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    Jokoveltman New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2009 |
Thanks Earthling. I will check it out, though not much of a fan of Twitter. And to all, sorry I forgot to sign my name in my previous post. -Tim | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1155 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hi Tim, I find the best way to get to NASA is by way of their bosses = The US Senators. These are all supposed to be the public servants of the citizens (us). I have written to ten of them, with no response, but if more and more of us write them, they cannot ignore all of us. This is what I've sent to them (the Senators), and to POGO -- the NASA oversight org. It might be a good idea for more to write / send to this POGO Org also. The more they hear from us, the better. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ From Rod M(...addr deleted...) at www.thecircleforhumanity.net To public-inquiries@hq.nasa.gov To info@pogo.org As you, the POGO organization is committed to the Oversight of NASA, I appeal to you to make this known to the to the administration and directors of NASA. ... Ladies and Gentlemen of Nasa, Time is running short to take action for diversion of Asteroid 99942-Apophis away from possible impact with Earth. Two reports are included here for your urgent consideration. As there IS the possibility of an impact from this 350-Meter (~1,150-foot) diameter Asteroid in 2029 or 2036, we are looking at a possible "Extinction Event." The most LOGICAL course of action, is to detonate a Fusion Device near to the Asteroid to accelerate its' orbit AWAY from any possibility of impact. This Diversion must be accomplished within the next several (two or three) years to be effective. Also, more than one 'shot' may be needed. PLEASE, for the sake of all Humanity on Earth, give this your highest priority. Respectfully, Rod Morrill ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ From JPL analysis: Reference solution (S142) orbit uncertainties in 2036 (ABOVE) The currently remaining possible positions of Apophis in 2036 (3-sigma region in blue) under the Standard Dynamical Model. The 3-sigma uncertainty in heliocentric longitude, with two more radar experiments and additional optical measurements, is now ~72 degrees. Nominal (most likely) Apophis encounter distance is 0.32 AU. However, the Earth still encounters the uncertainty region at -2.4 standard deviations, producing a small possibility of impact. Figure by J. Giorgini (JPL). Impact probability The study did NOT compute new impact probabilities. This is because important physical parameters (such as mass and spin pole) that affect its trajectory have not yet been measured and hence there are no associated probability distributions. UPDATE NOTES 2009-Apr-29: This animation illustrates how the unmeasured physical parameters of Apophis bias the entire statistical uncertainty region. If Apophis is a RETROGRADE rotator on the small, less-massive end of what is possible, the measurement uncertainty region will get pushed back such that the center of the distribution encounters the Earth's orbit. This would result in an impact probability much higher than computed with the Standard Dynamical Model. CREDITS In addition to Giorgini, co-authors of the report include Dr. Lance A. M. Benner and Dr. Steven J. Ostro of JPL; Dr. Michael C. Nolan, Arecibo Observatory, Puerto Rico, and Michael W. Busch of the California Institute of Technology. Source: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Synopsis The danger of the Red Meteor, now known as Asteroid 99942-Apophis. This is part 2 of the contact. This part is an unofficial but authorised translation. Contact Report 475 Part 2 Translation (Excerpt from page 3486 of the original notes) Billy Regarding the Red Meteor that endangers Earth on the 13th of April, 2029 and of which we have already spoken on the 16th of September, I have been asked about certain things and, therefore, would like to know how big that bloke is. To my knowledge the terrestrial astronomers have already detected it for quite some time and are calling it Aprophis or something. It shall either hit Earth in the year 2029, or only whizzing by very closely. Should it be the latter case, it (the meteor) would reappear in the year 2036 and its close approach to Earth could really lead to a catastrophe if the scientists undertake nothing against it. Ptaah Its size is about 350 metres. What you are saying regarding the great danger that the Red Meteor represents to Earth: the scientists know about it. And if there will be no special influence by the outer SOL “trabants” (note by the translator: objects circling around and at great distance from our sun), a catastrophe really threatens the Earth. In order to avoid it the terrestrial scientists are also urged to undertake every conceivable possibility to ultimately push the meteor from its orbit. Billy To my knowledge various models exist for this purpose, but the scientists cannot come to a mutual agreement on this. You are saying that the fellow shall be pushed from its orbit, and I gather from it that blowing it up is out of question. Therefore, only a reaction principle could be applied, like e.g. an extremely strong nuclear reaction unit, sun sail principles, or atomic explosions near the meteor. Ptaah Whereby atomic explosions near the meteor should be considered, because they are very efficient and produce a strong drift(ing) effect. However, the explosions may not occur too close to the meteor in order to avoid breaking it up, from which an even greater danger would result. Such a project must be executed early and not at that time when the real danger is starting to threaten, because otherwise it would be too late for a success. Therefore working towards it must be started today. Billy And what about big reaction units and sun sail principles? Ptaah Those are also possibilities, but they are much more difficult to carry out, and the necessary effectiveness is questionable; besides, with regard to their efficiency they are not to be recommended because meteors are unstable with regard to a regular self-position which makes the application of any effective reaction units and sun sails etc. nearly impossible. Billy Those things have to be profoundly thought about by the scientists. Ptaah That’s really so, but time presses. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Source FIGU.org us.FIGU.org http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_475 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ End letter You may want to print this out for the embedded email addresses. P.S. Edward -- good find for the Orbital maps. Peace TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 101 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Tim, unless you have a couple billion to throw at Nasa, they won't look twice at your emails. The only way is to shame them into it. They'll soon get tired of hearing how Russia is a world leader on this, and they'll want in on the action (or their shareholders will anyway, lol) | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 174 Registered: 06-2009 |
I agree with the idea if all space faring nations unite for a common cause, NASA will soon find itself "outclassed" and "out of league" eventually loosing their world leader in space exploration status. Salome. Suv | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 829 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Suv, (et al) One of my goals here is to try to help people to come up to speed about how fake NASA is. It's not just the Apollo 11 hoax. NASA is the Hollywood PR side of the space programme. Read the Disclosure Project testimonies. You have a need to know. Your life could depend on it. The REAL space programme is privatised and corporatised, and is also explicitly revealed to us by Ptaah. It's important - indeed VITAL - to know this. The corrupt mainstream media will NOT tell us the truth about NASA any more than it will tell us the truth about BEAM. Who’s doing the abductions and cattle mutilations? Not ET. "Selbst über nachgebaute Strahlschiffe verfügen sie, wobei sogar in gewissem Rahmen Antigravitation Anwendung findet." They even have back-engineered beamships at their disposal, whereby, in certain contexts, even antigravity finds application. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meiersb34.htm Please see my January 24th posting @ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/2784.html?1264386476 The UPSIDE is that whatever pulverised the WTC from a distance could also be pointed at Apophis. We (the people) can also fix global warming, the food crisis, the energy crisis, etc. etc. etc. etc. practically overnight. Truth empowers. Salome, Dyson | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1919 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Dyson, While this isn't the section to discuss this, what do you mean by "whatever pulverised the WTC from a distance"? Scott | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 08-2008 |
hi all. Please check this one out: http://www.popsci.com.au/technology/article/2010-01/rumor-obama-budget-slash-funds-constellation-future-moon-missions IF this is true, it's good to note that: "The White House also wants NASA to focus more attention on climate change research and monitoring and developing programs enabling future exploration of asteroids and the inner solar system." Well, hopefully instead of burning their decree currency on useless space programs, they decide to jump on the wagon, along with Russia, China and South Korea & target Apophis' de-railing. -- Salome Carlos | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 832 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi Scott! I'll write a little something for the Third World War thread. Cheers! Dyson | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1629 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... Just additional insight, on Apophis: 99942 Apophis - Discovered 2004 June 19 by R. A. Tucker, D. J. Tholen and F. Bernardi at Kitt Peak. Also known as Apep, the Destroyer, Apophis is the Egyptian god of evil and destruction who dwelled in eternal darkness. As a result of its passage within 40~000 km of the earth on 2029 Apr. 13, this minor planet will move from the Aten to the Apollo class. NOTE: it is given the name of - the Destroyer -. Edward. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1157 Registered: 10-2007 |
We must be cautious here in the names The Revelations of the Red Meteor is one and the same as now identified as 99942-Apophis. The diameter of this beast is given by Ptaah as 350-Meters (= 1,148.3-feet diameter}. This comes from space by it's own natural cause, therefore the Plejarens cannot and will not divert it. On the other hand, Contact Report 150 also states that the volume of The Destroyer is 1.72 times that of the Earth. So these are two distinctly different objects. For the record Peace TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 145 Registered: 07-2009 |
J_rod7, I think Edward's point is that the scientists effectively gave it that name, which perhaps arose as a self-generated/recognized warning from the subconscious, one that contradicts their "official" position. | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2009 |
To all. Here is the letter I addressed to President Obama, Administrator Bolden, and POGO - with slight modifications to the last line for each recipient. If any of you wish to use it, in whole or in part, feel free (though I refuse responsibility for anything but my own actions - of course). +++++ Dear ..., I am writing as a concerned citizen, not only of the United States, but also of the Earth. It has been known for some time that on April 13, 2029 the asteroid designated 99942 Apophis will pass extremely close to the Earth. So close in fact, that there remains a possibility of collision. Should the collision be missed in 2029, Apophis will again pass within collision distance of the Earth on April 13, 2036. If it strikes the earth (an explosive energy of approximately 1 gigaton(1)), it would not only demand the lives of many thousands – even millions – of people should it strike an inhabited area of the planet, but the death-toll in subsequent days, weeks, and months would also be astronomical (pardon the pun) no matter where it strikes; giant tsunamis (if in an ocean), millions of metric tons of dust thrown into the atmosphere, and the release of tectonic tensions, would all have wide-spread and catastrophic effects. The Earth's environment is already in dire distress because of humanity's irresponsible use of petroleum resources, and in the face of such an event, the fragility of the infrastructures of the countries of Earth will also become apparent. We cannot afford – neither in economic, nor in moral terms – to allow such an event to occur. According to http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/a99942.html, Apophis is 270 meters in diameter and has a mass of approximately 270 million metric tons. Yet, in an analysis published by NASA itself, it is clear that this data is by no means absolutely known(2). Yet scientists at NASA presume to state that there is only a 1/250,000 chance of collision in 2036(3). Russian scientists, on the other hand, are already planning a mission to the asteroid to investigate further, and if necessary, deflect it. There is absolutely no logical reason of any sort for American scientists and engineers to refuse to join forces with the Russians in erring on the side of caution. Very much to the contrary, in fact: there is much to be gained from cooperation. And so, I come to the point of this letter. I urge you to take action for reason, peace, and life: please cooperate in a mission to Apophis. Respectfully, Timothy James Joko-Veltman (1) http://www.keldysh.ru/papers/2007/source/article/PDC-07.pdf (2) http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/ (3) http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/oct/HQ_09-232_Apophis_Update.html | ||
Jeremygca New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hello everyone, This is my first post on the forums, and more to come!  Jokoveltman, such a well put together should not go to waste. I will be putting your letter to good use. Jeremy | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 558 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi J_Rod, Concerning your post 1157: The Dystroyer Comet spoken of in Contact 5 for example... was a more dense object than the Earth causing more magnetic, gravitational abberations. It is my understanding it's volumn was greater in density of the Earth such as a brown dwarf (a collapsed star) rather than the actual size in comparison to the Earth. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1159 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Jeremy Gaudreau, First, to give you WELCOME to the FIGU Forum. It will be a pleasure to learn more about you. It would be useful if you could write a little of your background and biography in the Forum section: ... » The Mission » "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier » How YOU found out about Billy Meier? This will give all of us some idea Who you are, Where you are from, Are you already familiar with any of the Spiritual Teachings, do you speak or read the German or any other language, What are your views on Global Over-Population, How would you propose the over-population be reduced. This is "a bit much" and a bit more than we usually ask of new members. As you have also expressed interest in the CFH, the information you may provide will assist our judgement for approval. It is unusual for new FIGU members to jump feet-first into the CFH. The Circle is a completely democratic organization, and our rules for members are based on the same structure as those for Passive Membership in FIGU. Acceptance for membership is also dependent on a majority vote of the Circle. No Intent here to discourage you, friend, our group is a 'working-group', and our efforts are on behalf of Billy, as his impulse to reduce the Global Over-Population is our cause. You may read Billy's written word = A Worldwide Controlled Birth Stop at this link: ... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition Looking forward to getting to know you better AS for NASA being a "PR" organization -- mostly true. The military has better hardware and capability than NASA. To get a joint cooperative effort going with Russia, the European Space Agency (ESA), China, India, and Japan will take some heavy-duty convincing at the level of Congress, the President, and the Joint-Chiefs-of-Staff in the Pentagon. They will have to be convinced of the potential danger, convinced that a joint effort will be necessary on behalf of Humanity, and be convinced that the "National Integrity" is on the line if we fail to stand with the other nations. Let the letters and emails loose upon them all, some will wake-up eventually. Action cannot wait to "the last minute" or it will be a case of "Too Little, Too Late." Salome *** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1638 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Michael.... You got my/the point! Edward. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi If an asteroid with a diameter of 11 km struck the Earth and brought about the extinction of the human race (as a similar sized meteorite did with the dinosaurs), how long would it take the Earth to recover from the impact? Just after some ideas and opinions on this. Thanks very much Joseph | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 890 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi Joseph! From the point of view of the dinosaurs and all the other majority of macroscopic species which became extinct, the Earth never DID recover. Cheers! Dyson | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 189 Registered: 06-2009 |
Do someone know if ever Billy mentioned where was the impact point of the "dinoaur-killer" meteor? Or if there were one, or many of them? Salome. Suv | ||
Sonik_01 Member Post Number: 120 Registered: 03-2006 |
Hi, Suv, The common consensus among scientists nowadays is that the crater was formed at the Gulf of Mexico. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1164 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hi Dyson, Very good point: ["From the point of view...(of) species which became extinct, the Earth never DID recover."] Can y'all imagine some of the Dinosaurs having survived the "Extinction Event" still roaming the Earth today. I think I would give up strolling in the Woods or any wilderness. The Human Species, if it ever got started, would only survive by living in fortified Cities - similar to that movie: 10,000 BC. Of course there is another option -- the Saurians being highly intelligent in their own right, might strike a deal with Humans for sharing the Earth. This would be a strategic move for both species for survival of each, as otherwise one or the other would hunt the other into extinction anyways. Such an arrangement would be interesting for the multiple sources of advancement in sciences and technology. Imagine -- both species together going out into the Stars already. Oh, I'm just writing a dream out loud. Imagine... Peace *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 362 Registered: 10-2008 |
The impact was in the Yucatan in modern day Mexico , inner Gulf . MC | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Dyson, When you say "the Earth never DID recover" are you referring to the Earth never recovering its weather (humid, hot greenhouse, ect) back which the dinosaurs, huge insects and animals needed to survive in which allowed them to grow that big? |
