Archive through January 26, 2010

Author Message Edward Member Post Number: 1607 Registered: 05-2002 Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 03:52 am:        Hi Smukhuti.... Excellent summery! I had also mentioned some years back to utilize some sort of 'Compression Detonation'....to 'blow' the astroid away, to avert her course/trajectory. Thus, Ptaah, has the same idea as, I did! Not bad... Second option, was to utilize a 'Pulverization Detonation'; to the smallest particles possible, if possible...so that only, 'small bits' would enter the Earth's atmosphere, which will just burn-up itself, when entering. Edward. Smukhuti Member Post Number: 163 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 08:33 pm:        Did somebody heard of a 13 year old German schoolboy, Nico Marquardt, who suggested that NASA's calculations of the Apophis asteroid, discovered on June 19, 2004, were incorrect? Check out: http://www.mahalo.com/nico-marquardt Salome. Suv Earthling Member Post Number: 356 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 04:59 am:        Hot off the presses, from Stewart Swerdlow; Minister of Imaginative Delusion, aka shameless lying for profit, through preying on the fear, incredulity and gullibility of his fellow humans (caveat - imo). http://www.expansions.com/News.cfm "January 17, 2010 Kuiper Belt Info After many months of attempted scanning into the Kuiper Belt, there is finally a bit of new information. I had mentioned previously that we mostly observed insect-like life-forms as well as beings never before seen here. Many also came from other universes and from distant regions of this and other galaxies. Recently I have "seen" Lion-like beings among the group. I am not sure if they have recently arrived or if they have just not been noticed before. These Lion people are very much similar to the Kilroti of the Sirius A star system. I do not know if they are the same or from another location. As I receive information, I will pass it on to you. " Sanjin Member Post Number: 95 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 10:15 am:        Earthling, So I take it that Lion shaped comets and insects will be hitting Earth soon. But seriously, if that guy and his wife were truthful about their fiction, they would not be Swordlowlife's anymore. 36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him. Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 229 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 11:50 am:        By the way, Earthling, you mean 'credulity', not 'incredulity'. Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 230 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 11:53 am:        Smukhuti, When a 13-year-old boy can figure it out, then perhaps their stated 'calculations', as is not unordinarily the case, are lies in order to keep the public from panicking. Salome, - Matthew Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 231 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 12:04 pm:        Earthling, Properly, though, if you have a collection of specific points whereat Stewart Swerdlow has it wrong and you think that you have proof that he is 'lying', as you say, then demonstrate that evidence and compile it into something more logical and presentible. Otherwise, your method is little different from that of those who say that 'Billy Meier is a fraud because he thinks he is Jesus!' calumniated upon the fact that Billy knows, and so do we, that he discovered the genuine and original Gospel in the form of the Talmud Jmmanuel, and that a previous incarnation of his spirit-form was Jmmanuel. They would rather focus on the 'crazy-sounding' information than on the provable facts, like that the UFO-photos have proven genuine, that Billy is totally sincere, that Prof. Deardorff has well demonstrated the Talmud Jmmanuel's genuineness, and that Billy himself has written thousands of pages of unparalleled philosophy. Salome, - Matthew Justsayno Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 10-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 07:02 pm:        Hi Smukhuti, also interesting to note that there are 40,000 satellites circling the earth. I say the 13 year old boy knows more than nasa. Hi Matthew makes you wonder if nasa didn't take up snorting cocaine to ease their own panic. Btw nasa is investigating itself when it comes to finding cocaine in their hangar. How the heck does that happen? You'd think the DEA would be in there like a dirty shirt. Puts a whole new spin on "payload". Edward Member Post Number: 1618 Registered: 05-2002 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 01:40 am:        Hi Smukhuti..... I can understand from where...the young boy is coming from! I mostly, check the data which is configured to a/the mentioned asteroid, and indeed: THERE ARE...differences in some data specs! One can come across this on many/different sites, which display the data. I too, check all data with each other, and thus, One WILL noticed the anomalies. NASA data, and some other data from other known Astroid Watchers, DO...indeed differ greatly, at times. So, I try both data (and others; lot of work...) and see what comes out the best. It has even happened, that a configuration data would be 'reasonable' and would project itself, just as, say... NASA or some others have stated would occur in their trajectory, but then...them saying that a Second Approach should manifest much closer to Earth, which in this case may NOT even be the case! I have had this a couple of times with calculated screen shots I make of the asteroids. SAME DATA....but the Second Approach is Way Off (course) that Fear Factor Second Approach concerning, which they say would mean disastrous for Earth! Which is than, NOT TRUE! So, I am looking for newer updates concerning their Data Sheets...all the time. Thus, it seems...some Second Approach data, can be incorrect. And than, perhaps newer data would help, due to it being more precise. I mentioned the above at the PAR/PlsRReal to someone also perceiving the anomaly. To that individual, it was some mentioned Fear Factor scenario. Consciously done by the NASA or whom ever. But, I would still take heed to what the Plejarans have said, that Earth's Calculations can indeed be 'distorted' due to faulty 'out-put', due to cosmic properties, which generate false numbers/out-put. And we have to keep in mind, that a Second Approach...could project an anomaly trajectory due to 'what ever' circumstances it may have encountered(the asteroid) in her course of trajectory(?). [Even Ptaah/Quetzal, mentioned this, concerning other comets/asteroids which, we should take heed to.] So, it is quite 'common' that a course/trajectory CAN change. Which is quite Logical.... Edward. Earthling Member Post Number: 357 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 04:57 am:        Matthew ... I know you like Stewart and though its hard to believe because I pick on him, I do find him intelligent and interesting; but he goes too far, for his own good and those under his Svengali-like influence. I'm not interested in compiling anything to prove my opinion of him as a self-deceiver(deluded) and a deceiver of others(misleader). Your loyalty towards him is admirable but inconsistent, as you lambaste others but overlook his shortcomings. Smukhuti Member Post Number: 164 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:57 am:        Seriously, if only the scientific community for once forget about NASA and take up Nico Marquardt's calculation for verification. That will be more palatable to the public and policymakers than Billy's (the-guy-who-thinks-himself-to-be-Jesus ) warning decades ago. No country is ready to commit taxpayers money into mega-projects which they cannot explain their voters. At least, Russian astronomers/RKA should validate his calculations and convince other nations as she faces the greatest danger from this looming catastrophe. I doubt any 1 nation can embark on this project alone. If RKA is not wanting to antagonise NASA, they can do this quietly behind the scene. Salome. Suv Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 235 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 02:37 pm:        Earthling, It may seem that I am easy on Stewart, but I was actually banned from his forum a few years ago for proposing things that contradicted some of his memories and positions. If you want me to list his shortcomings as I see them, with no calumny or ill-will intended, then well, he seems to have little self-control in the face of women, he is emotionally unstable and needy, he uses anti-logical but common vocabulary like 'God' and 'Christ', he believes that the colour violet is protective, he is timid to accept the need for any kind of harsh measures against population-growth and bad parents... I could go on, but you get the point. I do not agree with everything Stewart says, and though I will defend him and the fact that most of what he says is provably true, I will not pretend that he has it correct about everything, that he is very wise, that he has made good decisions over the years, etc, etc. But the other concern still stands: much of what he says is provably true, and that is quite concerning indeed. Salome, - Matthew Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 236 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 02:42 pm:        Justsayno, If you knew anything about the history of NASA and the involvement of might-greedy occultists therein, and the kind of customers that NASA panders (quite literally) to in their 'spare time', or the fact that NASA is one of the biggest institutions-for-lying that there is, or that they spend as much of their budget on mind-control, disinformation and hoaxes as on space-projects... Richard Hoagland has produced a book on the subject of NASA. Billy has confirmed that NASA faked Apollo 11. Need I say more? Salome, - Matthew Justsayno Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 10-2009 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 09:07 am:        Hi Matthew, I agree with you on that. They also like to "touch up" their photographs. Recently on the LCross news conference they showed a film of the capsule and you can see lights moving straight and at 90 degree angles, but they just passed it off as "stars". Who knew there were so many stars between the earth and the moon? Now I've noticed they've deleted the "stars" that move at a 90 degree angle from the film. And I can't figure out why they're not posting my comments on their channel about the cocaine. I guess they don't have a sense of humour. Mahigitam Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 09:08 pm:        "Asteroid Apophis and the Michael Horn Claims of Billy Meier" http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/asteroid-apophis-and-the-michael-horn-claims-of-billy-meier/ [1] "...Meier could have picked “red” because historically it’s a color of destruction...could have picked red because it’s a “danger” color and most scales use red for bad things" [2] "An asteroid is a rocky body in space. A meteor is when it’s in the atmosphere. A meteorite is when it hits the ground. Saying that something is an LL chondrite has nothing to do with where it is – on Earth, in our atmosphere, or in space – but has to do with its mineralogy and iron content." Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. Mahigitam Member Post Number: 73 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 05:52 am:        Asteroid Apophis Deconstruction http://www.iigwest.org/investigations/meier/asteroid_apophis_deconstruction.html Do these guys ever wakeup? why didnt quetzal,ptaah not mentioned the year of close passing of red meteor before 2004,official discovery? there must be some good reason behind that.. Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 816 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 12:41 am:        Dear Mahigitam, You ask,"Do these guys ever wakeup?" It is very hard to make someone understand something if their wages depend on them not understanding it. "why didnt quetzal,ptaah not mentioned the year of close passing of red meteor before 2004,official discovery? there must be some good reason behind that.." Jim Deardorff explains that at www.tjresearch.info/denial.htm Cheers! Dyson Edward Member Post Number: 1629 Registered: 05-2002 Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 05:01 am:        Hi All.... I thought, last night to produce some additional screen shots, of Apophis. From the top of our system, and her trajectory from an angle and from the side which we can notice how 'nearby' her physical presence is, to Earth(; WITHIN the Moon's trajectory...)! All specifications from NASA(; other Astroid Watchers data, do tend to show anomalies). So, we will have to do with this given data. Have not checked for any updates, which at times are available. "May MAN...guard himself...from the coming event...!!" Edward. Smukhuti Member Post Number: 169 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 05:17 am:        Mahigitam, in any case - even if the Plejaren had named it to be "Mary Poppins", NASA and other space agencies being "in the know" about the Meier case would have named it "The Sound of Music" for example. If you were a Plejaren, the most promising way of conveying the message would be to convey the real nature of the the danger and reach minds that are convinced about the truth of the case and also have the power and influence to begin a search for such a wandering object in the space. Would you not? IIGWest went as far back as 2002 to dig a George Madeyski question regarding Red Meteor and assumed that Michael Horn answered on behalf of Billy. If they have dug so far back, they should have already known that Christian is also involved in the process. Clearly, they are a desperate lot. Salome. Suv Michael_horn Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 01:26 pm:        I had just posted a response on a skeptical website, here's an excerpt that may be pertintent: Why aren't the skeptics skeptical about...academia and science? After all, the definitive word, the last discoveries, haven't been spoken and/or made by science, nor taught by academia. And it's a safe bet that we could go over all of the various peer reviewed, published scientific papers, and "final discoveries" and find that more than a few absolutes were later questioned, updated, augmented...maybe even discarded and replaced. That's life and science too. That certainly isn't to say that academia is, by definition, something not to be trusted. It's just that new and great discoveries aren't necessarily, exclusively made by people entrenched in academia, as history demonstrates. And I think you're correct in what you're saying about the difficulty in making well founded paradigm shifts. This can be said for individuals and organizations, governments, sciences, etc. Human knowledge is a rather puny matter. We are still at the stage that we hurl combustion engine powered tin cans around in a limited area of our solar system and call it space travel. And when Meier comes along - I don't say "someone like Meier" because he's quite singular - out come the know-it-alls masquerading as scientists to thrill us with their foolish theories that simply are demolished by the facts, about which their ignorance is monumental. When Meier - in 1978 - specifically foretells not only the discovery of Toutatis but that it will be NAMED Toutatis, and when this happens in 1989...nary a words from these geniuses. When scientists ask for a message in a universal language and we get the Red Meteor correlated to the Torino scale, numbers and colors...nope. That's not good enough. All those movies you see about scientists working so hard to find and decipher cosmic clues, to detect "intelligence" attempting to contact them, well the poor bozos can't seem to detect it when it's spelled out in a language that's so simple that...even a scientist should be able to understand it. Arrogance, rigidity, self-importance...funding. Whatever, to hell with the human species, we know better and unless and until WE are the ones that them thar "aliens" talk to...it didn't happen. Thank goodness that an Austrian scientist hasn't lost his curiosity and actually appears intelligent enough to see the obvious. And to his credit David Froning made the remark about Meier being advised by some "very knowledgeable scientists". You can be sure he wasn't talking about the pseudo-scientists in the cult of skeptology. Jokoveltman New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2009 Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 12:30 am:        Michael, Thank you for sharing, not only here, but on skeptic forums as well. I am not - yet - myself able to speak about things like this or to so-called skeptics (or any other religious followers) in such an calm and reasoning way, so doubly thank you. I have a a question, though ... do you (or anyone else here) have any ideas about how to go about getting in touch with NASA and/or the US government about the Red Meteor? The email addresses are easy to find, but what I mean is, I find myself somewhat discouraged by NASA's persistent public belligerence regarding the Russian mission and the danger posed by Apophis. I want to do something, but feel almost as if anything I say may as well be to an empty room. Of course, this has never stopped Billy, but any ideas for how I might word my message so that maybe it might find a crack in the edifice? } Earthling Member Post Number: 364 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 08:06 am:        Jokoveltman - get in touch with http://twitter.com/AsteroidMisses Michael_horn Member Post Number: 143 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 08:30 am:        Also, feel free to use these: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/01/prweb3512384.htm http://theyfly.com/Atmospheric_Collapse.htm

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