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Mike
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 04:05 am: | 
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Scary stuff indeed Hector. I would agree, looks like the kids are still playing with the matches and are oblivious / don’t care about the dangers, implications and effects of utilizing atomic processes both known and unknown as the assault on nature by terrestrial humans continues unabated. Lets not forget about biological / chemical / electromagnetic / particle and positronic weapons whether established or currently being researched and what the effects both known and unknown will have upon our beleaguered biosphere!
However I digress slightly, I came across an interesting article from a well respected peer reviewed scientific journal “Science” which I believe is read by many scientists in the USA. The article is entitled…
“BEYOND THE IVORY TOWER: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change”.
In the article a search was completed for submitted work (which was independently reviewed by other scientists and experts in their fields) directly relating to keywords “Climate Change” in the ”abstract” and “keywords” between the years 1993 and 2003. What they found was 928 articles, approximately a quarter of the articles were related to past/ancient climate paleoclimate change which remained neutral as to current climate change. We are then left with approx 700 scientific reviewed articles stating that anthropogenic causes is the biggest factor for our current climate change, none of the 700 scientific articles disagreed with this point. In other words terrestrial humans are the single biggest contributing factor towards climate change; this fact is not disputed in any of those articles, this point must be reinforced.
Quote: “This analysis shows that scientists publishing in the peer-reviewed literature agree with IPCC, the National Academy of Sciences, and the public statements of their professional societies. Politicians, economists, journalists, and others may have the impression of confusion, disagreement, or discord among climate scientists, but that impression is incorrect”.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686
Billy and the P’s have stated these facts already on many occasions over many years, Billy and the P’s warned governments and those in elected positions and so called “responsible ones” back in 5th of July, 1951 and on the 25th of August, 1958 about the coming events we now unfortunately have to face up to because none one really listened.
Quote: “When the entire climate disaster and the coming events produced from the climate change are examined and analysed, then the earthly future looks gloomy. However, something which even now is accepted as the truth by only a few responsible ones is, that the human beings of Earth shoulder the blame to a great extent – actually up to around 75% – for the coming troubles and chaos as well as all disasters of every kind”.
http://us.figu.org/portal/Documents/tabid/114/Default.aspx
Salome
Mike |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 416
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 02:48 pm: |
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Earth Hour
March 28, 2009 at 8:30 pm (New Zealand) tens of millions of people in hundreds of cities around the world will come together once again to make a bold statement about their concern about climate change by doing something quite simple - turning off their lights for one hour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd1BsNvEXqo&NR=1
Longer version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkq7Zady4IQ
To view the Earth Hour Global Schedule:
http://www.earthhour.org/files/EH09_Global_timing_schedule_100309_GMT.pdf |
Creational
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Post Number: 234
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:24 pm: |
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Dear Phi_spiral,
Great information, as usual. Thanks.
Salome,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Sparky
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 04:23 pm: |
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Much of our environment is ruined because of the love of money, have the P's abolished money? What is their system called and how does it work?
Hi Sparky,
You are way off topic, there is a topic dedicated to the Plejaren and this question has been many times. You might want to use the search function.
Peace.. Badr - Moderator
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Phenix
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Post Number: 281
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 04:12 am: |
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Greeting the moderators and members,
Some rigorous, swift, concrete and rational steps would hopefully follow in the USA and also worldwide:
White House Releases Disturbing Global Warming Report.
"The White House released a major scientific report today that should finally end any last lingering doubt about the extent of global warming.
[The]Release of the report, a decade in the making, had been slowed by years of foot-dragging by the Bush administration.
Its message? Global warming is manmade. It’s irrefutable. And it’s occurring a lot faster than we thought, not only in remote polar regions, but throughout the fifty states." [...]
http://www.care2.com/causes/global-warming/blog/government-releases-disturbing-global-warming-report/
Salome. |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 111
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 11:14 am: |
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Hi Phenix and all,
Good link there. No mention over overpopulation though.
Here is another link to Britain and the EU about Climate Change
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090618/tsc-uk-britain-climate-011ccfa.html
Still no mention of overpopulation.
Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 282
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 03:58 am: |
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Greetings!
Thank you too, Stephen_moore.
There are indeed no direct references to overpopulation and many comments on this report, when they include overpopulation, show that overpopulation still remains a taboo in some circles. Alas.
The attitude here is largely that of a passive denial - alike that of that Chaiman on Youtube, who stubbornly remained in his chair, ostensibly sure of himself and of the lucky outcome, 'digesting information', while the chair was openly cracking under him.
Fortunately, the awareness is reaching higher spheres of our societies and, without naming it, some encouraging steps are being taken( like the promotion of contraception, larger access to abortion clinics, family planning...in some instances )which, although certainly not enough, could in the long run help stabilize world population and finally pave the way for the tackling of overpopulation as such.
Salome. |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 113
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 04:56 am: |
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Hi Phenix
Trying not to get of topic here.
You mentioned contraception. A few months ago there was a TV program of a woman in england going around to various schools educating children on safe sex and the importance of not having unprotected sex for reasons of disease and unwanted child birth etc.
So yes there are steps going on in society which could in the long run.
Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 283
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 09:57 pm: |
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Good day to the moderators and all members,
Stephen_moore,
Your efforts to keep us on topic shall be completed by the following article, which could be seen as an appendix to the latest report of the US officials on global warming.
Also here, the conclusion calls for a profound rethinking of our attitude and urgent collective action to turn the tide - in line with the warnings of Eduard in different prophecies and predictions:
RISING OCEAN TEMPERATURES NEAR WORST-CASE PREDICTIONS
Adam Morton
June 19, 2009
"The ocean is warming about 50 per cent faster than reported two years ago, according to an update of the latest climate science.
A report compiling research presented at a science congress in Copenhagen in March says recent observations are near the worst-case predictions of the 2007 report by the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
In the case of sea-level rise, it is happening at an even greater rate than projected - largely due to rising ocean temperatures causing thermal expansion of seawater.
Released last night at the European Policy Centre in Brussels, the report says ocean temperatures are a better indicator of global warming than air temperature as the ocean stores more heat and responds more slowly to change.
Report co-author Will Steffen, executive director of the Australian National University's Climate Change Institute, said the top 700 metres of the ocean had warmed by about 0.1 degrees over the past half-century."[...]
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/rising-ocean-temperatures-near-worstcase-predictions-20090619-cmcs.html
May reason and wisdom prevail.
Salome,
Adam. |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 115
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 06:49 am: |
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Hi Phenix and All
I was not aware that the Oceans was warming up. I knew that Sea/Ocean levels was rising and the polar ice caps are melting at a concerning rate.
I found the following article today about the replacement of CFC's. The replacement is HFC (which many of you possibly know already). There is some skeptical scientists in this article who say HFC is not safe and still a contributor to Ozone depletion.
Excerpt ....
A ton of HFC23 used in refrigeration has the same global warming potential as 14,800 . tons of CO2 A ton of HFC-134a, widely used in vehicle air-conditioning units, is equivalent to 1,430 tons of CO2. The problem has been increased by the rising demand for refrigeration and air-conditioning because of economic expansion and population growth in Asia.
Possibly HFC is more harm full then previously thought and possibly more harm full then CO2.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6544745.ece
Thank you friends
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 285
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 11:30 pm: |
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Friends,
Here is a sad, but logical and largely expected consequence of our deeds:
Swiss glaciers melting faster than ever before: study
"Mon Jun 22, 2009
ZURICH (Reuters) - Switzerland's glaciers shrank by 12 percent over the past decade, melting at their fastest rate due to rising temperatures and lighter snowfalls, a study by the Swiss university ETH showed Monday.
"The last decade was the worst decade that we have had in the last 150 years. We lost a lot of water," said Daniel Farinotti, research assistant at the ETH.
"The trend is definitely that glaciers are melting faster now. Since the end of the 1980s, they have lost more and more mass more quickly," he said.
It was still too early to tell how 2009 will develop for glaciers, which are a key source of water for hydro-electric plants as well as an important tourist attraction, Farinotti said. Up to 6,000 tourists visit the Jungfraujoch glacier every day." [...]
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE55L1UP20090622
It is the same in Iceland.
Salome. |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 123
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 09:08 am: |
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Hi All
As th my previous post on HFC's destroying Earths Ozone.
The following is a link to some questions and answers about CFC'c, HFC's and other related information on the man made Ozone destruction.
http://stason.org/TULARC/science-engineering/ozone-depletion-intro/index.html
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Edmundo
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 01:27 pm: |
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Scientists argue that large dams affect the weather.
http://www.livescience.com/environment/091203-dam-weather.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427394.200-dams-linked-to-more-extreme-weather.html |
Edward
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Post Number: 1601
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 04:05 am: |
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Hi Edmundo....
Yes, DOES...make sense.
Flow of water is not flowing Natural anymore, the plants and trees that were
supposed to grow where they were to grow...are all UNDER water, and go so on.
Not to forget, the animal life forms!
The whole Natural Process(ing) of NATURE... is being disrupted! And thus: this
will also reflect onto our weather!
Edward. |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 817
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 12:10 pm: |
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Economic growth 'cannot continue'
Continuing global economic growth "is not possible" if nations are to tackle climate change, a report by an environmental think-tank has warned.
The New Economics Foundation (Nef) said "unprecedented and probably impossible" carbon reductions would be needed to hold temperature rises below 2C (3.6F).
Scientists say exceeding this limit could lead to dangerous global warming.
MORE: http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8478770.stm?ad=1
(For those with eyes to see - look at NEF's logo.)
http://www.neweconomics.org/publications/growth-isnt-possible |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 820
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 07:18 pm: |
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Dear friends,
Regarding the probability of the collapse of our planet’s atmosphere due to it being overburdened by carbon dioxide, as described by Ptaah in contact 481, SB51:
James Lovelock, who was largely responsible for coming up with the “Gaia Hypothesis” – which demonstrates scientifically that the Earth is a living meta-organism which regulates itself – advances the idea that our planet can stably exist in more than one or two steady phases of homeostasis. That’s just a scientific term for the sort of thing that a thermostat does. It regulates its own state of being, except, of course, a living planet’s feedback loops are infinitely more complex. Anyway, Lovelock points out that we have already observed two steady-state phases, namely the Ice Ages and the Interglacial Periods, one of which we are enjoying now. But other steady states are theoretically possible, including ones very hostile to complex life in general and human life in particular.
Like WAY too hot, for instance. (There is actually FAR MORE biota during Ice Ages!)
Ptaah uses the expression “Sauerstoffkollapses resp. Atmosphärenkollapses” (oxygen collapse, respectively, atmosphere collapse).
The operative word is COLLAPSE.
Climatologists have recently discovered, to their horror, that – consistent with the findings of the branch of mathematical called Catastrophe Theory – these phase-shifts happen really fast. And when I say “fast”, I mean, like from one season to the next. Like the Ice Age, and all the glaciations and ice caps which accompany it, literally are the result of a hard winter which never really lets up. You go out to shovel out your driveway, and eventually you have to give up because you are ultimately going to have your house buried under a Greenland-style ice cap. Frozen mammoths have reportedly been excavated with fodder still in their mouths. Food for thought.
So Ptaah’s 8% CO2 figure should not be misunderstood in comparison to the current .035% or the historic .025%. I view it as his wise/loving warning of where our insane overpopulation could lead. As I’ve said before, if we are going to breed like flies, we have to expect to die like flies.
I haven’t had time – since I’m pretty bust translating just now – to do my homework on how this all ties into what is in contact 481, but I do think that Gaia will burn us humans off like we burn off the germs which cause a fever if she is overburdened by our filth.
Creation is all about the immutable law of CAUSE and EFFECT.
Salome,
Dyson |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 824
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 07:50 pm: |
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Dear friends,
Some of you may be wondering why Billy and Ptaah are so very critical of the Copenhagen Climate Conference, especially in light of some of the double-figure levels of CO2 cutbacks discussed (and demanded by the many happy street protesters) which are vastly greater that the 2 to 4% levels talked about by our criminal politicians just a few years ago.
Even before then, in the previous century, I seem to recall reading in Scientific American, that anthropogenic CO2 emissions would have to be reduced by something like 80% in order to achieve anything significant at all. (I know it was then, because I canceled my long-term subscription in disgust right after the WTC Massacre which led me to the enlightening Disclosure Project, then to Billy.) So the scientists KNEW long ago that our criminal elected representatives – who don’t want to alienate their REAL masters – were fiddling while Rome burnt. And obviously so did Billy and the Plejaren.
I had a bit of a search for the topic of overpopulation when examining the outpourings of the Copenhagen climate mavens, and found nothing at all. “Stupid” is quite a charitable assessment of these people. “Planetocidal” seems more appropriate once you dig down deep enough (if you’ve got the stomach for it - and few do) to discover the “Dark Order’s” (the Bafath's finger-puppets) primary motivation.
Salome,
Dyson
Here’s a short clipping from 2007, from a pop-scientist, which was very bold indeed:
Sydney Morning Herald
Clean coal a furphy, says Dr Karl
Date: November 2 2007
Paul Bibby
THE CELEBRITY scientist and Climate Change Coalition candidate for the Senate, Karl Kruszelnicki, has described clean coal as a "complete furphy", likening it to Nazi propaganda.
The colourful campaign of the physicist-turned-politician took a serious turn when he slammed Labor and the Coalition for propagating the "myth of carbon capture" and wasting taxpayers' money.
"Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist, said if you're going to tell a lie, tell a big one, and this is a beauty," Dr Kruszelnicki said. "It is a furphy, a pork pie [note, "lie"] to cover up the fact that there is no such thing as clean coal," he said at Customs House in Sydney.
Dr Kruszelnicki, who is standing on the Climate Change Coalition NSW ticket behind the organic farmer and author Patrice Newell, used a scale model of Sydney and a $10 tent to demonstrate the impossibility of storing the carbon dioxide produced by coal-fired power stations.
Sydney alone would produce a cubic kilometre of compressed carbon dioxide every day as a result of the process, he said.
"You can't build a box big enough to store that every day - there is nowhere big enough underground to put it and the ocean is not an option.
"One cubic kilometre of CO2 to get rid of every day? They make reassuring noises that they're spending millions looking for underground caverns, but that is a complete waste of taxpayers' money."
Dr Kruszelnicki was joined by fellow Climate Change Coalition candidates who are seeking positions in the Senate and House of Representative seats across the country, including the marginal Sydney electorates of Wentworth and Bennelong.
The group is calling for a 40 per cent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, based on 1990 levels, and a 70 per cent reduction by 2050.
Ms Newell said that thermal, wind and solar energy could provide 100 per cent of Australia's electricity needs."I know that for a fact that coal workers in the Hunter Valley would be quite happy to have a job in the renewable industry," Ms Newell said.
"They want a job in a clean industry, but clean coal ain't gonna happen." |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 212
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 05:28 am: |
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Hi all
Thanks Dyson
From my own thinking,
All the talk about reducing CO2 emissions is a farce by our so called "leaders" and know it all scientists. If it was possible to cut CO2 emissions globally, for example by 50%, this in the long term will not solve any problems.
Within the remaining 50% emission we will be throwing into the atmosphere a percentage (30%) would still be damaging for the planet. Also with a irresponsible climbing overpopulation the 50% emissions cut will increase. For example over 10 years of increasing population the 50% would increase in the amount of cubic tons of CO2.
Example and figures are not real figures
first year
10,000 cubic tons of CO2 - 50% reduction = 5000 cubic tons of co2
10 years later with a population increase
15,000 cubic tons of CO2 - 50% reduction = 7,500 cubic tons of C02
20 years later with a population increase.
20,000 cubic tons of CO2 - 50% reduction = 10,000 cubic tons of CO2
Also Carbon Markets has nothing to do with protecting the planet or reducing the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere. Carbon Markets are only another way for big business to make money off of the ills and problems of our planet. Making money from the suffering.
So, I think, until our glorious leaders, business owners, scientist actively and openly start to address the issue of over population and clean energy and start to make a change and implement measures to reduce the population, nothing will be solved.
As Billy and the Plejaren have already told us time and time again, overpopulation is the root cause of climate change, even without CO2 we would still experience the relative problems of climate change.
...... Lecture over 
Salome friends
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 213
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:04 am: |
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To add to try and put across my thinking more clearly,
With a 50% or even a 80% reduction in total global emissions what is left will increasingly get larger and larger as the population grows.
Example
If the first year 20% of emissions = 5000 Cubic tons of CO2
The next year that 20% (5000 Cubic tons) would of increased to 6000 Cubic tons.
and so on.
So every year the percentage would still be 20% but within that 20% the amount of CO2 would increase. Unless the 20% is changed every year to a lower percentage, 19% then 18% and so on to keep a 5000 Cubic ton limit.
But if we lowered the percentage every year, i think, there would be a point where the percentage would get so low that there would be millions of persons who would not have electricity, heating and so on because the amount of CO2 being allowed to be produce would mean that a rising population would get so big that the percentage would not be enough to support all humans.
If you catch my drift. 
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 06:26 pm: |
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Hi all. This is very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOzlp8Q5yqY&feature=related
And John Searl seem to be behind this demonstration of the possibilities:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdCSbLdKVJw&feature=player_embedded
"The NST over unity Motor-Generator use DC input 128.9 Volts & 97.5 Amperes (Input power=12,530 Watt) can give DC output 530 Volts and 33.49 Amperes (Output power=17,749 Watt) with load 18 x 500w lights. (Loads=9,000watts)."
That is 5KW excess output compared to the input. Basically this think runs itself.
I am happy to network with engineer minds out there (in Australia, anyone?) to replicate Muller's (R.I.P.) and John Searl's designs.
Remaining Neutral-Positive means to me; well guys, somebody has to do something. I am up for it. I have gathered some materials and I am ready now to start putting them together.
Anyone? I'd love to work with like minded people from this forum, it would be delightful. Engineering background not required. 
--
Salome
Carlos
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 836
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 02:02 pm: |
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Dear Carlos,
If I was in Sydney (I think you are there?) I'd be on the next bus, but Tasmania is a very distant land.
I URGE you to get a working model together a.s.a.p. (in a sealed jar!) as Proof Of Concept, BUT do your homework. Over-Unity people put themselves in some danger even in 2010. AND there are SO many CHEAP No-Moving-Parts free-energy devices accumulating in the wings that the Searl Engine will get let behind when the embargo is finally broken.
But YOU CAN be pivotal in breaking it, if you are brave! What an honour and privilege!
Best of luck!
Dyson |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 34
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 03:19 pm: |
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Dear Dyson.
Thanks for the reply. Several "key" words or ideas I would like you to elaborate on
"embargo"
"sealed jar" (is that an expression meaning concealment?)
"no-moving-parts" you mean, ala Tesla with his Helium based electric power chemical-reaction generator? - or -
if you mean something else, please enlighten me, I am happy to try it, if it's cheap
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Salome
Carlos
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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 07:32 pm: |
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Techieatwork - in case you haven't seen - fellow at this channel - seems to be doing some interesting experiments - seems to know what he is at - at least - might be worth a look over for you.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Beamshipcaptain |
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