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Ramirez
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 06:42 pm: | 
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Michael.
It probably was. During his final days Ashtar Sheran attempted to at least do something worthwhile and change his behaviour.
This may have been one of the strategies.
Who was responsibe matters litle.
The important thing is that even such a poorly facilitated attempt in a limited localized area received huge public attention.
I'm sure a modest number of drone telemeter discs strategically positioned could saturate & overwhelm the major broadcasting networks.
Cheers.
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Behzad
Member
Post Number: 70
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 05:52 am: |
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Very Dear Comrade Rod
Ya I got it now, many thanks
Regard
Salome Friends
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Getknowledge
Member
Post Number: 30
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 02:28 pm: |
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I hope someone can help me with this: i understand the how and why we are spiritually ignorant (because of malevolent ETs and falsified spiritual-teachings). Just from reading the chronology of earth history, i dont really understand the how and why the general public have amnesia and a blank in the memory about ETs and our origin(s). Especially with the yellow race whom are fairly new to earth and arent really into christianity (even though they do have their religion). Can someone please fill in the blank about the how and when we got this amnesia about ETs, a truth with held from us thats old if not much older than religion?
Tien
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 815
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:43 am: |
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Hello Tien (Getknowledge),
In respect to the general ignorance and amnesia of the people, there are many 'reasons.'
Before the Current Era (BCE), which began around 12,000 years ago, Several civilizations right here on Earth had inter-stellar anti-gravity space vehicles. So all this was common knowledge among the people. After the destruction of Atlantis and Lemuria (MU), with the resultant subsidence of continental plates under the ocean waters, all advanced technology was lost.
Along with this destruction, the Earth poles shifted, the rotation changed very suddenly. This caused the oceans to leap their bounds - waters tend to maintain momentum in the same direction, spinning with the Earth at 1,000-MPH. The DELUGE of the oceans swept over land masses at the same speed - 1,000-MPH, from the sudden pole shift. Imagine a Wall of salt water a mile or two high rolling over the lands with this velocity. All traces of any remaining cities, with THEIR technologies, vanished suddenly.
How sudden? Elephants in Siberia have been found with the food they were eating still in their mouths. Seashells may be found in the plains of Wyoming at 4,500- Ft elevation. I worked there 10-years for an oil/gas processor, found many seashells myself at 7,000-Ft elevation. Then, the the Ice-age set in, to last for several thousand years. Handfuls of survivors were spared which lived then in all the high mountain ranges on Earth. Remember Urk, the hunter, dug out of the Ice in the high Alps. They also found copper implements with him, which completely baffles Archeologists. Scientists said copper tools were impossible in that age of man (ha-HA). Basic survival then was the name of the game. Weapons had to be made for hunting, and protection from predators also looking for meat, food. Stone and flint were easiest to make into spears, clubs, and arrow points. Once large enough groups of people came together, Copper being easy to smelt, was then made for the weapons, and as ornaments. Copper had intrinsic value for these things, so became used for trade in goods as "money." Then came Bronze, Iron and Steel. Some knowledge of medicines were retained and restored.
Finally some of the Humans which had escaped the initial destruction began to return to Earth. Along with them came several other races from the different Star systems, including the Plejarens. City building, sanitation, agriculture, and writing were restored to the now growing populations. The problem here, is the Returning ones and the other ETs set themselves up as gods to rule over the people. They imposed various religions on the people for control of the masses of the unruly. They used the aggressiveness of the Earth Humans to conduct warfare on each other, to keep the people off balance, and to extend their control over the areas of the other gods in competition for resources. They enslaved many to work in deep mines to bring precious metals - gold, silver, gems, &c in great quantities that were given over to the god overseers, much of which was then removed from Earth.
Of course, these gods and overlords would NOT SHARE any TECHNOLOGY with their Earthly underlings. The people knew about the spacecraft they saw coming and going, it was common Knowledge, but they were mostly in fear of them. The gods could rain massive deaths down on the people from these craft at any time, if they got 'out of line.' Think: Sodom and Gomorra, a city nuked in what is now Death Valley, A civilization and cities nuked in the area North from India. The technology of the gods was more lethal than that of the returned Earthlings and their flying machines/space craft. After the time of Jmmanuel, most of these 'gods' had left Earth along with their booty of treasures. The Early Emperors of China, did not want their people to be obedient or worshipful of those in their own history. Many books and documents in China were gathered and burned. The exception to those which left Earth, were the Bafath, as we know had their base under the pyramids. Occasional ETs came and went during the next two millennium.
The various ETs became VERY interested in us once we exploded our own nuclear weapons. Many were showing themselves all over the planet. Semjase indicated that more than a Billion people on Earth were eye-witnesses. The Secret Governments stepped in here with massive disinformation and debunking campaigns. Despite what so many people knew to be true about these ET craft, now given the silly name of 'flying saucers,' the disinformation and debunking caused the people to be fearful of an ''invasion." The controls imposed on the media kept all news of them away from the people. The secret agencies went so far as to commit murders of people 'in-the-know' from spilling the beans - or telling what they knew. The lid was clamped down over the whole of the people of Earth = England, Canada, Russia, France, many other nations, and especially the USA. Anyone talking about the craft, the 'flying saucers, were ridiculed, and made to look like fools. All this together caused people to forget about it, thus the general amnesia. And also the reason so much grief was heaped on Billy when he came forth with his "crackpot notions" of Humans from the 'Pleiades.' The debunkers went into high gear on this one, which is why so many people come only slowly to understand the Spiritual Teachings, the knowledge of Creation, which are the central point of the mission of FIGU.
Hope this helps you to understand the problems.
Peace
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Getknowledge
Member
Post Number: 32
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 03:21 pm: |
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J_rod7,
Thank you for trying to explain, i know its complex. The burning of books and documents is a reasonable explanation. As you explained, civilizations along with ETs have came and gone...but since there were always survivors and continual ET visitations that still doesnt answer the question as to why theres no general knowledge about ETs among the mass. What specifically caused the circumstances that allowed or gave way for our current various governments to be able to spread dis-info, due to our memory lose from when it was common knowledge. I think, its like, that memory has been wiped out en mass...perhaps by advanced technology, similar to what the Plejaren did with some folk's memory concerning the knowledge of a certain tree's existence from one of Billy's photos.
Tien
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 132
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 12:48 am: |
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Getknowledge.
The Disclosure Project .... explaining ET secrecy.
http://www.disclosureproject.org/index.shtml#Whats%20New
The latest 2009 .PDF with very specific details .... this answers your questions.
http://www.disclosureproject.org/PDF-Documents/Energy.pdf
Cheers.
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1383
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 04:17 am: |
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Hi Tien....
First of all, if I may add, is...that thousands of years back in time, the
settled as well as Refugee ETs at some times have had confrontations with each
other. And these confrontations, were War-like, and with the utilization of
Nuclear Weapons! And, as I understand it to be, was, that the ETs whom
survived these inhumane events, lost practically all knowledge of their
Technologies and related Science, etc. And as result: they were literally put
back into the Stone Age, so to speak, and had to start all over again.
Thus, they have to evolve themselves back to a level in which they gradually
evolved themselves to an average (functioning) civilization. This took of
course, many hundreds if not thousand of years, to progress themselves to a
livable living human species. And as time went bye, they did...forget their
past origin, as being human beings from outer space.
Here, is where the - amnesia - take hold of their existence. Only, slight
remembrance of their outer space origin, would be found in the leftovers, say, ancient structures like those in Pyramid format (even in China!), as is know all over the world. But, only....the interpretation of these ancient ruins were still of great 'confusion' for them, still.
And in time, the Malicious ETs whom came to Earth would just enhance their
ignorance, due to enslaving these humans...and portraying themselves as Gods.
And of course, the offspring of the humans to be made slaves, only 'degraded'
in their thinking (process) and kinda became 'backwards and ignorant' at the
same time.
The rest, speaks for itself, Tien. Many of these groups of people just lacked
behind, and literally had to start all over again, as I mentioned before.
And so, now, a days, they have to find back their Extraterrestrial 'roots' of
origin, once again. And, let the amnesia...once and for all...disappear.
The above mentioned would also apply to your mentioned 'yellow' race, among
others. But, I have read in books in the past and seen on documentaries, of ET
links with the Chinese people. Ancient drawings and paintings of their Gods,
or Wisemen...hovering on cloud formation, and looking down on the people below
them. Thus, it is...recorded, but not acknowledged as it should be, as it
being related to Extraterrestrial Origin.
But, in general, the Yellow race has brought many positive Philosophies and
teachings with them, and medication aspects, etc...which are of great value,
today. So, they did not loose...all their ET civilization traditions. [At this
time, we can make out them being able to tap into their own Storage Banks, to
progress their evolution processing, as well as perhaps receiving (ET)
impulses, just as others do over our globe; these impulses would not be
limited to just only one race of people, I would add.]
So, in general, they as well as all humanity of Earth, are opening their eyes
again, thanks to Billy, of their/our ET origins, and the amnesia will be lost
and gone...before we know it! And we are back on the right track, once
again.....
Positively, there will be no scenario which is related to the beginning of
what I wrote, Tien(; Nuclear War of the world countries). If so, perhaps, we
will be back...into the same scenario as mentioned above, alas?
Edward. |
Getknowledge
Member
Post Number: 33
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 03:26 pm: |
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Ramirez,
Thanks for the links. The project is awesome and well planed out, i hope that Obama, who can and will provide the much needed assistance, thinks the same. I went through those documents already, but they only explain the current situation or scenario of the last 50 years or so and not the back history, like what Billy has to provide.
Edward,
Okay i see now because you drove home the point that J_rod7 wanted to portray...its been a long, twisty cycle on a disfunctional planet...now that there is FIGU, the cycle will finally be broken...given that Billy is right about everything. At the moment, its just to a few people who take his words as true. So far he has helped a lot so thats very good prospect.
Thanks.
Tien
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 865
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 07:13 pm: |
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*****
Best Greetings to All,
In regard to recent disclosures of the ET presence and influence on Earth, is a recently released book The Catchers of Heaven by Dr. Michael Wolf.
One comment from Richard Boylan, Ph.D made on Amazon.com about this book follows:
[ "The Catchers of Heaven" is a blockbuster tell-all book by a scientist on the National Security Council's secret subcommittee that manages UFO matters. From his position on the executive committee of what is popularly known as MJ-12, Dr. Michael Wolf was in a position to know virtually everything about UFOs and extraterrestrial contact with Earth over the last 50 years.
"In amazing first-person chapters, he talks about not only working side-by-side with extraterrestrial consultants at covert government laboratories, but of developing personal friendships with them. His account of a classified meeting in London attended by military intelligence representatives from developed countries, and including the Vatican, gives a fascinating glimpse into the day-to-day struggle to coordinate world policy on how to manage extraterrestrial contact.
"But this is an intensely personal book as well. In many chapters Dr. Wolf reveals his intense emotions. There is passionate love for his wife, son and unborn child, martyred by terrorists seeking retribution for Wolf's work helping Israeli Intelligence.
"There is sadness for humanity's folly, as we pollute our Earth with industrial waste and fratricidal wars. There is joy for the vast expansive cosmic future that is within our grasp, if we but live up to our spiritual potential.
"The Catchers of Heaven" is at once a kiss-and-tell book disclosing top secrets about government-UFO contact, a lyrical and poignant biographical statement, and a message of hope to the generation of children who will live the cosmic future this book outlines. As an internationally recognized researcher into ET-human contact, I rate it the most important UFO book published to date. - Richard Boylan, Ph.D." ]
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In my search to purchase this book, I find it is available in a trilogy from collectors, for USD $225. A little steep for me, but I might spring for it yet. There are several other books from Dr. Wolf still available from Amazon, at "normal" prices.
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You may read a complete synopsis of the work of Dr. Wolf (highly recommended reading) at this link:
http://www.all-natural.com/mikewolf.html
In Peace ... Salome
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Schantz
Member
Post Number: 76
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 01:06 pm: |
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Rod,
Are you serious? Maybe you should read this before spending your money.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_432 |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 871
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 04:13 pm: |
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*****
Thank you Schantz,
Yes, you are correct. This Mr. (used-to-be-Dr) Boylan is a delusional character, totally full of his own self, in retreat from reality. I really could care less about Boylan.
It is the work of Dr. Michael Wolf, and the book he has published, which most interest me. Dr. Wolf is who he says he is (was, he died in year 2000 or 2001). He was in the very highest position of the MJ-12 organization, advisor to presidents, and was deeply involved in the "Black-Ops Projects" at Edwards AFB, Area 51, and S-4.
There IS an ongoing disclosure of all these heretofore secret projects and UFO knowledge which has been hidden from the public the past 60-years. This disclosure is proceeding at a "snails-pace" in order to prepare the Humans on Earth for the knowledge of the ET presence among us, their interaction with us, and the technology derived so far. Dr. Wolf has been on the "inside" of all this since the Early 1940's. I think he has something worthwhile to contribute to the ongoing disclosure agenda. Seriously.
Peace
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1759
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 08:29 pm: |
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Rod,
I listened to an audio interview of Mr. Wolf and came away thinking here is another person promoting himself with false, unfounded claims in an attempt to gain popularity and a false sense of importance. When I hear individuals state the Government entered into agreement with the "Grey's", and knowing what Billy has stated regarding the "Grey's" this sets off my BS detector into overdrive. Why do you present this type of tripe on this forum?
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 873
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 09:01 pm: |
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Scott,
Well, I find personal interest in this aspect of the disclosure agenda. My thinking is that others might also find some interest here. If your opinion is that is is tripe, so be it. Everyone is free to judge for themselves. Even Samjase stated that there were some ET factions over which they could not penetrate their actions.
Knowledge is meant to open doors to perception. Do we wait for reality to hit us on the head to know what it is? I say: NO, we seek to know the known within the unknown, and by virtue of discernment, to separate Truth from unTruth. Let Logic and Spirit be the guide in the Intuition. How else should we make progress? We must sift through a lot of dirt to find Diamonds.
Peace
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Schantz
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 10:59 pm: |
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Rod,
Why did you highly recommend the information in your post # 865 to this forum?
One minute your promoting this nonsense and the next minute you are condeming the same information.
Are you trying to confuse people here or are you confused?
For someone who promotes himself here on the forum with so much knowledge you seem to be way off track.
If you say that I'm making a blatant false accusation against your person here and you expect an apology from me if I have any honor then you really have missed the most basic teachings that Billy has to offer.
There will be no apologies from me and I hope you will stop whining and spreading false information here on this forum and getting your panties in a wad every time something doesn't go your way.
Maybe you should start reading and thinking about the material and quit writing about what you think you know. |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 11:03 pm: |
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I'm willing to doubt good intentions, however plausible they might seem other than ultimate material/financial gain in the long run.
But how do you do that without really first serving and feeding Mammon in your daily life?
Give unto Caesar's that is Caesar's and give onto our Higher Power that which is rightfully his/hers/it's just due!
Thought provoking, isn't it? But who am I to question, as such ... an ultimate authority of wisdom and knowledge?
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 69
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 11:46 pm: |
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..... Speak about tripe and the BS factor
Here is David Icke.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/10241/Why_we_don_t_believe_David_Icke_since_1991___1of3/
He open talks about how he is a higher evolved being and was made by a god..... If I understand his nonscence correctly. Also talks about Creation, well hes version of Creation.
He also talks about "Jesus" but in recent times has said "Jesus" never lived.
Thanks
Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence
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Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 70
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 11:49 pm: |
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Sorry here is the correct link for the amazing revelations of David Icke
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/10238/Why_we_don_t_believe_David_Icke_since_1991___1of3/
Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence
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Tachyon
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 05:20 am: |
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If the guy is dead you must wonder where the money is going. For such a "steep" price you should really be wondering, isn't this just for financial gain?
It seems someone is releasing someone else's information because that 'someone else' is seen as respected. It's like dead rappers coming out with new music.
Ben,
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 149
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 05:46 am: |
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Amazing indeed. Good find Stephen_moore 
Cheers.
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Schantz
Member
Post Number: 79
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 09:56 am: |
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Rod,
Take your dirt somewhere else and keep this diamond of a forum related to FIGU and Meier material. This forum is not here for you to highly recommend and promote other nonsense and steer people away from the truth, especially when the person has called Billy a liar. Forum readers can find plenty of that crap on the internet without your direction. I were a moderator your post would not have seen the light of day. |
Michael
Member
Post Number: 777
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 10:16 am: |
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It seems to me that among the problems with the claim that some "aliens" made agreements with the U.S. military, etc., is the idea that a highly technologically advanced race that could traverse vast distances in space would NEED to enter into any such agreements, with anyone, to do anything they wanted to do.
Really, where is the logic in that?
Michael Horn
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Michael
Member
Post Number: 778
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 10:35 am: |
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Let's not get mean spirited with each other and thereby show that we are contaminated by the things and people we are critical of.
Michael Horn
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 875
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 11:52 am: |
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*****
Very many human beings are not themselves because they adopt as their own the thoughts, feelings and machinations of others, whereby they degenerate to anger, joylessness, hate, sorrow and worries, etc. Generally, the human being does not understand that when he is raked over by others with bad words and actions, absorbs these in himself and makes them his own, he is not himself anymore, but he becomes an imitation of one who causes him harm or damage in any form. --- Billy
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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