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Rarena
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 07:33 am: | 
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Hi Marcela,
Welcome to the group... Do not have answers to your other questions but have read in the Contact notes that sex is determined by genetics alone... Have not read that sex can be influenced by our thoughts... nor our parents...
Salome,
Rarena ô¿ô |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 357
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 10:00 pm: |
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Hi Rarena and Marcela,
Marcela is correct here. I remember Billy did say somewhere that future homosexuality is determined due to a lack of decision as to which sex the person prefers to be in the future life. This may have been in the Q&A to Billy or a video/interview with him rather than the CNs. A search should bring up the proper reference.
There are many levels of genetic influence; some are easy to influence and others require definitive scientific application. Our thoughts can effect our genetics. It is known that just thinking healthy and happy thoughts, and changing one's diet, can effect cellular structure and hence certain aspects of our genetic structure for the better; on the other hand no amount of thinking or diet will change one's brown eyes blue. Check The Biology of Belief by cellular biologist Bruce Lipton. Please note follow up comments on this thought/cells/genetics aspect would belong in another thread covering health or the human body.
Chris |
Rarena
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Post Number: 331
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 07:51 am: |
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Hi Chris,
Long time no email...
You bring up another dimension to the conversation... Great.
Am often asked if we can choose our sex in the next life or is it determined by ourselves... My sense is it is still somewhat left up to chance and the genetics of the parents... not ourselves.
Billy said in a Q&A session about a year or so back that sex is determined by genetics and that force that created us, what he calls, Creation... which infers, to me, anyway... it is not really within our power to control... only influence one way or the other which is not determining.
Being confused about things is not really a determining force... although it is a factor, a variable... more or less left up to chance and... like you said, our thoughts, which depending on our evolution can be more or less influencing. And it is my understanding our thoughts do not evolve after we die... or do they? Fine line here.
So I am in agreement with you but wanted to clarify my agreement...
If homosexuality is considered a separate sex, then your point is valid. But, as far as I know they are either male or female although sex hormone levels can change their percentage of atrributes we consider "maleness" or "femaleness". If they have the ablity to bare children they are female. Or to inseminate the female... male.
There is also the group called hermaphrodites and, by their physical makeup: both sexes (I.E. bisexual or transexual) and it would be incorrect to call them homosexual (same sex). If our thoughts determine the sex... what were THEY thinking about? eh eh...
Sex is the driving force of procreation... ummm interesting word.
An old joke...
Sex is NOT the answer... it's the question, the answer is... yes... eh eh. |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 263
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 01:24 pm: |
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Hello All,
In consideration of the debate on sexuality, some thoughts.
Our Spirit is neutral, and by virtue of experiencing material lives as both male and female, we do grow. This capability of the Spirit allows us to gain knowledge, experience, and wisdom of 'both sides' of life in equal measure. It could not be otherwise, or our total evolution would be 'lopsided'.
Therefore, we all will have lives in equal numbers as both male and female in our countless incarnations. Our lives do not necessarily flip 'back and forth' one way to the other. We may have a large group of incarnations experiencing all the aspects of 'femaleness', followed with a similar group of lives to experience all the aspects of 'maleness'. Or many combinations of alternations in between.
The answer indeed is: YES, yes....yes...
Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 321
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 03:29 pm: |
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Hello, Chris and Marcela
You are not imagining things. Jakobjn/Jacob/Phaethonsfire wrote an explanatory post on June 15, 2004 under the section, Spiritual Life In Everyday Life, saying very similar to you Chris. Here it is:
"1.First main period: Birth - Incarnation determination
Every human decides in this life, mostly unconsciously, what his or hers next gender will be, it is done by his own willpower and selfdetermination.
His own thinking and acting will determine the gender for the next life, if a persons thinking and acting is more female then male the next life will be lived as a female.
The stronger the will, thinking and acting in a specfic way, the stronger and more prone the gender for the next life will be.
If a person thinks very strongly in male patterns all his or her life, then the next live will be that of a strong and very masculine strictly heterosexual male.
However is the selfdetermination and willpower not so strong then in the next life, the male proporties won't be as strong and even a latent male-bisexuality can exist in such a case.
This selfdetermination begins in the material consciousness and works over the Psyche, through the Material Subconsciousness into the Spirit-mind (Gemüt), its the Spirit-mind (Gemüt) who is the factor who determines the gender in the next life.
So if a person thinks mostly in a masculine way, then these impulses will store in the Spirit-mind (Gemüt) as a selfdetermination-factor and will determine the gender for the next life.
The Spiritform seeks out a new body in a unconscious way which has the most compatible impulse-vibrations, which means that new body and new surroundings have the most potential and pose the best surroundings for evolution, however this is fully in a unconscious way since the human spiritform does not have a conscious spiritconsciousness."(end of excerpt)
This process was further clarified by Billy in an answer to a question:
"It is the new personality that has been created by the comprehensive consciousness block (Gesamtbewusstseinblock) that steers/directs the developing embryo in order to remain a female body or to become a male body. This process is made possible by the spirit’s force/power. The spirit form is responsible for the necessary impulses for this process, but the spirit form itself does NOT decide about the gender. It’s the new personality and its aspects/goals/etc. that determine the gender of the developing baby/human being."
Regards
Bob |
Marcela
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 11:14 am: |
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Hi Phi_spiral:
Thank you for the explanation; I wanted to clarify that I heard Billy on an interview stating our ability to choose our gender in the next life as I understood most of the interview because the audio is not the greatest but Billy’s English is clear and to the point. You can’t hear the questions sometimes but you can hear Billy very well. It is a great video and you have to keep clicking to find the other videos, they are numbered but they are not in order. Thank you everybody for their input, it is definitely a controversial topic, because there certain features of the person are dermined by genetics; however, there are other aspects of our future life that can be controlled by our decisions and thoughts...pretty amazing
Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ODA86XPMTg&feature=related
Marcela
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Edward
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Post Number: 1173
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:07 am: |
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Hi All...
Yes, what Bob posted makes it all very clear....through Billy's materials.
I have even know individuals, born Male and Female, whom were very
experimental with their Sexuality(Tri-sexual). And, through the years I have
seen these individuals 'Metamorphose' themselves, into the gender...opposite
to their birth gender. I have seen men/males as well as women/females change
to their other desired sex/gender, through them experiencing it to the extreme
manifestation of it, and no longer act and look as the gender they were born
as. [Some have even had gender change, done.]
Through the above mentioned, it was proven by a researcher many decades ago;
whom discovered that when acting as the above mentioned manifested, there is
indeed... a Change/Modification, in the (Material Consciousness) brain
tissues/lobs, which than finally...processes the Personality to become the
'Metamorphosed' gender they want to lead in this life time. [Thus, is
Confirmed Materially, through Brain Scans.]
The researcher was attacked and called all sorts of things, which many
Homosexuals, Lesbos....etc...did not find amused, but he was even back-up by
as well...Homosexuals and Lesbos, as well as their parents, whom wanted to
know, how the fork fits the stick, so to speak. So, he had very good and
healthy individuals backing up his research....and agreed with his results, as
did many others in his field of brain research.[As even I would agree, and
found his work very Logical! And later reading it in Billy's work.]
Thus, the above mentioned corresponds to what Billy has mentioned: through
'thought and Spirit-power/force'; which is very powerful....in the processing
to the mentioned 'Gender Metamorphose'.
So, in the next incarnation...there is the possibility, that the mentioned
will reincarnated into their today's preferred gender.
Thus, 'Self Induced'(Consciously or Confused)...plays quite an interesting aspect, here.
Edward. |
Marcela
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 05:11 pm: |
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Greetings to all,
I guess that it would be nice to reincarnate and be born from parents with a spirit level that is compatible with ours, so our spiritual evolution can continue, but I think that since we broke every single creational law this might not be the case. However, according to Billy, when we die the spirit storages wisdom, love, knowledge for the next life and the more we learn in this life the more we will know spiritually in the next life. I don’t know how this happens; it is not that we remember how to log on FIGU web site  , but in a way we recognize truth easier and we respect nature more, etc, because unfortunately, in our next reincarnation humans will still be wandering in the darkness of false teachings regardless of their spiritual evolution. I also wanted to say that I wouldn’t be worried about being born in the jungle in a tribe. In my country there are still some tribes and they seem to be happy, they respect nature, they don’t suffer discrimination, they treat women well, etc.. What I am worried about is being born in a big city or region where values are going the opposite way and the struggle for life makes you forget about a more spiritual life like Jmmanuel said. He said that you must take care of feeding yourself in order to learn the spiritual way without worries.
Edward, I wanted to say that the use of good psychology plays a great roll if a person wants to change. Billy also mentioned this aspect on the interview; I didn’t understand if gay people can become heterosexual through therapy or they must seek therapy through psychology. I have to watch the video again.
Marcela
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Markv
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 04:59 am: |
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There's also a theory out there that there are 2 causes for homosexuality and things of the like, which seem to be somewhat corroborated by Mr. Meier:
1. Childhood traumas, often of a sexual nature; these can often be "corrected" by therapy. I remember that Mr. Meier did mention that some cases could be alleviated through "psychology".
2. "Biological" (erroneously labeled IMO). This is better explained IMO by the "confused spirit" explanation. The biological idea doesn't really pan out, for what seem to be rather apparent reasons IMO.
The point is that Mr. Meier mentioned both of these things years before the 1st theory became widespread, so this was particularly interesting, to me, since I was aware of these 2 ideas before I began looking into the Meier case again a month, or so, ago. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 361
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 12:05 am: |
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As with most things human there are all shades of characteristics. Some sexual orientation can be changed through therapy and some at the other end of the stick, being genetic in nature, would require scientific adjustment. Even the Ps have said they council their own kind when finding a homosexual genetic tendency, and after councelling offer the scientific adjustment procedure to them if they want to make use of it, and if it is necessary to make the wished-for adjustment. While there is encouragement there is no pressure on the homosexual to change, however.
The Ps comments suggest it is not just a matter of inheritance through reincarnation, but naturally occurring genetic changes just occasionally happen -- even for them.
Obviously each case needs to be looked at in its own light.
If I remember correctly, Freud said that about 30% of men had bisexual tendencies of some kind or another. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1174
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 03:17 am: |
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Hi Marcela and All...
Marcela, I understand what you mean.
The Mass is just not Educated...properly, alas. If the Mass were properly
educated with Billy's Teachings and Wisdom and Insight, One would THINK
TWICE....before becoming Sexually Curious and Fickle...etc....; and 'Wisdom'
before Pleasure, so to speak; and Love and NOT Lust.
What Markv and Cpl have posted is also known to me...and which we should take
into account.
Well, not all of the individuals I knew whom were Tri-Sexual came out as being
fully Gender Metamorphosed. Some just experimented and that was it, and just
led an average Male or Female existence. So, it is all - between the ears -,
so to speak(to some point). One can either...alter/change One's way of
thinking, or not. Just up to the individual...him/her-self.
Or just being very Bi-Sexual, pendeling back-and-forth for their own sexual
needs/pleasure(very Material occupied/oriented: NOT Spiritual!) and then
suddenly die and not having made a/the correct gender orientation/choice, of
Oneself; this too can lead to a 'Confused' out-come....which will reflect
itself, into the new reincarnationed Personality, to be.
But of course, if the previous incarnation data is not processed and assessed
correctly, due to Global World Overpopulation....for example, this too
contributes to Spirit-forms not generating the correct and appropriate
Personalities, thus, only one that is Confused, and will find itself in an -
Identity Crisis -, if you will. So, there are many different reasons; mostly
related to - Circumstantial Processing(s) - of the individual Spirit-form(s);
every one being very Unique....it their expressions.
But of course, if One is so far into the Tri-Sexual processing...there may
indeed be no way back, so to speak. When the mentioned Material Consciousness
(Brain) tissues are so Effected far into a/the Lob(s), which of course may
cause undesirable impossibilities to alter the brain tissues into it's normal
format/construction...as it previously manifested, in/as. [Just like-wise, as the
case is, with the Religious Lobs]
So, it does all depend on HOW far One is into the processing. And, again: if
the brain is so far advanced Effected; alas...no changes can be made into it's
normal format.
So, it will take a while, before we can adapt the same procedures as the
Plejarans apply. But, one day we will get there!
Edward. |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 04:14 pm: |
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It seems that there are many extreme consequences of the overpopulation problem as it relates to a persons ability to process the previous life and prepare properly for the next. Not to mention the constant fight or competition over the world's resources. This problem of not being properly trained so to speak to pursue the truths of life and be effective in responding to the stored knowledge and wisdom that we have accumulated or is available through our efforts to connect our consciousness to creation. Also the sexual confusion that you just mentioned and the list goes on.
As I was reading through what the P's have laid out that we should change it suggests that through a world wide gov't that we should suspend all births for 7 yrs. just for starters. This obviously is quite out of reach for this planets current maturity level to be able to manage.
The P's also said that they replaced their form of Gov't with people of wisdom and knowledge to be their guides and leaders.
This is so critical to our evolution as a planet of people don't you think?
Are there any counties on Earth where others are making progress with self rule?
We must find a way to do it, we must get to work on ourselves and also our surroundings.
Our next life depends on what we do and how we live now, probably more than we can comprehend.
Here is a clip of Semjase's spirit teaching that is so inspiring I wanted to include it.
Be Peaceful and Tenacious, Matt
"The human may create wondrous worlds in a dream, just as Creation consciously creates the worlds.
To the human, this capability arises from his consciousness, which is obtainable in existence within himself, in the same way that all wonders are available within himself." |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 12:27 pm: |
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Hello Matt (Redbeard), Greetings All in Peace,
Even the Plejarens have gone through the similar problems which we are facing now. There have been among them civil wars, dissension, criminals, and population problems. They speak to us from the wisdom of experience.
"The P's also said that they replaced their form of Gov't with people of wisdom and knowledge to be their guides and leaders." It was not always so with them. It has been SINCE they accepted the authority and guidance from the level of the council in Andromeda, they then evolved in great understanding of Creation.
So we still yet have to pass through some growing pains of our own to become a mature civilization. As more and more of us leave behind any attachments to the fears, negativity, and illogical nonsense in the world, turn toward Creation Truth, we become a positive influence for others. Share what you can with those whom are receptive.
Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Marcela
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 03:01 pm: |
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J_rod7:
I agree with you; maybe we will have to go through some lessons (prophesies) to learn a better way to be humans. We will experience more wars and natural disasters before we change our ways of governing and behaving with each other. After all we have millions of opportunities. But, what we can’t afford to lose is our planet; it is here were we can learn, make mistakes and relearn the truth until every person lives according to the laws of Creation.
I found a great quote that I wanted to share with you guys; Jmmanuel said: …those who believe my words now will find the truth in the future… (paraphrased) …I have to find the exact words though.
Marcela
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Indi
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 09:54 pm: |
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Hi Marcela
I would like to 'tweak' your paraphrased quote above ----
One of the things you will find in your continuing studies of this material, is that the concept of 'belief' versus recognizing or understanding etc.... is clearly pointed out.
That being said, I thought I would try and find the passage you were referring to -- and this may or may not be the one, however, it will do for my tweaking:
TJ Chapter 20:27,28
27. As they were walking, Peter said to him, "Behold, we have forsaken everything to follow you; what will we get in return?"
28. But Jmmanuel replied to them, "Truly, I say to you, some of you who have followed me will embrace the wisdom of my teachings, so you will be spiritually great in reincarnations to come. But some of you will not recognize the wisdom of my teachings and will disseminate erroneous teachings about me. Those ones will have difficulty finding the truth in future incarnations.
your words were 'believe my words' and the quote says " embrace/recognize the wisdom of my teachings"
The latter has a very different meaning as you will appreciate no doubt on reflection.
The problems with 'belief' are written about in various places -- have a look and see if you can find them so as to clarify this seemingly small but really important part of the teachings.
If you can't let me know and I will see what I can find.
in peace
Robjna |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 275
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 03:55 pm: |
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Hello Marcela and Robjna, and to All - Salome
If we accept that Earth is a living and conscious spirit, then we should accept that her Spirit is everlasting, as is our own Spirit.
If Gaia were to speak, she might say to us...:
I remember the depths of space wherein I came into material being.
I remember endless suns, and see them still.
I remember mountains rise and fall and rise again.
I remember trees, flowers, fishes, birds, every creature.
I remember all the Humans, for their bones are here with me.
And I see them still.
All of them in a great flurry of activity, the ephemeral ones, they come and go so quickly.
And, yet I see, the Spirit in them all is as everlasting as my own.
Can they know, how much Love we share, with endless more?
Will Humankind continue on the path of destruction? If the past is any clue to the future, probably so.
Will the poles of Earth shift, causing another great calamity? It is recorded in the rocks, in the frozen lava of the past, so probably.
Then, will Humankind and Earth continue on into the future?
To answer this question, here are quotes from Talmud Jmmanuel, chapter 25...:
9. People will hear about wars and threats of war, and they are to witness this but not be frightened because it must transpire; but it will not yet be the end.
10. For many a nation will rise up against its government, one nation against another and one kingdom against another, and there will be times of privation, earthquakes and immense storms and floods all about.
18. but those who persist in the truth will survive.
26. If these days were not cut short, no one would survive; but the days will be cut short for the sake of the consciousness and life.
27. This will also be for the sake of the people who serve the truth and the laws.
38. Behold, I have told you this beforehand, and so it will fulfil itself.
Let the Truth be known, as it will for ALL which seek. Hope and Love have a home in the heart.
Salome
Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU?
J_rod7
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 326
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 05:29 pm: |
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Adrian: “By the way...if I follow Mr. Meier's word correctly, this is stuff not yet discovered by human beings in a more scientific way...therefore it can only be examined with human logic. In fact, reincarnation is not even recognized as fact...which again I think it's fair cuz nobody proved anything yet....or will anyone ever?”
Hi, Adrian. I moved your question in your post 89 from The Spirit, Spirit Forms and the Psyche over to this section which is more appropriate.
Here on Earth we are at a loss to prove the validity of reincarnation, but on Erra it has become an exact science, allowing them to understand who is being born and what the purpose is of the coming life.
The more spiritually advanced on Erra have the ability to make a spiritual connection of some kind with the incoming person, and "read" who they have been in the past life and what their purpose is for coming into this new life. Parents try to find out what name the incoming person wants to call themselves, since a person's name is an expression of not only their spiritual development, but relates to the path of education that they are on. They think of the incoming spirit-form as a person who has lived other lifetimes and is beginning a new one for a specific reason. Creation itself has something to do with the mechanism of parent selection, although this process is not completely understood by the Plejarens. But they do seem to have advanced to a point of spiritual understanding and cognition that allows them to procreate and cause people to be born at a certain time, such as they did with the spirit-form of Jmmanuel. But that is not typical.
During the pregnancy, the mother is able to learn much about the person coming in so that she may have a clearer understanding of how to assist them in their new life. And Plejaren parents are not possessive of the incoming person as on Earth – they consider them a creation of their own and there is a sharing of its development with others in the community. Once the individual is born, they have the capacity to understand their past lives and their chosen lessons in the new life.
So to answer your question, when we ourselves evolve to a spiritual level comparable to the Plejarens than the reality of reincarnation will become self-evident and demonstrative.
Regards
Bob |
Jpm
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 03:20 pm: |
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Mark v wrote:
There's also a theory out there that there are 2 causes for homosexuality and things of the like, which seem to be somewhat corroborated by Mr. Meier:
1. Childhood traumas, often of a sexual nature; these can often be "corrected" by therapy. I remember that Mr. Meier did mention that some cases could be alleviated through "psychology".
2. "Biological" (erroneously labeled IMO). This is better explained IMO by the "confused spirit" explanation. The biological idea doesn't really pan out, for what seem to be rather apparent reasons IMO.
The point is that Mr. Meier mentioned both of these things years before the 1st theory became widespread, so this was particularly interesting, to me, since I was aware of these 2 ideas before I began looking into the Meier case again a month, or so, ago.
regarding 2.) i have a confused spirit, it's obvious to me. although i am the best.......
delete what comment u don't like don't overmoderate me , that's not cool...
Jpm has dedicated his life to his neutral spirit consciousness...
jpm joking quotes 2pac shakur 'Mafias on the side, my congregation high, ready to die' Excerpt from Me and my Girlfriend
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Hector
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Post Number: 408
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 04:36 am: |
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Hi Jpm a human spirit can never ever be confused. Its composed by the most refined and finest energy in the universe, that cannot be affected by any negative influence from the material world. The spirit resembles a battery, an accumulator of finest universal energies, that can be charged in the process of eternal evolution and learning....
What can be confused is either the consciousness or the personality. An example of momentarily confused consciousness is a drunk person, or a person who smokes marijuana. After the effects of the drugs have passed, the consciousness regains its full and entire perceptive capabilities.
Another type of confusion of the consciousness is when it is flooded with an excess of impulses, or too strong impulses, from the storage banks or from other individuals thoughts, that the consciousness is not able to process/digest. This process could be analogue to a network computer' "system overload".
Confusion of the personality can be related to a too short stay in the beyond, so the previous personality could not be entirely converted into neutral energy and the actual personality shares some features with the previous one. This causes problems with you "I" or your "identity". |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 06:50 am: |
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Hector interesting post, I would like to know your source on what you said in the following paragraph-
[Another type of confusion of the consciousness is when it is flooded with an excess of impulses, or too strong impulses, from the storage banks or from other individuals thoughts, that the consciousness is not able to process/digest. This process could be analogue to a network computer' "system overload".]
Your next statement below about confusion because of short time between lives is something that I had heard others mention, so on the last questions to Billy I asked him about it.
( Confusion of the personality can be related to a too short stay in the beyond, so the previous personality could not be entirely converted into neutral energy and the actual personality shares some features with the previous one. This causes problems with you "I" or your "identity". )
<Dear Billy, greetings and many thanks from a fellow earth worm.
My question is, with overpopulation our spirits spend less time between lives. What problems if any could this lack of time to get over (released from) the previous life and prepare for the next life could the person experience because of the short rebirth cycle.
Peace to you from,
Redbeard >
Billy-"A short time-span between incarnations does not lead to problems with an incarnation. Certain things have to be worked out again in a next existence anyway."
Billy's reply would lean toward some of our confusion is related to figuring out the proverbial WHAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE. Based on my experience a great deal of confusion is brought on by our illogical ways of dealing with life and how do we relate to the mess and stress down here.
As far as the homosexual subject that came up, I had heard someone lecturing about health and he mentioned something about DDT and other chemicals and it's possible effect on males at the precise moment in the womb when the biological switch is thrown to decide male or female. His theory was that if this DDT which acts like a female hormone, was present at that exact moment then the process of gender decision of the new forming male is altered, so that later he is confused by the mixed signals they are experiencing between male or female.
I can contact this person if there is any interest but I did a search on it and found one interesting site w/timeline related to DDT and it's history and I'm sure there are others.
http://www.antijen.org/transadvocate/id20.html
I think it's possible that when a person is changed in the physical in some way, it effects a myriad of things and almost becomes a part of the personality that we are at the moment of self examination, for better or worse.
To be clear I'm not discounting the whole confusion about gender that Billy is talking about I just wanted to share what I had come across to see what you all think.....
Matt |
Jpm
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 09:49 am: |
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Hector wrote:
Another type of confusion of the consciousness is when it is flooded with an excess of impulses, or too strong impulses, from the storage banks or from other individuals thoughts, that the consciousness is not able to process/digest. This process could be analogue to a network computer' "system overload".
Confusion of the personality can be related to a too short stay in the beyond, so the previous personality could not be entirely converted into neutral energy and the actual personality shares some features with the previous one. This causes problems with you "I" or your "identity".
Yeah, i got that... too much information coming through...
Jpm has dedicated his life to his neutral spirit consciousness...
jpm joking quotes 2pac shakur 'Mafias on the side, my congregation high, ready to die' Excerpt from Me and my Girlfriend
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Pathfinder
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 04:28 pm: |
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I would like to know at what point the reincarnated spirit becomes aware of the knowledge that it had gained through its previous incarnation?
from what I understand, when we die our spirit goes to the spirit level surrounding our planet, where the knowlege and experience is processed.
After this procedure, which can take up to 70 years is completed, we are born into a new body.
The experience and wisdom and knowledge that we previously attained is supposed to be forwarded as well. But in the new body we have no memory of our previous life and begin again as a baby.
So is there any more explicit teaching about how, when, the new identity becomes aware of or somehow enhanced with, or ebenfits from the previous wealth?
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
Contact 18:62
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Adysor
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 03-2008
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Pathfinder, I don't think the spirit ever becomes aware of the knowledge that he has gained because he already has it through the consciousness-block. It is the self or material consciousness(YOU) who has to become aware of the knowledge. That's how I understand it.
Adrian.
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