS, WORDS, I'M SO SICK OF WORDS! NEVER DO I EVER WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER WORD! SAY ONE MORE WORD, AND I'LL SCREAM!" While I'm an English major, a wordsmith, a writer, and have a decent command of the English language (and I stress, the "English language" only), I'm the first to admit that words get in the way of communications all the time! How nice it will be when we evolve to the point of not having to use them, and not having to get into conversations like "clarify what you mean; define your terms, etc." I think the fact of telepathic communications has been sufficiently established in various scientific laboratories over the last several decades. I am personally familiar with the work of physicists Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff from Stanford Research Institute in California whose efforts targeted telepathy, clairvoyance (remote viewing), precognition and psychokinesis. I am curious about telepathic communications between reincarnated souls and wonder if the tendency to communicate on a telepathic level would be more prevalent between those individuals,having been reunited in any given lifetime. Any comments? Linda | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
A "parallel" or "similar" question... Andrew? Core group? | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello JP, You bring up some important things in this discussion like, "...many of us (if not all) occasionally experience telepathy but that we don't recognize it for what it is..." This was one of the points I was trying to make with my earlier post, that we as human beings are naturally telepathic and evidence might be found at any level of spiritual evolution. So even though we as humans are striving for Primary or Spirit telepathy that are practised by more evolved people like Billy and the Pleiadians, we on Earth can struggle with our "caveman" telepathy, reading body language and trying to understand what another person is thinking, as just an early step to unfolding our inherent telepathic nature. Its funny that you should mention SEX. I think we can find evidence of elementary telepathy in our sexual drive. Take for example --- say your at a party or something, and people are mingling and you notice an interesting woman across the room, and you make eye contact. First off, you know at this point she has noticed you. Even though no WORDS were exchanged, you KNOW that she is aware of you, and maybe some of your intentions. Aware of your intentions, really? Could this be getting someone's thoughts...some form of telepathic communication? Because as a man you will know if she wants to talk to you or not, because of her body language and the stare she gives back to you. And unless your some kind of nerd or something, you'll know right off if she's thinking, "...this guy's a creep...I wish he would stop looking at me..." or, "...this guy is kinda cute...I hope he comes over here and talks to me." So that we see telepathy, although very primitive in nature, might vary well go unrecognized today between people of the opposite sex. Best regards, Anthony | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi JP, Yes, that could be possible. Regards, Andrew C. Cossette | ||
Norm |
Anthony, I don't know that its so much as telepathy, as it is Body Language. There was a whole show on Body Language & Sexual Attraction on the Discovery Channel a few years ago. | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi Norm, Yes you are right; body language is part of what I'm talking about. But what I'm also suggesting is that a person still has to interpret the event. At this point in my example, the man in the sexual encounter is using his mental faculties to sort a message coming in from an interesting" woman, without the benefit of words and speech. Maybe something like interpreting symbols? But in this case, the symbols are common body language and eye contact. So my question is, could this be a crude form of what Billy Meier does when he reads mental symbols or images in his more advanced telepathy? Though the incoming symbols in his case are thoughts and not just body gestures, he still has to interpret the message. And remember my good Norm, I'm just reaching for the sake of discussion....... Best regards, Anthony | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Norm, all...! "...its so much as telepathy, as it is Body Language..." I most certainly agree !!!!!!! This consideration is one which required "absolute honesty" from anyone "studying" / "exploring" or "expanding" etc. It is very easy to "jump to conclusions" especially if one REALLY WANTS to experience telepathy... I have experienced times, however, when any form of "body language" or other clues have NOT been a possibility...!!! (I wish I could "reproduce" these at will, however !!) I'm really sure that MANY readers (of this forum) have experienced the same. LOGICAL VERIFICATION of these types of phenomena IS AN ART/SCIENCE in itself... A life-long involvement. I think that the same above concept also applies to "ET encounters", "Channeling" etc. etc. Anthony... the study of our "sexual tendencies" (I think) is really major, in that at least with us males, we involve ourselves with this quite a bit... *S* Many clues from all this, eh? I know what you're saying...! Unfortunately, any expansion of concepts in this direction could be read/mis-used as a "how to pick up women" manual... really not good, eh? If the topic could be treated "clinically", this would be OK. The "sex websites", though would have a real picnic with all this, though. I find them annoying enough as they are now!!! I'm sure you do too...? I would LOVE to discuss further on the topic of sex (women & telepathy) etc. I'm not sure that a public forum (such as this) is the place to do it, though...?? Interesting comments...! JP | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
"...incoming symbols in his case are thoughts and not just body gestures, he still has to interpret the message..." I think that telepathy is it's own "language" entirely, & not part of our "logical consiousness", or "normal" way of thinking. It is "translated" (or "brought through") our "consious understanding"... & THERE is the possibility of error. The more we "want", etc. the more "mis-interpretation" (or "colouration") there is. I think you might know more than you say, eh? JP | ||
Chris Frank |
I was reading some of Sitchin's works and found it interesting that according to some of the Sumerian writings, Noah was said to be part human and part ET. When the ET's knew that the Earth was going to be flooded, one of the ET's indirectly broke his promise to "God" and tried to warn Noah in a dream of the coming flood, but Noah woke up confused and didn't understand the dream. Was this ET trying to use some sort of telepathy on Noah? Later on Noah had to be told verbally, through trickery of the same (but that is another story). | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi JP, There is always the possibility for error in the interpretation. This even exists when someone spells it out for you with speech. How many times have you SAID something to another person, only to have that person take it the wrong way? This is were the concept of neutral-positive thinking comes in. The better we are at recognizing truth, without "colouration," the better we are going to be at communicating, telepathically or otherwise. As you have said many times earlier in this discussion, "honesty" is what is important here. Best regards, Anthony | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello, So I've suggested the potential for telepathy in reading body language; but does it stop there? Just maybe, some telepathy occurs during other types of communication, such as in reading or speech? To further explain, what do written words, spoken words, and body language all have in common? They are forces -- existing as energy that can be exchanged. Even though we might read written words that are stationary on the page, they are really vibrations of thought that move at a particular frequency. So even when we are just hearing a spoken a message, and recieving sound waves, we are also being bombarded by waves coming from the body movements and thoughts associated with the message, no doubt receiving more information at finer levels. Perhaps most of this deeper information becomes trapped in the unconscious and subconscious minds, an goes unnoticed by lower evolved human beings? And it is up to the spiritually evolving human to bring this subtle information to the conscious mind, thus becoming aware of it. It is my opinion that this step may be a way to developing one's natural telepathic abilities; and in time, may lead to a learned sensitivity that enables the human being to eliminate the "crutches" of visuals and sounds, and move directly to the associated thoughts. Regards, Anthony | ||
Linda Williams |
Hi Anthony and all, At first, I wanted to raise my hand (as a female/woman/lady) with all you guys and ask if you would mind if I threw in my silver penny! And then I KNEW that you wouldn't MIND. The telepathic conversation string has become very convoluted for me! As I see it, telepathy is pure. Telepathy is pure thought. Telepathy is "crystal clear." Telepathy is "clear as a bell." Telepathy requires no interpretation of either linguistics, body language or symbols. To suggest "interpretative telepathy" is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. Telepathic communications can take place effectively by members of the same or opposite sex. As I said, just my silver penny! Linda | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi Linda, I think you are missing what I'm saying. I must try to be more clear. Yes I agree with you, by definition " Telepathy is pure thought...Telepathy requires no interpretation of either linguistics, body language or symbols." I'm only trying to point out that other forms of communication can require these things; and that telepathy might exist along side these other forms. However, I would say that interpretation is still necessary in telepathy; any message has to be filtered in the mind of the person receiving it to be accurately understood, no matter if we are talking about pure thoughts, words, looks or other symbols. Best regards, Anthony | ||
Anthea |
Hello, I wonder if there is a distinction between what is in a person's "aura" due to his/her world of thoughts, and actual primary telepathy. Could it be that we unknowingly/unconsciously pick up signals from another's aura - whether they be positive, negative or neutral positive and we respond accordingly? Perhaps primary telepathy is just that - a purposeful communication of thought from point A to point B - instead of a "sensing" of the aura of a particular person, based on their world of thoughts. Any comments? Regards, Anthea | ||
blerim |
hi anthea if a woman is not asking for support,a man assums he is giving enough. when asking a man for support, assume that he doesn^T HAVE TO BE CONVINCED. one of the key elements of assertive asking is to remain silent after you have asked for support. | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Everyone Wasnt it mentioned in the contact notes that the arua extended out about 90 meters? Does anyone one remember something about that? I agree with Anthea that primary telepathy must be a purposful form of communication. One of the points of learning meditation is to develop concentration. To me, as the concentration is developed one can learn to concentrate and project ones thought to another person. I think this is different than being around someone and picking up various radiations from the aura which may or may not be correct. Has anyone ever tried to sense someone and sometimes you seem to be able to reach them and other times they seem to be cut off? Is this a form of telepathy or something else? Salome Scott | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi All, Perhaps we should all conduct an experiment...! At a particular pre-established time, half of us should direct a particular thought (which the other half of us have no knowledge about) to the other half. Being more than 90 meters away from each other, any effects should be due to primary telepathy & not "auric sensing". Notice, I did not mention spirit telepathy. We could all report any "impressions" we get on this board? If the FIGU moderators would allow this! Yet another question... (or concept to contemplate): Spirit telepathy is at ten times the speed of light. This "ten times figure"... is this "loosely speaking", or is this some sort of "universal constant"? Also, is this EXACTLY ten times the speed of light? ??? JP | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello Scott, I would think you bring up a very important point in understanding telepathy, and that is that concentration plays a key role. I think you would agree with me that participating in the Salome Meditation, and focusing in on the Lyrian words, not only helps out the planet, but also helps train one's mind in concentration. A very nice exercise.... So it would seem concentration is equally important in sending a message as it is in receiving one, no matter what form of communication we are talking about. As it takes concentration to formulate a clear message, and focus to receive it accurately. I think that people who write have a good understanding of how to send a clear message at least. And we are all aware of the basic principles learned in our English classes, in arranging sentences and paragraphs into a coherent message. We usually start with a subject, with further paragraph(s) trying to prove this topic, and finally ending with a conclusion; and we do all this within the rules of a language, trying hard not to stray off subject. Although this applies to speech, and other forms of communication, the skill of writing in particular seems to provide a beautiful template to focusing a clear message to send. Would you agree? Anyway, I think we would both agree that at least meditation is an important step to developing concentration, making you a better communicator in general. And when we finally get to full scale telepathy somewhere down the road, imagine how much clearer the thoughts would be. Best regards, Anthony | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi Anthea, Telepathy has Purpose from point A to point B! Yeah, I would agree. But what I can't figure out is where the fine line seems to be drawn between Primary and Spiritual telepathy. Andrew's earlier post is very helpful, with the two definitions, and I have referred to it often in this discussion. Elsewhere in the FIGU information I read that there is one form of telepathy that is part of our natural evolution, and another form that is accomplished through technological means. I understand the Pleiadians have some sort of a machine that helps facilitate telepathy, if I am correct? I guess this thing might be really able to plant a message right in your head; and would be able to instantly send the clearest message for you. How's that for going from point A to B? So is this the faster Spiritual telepathy? I guess that Primary telepathy, the slower of the two, would be our Creative (natural) ability? It would seem that the broader definition of Primary telepathy, "...may receive in its consciousness thoughts and words or actual images as an "inner voice" (impulses, words or actual images)..." to maybe leave open a little room for artistic freedom? I think JP knows what I'm talking about here. Whereas Spiritual telepathy (the technological means?) seems to be much more exact as a "... conscious contact process, (purely spirit symbolic images; 10 times the speed of light)...", perhaps leaving little room to sense anything? Maybe the machine does all the work? Any ideas....? Best regards, Anthony | ||
Anthea |
Hi Anthony  The Pleiadians may or may not have some kind of machine that facilitates telepathy (if I recall it is mentioned in the Contact Notes that a type of recording device was used to relay the contact conversations to Billy in symbol form). However, their posession of such a device does not explain Billy's ability to conduct Spiritual Telepathy from Earth to Erra ... he does not use any kind of "machine" that I know of. I think one of the differences between primary and spiritual telepathy is the communication distance and of course, the level of evolution of the individual. You said: "I guess that Primary telepathy, the slower of the two, would be our Creative (natural) ability ..." Maybe someone else with more insight could answer that ... Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Anthea |
PS: btw, Anthony I did not say, "Telepathy has Purpose from point A to point B" ... If you read my post again you will notice I said, "a purposeful communication of thought from point A to point B", quite a different meaning ... perhaps I should have said "purposely send a specific thought i.e. 'Jane bring me an apple'". Hope this clears things up a bit. Anthea | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi Anthea, Thanks for the fast reply. Your right, you never said it, I did. Ya know I did it this way for artistic reasons. Since you and Scott already said the purposeful thing, I wanted to be a little different. But I still think I received your message......and maybe you just didn't see mine? Cheers, Anthony PS -- Would you say that Spirit telepathy is also possible without technology? Maybe the Pleiadian's machine has a dial on it to adjust the effect? Just maybe, once you get the hang of the machine, you might be able to do it on your own? Ya know with the symbols thing. After all, we are talking about something that deals with the spirit (and we all have one), in this kind of telepathy. Anyway, thanks for bringing up the distance factors of the two communications. I wasn't thinking of this. | ||
Anthea |
Hi Anthony, You said ... "Maybe the Pleiadian's machine has a dial on it to adjust the effect? Just maybe, once you get the hang of the machine, you might be able to do it on your own?..." You might want to ask the Plejarens about this ;) -- On a serious note; I did see your point, but for the purposes of not creating any confusion as to my exact meaning, I thought it prudent to clarify my statement a bit. Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello Anthea, For the benefit of clarity, maybe you could further explain your "...purposeful communication of thought..." about Primary telepathy for the group. I took it to mean that Primary telepathy must be just for the purpose of communication; and not about "sensing" a person's aura, or anything else for that matter. First off, I don't think the aura is only what we should be looking at here. Any waves emanating from the human being must extend far beyond the aura. What we find significant about telepathy is the great distances that it spans, covering light years. We see this in Billy's case with Spirit telepathy to Erra. So I say, why stop at the aura? To me, the aura is just a first layer of "color" in a field that must extend much, much further, perhaps into infinity. We know this because Creation is infinite. Furthermore, I would say that your "purposeful" point in its entirety would be better suited for the definition of Spiritual telepathy rather than Primary. And this is what I was trying to argue in my post. Because I think that some sort of "sensing" (or vast reaching focus) would very likely be required, especially in simpler forms of telepathy. And remember dear Anthea, I'm just reaching in the wake of my previous arguments..... Best regards, Anthony | ||
Anthea |
Hi Anthony, Hi Blerim ... Ok ok ... I think there's a misunderstanding here. I was not saying that primary telepathy is limited to the aura - in fact I think it's the opposite. Anyway - enough said - it's confusing enough. I really don't know anything about telepathy and am only sharing my own thoughts on it. I apologize for any misunderstanding. Anthea | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi Anthea and everybody, Don't know anything about telepathy? Come on, what are we doing here? A couple of days ago, I didn't have a clue about making a distinction between the two FIGU telepathy definitions (even about the dial on the telepathy machine;). But thanks to this forum, I have been able to bounce a few ideas around and learn a few things. And I would suspect, so have all of you. Confusing enough? Don't make it so. The key to the success of this discussion group is that we engage each other in communication. Personally, I look for opportunities to grab at things other people have said here and try to prove them to myself. Not only is it fun for me to assemble these thoughts and post them here, but the end result always seems to be that I've eliminated some confusion for myself. I've learned something. That's what I'm trying to get all of you to do here with me. This forum is the perfect study group (well almost;) And we can benefit by what each other has said and what we have said. So people, let's move on with it and continue with this discussion. Come on Scott, I was hoping that you would bring up again your telepathy example that you posted in this forum a while ago, the one about sending suggestions to people to get them to scratch their head. This was you right? I thought that this was very significant. I have some examples of my own to share if everyone is up to it. And Anthea: enough said? If you would, please tell us WHY you think "primary telepathy is (not) limited to the aura...it's the opposite." This might bring out some clues for ALL of us to grab at. I'd say we have come a long way in this discussion. So I start again with my original premise. Wow telepathy! I'm glad we FINALLY got to this subject in the forum. Best regards, Anthony | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, I was involved in several VERY CLEAR demonstrations of telepathy (I got on the phone & called...!) several times. After this, I KNOW (at times) when I receive thoughts from others but almost ALL the time, it is too "subtle" for me know know for sure. I was simply "crazy" enough to phone. Took a few "chances"... which changed my outlook completely! Once this occurs, one KNOWS what it is... & what it is not. One watches for it after that...! Like I said, I wish I could repeat this at will, however. Most of the time it is so "subtle", I don't know if it's me or someone else... At first, (if I remember correctly) Billy needed to learn that he was receiving telepathic communications from the Plejarans. At first he wasn't sure... This is interesting, because when he was a child, he received VERY CLEAR communications in his mind. These earliest communications perhaps were very strong, or "included" verbalization patterns in his mind. They might have been something besides telepathy as well...? My point with the above is this: I'm REALLY SURE that many of us experience primary telepathy & don't recognize it for what it is! Telepathy is NOT a conscious verbalization that include an official message saying "I'm telepathy"...! Telepathy can trigger "our own thoughts"... which have nothing to do with the "source" of the "sending". Our interpretations of these communications could be totally "out to lunch" and yet the "context" will be correct. I think that "concentration" implies the concious mind. I think that telephy involves something "beneath" the conscious mind. To learn to "still" the conscious mind continuously or "focus" or "direct" our attention for periods of time (or something?) is a beginning. I think most of listen to the radio & TV too much. When we try to be quiet, our minds "rattle" with all the stuff we continuously bombard ourselves with. I think we have to know our own minds as well. I think that "Neutral Positive thinking" is an excellent tool or method to moderate our "basic desires" & "tendencies" & much more. Everything I have read about the "FIGU/Meier/etc." information on all this makes really lots of sense... This board is a good place to be! Also, I think that if a person does all the above only with the intent of developing telepathy, something is lost. The desire will be too great. It won't happen. The desire or direction will be in the wrong place... & would bring undesireable & "strange" results. Sort of like "What NOT to do in meditation"... for you "old-timers". Experiment...? anyone? JP | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Scott... I wasn't going to "yap" on this topic, but your post seems to be directed by more than just words... Spirit... I don't think it's directly "Consiously knowable" in ANY sense we can recognize... At least not for myself. It directs us do things, however, which we think are our own desires etc. We can make choices besides... however. This is the same, sort of, with "spirit telepathy". There are NO indications... only what it does to us. It can, however, trigger all sorts of effects throughout all of our "systems". Clues...! Billy's experiences while travelling through hyperspace are interesting. I suspect that the physical (mind) etc. got "scrambled" to the point where only the spirit was left "intact"... & this "expanded / experienced" through the body/mind or whatever. While this most likely has nothing to do with spirit telepathy, it would be perhaps indicative of "pure?? spirit experience" being predominant... experienced by the body/mind??? Comments/ideas, anybody? JP | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi JP, Not so much radio and TV....I kinda know what you mean. But seriously, you make a nice point with, "...."concentration" implies the conscious mind...To learn to "still" the conscious mind continuously or "focus" or "direct" our attention for periods of time....is a beginning." Know doubt. Maybe instead of "still" the mind, I would say people need to become more familiar with their own minds. I think a lot of people never seem to find enough quiet time to spend inside their head. An honest time alone, when a person is not being bombarded by other people. Let's face it, when you're spending time around other people, much of your concentration gets dispersed; not to mention the waves you are getting from other people. Because at this time you are not focusing on just yourself, you are participating with a group (or just another person). Talk about a distraction to finding your own mind...... So let's suppose that once you find your "own world of thoughts", and become more aware of outside distractions and become a better observer, you get a funny thought inside your head. And I don't mean funny, funny...I mean something that is not part of your usual world of thoughts, at least consciously. Maybe something not even noticeable really, but it seems important to you. Hey, maybe this is a wave from someone else? And I'm not talking about aliens or anything, just a wave from one of the billions of other people here. Just maybe you picked up something from somebody else, and it came to you as one of your own thoughts? So yeah JP, I'd say we need to get ourselves still to give ourselves a chance to discover our Self. And just maybe once we can do that, we can better differentiate our thoughts and step into a more conscious form of telepathy. Best regards, Anthony It's always an experiment, JP..... | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello, Of the two tasks in telepathy, I would say sending waves is easier than receiving them; only because giving off waves is a natural thing we do everyday as we think, speak, move, or whatever. Even though we may believe our thoughts are private in our head, they exist as continuing waves that will eventually penetrate other matter with effect. Take a simple example: two people who are not telepathic are talking together and one of them is thinking the horrible idea that the other guy is ugly. Even though that person never says to the other, "....man, I can't keep thinking how damn ugly you are...", nevertheless these thoughts must be reaching this poor guy who must be feeling uncomfortable by now, and intersecting him at an unconscious level. They happen, no matter if we realize it or not. So sending in telepathy has to be just the constructive use of these natural forces, right? So really when you get right down to it, all of us are already sending waves telepathic in nature. So why not try and put this to some good use? Regards, Anthony | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Now this brings me to an interesting experiment that is easy enough for anybody to try at home or in their car. Most everyone has driven a two lane highway in their car at one point or another in their life. Right? In the USA, slower drivers are required to stay in the right lane. This makes it possible for the faster drivers to get by using the left lane. Even though everyone must have this rule in the back of their head somewhere, a lot of people ignore it and drive wherever. Now how many of you have gotten behind one of these slower cars that should be moving over? So instead of flashing your headlights like a lot of other drivers do, signaling the car ahead to move over, why not next time try sending them a (polite;) telepathic message to move over? Realizing that this message will probably only reach their subconscious, and go unnoticed, perhaps it will be forceful enough to create a subconscious reaction in the other person? In this case, asking them to move over to the left lane. Obviously, this can be an unreliable experiment since more aware drivers will look in their rear view mirror and get the hint to move over. Nevertheless, there are opportunities to catch drivers not focusing; or perhaps just the opposite, really focusing on what they are doing. And from my observations, this makes a big difference. First off, you might want to get as much information about the event as you can. For instance, is the person busy talking on a cell phone? Is the person busy talking to other people in the car? Is the driver trying to pass up another car? Is there room for the driver to move over? Try to get as many clues as you can before the experiment to choose a good environment. Obviously if the driver is busy doing something in the car or appears to have a driving plan, it makes sense that this person is already concentrating on something; and this would make it much more difficult for them to notice or subconsciously react to your small impulses, out of the countless waves this person must already be intersecting with from everything else around him. So from my observation, you need to choose a situation where the driver appears to be daydreaming, and not doing something else. And there are a lot of these drivers, believe me Now what? How do you suggest (...remember each person has a free will to do as they please...) to someone to move over using only thoughts? What about imagination and visualization; they must be part of our brain waves? Why not try using them? What about visualizing a color in your mind -- the color red seems to create a cautionary condition? People use this color on fire trucks and for stop lights, so people are somewhat conditioned to this color. Why not try simply focusing on this color for a moment, picturing it, and at the same time looking (making a connection) at the driver ahead? You might go one step further and focus on the word, "left", for a moment; perhaps even picturing these letters in red? And do this all while you are concentrating on the driver ahead. Remember, your goal is only to assemble some thoughts, and then concentrate on them while looking at the other person, nothing more. And I would suspect the "artistic freedom" that Primary telepathy allows, would enable everybody to create their own individual message as long as you were using familiar symbols (colors, words, etc,.) So there would be no precise message that you would have to send; and everyone might be able to use their own creativity. The key here being concentration and familiarity, not the actual message. Does this work? Not always. But there seems to be a predominate number of successes when the conditions of the experiment are met -- that being strong concentration on your part, and a lack of it on the part of the person you are sending thoughts to. Also, remember that you always want to be nuetral-positive in your messages, not negative or demanding. When you really think about it, what you're doing is not much different than actually talking to them. So remember to send a telepathic "thank you" when the other driver has enough courtesy to move over for you..... | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Anthony This reminds of experiments that I have tried on my own with some success. Many times when I am in a public place and can find a place to sit and be quiet for a few minutes. I have been able to send out mental suggestions to people with fairly good success. I have found that I have to be in a fairly relaxed state of mind and have to sort of sense whether I can connect with that person or not. If I can get in the right state of mind I will mentally ask that person to please scratch their head with their left arm for instance. What is really weird about this is when you do connect with that person, for an instant you will feel one with them, at that point I usually have fairly good success planting a suggestion. I know that it works! Another way to do this is to experiment with animals. I have been able to silence barking dogs in the middle of the night by imagining a cloud or mist settling down around the animal which causes him to calm down and stop barking. There are more examples that I have demonstrated to myself which have worked. Thanks for bringing this up, I had sorta forgotten about some of this! Salome Scott | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, One of the demonstrations which I experienced was with a local "teacher"... We each took turns doing this: We were taken outside the room where the other students were. They were to pick a topic & try to send a simple concept of this topic to the one person outside the room. When it was myself to be "outside the room", I received "impressions" of various sorts. I could go into details... but that is another story. The results of this changed much of my thinking on all this stuff, and what is "information" & what is not. What amazed me was that I did not know what they were trying to send, although I received much information "around" or "about it". We are easily mislead by the information we receive ! Also, after reading the above posts on the differences between "auric communication" & telepathy, I'm now not sure exactly what type of info I was receiveing! Fascinating, either way! JP | ||
E. Visser |
Hi all. I've often read that Mr Meier has telepathic contact with the Plejarens as well as face to face.I'm wondering about something.In the contact notes channeling is mostly perhaps exclusively labeled as a hoax or mental defect on the part of the so-called receiver.My question is,what is the difference between telepathic contact and channeling? Thx, TerraX. | ||
JAY |
TerraX..... good question for the next round of Questions to Mr Meier | ||
Lars |
Hi TerraX, I know the difference between telepathic contact and channeling, First telepathic contact if it be genuine, is a legitimate mental link with two minds, that can recieve definite interchange between them in symbols, words or sounds, it is a communication that is definitely percieved and felt. it leaves a definite impression that can be described. Whereas "Channeling" is done mostly by intuition and imagination, where there is little if any mental rapport with another. it is all imagined and made up or in rare cases some spirits from the other-side will communicate, in that case the channeled telepathy will be genuine and contain definite symbols and words which are definitely seen and heard by the recipient. Most channeling is imagined fantasy contrived through other peoples material, then elaborated on with their own desires and fantasies.... Only the person reciving telepathy knows if it is definitely occurring or not. Salome, Lars | ||
E. Visser |
Hi Lars and all. Let me first say that I'm no expert when it comes to telepathy or channeling but when I think of those methods of communication they seem to be working on the same principle.That's why I asked what the difference is between those two.The problem is that there seems to be no tangible clues as how to decide what is genuine and what is imagined.If you say that channelors imagine there contact,it could be.I have no means to conclude either way.The same can be said of telepathy.I think it comes down to the eye of the beholder. Thx, TerraX. | ||
Lars |
TerraX, That sounds correct. But I would conclude by reiterating that real telepathy is a communication that is unimagined and occurs in real time, with real live communication, which can be described. whereas with just channeling it is all conjured up by someone's own imagination ,wishes, and desires. Billy wrote an article called, An important word concerning the occult forces and meditation his writing explains how persons get decieved by channeling, by creating living thoughtforms which then lie, and contrive stories to capture and control the individual. It is a timely work, and it should be in the library of every serious student of the occult laws. Regards, Lars | ||
Linda |
Hi Lars and TerraX, Lars, calling "chanelled telepathy", yet distinguishing between the two forms of commuication, is a perfect oxymoron. And, I think, while that naming might have been inadvertent on your part, it's probably right on. As examples, Billy returned home after the 251st contact and wrote volumes of words from that encounter, apparently receiving a Plejaren "telepathic dictation," if you will. Others have experienced "automatic writing." Edgar Cayce experienced his own kind of telepathic receptiveness and was able to help cure hundreds of people in a receptive sleep state, and "channelled," if you will, cures for many. Linda | ||
amy mccrary |
I have been receiving alot of messages, very clearly, only usually not while I'm meditating. It all started in Sept. 2002. up until that point I had never meditated, channeled, nothing... My husband of 15 yrs also had never had any kind of psychic encounters. He didn't even believe in God. Now were both receiving messages and visions. Have all kinds of images appearing in our mirror (16 rolls of film to prove it) "they told us to get a computer." Now we have these images on the photos we print out of the computer. Now I see Auras, 2 days ago something very freaky happened. All of a sudden everything in my room looks like a Vangogh painting. I could "see" air (looks like smoke only clear) the walls were no longer solid, they were moving,everything is curvy; with graph lines thru it (only not straight) the walls blended with the air, everything is connected and moving...sorry I know this sounds nuts, trying to describe it best I can. Looked like Van Gogh only moving.Been having visions of UFOS. (which I believe in having seen as a kid). My husband is also having visions of red UFOS turn purple. He didn't believe till all this started. we're waiting to see what happens next. If anyone knows what the heck any of this means; I would appreciate your feedback. thanks Amy & Ed | ||
JPLagasse |
Hi Amy, What you describe sounds like both you & your husband might be experiencing some sort of "poisoning" which is affecting your minds??? Some forms of molds/fungus(?) etc. can do some really bizarre "stuff" to us. Whatever the real source of your experiences, it can't hurt to check this out. Perhaps talk with your neighbours, anyone else living in/visiting your home etc. to see if they are experiencing "strange mental effects" also??? Watch for anything similar (but not necessarily identical) to what you are both experiencing. Just a thought... Regards, JP | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings JP and Amy, JP, I would not go so far as to say that what Amy and her husband Ed are experiencing would be from poinsoning from molds or fungus sense this does not cause strange images to be photographed in mirrors, however what it could be is "thought forms" directed at them or by them which can be photographed in mirrors. Creating thought forms is not hard to do if you know what you're doing and how to focus or hold an image in your mind. This is a common practice in the Philippines which actually has some simularities to Billy's and some Tibetan type meditations. Mirrors are actually used as scrying tools to do this along with a candle. The thought forms are then made to take on a life of their own. Hope this helps, James the truthseeker | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings JP and Amy, JP, I would not go so far as to say that what Amy and her husband Ed are experiencing would be from poinsoning from molds or fungus sense this does not cause strange images to be photographed in mirrors, however what it could be is "thought forms" directed at them or by them which can be photographed in mirrors. Creating thought forms is not hard to do if you know what you're doing and how to focus or hold an image in your mind. This is a common practice in the Philippines which actually has some simularities to Billy's and some Tibetan type meditations. Mirrors are actually used as scrying tools to do this along with a candle. The thought forms are then made to take on a life of their own. Hope this helps, James the truthseeker | ||
pureharmony |
Regarding geomagnetic effects to biological systems- will HAARP affect our abilities of telepathy thereby slowing our evolution? After reading this study, you could come to this conclusion.... Geomagnetic field perturbations have been reported to affect biological systems by other investigators (e.g., Subrahmanyam, Sanker Narayan, & Srinivasan, 1985). Persinger (1989) has proposed two interpretations of the geomagnetic field effect. The first is that psi is a geomagnetic field correlate; solar disturbances and consequent geomagnetic storms affect this correlate. The second is that the geomagnetic field affects brain receptivity to psi, which remains constant. In the latter interpretation, psi is always present in space and time, waiting to be accessed by crisis, emotion, or by optimal laboratory stimulus parameters. Geomagnetic activity may affect the detection capacity of the brain for this information, especially the neural pathways that facilitate the consolidation and conscious access to this information. Without this geomagnetic activity, awareness of the psi stimulus might not be as likely and the brain's "latent reserve capacities" would not be utilized. Taking this argument one step further, Persinger (1989) points out that deep temporal lobe activity exists in equilibrium with the global geomagnetic condition. When there is a sudden decrease in geomagnetic activity, there appears to be an enhancement of processes that facilitate psi reception, especially telepathy and clairvoyance. Source: http://www.goertzel.org/dynapsyc/1996/stan.htm |
