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Phenix
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Post Number: 290
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 05:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings,

Michael,
The following links could be helpful:

- http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/04/climate-change-deniers-own-scientists-said-global-warming-was-real.php
('Climate change Deniers'Own Scientists Said Global Warming Was Real')
Briefly: "A few years after climate change denier the Global Climate Coalition began lobbying against doing anything about climate change their own scientific advisors told them that global warming was real." [...]

- http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462-climate-change-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.html
('Climate change: A guide for the perplexed' by Michael Le Page)
Briefly: "Our planet's climate is anything but simple. All kinds of factors influence it, from massive events on the Sun to the growth of microscopic creatures in the oceans, and there are subtle interactions between many of these factors.
Yet despite all the complexities, a firm and ever-growing body of evidence points to a clear picture: the world is warming, this warming is due to human activity increasing levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and if emissions continue unabated the warming will too, with increasingly serious consequences." [...]

- http://www.care2.com/news/member/194727002/1234699
('Sierra Club: Global Warming Deniers Are At It Again')
Briefly: "The US Chamber of Commerce is threatening to sue the EPA for accepting that climate change is real." [...]

You may also search for 'manmade global warming deniers' here: http://www.care2.com/find/site


Success and Salome,

Adam.
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Borthwey
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael;

I have done a search on global warming deniers recently; I would highlight these two articles for now:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2009/mar/06/climate-change-deniers-top-10

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jul/21/climatechange.carbonemissions1
David
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Mike
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Michael, hope you are well
I am just copying and pasting this information from post number 52 that I uploaded in 2007. It may not be what exactly you want but it will reinforce what Billy has been saying for many years and indeed what many climate scientists indirectly confirm. I hope this article is of interest to you.
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I came across an interesting article from a well respected peer reviewed scientific journal “Science” which I believe is read by many scientists in the USA. The article is entitled…

“BEYOND THE IVORY TOWER: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change”.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686

In the article a search was completed for submitted work (which was independently reviewed by other scientists and experts in their fields) directly relating to keywords “Climate Change” in the ”abstract” and “keywords” between the years 1993 and 2003. What they found was 928 articles, approximately a quarter of the articles were related to past/ancient climate paleoclimate change which remained neutral as to current climate change. We are then left with approx 700 scientific reviewed articles stating that anthropogenic causes is the biggest factor for our current climate change, none of the 700 scientific articles disagreed with this point. In other words terrestrial humans are the single biggest contributing factor towards climate change.

Quote: “This analysis shows that scientists publishing in the peer-reviewed literature agree with IPCC, the National Academy of Sciences, and the public statements of their professional societies. Politicians, economists, journalists, and others may have the impression of confusion, disagreement, or discord among climate scientists, but that impression is incorrect”.
Salome
Mike
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phenix,

Thanks very much, I'll look into these.

And Karrol, I'm just looking for any info showing potential conflict of interest, etc.
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael

I have done some searching and the following link list some scientist on the US Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works.

There are a few Quotes from scientist and their names are given. Plus many links in this page

Hope this one helps

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072E-802A-23AD-45F0-274616DB87E6

Thanks
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Borthwey
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also on the "The Great Global Warming Swindle" Channel 4 documentary:

http://www.medialens.org/alerts/07/0313pure_propaganda_the.php

"Eight of the scientists in the film - John Christy, Paul Reiter, Richard Lindzen, Paul Driessen, Roy Spencer, Patrick Michaels, Fred Singer and Tim Ball - are linked to American neo-conservative and right-wing think-tanks, many of which have received tens of millions of dollars from Exxon.
Greenpeace provides a fascinating online ’map’ detailing how Exxon funds these climate sceptics. Go to: http://www.exxonsecrets.org/ index.php?mapid=831 "
David
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Phenix
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gerne geschehen, Michael.

Here again, fresh from the press and to the point:-)

http://globalwarming.change.org/blog/view/how_to_fail_at_climate_change_journalism

[...]"about how environmentalists are coping with oil lobby tactics for defeating climate policy reform this year. The article focused in particular on the lobbies' efforts to fend off establishment of a carbon dioxide emissions cap, as well as a market for trading carbon emissions credits -- both included in the House-passed climate and energy bill."[...]


Salome.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks again to all, i have a lot of homework to do.
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Davidmg
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although at this particular moment I do not have the time to thuroughly read this fully packed document. I do feel this might be what you are looking for.

I have the following documents about many scientist debunking global warming by the U.S. Senate Committee on Envirnment and public works.



and also A Skeptics Guide to Debunking Global Warming Alarmism. Hot & Cold Media Spin Cycle: A Challenge To Journalists who Cover Global Warming.  -- by Senator James Inhofe



if this sounds of interest to you please let me know where to send this info. And if you need help search for addidtional info please let me know and I will be glad to help in my spare time.



David M. G.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks David,

If you wish to mail anything:

Michael Horn
P.O.B. 5163
Playa del Rey, CA 90296
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Phenix
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Post Number: 294
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The hard reality of daily life. A call for responsibility.

The Starving Ocean: How Much Damage Has Human Fishing Done To The Ocean?

"We thought we could fish forever, because the sea was a limitless protein mine. But dawning now is a realization that we were wrong about that. But how naive were we? And what price will be paid? Ocean life is dying back in unexpected ways: although there are fewer fish and other sea animals, more of them are starving, while waves of 'sickness' spread as primitive microbes gain the upper hand."[...]

http://www.fisherycrisis.com/


We won't dare say, we didn't know!


Salome.
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Silence
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An earthquake shook Venezuela - and check this out:

"The U.S. Geological Survey said the epicenter was 23 miles north-northeast of Puerto Cabello, one of the OPEC nation's main oil ports. It was below the sea at a depth of 6.2 miles."


http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58B1WU20090913
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Mavi
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Silence, maybe it was manmade using harps as they did in Japan and China...
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Phenix
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greeting the forum and our moderators,

This one hit Yahoo front page awhile ago:

Doctors warn of 'world catastrophe'

A failure to tackle climate change will lead to a "global health catastrophe", leading doctors have warned.

Briefly:
"But taking steps to cut the world's carbon emissions, such as eating less meat and switching to cleaner energy, will have benefits for people's health, an editorial published in both the Lancet and British Medical Journal (BMJ) said.

And in a letter accompanying the editorial, medical chiefs in the UK, Ireland and around the world called on doctors to put pressure on politicians meeting in Copenhagen in December in a bid to secure a new global deal on cutting emissions." [...]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090916/tuk-doctors-warn-of-world-catastrophe-6323e80.html


We have got to do something about all this; we can not sit back and contemplate how our world, this wonderful planet, is literally falling apart.
Despite decades old comprehensive warnings.


Salome.
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Mavi
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Climate changes
Iraq Suffers as the Euphrates River Dwindles

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/world/middleeast/14euphrates.html
A big lake dissappears in Chile, it took few hours
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laxr8gQSbYU&feature=related
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mavi,

Where did you get the info that the earthquakes in China and Japan were caused by HAARP?

Thanks
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Mavi
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi, SMUKHUTI:
Here, you can find some answers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atqkGDqKeZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihygYupVaw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VX0JvpW5q0&feature=related
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Bianca
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Global warming is being experienced on many fronts already, yet how many people out there know its veracity?
Here is a link to a clip of a Dust Storm in Australia. Another storm engulfed Sydney and then blew further north to Queensland was seen on the news. The night before here in Melb. I felt a very mild explosion like noise which woke me up at 2 am.
BTW, there are a few clips on You Tube to other places in the world experiencing the same scary scenarios of dust storms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95tmYmeHf84

If I may suggest something: the much popularized Copenhagen meeting is nearing and I have not heard any mention of the most pressing issue that being of Over Population. A while back i took the liberty and wrote to Ban ki Noon who is the Secretary General of the UN and expressed this urgent issue. Obviously I heard nothing back. I have written to many others prominent people in different departments in various institutions and I am sure that they have at least read my extract that I sent from C. Frehner long article and are contemplating its full dire consequences. My suggestion is this: people here may want to write and express their concerns addressing them to the various people who will be speaking at the congress and maybe our letters will create the ripples that will create waves of change?
One way is to type in a search engine "Copenhagen Climate Congress", then choose the most prominent names and email them.
Can I say " Yes, we can"?
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all

Loss of soil threatens food production, UK government warns -

More than 2m tonnes of topsoil from farms and forests is being eroded by wind and rain each year, jeopardising efforts to increase food production, the UK government said today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/24/topsoil-farming-defra?CMP=AFCYAH


Shocking Photo evidence of the damage to the ice, respectively loss of ice on Earth

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gallery/2009/apr/28/glaciers-melting-climate-change?picture=346586112


Himalayan glaciers disappear as world warms up

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gallery/2009/may/29/himalayas-glaciers-everest-changing-landscapes?picture=348304432
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc
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Phenix
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greeting the moderators and all members,

Dear friends,
I am taking the liberty to call to you here.
It appeared, that a ritual slaughter of dolphins is being planned in November, in the Faroe Islands.

See here: Stop The Bloody Tradition Of The Faroe Islands

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/557550806

Briefly: "This petition has been created to target to the horrible bloody practice, which is still taking place in the heart of the European Union and which belongs to the middle ages but not to the modern society. Every November inhabitants of Faroe Islands* come to the sea to teach their sons to kill. The subject of this millennium tradition, aimed to make men out of boys, are confiding and very human-friendly dolphins - 1500 animal units every year. We feel confident, that such cruelty towards the fauna is absolutely unacceptable in the 21.th century in the face of the massive damages of the civilization."[...]


I thought, this barbaric practice must be stopped.

Your help would be greatly appreciated.


Salome.
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Sanjin
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is brutal.

The petition is signed, but isn't there something more that can be done?
36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him.
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Dae_il
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all

I want to know about influence of groundwater wave.
A man told me a big groundwater cross through my house and my father's tomb
I have lived my house for 39 years.
He suggested I should move to another place and also my father's tomb.

I read a book of effecting wave of groundwater(?).
But really is there the influence of groundwater?

I am difficult to write english.

Help me,please.
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Phenix
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 05:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good day,

Sanjin,
Thanks for stepping in.
I am not quite sure of what one could further do.
We are giving the word forward; we have alerted the Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society, the Humane Society USA, Greenpeace, plus a couple of green and environment-friendly political parties and groups, here in The Netherlands.

Of course, it would help if members here could do the same locally and internationally.

Salome,
Adam.

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