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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1070
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 06:02 pm: | 
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*****
Best Greetings to All, Peace Be With You
Tien, and All,
Consider this following as among "High Probabilities," more than 'speculation'.
HAARP is a Weapon, make no mistake about this. Yes, a weapon which CAN stop missiles, even used for certain attacks by a variance of frequencies. We have co-operated with Russia and certain other Nations to build up the 'network' of this capability.
Now, consider that many of the military satellites are turned out -- away from Earth -- to scan the deep space in our Solar System, looking for incoming 'FastWalkers' in the military nomenclature.
Now, consider the more than 400 'insiders', astronauts, and scientists which have come forward and stood before Congress, the United Nations and others along with Steven Greer to reveal the Threat from the Stars. Some few of these have even been assassinated to silence them.
Then consider that we have developed the TR-3B and the enhanced versions, built in 'secret', which ARE Space-capable and Armed.
Then consider that the Navy Space Command has built Space Battleships in high orbits between Earth and the Moon. And there have been reports of 'skirmishes' in near-space using Energy Weapons, possibly some ETs come to defend Earth.
Put this all together, and it becomes more clear that the threat from Space is well known among the Nations of Earth, and HAARP is included in our defense plans.
Peace - Out
*****
TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 07:21 pm: |
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Hi Tien,
There was a whole bunch of scientist with the opinion that cigarette smoking does not increase the chance of cancer up until 5-6 years ago.
There was a whole regiment of scientist who said that global warming is purely and "only" a natural cause up until the mid ninety's.
No need to worry about this professor. You can only post well researched counter views as comments in youtube.
Tschüß |
Adysor
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 12:31 pm: |
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Hi J_Rod,
I don't want to be rude, but there is not the question where do this barbarians come from because you are asking the question on the assumption that there were some other life forms which incited or commanded the earth population into barbarism.
What I am saying is that it is very likely that it was this population of Earth that was barbarous in its nature and it still is but in different forms.
The purpose is not to be barbarous and shed blood but to attain the goal which is put before the people... in the process, barbarism may appear. I learned that the word barbarism came from the Greeks which means foreign and cruel. So before the Greeks, how can it be spoken of barbarism?
The idea about Sirian Overlords and so on is just going too far into that assumption, which probably tries to shift the blame unto something else other than us(human species).
Anyway the point of this was to try to discover what is or was the nature of mankind. Probably we will never know. But what we can know is the nature of mankind in this moment which was very likely to be the nature of mankind in the past.
Adrian.
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 03:02 pm: |
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Hi Rod,
I was listening to contact 1 converted to audio and came across the reference to some nasty ET's and I can't recall reading about these guys anywhere else in the Meier Material unless it's referring to the Giza Int. and their sorted allies.
Here's the reference from future of mankind website-and this is Semjase speaking----
33. So there are species that have acquired much knowledge and have freed themselves from their environment; they travel through space and also occasionally come to Earth.
34. Many of them are rather unpleasant creatures and live in a certain barbarism that frequently is nearly as bad as the terrestrials'.
35. One must be on one's guard from them because they often attack and destroy everything that gets in their way.
36. Often they have destroyed whole planets or forced their inhabitants into barbaric slavery.
37. This is one of our tasks:
38. To warn the people on Earth of these creatures.
39. Let the people know this because the time is approaching when a conflict with these degenerate human creatures becomes unavoidable.
Who do you think that they are and is there a name for them?
Peace, Matthew Beattie
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 04:29 pm: |
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You know how the victors always write the history. It crosses my mind the Sirian Overlords lied about history and these battles.
What if they did not create us? What if WE ... were the barbarians who crossed space?
"Oh!" said the Sirian, "don't kill us, Earthling, we're your parents! You ... you ... you just FORGOT! Yah, that's the ticket! You just forgot!"
Come on ... get real.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1072
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 05:18 pm: |
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Hi Adrian, Best Greetings to You and to All
No "rudeness" there (apology not necessary), but you are a little short in your knowledge of the History.
You state: "The idea about Sirian Overlords and so on is just going too far into that assumption..." This is NO "ASSUMPTION", my fine-feathered friend, this comes from the KNOWN HISTORY.
And, to say: "...assumption that there were some other life forms..." Is no "Assumption" either, and those "other life forms" are also HUMAN BEINGS.
Absorb the following short History into your consciousness: ...
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28,000,000,000 (28-Billion) years ago = Nokodemjon became a purely spiritual form.
12,000,000,000 (12-Billion) years ago = Nokodemjon came back out of the Arahat Athersata spirit level for the sake of his peoples, who followed no creational laws and commandments at all, to bring his peoples to reason and therefore to rationality.[1] Enoch's original tribes split into two lineages. One lineage, who we refer to as the Old Lyrians, went it's own way to settle throughout the galaxy and eventually settled in the Lyra and Vega star system in another space-time shifted configuration. Another lineage, who we now refer to as the Creator Overlords, also settled throughout the galaxy and eventually arrived in the Sirius star system.
7,000,000,000 (7-Billion) years ago = The Sirius Creator Overlords lost knowledge of their true ancestry or origin. They lose the capability to defend themselves and they start to genetically engineer new warrior races. Warrior races [much later] mutiny and escape with help across the galaxy and some arrive on the planet Kudra in the Nisan star system, others on planets Mars and Malona in the Sol star system and land begin to create new colonys.
5,000,000,000 (5-Billion) years ago = The Earth was so hard and solid, that slowly life developed on it, first only seas of lava and volcanoes and then, in the course of time, also the very first and ur-primitive life in the form of lichenoid plant life.
28,000,000 (28-Million) years ago = The first humans, in their original form, came into being on the oldest planetary systems of our galaxy.
27,000,000 (27-Million) years ago = The first physically recognisable humans emerged quite certainly as the life forms named hominids, which, however, first appeared very much later on the Earth.
26,000,000 (26-Million) years ago = The Lyren galaxy dissolved itself and turned into energy, out of which new stars and planets and a new galaxy came into being. (This was the original Galaxy from which came Nokodemion /Rod)
22,000,000 (22-Million) years ago = The first three peoples who first came to Earth simultaneously. They were the red ones, the brown ones and the white ones. This came about because the Destroyer had done its work of destruction in the Lyran home systems.
~~~ ~~~ ~~~
Hi Matthew,
Those would be among those which attacked and destroyed the original home-Star of the Plejarens. The Plejarens call them "Inhumane" for good reason, but give them no other proper name that I'm aware of. I don't think it was the Bafath, they had intentions to stay here before they were captured and run-off.
The Ring Nebula (also known as M-57) was the historic home of the Plejarens in the Lyra-Vega System.
What do you think are the ODDS for the Destroyer to wreck it's damage in the system of Lyra, then race point-blank across 26-Light-Years of Space (of all POSSIBLE directions) directly towards our Solar System. The Destruction of an Entire Star System did not happen by "chance," and the occurrence of the Destroyer (large enough to drag Venus from Neptune to it's current orbit) did not happen by "chance" either.
It would take much greater power to destroy a Star, than to re-direct a body like the Destroyer. We are grateful to the Plejarens, for they have now reduced the threat by re-directing the Destroyer away from the Destruction of Earth. Now we must contend with the Red Comet.
They have given us "fair-warning," for which our Earth has been making preparations (in great secrecy so far, so as not to panic the populace. See my post 1070, above).
Peace Be With You ... Be With Us All
*****
TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 292
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 05:34 pm: |
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Hi Matt.
Maybe MIB ....
Cheers.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1498
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 04:44 am: |
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Hi Adrian....
Just a supplement....
You have the idea of the concept! Very factual...with True analyse. You
studied the Meier Material properly.
Well done!
Semjase, made it very clear that - Natural Barbarism...IS NATURAL -, and which
every human species will experience, to further grow in their Evolution.
It is as Simple, as that.
Thus: it IS in The Nature...of man, and Natural!
Can not always blame the Ischfisch(s)...[god - King of Falsehood], what they
once put upon man, as some do!
MAN, throughout Evolution will Disagree with each other and even Fight for his
opinion/view, and what not. And thus, this IS just plain old - Natural
Barbarism - at work...doing it's work for Man to gain insight, knowledge and
Wisdom, etc. Mistakes will be made and here from....he will Learn (and
Dis-Learn).
And, again: the GOD pretenders(Ischfischs)...where never influenced, ONLY by
themselves! And some becoming Warmongers and "Killers of (the) first hour", as
they say. Which made them GOD pretenders before very primitive human species.
You know the rest....
Edward. |
Adysor
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 01:30 pm: |
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Hi J_Rod,
You seem to contradict me about the assumptions you are making... Those are not facts but assumptions. Just because you are repeating it from Meier doesn't mean it's a fact. There is no evidence to support that.
"28,000,000,000 (28-Billion) years ago = Nokodemjon became a purely spiritual form.
12,000,000,000 (12-Billion) years ago = Nokodemjon came back out of the Arahat Athersata spirit level for the sake of his peoples, who followed no creational laws and commandments at all, to bring his peoples to reason and therefore to rationality.[1] Enoch's original tribes split into two lineages. One lineage, who we refer to as the Old Lyrians, went it's own way to settle throughout the galaxy and eventually settled in the Lyra and Vega star system in another space-time shifted configuration. Another lineage, who we now refer to as the Creator Overlords, also settled throughout the galaxy and eventually arrived in the Sirius star system.
7,000,000,000 (7-Billion) years ago = The Sirius Creator Overlords lost knowledge of their true ancestry or origin. They lose the capability to defend themselves and they start to genetically engineer new warrior races. Warrior races [much later] mutiny and escape with help across the galaxy and some arrive on the planet Kudra in the Nisan star system, others on planets Mars and Malona in the Sol star system and land begin to create new colonys.
5,000,000,000 (5-Billion) years ago = The Earth was so hard and solid, that slowly life developed on it, first only seas of lava and volcanoes and then, in the course of time, also the very first and ur-primitive life in the form of lichenoid plant life."
I'm sorry but for me those are assumptions and theories.
If Plejaren's mission is to warn us about the Destroyer and Sirian Overlords and "space barbarians" and so on... then those are not facts. they are certainly possibilities and we should take care during our progress but we certainly can't take them for granted.
Adrian.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1077
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:10 pm: |
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Well, Adrian, since you keep insisting on calling Truth to be "assumptions," you endanger no one but yourself when the warnings are given.
Say now -- you're barreling down the road at 110, there's a sign which says "Bridge Down Ahead"
Would that seem to be a valid "assumption?" How will you test such a "theory?" By your logic -- just keep barreling along, with the thought "there's no truth in that."
Go figure, dude.
*****
TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 09:12 pm: |
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Greetings Adrian,
FACT: Meier has given us irrefutable evidences of the meetings between him and Plejarens.
FACT: Meir has given us prophetically accurate information of varied nature which has proven correct.
FACT: The information Meier has given us up until now is not a part of earth human history and accepted knowledge and that I completely agree with you. If that has not been the case, there would not be any need for a 800 year mission.
Now, if someone has given me 10 information out of which 5 are verified truths (=facts), I would assume the rest 5 information also to be truth unless proven otherwise.
How can Meier prove to us that one of the goal of the Plejaren mission "is to warn us about the Destroyer and Sirian Overlords and space barbarians"? Ask these races to attack us and then help defend us? In other words, the information which we do not have the capability to verify will always be possibilities rather than fact. But possibilities, coming of information from a very reliable source we should seriously consider going forward in our future.
Tschüß |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 41
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 05:57 am: |
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Say now that, I was a Sith or Syrian Overlord and had ulterior motives and had ended up being caught up in the Reincarnation cycle just waiting to bust loose. Why should I do anything at all except sit back and watch the Punch and Judy Show!
Now this..... is truly WWF entertainment and action at it's finest hour my dear ~ Adrian !!!
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Rarena
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Post Number: 501
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 07:23 am: |
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The information about the Natural Galactic history presented by Rod was presented in the Billy Meier material.
There are many things we and Earth humans cannot prove... such as, reincarnation, spirit or consciousness... but this is a forum for discussing such things.
If you count Nokodamion as part of the mission; the same spiritual lineage as Billy and the other six prophets... the mission... lasts millenia upon millenia (Billions of years)another fact unprovable by we Earth men and women and our written "history".
Separating the truth from falsness is very important. Much of Earth history is mired in falsity for ulterior political or religious gain. |
Jgarbush
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 09:00 am: |
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This would be great population control. |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1079
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 04:49 pm: |
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Hi Jgarbush,
Do you refer to the "Bridge Down Ahead" post?
Yeah, but that would only get a few thousand, then some would eventually catch-on to the "better mousetrap."
Adrian,
Do you believe in the "theory" of gravity? It's only algebra after all.
The gravitational acceleration towards an object is given by:
g = (m x G/(r^2)) x r*
where:
m is the mass of the object,
r is the distance from center of mass of the object to the location we are considering,
r* is the unit vector from center of the object to the location we are considering,
G is the gravitational constant of the universe.
Well, if the algebra won't work for you, then consider the next time you're at 35,000-ft up in a jet -- suddenly the Engines fail = you know you could be stuck up there for days until they can get one of those infernal engines running. Right?
***!
TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Adysor
Member
Post Number: 171
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 08:29 pm: |
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Hi J_Rod,
What jet? What engines? Right now I am seated on my chair in from of the computer talking to you. How can you apply that formula if you don't know the variables? at least a few of them.
Where are the Overlords? Are you going to shoot the first ETs specie that come to Earth on sight? Just because you think they are the "Sirian Overlords"? And if truly they are and have the same intent as before, do you think they will show it to you??? They might be ancient but I don't think they are stupid, quite the contrary.
If the engines of a jet fail, how can you be stuck in the air? The only thing that happens to me is crash...I thought you believed in the theory of gravity...(This is your example after all)
I am not known in the field of algebra and physics but if you brought the formula of the gravitational acceleration, please relate it to what we were talking about. I guess Nokodemion, Sirian Overlords and Destroyer(maybe we didn't understand each other on the subject)
And Randy, I agree with what you posted.
Adrian.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 258
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 08:40 pm: |
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I don't have any problem with someone coming to the forum and refuting what we all understand , and understand , to be true .
A big YAWN . It makes no difference . It couln't be more boring . When I was a child it mattered too much . Now that I'm older , it doesn't matter enough , even if it should .
At least those people commit their whle lives to this forum ( it seems so at least) , so what ; it's negative attention .
It should be perceived like this from the Wise :
Negative attention: The Greatest Compliment .
otherwise you keep banging your head against your keyboard typing to vegetarians trying to convince them to eat meat .
there I go with the meat metaphor again .
MC |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 08:15 am: |
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Greetings MarkCampbell,
What you mean to say like some people ask questions with obvious answers then after proper explanation is given ask the same question in a different manner? 
Tschüß |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1082
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 03:25 pm: |
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Hi Adrian,
Well, it seems you have begun to "catch-on." The jet getting stuck "up there with no engines" has brought you around to the difference between Illogic and Logic.
You stated that you could only "believe" what you may touch, see, hear, smell, or taste. Then HOW do you "know" that gravity is real? Can you touch gravity? See gravity? Hear gravity? Smell gravity? Taste gravity?
It is the SAME with CREATION, or your Spirit, or your CONSCIOUSNESS. Think it through for each of these with the same logic.
Peace
*****
TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 260
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 11:48 pm: |
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Smukhuti ;
I don't think your question is obvious at all . I'm sure if I read it many more times I would get it . Excuse me that I don't .
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Adysor
Member
Post Number: 173
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 08:43 pm: |
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My friend J_Rod,
You neither would believe that the jet with no engines would crash into the earth unless you have either experienced something similar(free falling) or have seen it with your own eyes. That is what you call logic...It is logical that that jet would behave similarly as when you fell from a tree or something else high when you were little or mature but with amplified effects...
You have at least once in your life fallen from a tree 1 or 2 meters above the ground. What you do is try to replace that with the jet except at higher altitude. That + the aid of the theory of gravity TESTED by humans(with the senses of sight, touch and so on...). I am recreating the experience with different variables with the help of memory.
I urge you to apply that logic with Creation, Consciousness or Spirit etc...
Adrian.
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Darren
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 08:44 pm: |
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Hi Rod,
I'm not disagreeing or anything but I often heard people use the theory of gravity for an analogy to describe things their saying but isn't gravity able to be tested and measured so it can't really be used can it? I remember watching a documentary about NASA when they landed some satelite on a small (100 metres squared) meteor. They calculated all the numbers and predicted that the meteor's mass was just enough to attract/hold the satelite and it did. |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1083
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 11:44 am: |
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Hi Darren,
You're right, perhaps an inappropriate analogy, back to square uno.
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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