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Thomas
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Post Number: 707
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 01:42 pm: | 
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It is a confirmed "mockumentary" apparently.=A0 Read the comments a couple = of pages in under the video...
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 05:55 pm: |
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video of possible multitude of swarming insects glowing and pulsating in very big swarms indeed - tho perhaps just a natural occurance is all - yet still being mistaken for ufos -
also with lovely nice relaxing music - very calming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krKZsV_viME&feature=fvw |
Peacelovefreedom
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 08:24 am: |
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I have some questions about studying and learning about nature. From Goblet of Truth, I can see that it is important to learn laws of nature.
Do you have idea on what is the best way to study nature on Earth? I am not sure if they are written in biology text books. I would like to know what it means when Nokodemion said that. Thanks. |
Memo00
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Post Number: 387
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 08:23 am: |
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Hello Peacelovefreedom
the best way to learn from Nature is plain and simple neutral observation of the natural world wherever man hasnīt intervened. Go to any remote place and open your senses to the beauty of Creation. It doesnīt matter where you look at, the only thing you can see is beauty, harmony, peace, creativity, abundance, love (unity), in short a relative perfection.
Billy has explained several times that there isnīt a single way of doing things that works for everyone so you have to find your own path, but definitely all of Billyīs teachings are a great guide and help for all of us.
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Rarena
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Post Number: 488
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:30 pm: |
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Peacelovefreedom,
Nice to converse with you...
What is your name?
Mine is Randy. How are you?
More important than learning about nature is it's parent called The Creation. It is my understanding nature is more of a planetary/material aspect and only a small part of The Creation.
As to how, well we have a very good teacher, Billy Meier whose forty five or so books and periodicals are available at FIGU.org. I would suggest reading Billy's Ten Semjase Contact books first and if you don't read German, than Guido Moosbruggers' book entitled And Still They Fly... for a start...
Happy studying... |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1045
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 01:58 pm: |
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Hello PeaceLoveFreedom, Peace Be With You
In certain aspects, Nature reflects the Creation to our consciousness. To Observe the Natural World in all it's beauty, is the reflection of the beauty in the Creation.
To become aware of the CYCLES in Nature -- the cycles of life, death and regeneration -- gives us the clues to our own cycles, as we Humans are embedded within Nature by virtue of our Material bodies.
The Human Being is the OMEDAM on Earth, as everywhere else in the Universe.
This means: OM =laws of creation, (E) DAM = Fulfiller, = Responsible for fulfillment of the Laws of Creation.
Humans were created as Fulfiller of the laws of creation and as the protector and manager of all fauna and flora of this very planet. This is a universal law of Creation in which we have to fulfill our key position on this planet in order to evolve.
So more than being a part of Creation, thus a part of Nature, we Humans are responsible for the care of Nature as well as being the Carriers of Creations Laws to be Fulfilled wherever we call our Home (this Earth at this Time).
THIS is why we are advised to study, observe and learn Nature directly. More than being "good for the Spirit," is the obligation as OMEDAM for the Evolution of our Spirit, to fulfill our responsibilities which include the Nature.
Salome
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Edward
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Post Number: 1488
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 04:09 am: |
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Hi Peacelovefreedom....
I would think you could just look around you, and you can witness Nature at
her best! All you perceive, manifest according to her own (Creational) laws,
which is: Natural. Also, based on Consequence(s) - Cause and Effect.
But, as Jmmanuel also makes clear: is that where ever MAN dwells...Destruction
will manifest, which is Natural (of course)...a Natural manifestation of MAN,
BUT, in a most utmost Ignoramus Stupidious fashion! Just, as would be -
Natural Barbarism -. The killing of his own species in a most utmost Ignoramus
Stupidious fashion. Hence, it does not have to manifest/occur in such fashion,
but alas, it is due to his Ignorant Evolution level that proceeds him in such
fashion.
One should manifest, in the Opposite fashion as mentioned above, which is also
within the framework of Nature and Natural manifestation. Which is executed
within the framework of: Common Sense, Logic and Reason. Through such
framework One can Create Harmony in a much more Natural fashion and achieve
an Equilibrium, as is intended by (The) Creation: The Mother of all that is
Natural and of Nature.
Thus: utilize all that is Natural and of Nature in a most utmost (Neutral)
Positive fashion, and Wisely, than...you Comprehend the Laws Of Nature, at her
best.
Edward. |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1048
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:29 am: |
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Best Greetings All, as-Salamu Alaykum
It is NOT "NATURAL" for Humans: "...that where ever MAN dwells...Destruction will manifest, which is Natural (of course)...a Natural manifestation of MAN..." This comes from a lack of understanding into the True Nature of Human Kind.
The Human IS the OMEDAM = Responsible for fulfillment of the Laws of Creation. This holds True for ALL Human Beings everywhere throughout the Universe, and on Earth.
That the Humans on Earth have devolved into the barbaric destructive condition, is due to the loss of the Spiritual Truth among those in ancient times. This results from those Space-faring Humans which came to Earth and set themselves up as 'gods' above the EarthHuman. Such 'gods' suppressed the Spiritual Truth, creating priesthoods to set up religions to obey the 'gods'. Such 'gods' commanded blood and warfare from their subject populations. Due to the prior manipulation of our genetics by the Sirian Overlords, the EarthHumans were more than happy to oblige their new 'gods'.
This is the reason for the mission from the Plejarens, the mission of Billy, the mission of FIGU, to restore the TRUTH of the Spirit and the Laws of Creation to the EarthHuman.
Salome
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1050
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 09:58 pm: |
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The full Moon tonite has very Rare Qualities.
Seen from my location, on the Nature Coast of Florida, the Moon has a lovely golden aura, and encircled with a complete rainbow, from the red out to the violet bands.
Just to share with you all. Best wishes for Wisdom and Love.
*****
TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 05:24 am: |
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Hi all
Within 2 months 3 whales have stranded themselves on the coasts of England
Whale dies in Somerset estuary after failed jetski rescue attempt 31 August
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/aug/31/minke-whale-parrett-estuary-somerset
Humpback whale found dead in Thames 14th September
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/14/dead-humpback-whale-in-thames
Gilbert the whale washes up dead at Bournemouth 22nd September
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/22/gilbert-whale-dead-bournemouth
Ptaah from contact 249
Ptaah:
...For decades now he has been under the steady, greatly enhanced influence of artificial electro-magnetic waves, or rather oscillations, which greatly exceed the normal, planet-related measurements and are generated by Man's own thoughtlessness. As a consequence, he is now, and has been for some time, incapable of applying and relying on his magnetic sense. Hence, he can no longer recognize, grasp and perceive many items and events in nature in the manner that animals are able to, although their magnetic sense is increasingly harmed also through the irresponsibility of mankind on Earth. Birds and animals, for instance, are guided by their magnetic sense during their annual migrations or flights from one region to another when they frequently traverse many thousands of kilometers.
The longer they are exposed to this electromagnetism, the more the magnetic sense of orientation of these migratory animals and birds is upset and causes their death for many of them. Whales, for instance, lose their orientation and become stranded somewhere on river banks or in the rivers, where they die a terrible death; a situation that is increasingly becoming more common even for other aquatic wildlife forms. With increasing frequency, herds of many wild animals are losing their sense of orientation because their magnetic sense is upset. This causes them to flee and plunge, panic-stricken, over cliffs and crevasses to their death, etc. Thunderstorms, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, as well as other great calamities of nature's elements also produce increased magnetic waves or oscillations. Animals and birds sense these increased electro-magnetic oscillations and behave accordingly. They flee or seek sanctuary elsewhere.
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Our use of technology and HAARP which is producing electromagnetic waves is seriously effecting these Whales. In May 55 Whales died on a beach near Cape Town.
This along with the slaughter of Whales, Dolphins and other Ocean creatures is alarming. How long will it be before the extinction of these beautiful creatures becomes a reality? Will humans on Earth wake up in time and become aware of the dangers these animals are under due to our own actions.
Thanks
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Adysor
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 06:40 pm: |
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Hi,
This is very disturbing news, for the wales I mean. The explication that Ptaah gave(supposedly) may be likely, I don't know; I am not knowledgeable in that field. I would suppose that this has much to do with radio waves and such and such. If so, then the energy and money put into these kind of things are so big that I don't see how it can be undone or reduced. It is increasing always with globalization and new advances in technology and gadgets which are somehow useful for daily and research life. The reduction of the man-made electro-magnetic waves would mean tremendous economic losses. If you look anywhere in the world. Economy is either the secondary or primary factor of a country.
I guess it all comes down to overpopulation. These waves are in so much quantity because the population demands it someway or another. So if not through birth control over time then through tremendous natural or man-made destruction.
So let's kill ourselves in order to still be able to eat whales!! (sarcastic and not an option  , for me at least)
Adrian.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1492
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 04:36 am: |
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Hi All....
NATURALLY....: IT IS NATURAL!!
ALL...within Nature IS....Natural!
HOW do you think, the so-called GODS....became as they did!
By their OWN doings!
Even though, they were not influenced by whom ever! They just Degraded in
their MINDS/evolution....and found out that they could Enslave their fellow
humans, as they did. [THEY Degraded, which IS NATURAL!; and where they
dwell...Destruction will manifest(; where ever, in the Universe); even this,
is still...within the Creational framework.]!!
The opposing comments, to mine...is due to lack of past history....of what is
mentioned and concerning! The individual, must conduct much more deeper
studies of this before he..."assumes" being correct with his comments.
Even thought, OMEDAM...explains what is mentioned and which can not always
be implemented by humans: Evolution has a FREE Hand in implementing in
which ever way/direction...she desires! Free Will and Self Determination...!! [With
or without...GOD pretenders.....Whom distanced themselves from Creational
Spiritual Teachings...Consciously or Unconsciously(Ignorance)!! Humans have
(always) Degraded...way before there were definitions as: GODS. Through:
Natural Barbarism! Which IS Natural, and which EVERY humans species experiences throughout their evolution, in the Universe!! NO exceptions......]
You either...Upgrade...or Degrade.....: Which IS NATURAL.....!! And in/is the
NATURE of MAN.....
Edward. |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1064
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:23 pm: |
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Hello Edward, Best greetings in Peace
An interesting perspective in your 'take' on the Nature of Humankind. Please do not think that everything here is any "opposition" to your thinking, Your Opinions are worthy of consideration, young man. Stop frothing at the mouth when you encounter difficulties in your life, and get yourself back to a neutral-positive balance.
We here, members of FIGU, and the mission of FIGU itself, face an uphill struggle to bring the awareness of the Truth of the Spiritual Teachings to all our fellow Human Beings on Earth. An ongoing effort, to take another 800-years, and many tears of both sadness and joy, before this is fully realized.
So it would seem, those impostors which passed themselves to Earth Humans as 'gods' in the past were themselves the true 'barbarians.' How do you suppose they became that way?
This was no de-evolution surely, and could only come from an absence of complete Logical Thinking on their part. They fell short, in other words, for they must have had some awareness of the Creation as greater than themselves.
What is your thinking on this? Speculation is acceptable.
Peace
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Adysor
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:17 am: |
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Hey,
May I join the discussion?
From Oxford online dictionary...
Barbarous = 1 exceedingly cruel. 2 primitive; uncivilized.
Being cruel is 1 disregarding or taking pleasure in the pain or suffering of others. 2 causing pain or suffering.
Yep, barbarous only applies to human beings because they have what is called thinking. I doubt animals can be barbarous. But is that the nature of the humankind? I think you can say it's the nature of human thinking to be barbarous. To counter that, you need rules. You need to draw a line and compare/use as a reference point to other actions; calling them barbarous or civilized. "Do not do this, do not do that..." because that is not what you are supposed to do; you have to be perfect(first you need an idea of what perfection is).
"They fell short, in other words, for they must have had some awareness of the Creation as greater than themselves."
As I said, the human draws a line and call it Creation or God or Perfection, in the hope to stop the unjustified killings. Seeing that as higher than themselves and as an achievable and desirable goal. But the goal doesn't need to be valid or true because he can't know unless he gets to it. Whatever mysterious experiences they have, they attribute that to God/Creation/Spirit and so they keep looking for it in the hope that someday they will find it; not knowing what that really is for sure. And so he keeps going and going until he dies or gives up... And his followers have the same hope also, and they practice all kinds of rituals because they really want perfection. And "prophets" appear in the world to inspire people because many have given up hope and are more concerned with the material things because they are visible and manipulable. The prophets tell them to leave the material things because he reminds them of the "ultimate" goal: to attain that perfection, be with Creation or God. And seeing that for years and years they are practicing and praying and nothing much happens. They go wage war over the holy cities and holy artifacts, because they hope that these will bring them closer to the goal. They hope to uncover more mysteries of Creation/God and how to attain the perfection. He thinks God/Creation will help him because he is better than his neighbor and the animals and plants. He thinks he is made with something special which no one else has. But somehow it's not easy for him to get in touch with it. He has many problems and thinks that special which is inside or outside him can make those problems vanish and never come back again; he doesn't want to deal with those problems over and over again. He is bored and he wants something more. He wants that which the prophets have promised him. This hope rose with the man who said that there is something higher than himself and that we can attain that. That seems to be the nature of the humankind.
Speculations?
Adrian.
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Paarth
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:59 am: |
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Dear Edward,
I think it is worth pointing out that once again your confused and ambivalent logic leads yourself to insecurity and pointless disputes. Stop telling other people to "conduct much more deeper studies of this..." You continue to display a lack of ability to learn from previous mistakes and therefore it seems you are content to continue making them and going through a cycles of self-ego building followed by ego-stripping and humiliation.
The following illustrates that none of us has it completely right, at least not yet.
Basic Rules of Man by Billy
"Each human being shall see and know himself as he really is; therefore he shall not think of himself as a perfect world for this is not possible for any person because each one must learn and, consequently, is exposed to mistakes and imperfection. Therefore, it is not possible that everything is clear within the human being, (and) that everything is right and that he is better than his fellow-human being."
Again stop telling other people to study more. They will study on their own if they see fit, as you do.
Salome
Paarth |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1066
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 09:38 pm: |
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Hi Adrian,
Yes, certainly, jump right in, you do make some worthy contributions, despite your reticence to "commit" yourself yet to the Spiritual aspects of the Mission.
Allow my repetition of the statement and question which was addressed to Edward, looking for your opinion here: ...
So it would seem, those impostors which passed themselves to Earth Humans as 'gods' in the past were themselves the true 'barbarians.' How do you suppose they became that way?
This was no de-evolution surely, and could only come from an absence of complete Logical Thinking on their part. They fell short, in other words, for they must have had some awareness of the Creation as greater than themselves.
The"gods"of yore, early in the recorded history, most certainly came here in their "Chariots-of-Fire" from another civilization with the obvious technical achievements of Space-Flight machines. Before Moses, they passed themselves (himself (?) ) as 'gods'. That one presented itself as Jehovah (Yahweh). Now the name = Yahweh does sound SIMILAR to Allah, for which the Hebrews at the time probably heard wrongly or mis-interpreted. Could possibly be one and the same (?).
I would NOT say that one was any "King-of-Wisdom," considering his bloodthirsty demand for the Hebrews to kill all those before them in the lands of Canaan -- men, women and children -- how 'Barbaric' was THAT to command the death of an entire peaceful nation so the Hebrews could occupy the land.?!!?
What is your thinking on this? Speculation is acceptable.
Paarth, Spot-On there. 
Peace / Out
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 255
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:13 pm: |
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I was going to make a comment, but I think I'll hold it before someone analyzes my character and makes me froth at the mouth . |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 04:12 am: |
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Stephen_moore, or anyone knowledgable
There is a guy who is coming off as some professor and giving counter points to ALL warnings about HAARP.
Said the ionosphere is NOT fragile. The impact of solar radiation from the sun is far more dangerous than the amount of energy used by HAARP. And the ionosphere heals itself afterward. Completely rejects Billy's explanation as a conspiracy theory and seudo-science.
Last comment, "You can't prove a negative.
But two important points here:
1. There's every indication that the (whale) strandings are a completely natural phenomenon. They've happened since always, and they never happen where the earth's magnetic lines run parallel to the coastline.
2. The experiments run at HAARP are short, and very infrequent. And the energy in the signals that reach the earth from the ionosphere is too low to impact life."
He doesnt see the connections. How would you respond?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4
Tien
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 06:19 am: |
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Let us take a moment ... to reflect:
I have been studying the traits and dispositions of the "lower animals" (so called) and contrasting them with the traits and dispositions of man. I find the result humiliating to me.
MARK TWAIN, Letters from the Earth
Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person.
MARK TWAIN, Mark Twain's Notebook
The common eye sees only the outside of things, and judges by that, but the seeing eye pierces through and reads the heart and the soul, finding there capacities which the outside didn't indicate or promise, and which the other kind couldn't detect.
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First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Adysor
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:41 pm: |
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Hi Bronzedesk,
"The common eye sees only the outside of things, and judges by that, but the seeing eye pierces through and reads the heart and the soul, finding there capacities which the outside didn't indicate or promise, and which the other kind couldn't detect."
You are just saying that...it has no meaning. (Not to mention that you can't read a heart, much less reading a soul)
Hi J_Rod,
Your opinion about the old Gods is certainly a possibility although it is inspired by what Meier said. If anything wrong happened is because of the thirst of man for power, not barbarism. I doubt that anyone sane enough will kill for no reason. Clearly there was the seeking of power and domination involved. The killing is probably the means to get to that power if there is no surrender. The idea that Hebrews are the chosen ones by God is just another boost to make them fight more. I don't think that it is solely the fault of the gods coming from the "Chariots of Fire" but also the people who followed them. The Hebrews were the ones with the hunger for power and control. Otherwise they wouldn't go occupy the lands and in the process kill people. I wouldn't say the Hebrews are the only ones with that hunger...but everyone, even today, the whole purpose of Nations is to acquire more and more power. They will help themselves by ultimately occupying the world so that their rules are in order; the rules of their liking. It hasn't been fulfilled yet because there is always opposition. The Russians for example don't want the rules and laws of the American government in their nation. They don't even want their way of life.
Probably, if this whole thing about gods and holy lands miraculously disappear from the memory of people a great good is done. But I don't think wars will stop. If I was a traditional genuine god I would just give people sticks to fight with and that's all. Even then people will be killed gruesomely. All the wars are born from ideas. Ideas that this land should belong to me not to you. The idea that god intended this land for our people not your people; the idea that your rules are not correct and for that we will impose our fair rules over your people because we are more evolved and so on...
I cannot say that this will be the future but this is very likely how the past was. Wars over political, religious and philosophical ideas. I don't think this was survival of the fittest because wars were not always for survival but for "growth". Nations and empires always wanted to grow. But to grow more than what you already have is to steal from the neighbor, right?
Anyway J_Rod, your opinion is just as valid as mine.
Adrian.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1067
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 01:09 pm: |
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Hi Tien,
That whole bit is DISINFORMATION, from a guy working for the makers of the HAARP.
It would be useless to debate those guys.
Peace
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1068
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 03:00 pm: |
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Hi Mark,
(LOL) -- Your rights are unassailable, and Your Character is Meritorious.
Then, to "cross-the-line-of-fire," The Shield of Spirit, the Light of the Sohar, and the Sword of Truth give you safe passage.
So do enter the Fray at any point in the Hyper-Space here.  
Peace Be With You
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1069
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 04:30 pm: |
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Hi Adrian,
You speak truth here: ... "...the old Gods is certainly a possibility although it is inspired..."
We should then ask -- from where came the real 'barbarians'?
Those which migrated to the Star of Sirius had lost their propensity for violence or barbarity. Then those same ones saw a threat of interstellar war and annihilation sweeping towards them from across the Galaxy. For their defense, the Sirians then manipulated the genetic composition of our very distant ancestors to become aggressive fighters on their behalf... This was the origin of our own tendency for barbarism, UN-NATURAL CHANGES.
Then the question ... Was it possible that our own ancestors could have destroyed the barbarians sweeping towards the Sirian Overlords from the depths of Space? Was it our 'kind' which ended the aggressors war? After such wars, our 'kind' became superfluous and a danger to the OverLords, by which they chose to eliminate our 'kind'. Our surviving ancestors escaped, with the assistance of those among the Sirians opposed to our annihilation. Many of them escaped to this Solar System and settled here.
These settlers, absorbing others from Lyria and other Stars, rose to great heights in civilized advances in Mu, Atlantis, India, and across the Earth. Warfare broke out amongst these, and the great civilizations were lost from the records, to fade into the mists and myths of time. We became "fair-game" for the later "gods" which came to Earth in their own lust for Power, territory, and bloodshed, which went beyond those "holy-lands." The rest is recorded history.
The 'future' does look brighter ... our scientists have decoded the entire DNA code, and the 'mysteries therein have been revealed. There is the hush of expectation now, as they close-in on the aggressor genes. Add in the Spiritual Truths returned to the Earth Humans, and the 'future' becomes brighter still,
Peace
*****
TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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