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    J_rod7 Member Post Number: 270 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hey Jay, We don't live in the past, we learn from the past. We live in the HERE AND NOW. This should be obvious, and it is to most of us here. Hopefully, the lessons from the past allow us to avoid the same errors and mistakes over and over. Once THOSE lessons are learned, then we go forward. I would advise you to not get caught up in the illusions of life. As Shakespeare one wrote: "All of Life is a stage, whereon we all play our parts." How the parts are played determines the next part as we Spirits continue the process of Evolution. I also have recorded memories of certain of my past lives. All of them were rather mundane, never a Napoleon or a conquering hero. But the lessons from those lives have enabled me to make progress in this life. Most are very personal, and I don't choose to stand on a soapbox attempting to get everyone's attention about them. I did learn how to overcome FEAR. I can tell you that I also no longer have any fear of death, having seen my own deaths and transitions already. And I learned that FORGIVENESS is essential to LOVE, among other important (to me) lessons. The meaning of life is to find joy in the living. See that your path is lighted ahead of you. Salome Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 37 Registered: 06-2008 |
J_rod7 i shouldn't say this and i can tell YOU know why but, one of my lessons i will be learning in the next life (lives) is ego suppression. Peace in Wisdom Jay "if a central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 271 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hey Jay, The lessons of life may take a lifetime to master. In some certain cases, however, lessons may be be learned in a profound Flash of Intuition. An insight which comes like lightning, in which new neural pathways are made, a paradigm shift of the psyche. The lessons of Ego 'suppression' are already those in which your subconscious mind is engaged in THIS lifetime. That this has now come into your conscious awareness, is the 'sign' for you. This is a concern of anyone involved in advancement of personal Spiritual Evolution. The Ego is a source of tremendous energy, meant to protect and sustain us as we traverse through the social order. Therefore, rather than 'suppression', the objective is to re-direct this energy into directions which continue to nourish the psyche. One such direction for this energy is into ALTRUISM. Altruism is to be engaged in thoughts and actions for other people without consideration of the self. Example is to be engaged in doing good deeds or works for others without expecting 'reward'. Doing something 'nice' for someone without letting them know that it comes from you. I'm sure you can think of additional ways to practice altruism. I think you may find something in Billy's words that will resonate with you here...: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Philosophy_of_Life A VERY interesting discussion on the mental Fluidal Forces is found here...: http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash94/The_Mental_Fluidal_Forces.pdf Salome Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 52 Registered: 06-2008 |
j_rod7, yo, i got that flash of intuition and i'm balancing myself a little better now. i can tell u care for your fellow human beings and thanks for the articles. it actually sucks to me because if u have read every single post under JPM, it is obvious that i am not playing games on this forum claiming i am Pelegon when i am not. but who the hell will believe me anyway? the universe must be completely pointless....... i work my ass off for 12 billion years and noone can even admit to my face that i was this guy Pelegon ?? why should i even stay on this frickin forum, what is the point, i know all this stuff already. i am trying not to curse out of respect for this forum, but, this is the most utterly ridiculous experience i have ever had in my life. i have bugged my parents everyday for 3 years trying to get them to be spiritual and all they tell me is a semi-sarcastic "i'll try" if u think i am the one who is playing games on this forum u are wrong. i think it's most of the jokers on here that are playing the games with me... "if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 04-2007 |
I sense a cult brewing... JPM are you serious, if you were JHSW(w/e its spelt) or pelegon or all that bs then why are you so damn eager to get ppl to think your higher level then them. Seriously think about it. If you were so spiritual then first off you wouldnt say "i work my ass off". Look at all the ppl who are spiritual. Have you ever heard them swear. with the exception of billy being asked about aliens taking over the world he said that was bullshit. JPM another thing i want to point out. If you were more spiritual then why the hell are you wasting time telling ppl that your this awesome spiritual person when you can out and actually inform ppl slowly that there is life out there and tat sprituality is the way to go just like billy just not to that degree. Another side note you dont FORCE ppl to be more spiritual you give them bits of info and they need to do the research right there it shows that you are...hehe...clearly not what you say. But dont listen to me i was ridiculed and sent to a mental institute and almost exiled from most of my failmy members because im crazy. JPM, you need to wake the hell and realize what you are saying is a big fat joke. And No one(i hope no one) is actualy taking you seriously because of what you say and how you forward this. I suggest you stop going on the internet and really think on what you are doing and analyze those thoughts and why they were fabricated and what you are feeling. Im giving you the sledgehammer go ahead and ask billy what he thinks you are, he will give you the 20 ton sledgehammer. He did in the past you will not be different. **PS**Moderators please post this. This guy needs a wake up call or something. I know you can edit/delete the ps part if you do want to post this.Do so if you would like. They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 55 Registered: 06-2008 |
We'll see. "if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 05-2008 |
Jpm, why are you in need of your spirit form being recognized as 'Pelegon' in some past life? | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 414 Registered: 12-2004 |
Guys, can you please continue this off the forum? exchange emails or something. This forum is not a place to discuss this. Salome, Badr | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 97 Registered: 03-2008 |
Is fine matter, the composition of the spirit if I'm not mistaken, the same as energy. As I remember from Randy Winters' movies, or something like that, the Plejaren warned us about the atomic bomb not to use it anymore because of the energy waves it emits somehow affects the spirit or the fine matter.(or I might have it totally wrong) If fine matter(spirit) is the same as energies...than it can be scientifically recognized and calculated just as Billy said. This is just an idea and shows how well-informed I am on the teachings of Billy Meier(apparently I don't know much) Adrian. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1517 Registered: 12-1999 |
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J_rod7 Member Post Number: 278 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hello Adrian, and to All - Salome, Randy Winters may not have all his "ducks in a row", if you know what I mean. Neither the Spirit nor the Spirit-Energy can be destroyed. I have found some relevant information. This is from...: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_033 > "Therefore you speak, for example, of a "spiritual blockade" which is absolutely illusory because the spirit can neither be blocked nor attacked, because, with this, it concerns a pure creational energy which is absolutely immune from any attack from the side of the human, consequently the spirit can also not become ill from "spiritual illness". "This is only possible with the material consciousness because only this can be damaged or become sick, and so forth, never, however, the spirit in the human because this is of pure creational nature and is inviolable." < And this is from...: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_059 > "Every spirit-energy which is determined in order to enliven some sort of life-form - whereby not only humans, animals and all creatures up to the microbes, bacteria and viruses, and so forth, are life-forms, rather also rocks, stones, sand and water, and so forth, which belong to the vicissitude of coming about and passing away - is creational-spirit-energetic and is endowed, according to creational laws, with its own granted intelligence through which the form of the living being, respectively, the life-form, is determined and steered. "However the autonomous intelligence always remains dependent on the energy and power of the spirit because the consciousness also can only be enlivened by this spirit-energy and spirit-power." < Therefore, from this, your thinking is correct that the Spirit and the Spirit-energy may be considered the same. The BIG concern with the use of nuclear weapons, is MURDER on a massive scale. This concerns not only the immediate deaths (in horrifying ways, as I have read accounts published within a decade after those bombs on Japan), but also the prolonged deaths for years after due to the radiation, isotopes and effects on innocents at great distances from the nuclear explosions. A war in which such weapons were to be used, could kill as much as 90-percent of all life-forms, make the Earth mostly desolate for many years. Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 233 Registered: 06-2006 |
Is fine matter, the composition of the spirit if I'm not mistaken, the same as energy. As I remember from Randy Winters' movies, or something like that, the Plejaren warned us about the atomic bomb not to use it anymore because of the energy waves it emits somehow affects the spirit or the fine matter.(or I might have it totally wrong) If fine matter(spirit) is the same as energies...than it can be scientifically recognized and calculated just as Billy said. Hi Adrian Below is my understanding of the teachings. Fine-matter energies pertain to thoughts and feelings that arise from consciousness -- and are called fluidal forces. There are fine-material electromagnetic fields surrounding us, and they are normal, earthly, and are perceived by the 7th sense which, according to Billy happens via the active pineal gland, and is called Empfindung as opposed to Gefühle, which is feelings that come from the psyche perception. He mentions that our technical equipment still cannot pick these up but that it is not far away. So, there is a coarse and fine-material realm, which we traverse using all 5 coarse material and the 6th senses and hopefully, if we have progressed with our efforts, the 7th sense. Billy describes 'Super-fine-matter' (Superfeinstoffsinnliche)as belonging to the spiritual realm. (see SB 38)And, the spirit is of the spiritual realm. The human spirit is made up of absolutely neutral energy ie., +ve/-ve balance. Also, the spiritform is a tiny piece of pure creational energy which has a completely unique spiritual electromagnetic vibration and not verifiable with our technical equipment. (Flugreisen p. 326) Also, it travels at a much faster speed than material energy at 10^7000 times lightspeed (I hope that is correct!) which is much faster than the fine-matter energy/fluidal forces. Therefore, based on these things mentioned above, spirit energy is not the same as any of the material energies, fine or coarse. Robjna | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 57 Registered: 06-2008 |
El Gibbor El Shaddai El Elyon El Olam JHWH Wlohim Adonai JHWH JHWH Sabaoth (Or does this name refer to Jehova Zeboath?) JHWH Jireh JHWH Nissi JHWH Shalom JHWH Pelegon JHWH Raah/Rohi JHWH Tsidkenu JHWH Shamma JHWH Rapha Jehova M'Kaddesh JHWH Kalatan (Is this the name of the JHWH when Jmmanuel walked among the people of the Earth?) Does Earth have an JHWH now? Does anyone know anything about this? i am doing some research about jhwh's. i have 2 questions if someone can help me. where did username "Inger" get these names from ? i could not find any source for this odd information. can anyone add to this list with certainty other jhwh names ? "if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 03-2008 |
If you search the name Pelegon...JPM the only similar name I saw was at the beginning of the electronic TJ where there are plenty of names of people from the time where, it is said, Semjasa(the celestial son and the guardian angel of god, a.k.a ET) begot Adam. After many generations there is a name that comes up: "30. Eber begot Peleg 31. Peleg begot Regu" Adrian. | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 356 Registered: 06-2005 |
JPM, in response to your post above, the names you mentioned are not in the TJ as you thought. These names when translated from Hebrew actually correspond to one word 'god' and his mightiness(?) meaning god the brave, god of my bosom, ...above all else,... of the world, etc. and then the word 'shalom' means Peace, but when combined with the word 'JHWH' shalom then this is completely and clearly a deliberate distortion of the truth. Salome, | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 06-2008 |
I agree with you Melli... Clearly the JHWH's of our earth weren't as peaceful as the religious fanaticals think they are/were... It is just a damn shame that these fanaticals aren't yet motivated to strive for much truth in their life/lives by following the creational laws and spirit teachings. salome "if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - Jay (Jpm) | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 688 Registered: 06-2000 |
It's my opinion that the ancient fire-god Pele was either Pelegon , or his subordinate who elaborated over the distillation of his cauphe' . The extraction of lava rock for domestic use was possibly of his attention ; though at this point only an estimation . MC Mark Campbell | ||
Pureharmony Member Post Number: 128 Registered: 08-2002 |
It is possible Mark. However, my Hawaiian friends tell me Pele was female referring to her as "madame Pele". The legend says Pele "descended from the supreme beings" so it is an interesting correlation you make. *pureharmony* | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 73 Registered: 06-2008 |
Pureharmony wrote: It is possible Mark. However, my Hawaiian friends tell me Pele was female referring to her as "madame Pele". The legend says Pele "descended from the supreme beings" so it is an interesting correlation you make. The real Pelegon was a male and was recognizable as such . . . Jpm has dedicated his life to his neutral-positive spirit consciousness... | ||
Pureharmony Member Post Number: 129 Registered: 08-2002 |
Jpm, You are arrogant and egotistical. You're not Pelegon. This is getting ridiculous. We're here to discuss the Meier material and this thread is getting off topic. We're not here to stroke your ego. *pureharmony* | ||
Jpm Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 06-2008 |
Pureharmony, How's it going ? What's your email if you don't mind . . . Jpm has dedicated his life to his neutral-positive spirit consciousness... | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 697 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Pureharmony ; I do remember that Pele is known to be female . I guess I got sidetracked with the megalopsionatrophic dialog which we are burdened with . The other riddle of the floating soap is another might lead back to these ancient personages , but since it's easily available , better to enjoy the mystery . Kjnd Thanks , Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Pledja Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 02-2008 |
Is it through the spirit that we are able to consciously control the different glands in the body including the pineal,pituitary gland etc? or is it a conscious related thing more like moving a thumb or your feet? Im really interest to know this. Also does anyone know when the questions to BEAM section opens? |
