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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Edward,

We would defeinately need to stop this Red Meteor which is heading towards us.

Is there no detail on when, roughly, it may arrive?

Maybe when it arrives, we will advance to such a state that we can deflect its path, hopefully.
If not, then I think we will need to leave the planet, if and only if, its destruction is too large.

If it is controlable, we can get things back in hand again.

Salome
Aditya
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Unluckyguy26
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Badr,
those links you gave me certainly are quiet good. i just got done looking up the info and its really impressive im definitely going to use that more often.(didnt really use google much or youtube for that mater till i found about Billy) But now im gonna be translating everyday now.

THANKS
1luckyguy
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Edward
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Post Number: 978
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 03:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott....


The Destroyer, was indeed from a Natural Occurrence...swaying away from it's
natural system, when it collapsed; which is in details mentioned in Guido's
book.

But than, it also says, what I posted in reference to what Quetzal mentioned:

It was deflected from its original course, by the early ancestors, which
caused a considerable amount of damage in the Sol System which was not of a
Natural Cosmic Origin.[but in Quetzal's own words; AY...TF]


Thus, the Plejarans "Redirecting" it: had to do with the scenario related to
their early ancestors, as Quetzal explains very clearly, in AY....TF.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 979
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 04:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Aditya....

As far as I know, our scientists just have to keep their eyes open! And
indeed, take heed to this coming event.

As far as I know: we on Earth should have already Evolved ourselves into a
state of Evolution...far beyond, we are now; but, due to the circumstances we
are in today - Overpopulation...etc...; this has made our true path of
Evolving as we should, Delayed, alas.

If we were not in the circumstances we are now today: we would, even have
the possibility to, indeed...flee to another system, or what ever. But, seeing
this is not the case: we will have to cope with it, as it is...alas.

We can indeed, try to deflect it into another trajectory, but: if we do
this(successfully), it may in time...enter another system. And it would be
best, that it be a system which has no inhabited planets, if you will! If this
is the case: we will interact in the same manner as the Plejaran's ancestors
did, as Quetzal explained, with the Destroyer.


Thus, I guess, we could and try to dissolve it into smaller pieces, through
some modern technology, which has the possibility to do so. Thus, the
fragments would still be present in our system. Which may lead to another
astroid belt of some sort....in our system, perhaps.

Thus, again: we should ponder not to do....what the Plejaran's ancestors
executed in the past...as Quetzal explained, in relation to the Destroyer.


Edward.
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David_chance
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This post is in reference to Asteroid 1950 DA in Dyson/Vivienne's translation at: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/3549.html?1223368471#POST35229

See reference at: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/1950da/

Excerpt: "When high-precision radar measurements were included in a new orbit solution, a potentially very close approach to the Earth on March 16, 2880 was discovered to exist. Analysis performed by Giorgini et al. and reported in the April 5, 2002 edition of the journal Science..."

Note that this information wasn't published by Earth scientists until 2002 - the identical information was given to Billy 15 years prior.
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Edward
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Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi David....


Very True!

Excellent translation by D & V.

So, the 2029 asteroid, will not be of any threat to us, as it seems; which is
Positive. [With the knowledge it too, may enter within the Moon's trajectory
to Earth, as has been calculated(; Unless, Circumstantial Cosmic Alterations
occur; it be for the Positive or Negative(?).]

NO WAY, they(NASA & Scientists) can deny Billy and the Plejarans data on the
upcoming 2880 asteroid, not?


Edward.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.783c3aae6eb418393fc6f8c443ef6765.2f1

Space rock gives Earth a close shave

An asteroid of a similar size to a rock that exploded above Siberia in 1908 with the force of a thousand atomic bombs whizzed close past Earth on Monday, astronomers said on Tuesday.

2009 DD45, estimated to be between 21 and 47 meters (68 and 152 feet) across, raced by at 1344 GMT on Monday, the Planetary Society and astronomers' blogs reported.

The gap was just 72,000 kilometers (44,750 miles), or a fifth of the distance between Earth and the Moon and only twice the height of satellites in geosynchronous orbit, the website space.com said.

The estimated size is similar to that of an asteroid or comet that exploded above Tunguska, Siberia, on June 30 1908, flattening 80 million trees in a swathe of more than 2,000 square kilometres (800 square miles).

2009 DD45 was spotted last Saturday by astronomers at the Siding Spring Survey in Australia, and was verified by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Centre (MPC), which catalogues Solar System rocks.

The closest flyby listed by the MPC is 2004 FU162, a small asteroid about six metres (20 feet) across which came within about 6,500 kms (4,000 miles) of us in March 2004.
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J_rod7
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Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Hello Earthling, Greetings to All

I have to wonder why there was no ADVANCE WARNING of this "Near-Hit." (IMO, 'near-miss' means "to-be-hit.") It should have been in the NEWS BEFORE 2009-DD-45 arrived. Did anyone see or hear any prior warning?

If the Big Red One arrives while I'm still alive, I would prefer to be standing at 'ground-zero.' That would be a fantastic sight to see that HUGE FIREBALL in the last 3-seconds. Would never feel anything ... !

Anyone on the opposite side of Earth then, will suffer very much from the effects of that blast.

Thinking of blast, I wonder when scientists, or anyone, will finally get the remains of that huge Space-Craft out of the bottom of the lake at Tugunska in Siberia. One of the last expeditions found a BIG chunk of it using side-scan sonar. Then they can finally drop the nonsense about an "asteroid strike."

Salome

*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Earthling
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Post Number: 208
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J_Rod7 - wasn't the tugunska space craft obliterated?
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 685
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

***
Earthling-
A very dense chunk, blasted from the ship, created an impact crater where before only a stream flowed through the Siberian forest. The stream then filled the crater to form the lake now there.

The dense chunk is very likely some part of the ships' engine or Star-Drive. This piece burrowed into the bottom of the impact crater in a direct line-of-sight from some elevation above the 'Zero-Point' of the explosion.

The sonar scan located this piece buried into the bottom of the North wall of the lake, buried under the mud-flow and landslides of the crater as it filled with water. It would require a huge effort to get to this piece for recovery.

Recovery would involve diverting the stream and draining the lake. The BIG problem - getting the heavy equipment in there in the first place - would need to build a road through a thousand miles or more of rugged pristine wilderness. There would be no justification for such an effort, as the chunk is likely blasted/melted beyond any use for study.

The only possible benefit is the metallurgy knowledge to gain - what it was made from. Obviously, this thing survived a nuclear fireball, so to speculate here = some form of "Neutronium" (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutronium ).
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Michael
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Post Number: 788
Registered: 10-2000
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm just going to stick this link here:

http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theories/88839-regarding-tunguska-etc.html

...and invite you all to take a look at a new discussion I started on a forum populated by aspiring astronomers of a skeptical nature.

(Message edited by scott on May 30, 2009)
Michael Horn
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 911
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Hello Michael,

What a FRAY over there on the BAUT Forum. You ought to go take a cold shower after all that. Worked up quite a sweat, yes?

I do have a background in the Sciences, but did not see any evidence of ALL those OPINIONATED SCIENTISTS following any logic in their attacks. Until such ones are able to even CONSIDER the evidence you already presented to them, let them stew in their juices for a while.

I even tried once to redirect attention back to the original point on Tunguska, but no takers. There is other evidence around that could be considered, in addition to that disclosed already from Billy.

For example, there is a small lake created about 2 or 3-Km to the NW from "ground-Zero." That lake is an impact crater, backfilled from a small stream, wherein is an anomaly with strong magnetic properties. The object has been detected with side-scanning sonar buried under the mudslides of the bottom-north wall of the lake. My speculation is: an extremely dense piece of the Star-Drive Engine, indestructible from the atomic blast.

There would need to be built a road several hundred miles through the dense Taiga, in order to get the heavy equipment in there to extract that thing. Anyone up to mounting an Expedition? The PROOF is still waiting.

Peace

*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Kingman
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Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The discussion has already gone the usual route towards unreasonableness. The forum controllers, having lost their control, intervene and enforce some lame reason why Michael must be made to 'simmer down!'.

The truth is not the point of that forum. Nothing new there.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Redbeard
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Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael probably had a pretty good idea going in that there would be immediate opposition and eventual termination of the subject altogether. I was pleased to see it go on as long as it has, as the subject is still yet on the table with many people of that forum reading it without posting.

This is exposure non the less, in a community that has a very strong belief system no different that religion. You have people that are required to fall in behind the leader and if you do think for yourself it must be in accordance with the acceptable rules of the cult, if you will.

There is not a lot of difference between descending from apes and God created everything 6000 years ago, it takes a lot of belief to make it float. Also you can see the underlying issue of attitude that we of earth are the center of the universe.

I am amazed that science can demand proof of others but not provide it for their own theories, well they do make it up sometimes if need be.

Good Job Michael

Matt B....
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rod.

You might find some interest in this interview about Tunguska by Valery Uvarov.
However he mentions even more interesting matters regarding energy defence systems & the healing properties of devices using crystals.

It's quite long. Part 1 is 1 hour 8 minutes. Part 2 is 43 minutes. Part 1 sets you back about 225 megs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw24ScW6VaI&feature=PlayList&p=C417CA9FD5C9B67A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0MaTaIS44&feature=PlayList&p=E12FF563B1852486&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=9
Cheers.
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Michael
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Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rod,

Way too much baby-sitting and spoon feeding necessary for all those "scientists" on that forum.

I wanted to experiment with trying to present the Meier info in as plain and logical way as I could, avoiding the characteristic nastiness of forums populated by know it all skeptics.

Well, perhaps some of them will look into it on their own.
Michael Horn
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Creational
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Post Number: 333
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Scott,

I hope this is the right area to post this. Please feel free to move it to the right place.
NASA is planning to bomb the moon!!!!!
I guess they are running out of resources here on Earth.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nasas-mission-to-bomb-the-moon-2009-06

Salome,
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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J_rod7
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Hi Zhila, Best greetings to All,

I watched the launch of the LCROSS mission on the TV. It's on the way to the moon now. October 8th is expected date for "the Bomb" to hit. Should be able to see from here with a decent telescope (I'll have mine up for that).

I have an opinion = STUPID IDEA.

WHY blast the moon at the South Pole with a missle? (What IF "SOMEONE" already has a base there? That would interpreted as a Hostile attack.!!!) The "Bomb" crater has a LOW probability of finding what they're "Looking for."

It would be MUCH more sensible to send an automated probe to the region. An automated probe, designed as a Geological Survey, similar to a "Mars-Rover," would be more logical. But NASA is not known for logical programs, thus huge cost over-runs with poor science is the result.

Water Ice would be expected in STRATA-layers some 40 to 200 meters below the surface, in dispersed pockets. These could be remnants of ice-ball comets or meteors, suitable for colonies as a water source. It will take a much better organized search to find such Ice Strata.

BOMB THE MOON? YEAH, right. Gimme a break.!!!

NASA, We would like our Tax-dollars BACK now.

*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a response to Charle's post post #78:

Thanks for that information from FIGU Bulletin #9 Charles. I did not have fears about "Planet X/Nibiru", I just brought it up because I thought of it as being something similar to The Destroyer (relevancy to discussion).

I had only read of "UNI" (as it then should be called) from Contact Report #228, in which Quetzal refers to it as "an uncommonly big comet" and never mentioned it was a planet, also it was not mentioned that it reached it's closest point to the sun in March 1997. So from my limited knowledge about UNI from CR#228, I did not know whether it was a possible threat (due to it being referred to as a comet) and did not know when it reaches it's closest point to the sun, so that is the information I was after. I knew that all the "Planet X/Nibiru" legends are false, which is something that is explained in CR#228 too.

Salome.
Reece Stiller
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Edward
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Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Reece....


Very true.

The whole - Planet X/Nibiru - is based on Earthman, Myths.

Also due to the ignorance of certain scientists and astronomers, of course,
whom conducted too much of their research in ancient folklore, and what not.

Which kinda threw them of track. [In some Sky Maps, the - Planet X/Nibiru - is
even mentioned/Shown; and even a download for Sky Map Simulators; which I even have!]

Quite a Bitter Pill for those whom still 'believe' she is a Planet (with moons)!


Positive for Quetzal for clearing up the mist.....


Edward.
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 172
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Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From Contact #150, Dated October 10, 1981

Quetzal:
489. The meteor mentioned in the prophecies, which proves to be of enormous size and will cause most severe destructions on the Earth, and which threatens to bring, aside from climatic and tectonic changes, also additional changes, will threaten to split the crust of the Earth from the present-day North Sea down to the Black Sea which, however, does not have to occur with absolute certainty, because certain factors speak against this; it approaches from the depths of outer space towards the SOL-system and is a so-called stranger.

Billy: You mean, that this does not refer to a known comet, which again and again passes our system on its path?

Quetzal:
490. That is correct, because the meteor travels on a path, which leads it to the SOL-system for the first time.

491. At earlier times, it was never in this area of space.

Billy: And its path shall end on the Earth? Could you not do anything about this?

Quetzal:
492. You know very well, that this will be the case and that we are not allowed to halt this event.

493. The cosmic powers have pre-programmed this event, which could only be stopped or prevented by Earth humanity themselves.

494.In their materialistic and misled disunity and in their megalomania, however, they disregard all warnings and prophecies, so that the event inevitably has to happen, as warning and as vengeance, if you want to see it that way; and as this warning and vengeance must occur, we are not allowed to take any steps in order to prevent the occurrence.

495. Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.

496. You stand in a lost position, like one calling in the wilderness, and only few are and will be willing to listen to your words, to grasp their meaning, to reflect about them and to learn how to act correctly.

497. Those who will not listen will find death in exchange, when the meteor begins its work of death and creates a new continent, due to an enormous crack of the Earth, from the North Sea to the Black Sea, from which will spew forth red hot lava, if the prophecy should be fulfilled in its entire proportions which, however, has not been determined in its final consequence. . .

Quetzal:
502. In reference to the event to be expected, and already told you, that this one will part the land portion between the North Sea and the Black Sea.

503. Red hot lava masses and Earth gas etc. will, in addition, create from it a deadly sulphurous wall which, drifting westward, will cover the land and with that creates an additional death-zone, if the prophecy should actually be fulfilled in its entirely, and if Earth humanity does not undertake something in unison to stop it.


Huge Asteroid 'Less Likely' To Hit Earth
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091008/twl-huge-asteroid-less-likely-to-hit-ear-3fd0ae9.html

Apophis was discovered in 2004 and is two-and-a-half times the size of an American football field.

There is now a one-in-250,000 chance of a collision with Earth in 2036, according to new calculations by Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in California.

This was sharply down from an earlier estimate of a one-in-45,000 chance.
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Cpl
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Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephen,

I hope they are right, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are wrong. I don't think any of our authorities would openly admit that we are going to have an impact with a large civilization-changing meteor if they knew it was going to happen. An announcement would just cause absolute havoc in the economy and markets to name just one area. They'd probably conclude we'd also have the Orson Wells panicked-populace scenario playing out. People would start demanding action and protection, "Where's my bolt hole?" Not everyone is as calm as the Figu forum folks.

IMO they'd wait until amateurs picked it up and use reports like the one you mention to excuse themselves for "not knowing" or that their readings had gone off somehow, or folks or machines "back then" were responsible for the oversight.

If they also don't mention 2029 -- the first time it arrives -- maybe their announcement is a half truth and the RM will collide in 2029 instead.

Anyway, I hope they are right, of course. I just wouldn't entrust my life to the accuracy of their announcements.

On another note re Tunguska: "A SCIENTIST is claiming a UFO deliberately crashed into a meteor to save Earth from destruction 100 years ago."

The world may be coming closer to Billy's explanation of the Tunguska explosion. All they have to do now is lose the meteor half of this new "explanation". If they now have this piece (or pieces) of hard alien craft evidence and no proof of a meteor Billy's version is almost proven: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/ufos/2451627/UFO-sacrificed-itself-for-us.html
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 50
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Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Chris,

This has already appeared in pravda.ru last year also that they have got some crystal like rocks with strange inscriptions in them.

Look at this:
http://www.impactlab.com/2007/05/19/artifacts-with-extraterrestrial-writings-discovered-near-tunguska-site-in-russia/

also
http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/104631-tunguska_meteorite-0

Not exactly the Plejaren version of the story with the Bardans, but getting near it.

Tschüß

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