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Mehraein62
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 10:36 pm: | 
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Robjna
(If I was you, I would meditate on the pineal gland to improve your telepathic control?)
how someone can approach to it? do you have any advice or teaching to me? also glade to hear personal success if not mind.
Edward,
thanks, interesting talks, but i wonder if anybody can have telepathic exchange or relation very consciously and at any time with others? do U have any experiences?
Salome
M45
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Stafath
Member
Post Number: 38
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 12:39 am: |
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Hi Indi,
Thanks for suggestion. I'll start with the meditating more on pineal gland then.  |
Socrates
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 03:31 am: |
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I've done telepathy before and it's more of like an impulse you get. A sudden knowing of what someone else is thinking. It's interesting how it works and I haven't fully figured it out yet but I think you can tune into certain people to receive their thoughts, other times though it comes out of nowhere if you are open to receive (but maybe this is channeling?). I also see in my mind's eye what is about to happen a few seconds or minutes before it does, I wonder if I create it to happen or if I'm seeing briefly into the future. Meditation helps out tremendously with the development of psychic abilities for it allows you to retrieve the knowledge contained within you that you have already learned, but forgotten. This is only just the surface though for there are many more interesting things you can do as you increase your meditation practice.
The best metaphor that I know of for how the human mind works with telepathy is to use the computer for it too has telepathic abilities (Wi-Fi) which send out broadcast signals about itself so that other computers can receive these signals to make a connection by transferring information back and forth. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1082
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 06:46 am: |
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Hi Stafath and Mehraein...
Stafath: well, I would also recommend what Robjna mentioned, but indeed, as
Syn said, for you to not jump ahead of yourself! Spiritual Telepathy consists
of Symbols, which is not possible/accessible for you(we on Earth are too low
evolved). Thus, direct your self towards the 'primary telepathy', if you will.
Mehraein: Well, it would indeed be possible. Such occurrence would mostly
manifest with Loved Ones...and so on. And if you practice....with just one
certain person...for a length of time, there would indeed be the possibility
for Conscious Transmissions. This has also been scientifically proven.
Pleasant Transmitting...
Edward. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1443
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 07:46 am: |
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Hello,
I was under the impression when primary telepathy was used the receiver actually heard a type of audio impression within himself? Here is a definition posted early in the forum regarding primary telepathy.
1. Primary Telepathy (normal telepathy) – A process achieved at the normal speed of light: A life form capable of telepathy may receive in its consciousness thoughts and words or actual images as an "inner voice" (impulses, words or actual images), or it may send its own telepathic message to other life forms without requiring the application of the audible voice.
Scott |
Pledja
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 11:43 am: |
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Hi all!
I think the only way to develop spiritual Telepathy is by acessing the storage banks.Ive been gaining quite some info on this lately.Accessing the storage banks has something to do with Being aware as you "sleep".This is all from personal experiences,As i sleep i sometimes wake up instantly and thoughts are running crazily through my mind!Ive learned how to remember some of these thoughts which some are actual Question and answers and the answer is always correct after i research it.My next step is controlling the questions,Meditation is the way to master it
Pledja |
Stafath
Member
Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 04:53 am: |
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Hi Pledja,
NOW, THAT! Explains why I sometimes (it very rarely happens) when I'm trying to fall asleep in me bed on the back side and not the stomach side, then at one point I think I'm sleeping already but I don't and then I realize that thoughts are running crazily throught my mind and then I wake up and I try to continue with the sleeping on the stomach side. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1083
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 08:31 am: |
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Hi Mehraein.....
What I used to do with the guys back in the mid 70ties(martial arts related),
was sit across each other, someone and me, and we would - Face Slap -. Sitting
across each other, with our hand palms flat on the table. And give each other
turns to try and slap our face. And this, you can do in three ways, is from my
expediences.[because I used to be the fastest from all of them]
1) Just plain old Physically: which is just reacting to the action of the
person, trying to slap you.
The above mentioned, is a very slow processing, because, you see the hand
coming=1, than your mind has to process it=2, and last but not least: you have
to react back, and block the incoming hand palm=3. And if the other hand comes
up, you have to process that one also!
2) Through sensing his...vibrations/impluses through the Thought(telepathy)
processing/transmitting.
The above mentioned, is very fast..because you only have to sense the
vibrations a coming, and block the incoming hand palm. And at this time, you
can/will react even 'before' the opponent's hand palm lifts itself from the
table!
3) Making One's Mind clear, thus, into a - Unconscious - state of mind, if you
will. And let the senses of - Reflex - do it's work.
The above mentioned, is just as fast, because you only have to react/sense in
a 'Reflex' fashion, from an Unconscious state of mind. And take it from me:
this is quite fast!
So, perhaps the above mentioned can be very positive tips...for you?
Pleasant Slapping.....
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1084
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 08:52 am: |
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Hi Scott...
You are partial correct. I just looked in Guido's Book, and he does speak of
audio(thought currents vibrates as intermittent impulses), but not of 'images'
as you mentioned!
Images, or Symbols, if you will...he only describes in Spiritual Telepathy
(Plejaran level)...and not in Primary Telepathy.
Thus, either what you posted is error, or what Guido described in his book?
If you have any other clarification?
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1085
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 09:08 am: |
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Hi Scott....
Yes, of course, I understand your point. If one would be transmitting
'images'(drawing or an object or what ever else, in front of him/her), which
is not stated in Guido's book, but I was referring more in the direction of
just - Thought - transmission/processing. Not image/object related.
[example new post to Mehraein - Face Slapping]
So, Guido just left the above mentioned out.
And concerning the Symbols: I was referring to that within the framework of
Spiritual Telepathy.[Plejaran level]
Edward. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1446
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 09:54 pm: |
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Hi Edward,
I took that definition from an earlier post by one of the early forum moderators...thanks for your response.
Regards
Scott |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 144
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 06:59 pm: |
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Greetings to All In Peace,
Permit me to toss in a few coins here, in reference to the pineal gland and also telepathy.
There is a Reptile with a third eye:
The Tuatara (Sphenodon punctatus) is the sole survivor of a group of reptiles that have existed for 200 million years. It is found only on some small islands of New Zealand and is endangered.
The Tuatara's most fascinating feature is its third or pineal ‘eye’. This occurs in many species of lizard too. It is visible in hatchlings, but is covered with scales after 4-6 months. This reason for this 3rd ‘eye’ is not known but it is thought to be useful in absorbing ultraviolet rays to manufacture vitamin D. {source: panda.org}
The tuatara has a third eye on the top of its head called the parietal eye. It has its own lens, cornea, retina with rod-like structures and degenerated nerve connection to the brain, suggesting it evolved from a real eye.
The parietal eye is part of the pineal complex, another part of which is the pineal gland, which in tuatara secretes melatonin at night. {source: Wikipedia.org}.
In Humans also, as well as other mammals, The Pineal also produces Melatonin, mostly after sundown to prepare us to enter the sleep state. In the young Humans, the pineal is most active. After puberty, the pineal slowly starts to shrink, producing less melatonin. After about age 40, the melatonin production is quite low. To enhance the continued production, it is helpful to supplement the diet with L-Tryptophan (1,000-Mg) and vitamin B-6 (20-Mg), or eat lots of turkey.
From the foregoing, there is biological evidence the pineal is capable of processing optical information to some degree. In meditation, when there is first a suggestion from the Consciousness to seek answers, as a quest for enlightenment, for growth in spiritual awareness, the Pineal my become active in presenting vivid images through the "Third Eye" = the "Minds Eye". With repeated meditation practice, the Pineal becomes stronger and more active. One then may become aware of flashes of intuition presented in visual form, and also find occurrences of spontaneous telepathy. Once this "door" has been opened, with continued meditation, these natural abilities will continue to grow stronger.
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Stafath
Member
Post Number: 40
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 07:19 pm: |
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Taken from post of Phi_spiral in "ET Intervention on Earth" Topic.
"In one of the contact notes, Billy is shown a device inside the Plejaren ship that can actually read the conscious and the subconscious mind. Semjase explained that the subconscious mind contains information about your future because the future you are creating for yourself is being created all the time in your subconscious mind and your conscious mind is not aware of it. Although we speak about taking responsibility for ourselves, apparently we are doing it all the time even without our awareness. Our subconscious mind is at all times creating a future; i.e. it is making plans for what it wants to do, what ’you’ want to do, and your conscious mind gets the impulses later from the subconscious when it’s time to do something."
Not sure where this post should go but.. I think I had a really good go at watching my future (some little parts of it) . After I had watched some random parts of my future what all felt so real, at one day I suddenly remembered that I had a strange dream when I was alot younger. I recalled the dream and watched it again (by meditatating) and I felt really wierd after watching that, like its going to happen (all the visions I watched made the same feeling) and at same time had urge to laught.
Now the details of the dream I once saw: I saw switzerland's land of grass and trees (I think) and a one blond haired Plejaren female in spacesuit in front of me watching to the left where another blond haired Plejaren female in spacesuit came and then said something to the Plejaren female who was standing in front of me and somehow I burst out laughting out loud but the Plejarens didn't seem to get the joke but me laught on ..this is the wierdest vison/dream because of the laught part.
What I felt with these visions and this dream are emotions and surroundings but no sound, just feeling of the things around you and yourself near those things what all seem to be very real.
Future I saw of meself is definitely going to happen in space and me being naturally very muscular who looks even more Conan than Arnold Schwarzenegger.  And I also had a vision what should be taking place in somewhere 2500 and I still felt young in that vision. That vision tells me that I'll be living OVER 500 YEARS OLD AND EVEN FURTHER!!
And all those visions I had came out of nowhere that means I did not make anything up. |
Thomas
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Post Number: 479
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 02:00 am: |
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Hello Stafath, I hope that you don't take this badly or with harmful intent, but I felt the need to address your dreams etc. In my opinion, and it is nothing more than my opinion, you are dangerously close to self-delusion if you are not more careful to avoid believing that your dreams in this case are anything more than imaginations. It is my LIMITED understanding that we average Earth humans cannot send their consciousness wandering and that, even though our dreams can be gateways to the consciousness power only whime we sleep. That being said, I find it highly improbably that you would have projected your consciousness to one of the contacts with Semjase since she would have likely sensed your presence, either on her own or with their highly developed technologies. This is not to poke at you or to attack you, but it seems to me that you have some delusions about what is real and what is not. I have held my tongue because it is not my business on one hand, but on the other hand, if one sees someone harming themselves, then it is one's duty as a human being to at least point that out so the person that could be harmed has the ability to at least look at the situation more closely. With respect and best wishes, Thomas |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1447
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 03:51 am: |
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Hello J_Rod,
You stated "In meditation, when there is first a suggestion from the Consciousness to seek answers, as a quest for enlightenment, for growth in spiritual awareness, the Pineal my become active in presenting vivid images through the "Third Eye" = the "Minds Eye". With repeated meditation practice, the Pineal becomes stronger and more active. One then may become aware of flashes of intuition presented in visual form, and also find occurrences of spontaneous telepathy. Once this "door" has been opened, with continued meditation, these natural abilities will continue to grow stronger."
How do you know this? I think we have to be careful when we start to define what "Enlightenment" really is. If you consider Billy to be "enlightened", what does that exactly mean? Although you didn't use the word Nirvana, it sounds similar to the concept you are trying to relate. If this is the case, Nirvana or "Enlightenment" does not exist, but is wishful thinking or fantasy.
Regards
Scott |
Pledja
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 04:41 am: |
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Hi Thomas
I agree with most of the above post.But Ive Been to the future in my dreams.It happens ever so often i see what happens in my dreams then the next day it happens exactly like it happen in the dream though i become aware and can change the story line a little bit
I agree with what the plejaren say about the Subconscious already knowing the future from first hand experiences its a matter of tuning into the sub, This explains Deja-Vu. |
Stafath
Member
Post Number: 41
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 06:21 am: |
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Hi Thomas,
I understand you. I'll be more careful then.
But still.. I'm going to shape my future myself and that starts with letting me 16 year old body grow up here on earth and developeing my spirituality and its abilities higher and the future what I can also make for meself on earth is this conan thing. After all that big step. I WILL start looking for a way to the space and I don't care if you guys here or Billy, Plejarens, other aliens don't like it but I'm going after the thing what I really feel I should do.
Okay now back to the topic - Meditating on the pineal gland has really helped my telepathic abilities to go further. By the way.. I hear you guys have mentioned that if the pineal gland's powers are strong enought then there's ability to create food out of nowhere? |
Incredible
Member
Post Number: 139
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 11:44 am: |
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My brother that sometimes sees entities, saw the entities not through the eyes, he sees the entities and other phenomenon through something as an antenna in his brain. Is as if some part of the brain function as an antenna.
"we born to die and we die to born"
"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her"
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 14
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 02:26 pm: |
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Stafath there is no easy way to say this:
it can be dangerous to have thoughts during a meditation, and quite frankly you can do damage to yourself that can be irreversable.
also you need to master concentration before starting to meditate, and that can take years.
Any interest in concentration, or meditation should be kept within the confines of "Einführung zur Einführung in die Meditation" and "Die Psyche" as a start both of which you will have to learn German to read.
Since you are still young reapply your energies and interests into learning German for the time being. You have lots of time to learn the lanquage so at a future date you can read the pamphlets and books on the topic...
Don't get me wrong, it's good to have an interest in Meditation however it should be done following Billy's advices for good reasons or not pursued at all. Billy has recommended that several times.
I wish you safety which is why im speaking out, furthermore I'm not trying to cut you down in any way but say this out of friendship.
Corey |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 06:59 pm: |
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Scott,
Let's see if I can shed some light to clear up your confusion here. Where I have written (in context), as an approach to meditation involving visualization and the pineal (as the POINT of discussion is a biological precedent of the pineal capabilities) ..:
"...a suggestion from the Consciousness to seek answers, as a quest for enlightenment, for growth in spiritual awareness..."
Where then you pick one extraneous word, which does digress from the meaning of the post...:
>> "I think we have to be careful when we start to define what "Enlightenment" really is.... Although you didn't use the word Nirvana, it sounds similar to the concept..." <<
Since I DID NOT attempt to "DEFINE" the term, for your enlightenment then, allow this quote from: {The New Lexicon Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary of the English Language}...:
"ENLIGHTEN (v.t.) [ To give (someone) information about, or help him to understand, what is obscure or difficult ][ to shed light on (a problem) ][ to civilize by freeing from ignorance, superstition, etc. ][ to give spiritual light to ] ENLIGHTENMENT (n.) [ An enlightening or being enlightened ][ something which enlightens ]
How you can make the leap in your convoluted logic from "a quest for enlightenment" to an implication in your reference to "Nirvana", flies sideways in light of the definition. Please enlighten me as what you REALLY mean to say here. No Fantasies either, based in sound logic, if you would.
Regards
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J_rod7
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1449
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 08:31 pm: |
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Hi J rod
Let me state this simply.
You made multiple statements in your original post.
My first statement to you was how do know this.
How do you know “With repeated meditation practice, the Pineal becomes stronger and more active.”? What meditation practice are you talking about?
How do you know “One then may become aware of flashes of intuition presented in visual form, and also find occurrences of spontaneous telepathy. Once this "door" has been opened, with continued meditation, these natural abilities will continue to grow stronger." Again I ask what meditation practice are you talking about?
My reference to the word enlightenment was used in the context, which you presented it, which had to do with spiritual awareness. Since you are versed in these terms, it stands to reason you use them as many people have done in the past to state a level of spiritual development. If you are using this word in that context I asked you do you believe Billy is “enlightened”…I then qualified my statement with regards to nirvana stating “if this is the case….” So please don’t say my logic is convoluted.
The intent of my questions were in regards to how do you know what you stated? I don’t know if can make that any more straight forward do you?
Scott |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 147
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:42 am: |
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Hello Scott,
> "...how do you know..(?)"
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
Peace
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J_rod7
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1450
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 12:31 pm: |
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Hello J rod,
Thank you. Just curious, what form of meditation did you use? Was it what Billy has taught, or is it a variation?
Regards
Scott |
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