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    Pureharmony Member Post Number: 136 Registered: 08-2002 |
Hi Edward, I recall reading in the contact notes that we are still capable of learning/evolving in the spirit realm. In fact, I remember posting a quote about that here several years back. However at the moment I am at a loss to mention exactly which contact note I read that in. I'll need to do some research to locate the specifics. Shannon *pureharmony* | ||
Faerast New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2008 |
hi every one I very want to know did plejarens friend have a detail for about How many bafath dead on earth and reincarnation on earth? if they reincarnation on earth did plejarens have a detail for about they will become who? thank you and have a happy day  | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 455 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Faerast, the socalled Bafath had reached a higher spiritual level and also a higher development of their consciousness. But when those spirit forms reincarnate again, they have two options: 1) Their consciousness is "tuned down" (limited) to fit that of the average human being on Earth. 2) They stay in the beyond for a longer period, and reincarnate again when the average human being of these planet has reached a certain high consciousness development. So the Bafath members are not going to profit from their capacities in the past, but rather the contrary. They will have to "re-discover" their hidden abilities and will have to work hard in order to have access to their stored "knowledge and wisdom". Such process is called "Re-Legeon", which means to put everything together again (and put it right). | ||
Faerast New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2008 |
thank you for answer my questions, but I have a few questions again and very urgent want to know the answers. 1. did Arussem dead on earth and reincarnation on earth? How long has he survived? In which year did he birth and in which year did he dead? 2. and also about Jehav, did Jehav dead on earth and reincarnation on earth? How long has he survived? In which year did he birth and in which year did he dead? And also want to know if they dead on earth their spirit from will spent how many time to stay in the beyond and reincarnation on earth? Hope you help me to find the answers and hope you have a happy day.  | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 555 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi everyone, I just had another sort of revelation about loss and death. It always seemed logical that when we die are personalities vanish and the the knowledge and spirit somehow continue, but I never could get over the fact that we feel such loss when someone close to us dies if it happens in a natural way from old age, etc. Well now it occurs to me that we don't morn the loss of people growing up and that can sort of apply to people dying and being reincarnated. The way I see it, we do not have the same personalities between the earlier years of our lives and the later years because we evolve and change throughout life. So essentially you are not the same person you were in the past, even in this current incarnation. Now I also understand that it is the sense of seperation that causes us pain when a loved one dies, but that too should not be taken to extremes. It is probably impossible for a person at our levels of evolution to be so evolved that they feel no pain at the loss of a loved one, but if you think about the fact that all that was good about them was never lost at death, but instead continues on in even higher relative perfection, the pain eventually can be put under control and diminished or extinguished. I have lost loved ones in the past and the first weeks were in certain cases like hell on earth for me. Then I realized that the ones I was morning were in no way suffering after death had occured. The moment I adopted this more unselfish attitude and stopped feeling sorry for myself, the pain was very very drastically reduced. I still miss those that I lost (in the material life sense of being lost), but I am at peace now and almost look forward to death as a good night's sleep whenever my time naturally comes... | ||
Pathfinder Member Post Number: 162 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Thomas, Just a couple of after thoughts on what you say here. I think that there should be a distinction between greiving, mourning and missing the dead. not to create my own translations and definitions, but I think that different people will greive for different reasons. for example, a viking dying outside of battle whereas his family would believe he was not going to vahalla, or Christians mourning the death of a loved one who would not accept Christ as God and believe he is going to an eternal hell. This would certainly be much different than merely missing the person from ones life. With regard to the afterlife, i am still searching for writing that states whether or not our spirits are aware in the spirit realm. or is it a state of unconsciousness? Is there any interaction between spirits in the afterlife? is there any individuality or personal identity of a spirit in the realm. I am reminded here of a star trek episode where that shape shifter guy goes to his home planet and simply becomes one with his race by melting together with them. Is that what the spirit realm will be like? is there any reference to this? "Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth." Contact 18:62 | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 448 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** Salome Faerast The following 3-Archived sections have some information about Arussem...: 1./ The Planet Earth: Miscellaneous: Ancient Earth History: Archive for 2001 - 2005 • 13, 2001. mentioned Arussem forced empire • , 1977, Billy told Arussem returned earth • Approx. ,280 B.C.: Arussem fought father ... elder brother Arussem, forced minions 2./ The Planet Earth: Religion: Archive for 2002 • Jehovah took empire Arussem 1033 B.C. 3./ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/6827.html#POST24682 These references are found with the SEARCH function (top of page). Happy Hunting Salome *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Pureharmony Member Post Number: 138 Registered: 08-2002 |
Hi Pathfinder - (Edward), Here is a reference I think might interest you in regards to your inquiry about after death in reference to awareness or consciousness: Talmud of Jmmanuel Chapter 23 -"Hence, when a person dies, their spirit lives on and leaves this side of existence for the other side, where it continues to gather the wisdom of knowledge" I hope that helps a bit. I recommend getting the Talmud of Jmmanuel if possible. Saalome *pureharmony* | ||
Pathfinder Member Post Number: 172 Registered: 10-2008 |
Thanx Shannon, every little bit helps. "Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth." Contact 18:62 | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Thomas ; It's selfish of us to insist that our loved ones stay here with us . What will we do without their true friendship ? How will we get along without them ? If they were elderly , it must be sweet relief for them to be done with their mortal prison . I am lucky to have prepared myself by trying to improve my wisdom by the time I had to face it for the first time . Like you said , for me , the first weeks were aching fits of crying like a wounded baby . I realized that instead of wishing for something that I cannot not have , I will enjoy the influence on my life , and my personality , as some of the dear traits unfold within me , some genetic , some as fond memories . It would be easy to feel lost , but by now , I have become more resourceful than I would have been otherwise had I not pursued lessons of spirit . It's not my favorite topic , but someone might benefit and gain insight for their own eventual experience . They will be alright . A baby can't suckle it's mother before it's born , and an adult should not yearn past a normal period of grief for their parent ; at some point , you realize that you literally could continue this forever . But , you break the chain of thought and determine that it will stop , and it will . In the end , only love remains . With Respect , Mark | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 370 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dear Thomas, Regarding your post 555, death or the idea of it is corrected with the knowledge we are getting here... Thank you for sharing your evolution with us... it is indeed a pleasure to see your growth online! We all have the opportunity to evolve with you... Your loved ones would not want you to suffer, nor would you want your children and loved ones to suffer after you've passed into the great beyond... My grandfather died while I was working in Alaska, a close father figure... and whenever I build (create) something involved in carpentry he is there... his energy... his fine matter, memory of his energy... whatever you want to call it... a companion...helps me silently with the project... So, in effect his body is gone... but his spirit, his energy is still there right by my side, in spirit... which never dies... You're right about thinking of others first... which invariably makes our own lives peaceful and more fulfilling, so does it benefit ourselves to forgive... rather than hold within... negative feelings about one another... it is an uplifting freedom to release it which invariably helps us. It makes you think about how you react to events in your everyday life... One day in Hinterschmidrüti I was walking into SSSC and Billy was taking the "high" road to my right... We had spent the entire day cleaning up earning our keep and some sheep had deposited their waste all along the pathway to the center... It was pandimonium little kids from the neighborhood were trying to catch the sheep and running and shouting... which was scaring the sheep (I now see in hindsight) but at the time I was nervous and full of the milky acid adrenaline and a bit pissed off... One of the kids ran up to Billy, and I will never forget this the rest of my life, with a smile he saw the child and said a sentence in Swiss German, a language I am still learning... and the kid near me put his arms up like a fence and the sheep stopped instantly... One word or sentence from Billy and all was calm... Tremendous calm. I would have reacted... would have shown my nervousness and may have told the children it was wrong... Billy smiled and only produced a solution with utmost calm and love he smiled to that kid, the same smile as that little five year old boy in the picture so many years ago... I found myself, after observing that... becomeing calm in the face of chaos, utter confusion and disorder... it was a reference point I can look back on and see a change in my evolution such as you have described in post 555... So now... my mind goes to a viable solution to whatever events unfold requiring forethought and becomes... a creative solution, as the story about Billy above reveals. Salome | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 557 Registered: 03-2004 |
Thanks for that story Randy. It is simple but to me very inspiring... | ||
Faerast Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2008 |
hi everyone I want to know if Arussem dead on earth his spirit forms will stay how many years in the beyond and reincarnation on earth? thank you and have a happy day. | ||
Yoid New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2008 |
Hi everyone! I don't understand the following thing: - I know at the moment that i'm here and now , I know that I'm exist. - when I sleep I don't fell that I'm exist, just when I woke up. - when I die I feel the same as sleep, that I don't exist, but my spiritform proccessing the data I stored in my lifetime? -after that I reincarnate in new body and I start feeling again that I'm exist? -when I reach tha arachat level then I will be starting to feel that I'm exist as a spiritform , and I can remember my past lifes and other things? -what is it to be or live in a pure spiritform, what I do? not mention evolving. -is this fine matter world looking as ours, or it is just a lightning in the darkness? and I feel that there are other spirits and we are evolving, but nothing else? -it's look to me like to be "in the box". how does it look like, are they living as we do, but more evolved? -Do Billy know this? Can he tell something about their lives as a spiritform? thanks | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 526 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** Hello Yoid, Welcome to the FIGU Forum. You have asked some VERY GOOD Questions. I am happy to Inform you, your questions have been submitted for Peer Review in the following new Section= >>The Mission>>"Billy" Eduard Albert Meier>>Questions to Billy Submitted for Peer Review You may use the Tree View (above) to locate this or any other section. The Search function there, you will find, is a very useful tool; often your questions may have already been discussed or answered by other members here. Salome *** * You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped) Rod | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 327 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Yoid one may or not be conscious of something (like when dead), but just because of that things aren´t going to disappear or "cease to exist". As we advance more and more in our evolution we will become more and more conscious of how things are in reality, and how everything works. Much much sooner (reaching the Arahat Athersata level takes millions and millions and millions of years) and while still humans of flesh and bone we will be capable of remembering our past lives. I think that yes, Billy may know how it is the pure spirit world, but if it´s possible to explain (and understand) that with words, i dont know, but you can ask him. Supposedly it is possible for we human beings to "see" the pure spirit world by ourselves and for that we have to study meditation. i hope this helps take care | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 35 Registered: 06-2006 |
hey peoples.. had the idea of this question for billy - but maybe i'll offer it up here instead - was afraid that it might look like i was trying to be clever - and that it might end up just being annoying for billy to have to answer - I get the impression sometimes he has a short fuse sometimes in respect to the questions! lol - but anyway was a genuine knot i found myself getting into - am sometimes thoroughly plagued with trying to resolve or iron out all of these very difficult and too numerous totally wriggly possibilities that oftentimes present themseles in the info/material!  ok anyway here goes... if it is the case that the P's restored all of your memories - so that you were able to remember - all of your past lives - well just wondering that in respect to your meeting with Jmmanuel - did you have a memory of meeting yourself - ie that is to say remembering being in the shoes of Jmmanuel and having the concsiousness of Jmmanuel - and thus being brought to meet with a man coming from the future - in the shape of eduard albert meier??!!! and if so did that feel a bit odd? ok thats all - i guess not that important - but maybe a little interesting all the same. :D | ||
Marksmanr Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2008 |
If Billy got the memories of Jmmanuel where he (Jmmanuel) was visited by Billy from the future, then yes the memory would be in 1st person from Jmmanuel's perspective seeing Billy come and visit him. I don't know if Billy got that memory though, but it would've been pretty funny if he did. I don't think Billy would reject this question, it is a good one! Reece Stiller | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 88 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Scott: I have read the article about the boy who was a WWII pilot. Wow, could it be posible that because we are not disolving our previous personality, kids are remembering past lifes. Or do you think it is a common, natural happening? I went on the internet and found several stories about kids remembering past lifes. What I like about the article is that you can contact the author. It would be nice to let her know that it is real... Salome | ||
Pathfinder Member Post Number: 301 Registered: 10-2008 |
Guys, this is a perfect example of the identity crisis that I am referring to in another thread. Is this new person the boy that he is now using the pilots spirit? Or the pilot trapped in the body of a child? The fact that the spirit reincarnates through many various lives creates a dilemma about the identity of it and who it actually is as a spirit as opposed to who it is as an incarnation. Does the spirit have an identity that it becomes when it reaches half human stage? And when that happens does is the identity the last person it was, or one of the strongest persons that shines through the rest? Would a spirit be more of Alexander the Great than it would a simple peasant boy? Hunter http://blueskinsearcher.blogspot.com/ "Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth." Contact 18:62 | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 06-2008 |
Dear Hunter: I think that your first statement is closer to what I understand about the spirit. You can say that this boy is using the spirit of another person/personality to live again and learn again, contribute to evolution and then depart again. I don’t think the pilot is trapped in the boy’s body/mind because Billy said it is impossible to remember your previous lives. If you went through terrible events in your past life, you would be born with traumas and you wouldn’t have a bright start. So Creation erases your memory, so you can start fresh. And I am using YOU, MY again because I see it as follows: Jmmanuel said that when the spirit reincarnates, it becomes one with the body, there is no difference. It is not a duality, or trinity, etc, is one. You are your spirit; your spirit is Hunter for this life. When we die, a new YOU is born. I need to find the page... Going back to the pilot kid, I have to say that a possibility is that spirits are having personality problems because they are reincarnating too soon. Spirits spend 150 years in the Beyond. If this boy was a pilot in WWII, that is only 60 years ago. This we have to ask Billy... Hunter, I think that when we reincarnate, we experience life like you are now, only in a new material body. Salome | ||
Pathfinder Member Post Number: 304 Registered: 10-2008 |
Marcela, Still trying to sort it all out in my head. If it wasn't for the identity part of the dilemma I would not have a problem with the reincarnation aspects of the teaching. It just seems to my logic to be all for naught if we do not retain the character and person that we strive to better. What do we accomplish in life if everything we struggle to achieve with regard to enhancing our personal character simply dies with us and becomes nothing more than knowledge bank storage? Why struggle to achieve moral character and virtue in this life if we do not retain it for the next? I wish that Billy could address the more intimate details of reincarnation so that a person wanting to follow it could be more attuned to what they were following. If Billy could somehow verify the reincarnation process imagine how that would uplift humanity. Personally, I think that love and the moral virtues related to it are a far more important aspect of creation than these teachings are suggesting, and maybe they are just not touching on these issues with enough determination to clarify the problems, but I still think that each life must be one of constant striving to achieve an enhancement of the aspects of love that make creation what it is supposed to be, and that means that to reflect the true identity of creation and mirror its true qualities, we must maintain the individual character that we are developing and achieving through each incarnation. These may be in different bodies and different personalities, but the individual spirit that is made up of the moral and virtuous character that you have enabled it with must still remain as an identity/entity through each of the incarnations. For instance, if in this life one manages to become highly spiritual and heroic, than in the next life the spirit of the new incarnation would be a heroic and spiritual person, with every ounce of integrity and courage and love that was found in the previous incarnation. This would be something to strive for. But to suggest that what is gained in this life is merely information stored in the great hard drive in the sky, and is merely accessed by the reincarnation in some degree is not my definition of an evolving spirit. Hunter Maybe Billy has referred to something like this but as yet I have not found it, and am not finding much help through other members here because they do not respond well to the questioning. "Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth." Contact 18:62 | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 05-2008 |
Its also possible since that pilot died when he very young, (only 22 or so) that it would be unnecessary to spend the suggested 150 years digesting lessons learned. I don't know if there's a mathematical formula, such as 1.5 X years lived = time in the beyond, but I would assume a 20-30 year lifespan does not need 150 years between lives. |
