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Kingman
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Post Number: 766
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it was the 65 million year ago meteor impact that caused the crater on/near the Yucatan Penisula Billy mentions. Again, I think I remember such a discussion.

look here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater
a friend in america
Shawn
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Jokoveltman
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all. I have realized that I have made an error in "giving away" the letter I composed regarding Apophis, and I would like to retract this statement. Each one must do their own work; therein lies real and lasting value. I encourage you to research on your own, to form your own thoughts, and to put them into your own words. It is a (bit of a) challenge, but very much more rewarding. And don't let the monolithic and willful ignorance that abounds on this planet get you down (perhaps a much bigger challenge).

Regards,

Tim
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Members of FIGU!

I'm so happy that my post got you chatting among yourselves. As I recall from my past experiences here, that's all you seem to do: chat like you're on the phone to each other or quibble. I rarely did get much sense from any of you, and was often left feeling frustrated by your posts, so I stopped posting altogether. I don't know why I decided to give it another go this time. I guess I must have thought I just might get an answer. Silly me.

Oh, and one more thing, just in case it hasn't crossed your minds, from the perspective of Earth, the Earth did recover because other animals, including humans, came to live on it.

Sorry to sound so cantankerous! I just thought that with the vast level of knowledge disseminated by FIGU, someone here might have some idea. But clearly FIGU can't account for its members.

Never mind!
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 897
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everybody,

Having mused here about the same action-at-a-distance superweapons which were evidently used to pulverize the World Trade Center towers in 2001 doing the same trick to Apophis - if the need arises - I was wondering what this 350m diameter lump of rock might look like compared to the 450 odd metre tall WTC. So I went out and grabbed a generic asteroid photo from NASA and a "before" photo of Manhattan, and - having adjusted the scale - stuck them together to get an idea what was heading our way, with the view to visualising the possible pulverising task.

Definitely looks easily doable.

Have a look.

Cheers!
Dyson

Apophis to scale
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Scott
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Post Number: 1926
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dyson,

To this day (getting off topic again) I have not seen any real evidence supporting the WTC buildings were hit by some sort of super laser weapon. I have watched at least 10 documentaries on this, and everything has pointed to the buildings being imploded due to internal explosives placed within various parts of the buildings including the basements. Everything points to a controlled demolition. Many witnesses have come forth stating they heard explosions within the buildings before they came crashing to the ground. There is also mention of Thermite, but beyond that, I haven't seen anything even remotely support the use of an invisible beam. Granted this technology may exist, but it would seem there would be visible indicators which would present themselves allowing that conclusion to be reached.

Scott
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joseph, I remember reading an article which claimed that 97% of life on earth has already become extinct. As far as recovering, I'm sure there would still be small pockets of humans able to survive. We need only read the contact notes to find out what would happen if it hit earth. By the sounds of it, it would be pretty devastating. Not sure if the sun would shine after all the volcanic ash was distributed through the atmosphere. So if we lived through it we would definitely need an alternative source of light and heat to be able to plant food. We'd all become homesteaders again. :-)
Does the asteroid hitting earth cause you to become fearful?
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 364
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joseph ;

Yes , we are some of the same people that you see in traffic . Having the clear information of the Geisteslehre does not make us drive better . Not yet anyway !

Cheers , MC
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Matt
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,

I agree. I also think we should only stick to things we KNOW happened in 9/11 and that is a controlled demolition.

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Jokoveltman
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I share Scott's opinion about the WTC, but might I also point out that even were such a weapon used on the WTC, the physical nature of the WTC is very much different than that of an asteroid, the former being mostly air, and with a relative (to the Earth) velocity of 0 m/s. Those two facts alone would make me think long and hard before trying to use such a weapon on Apophis.

Tim
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Matt
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 04:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

.........but 9/11 was an unconventional top down controlled demolition!
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justsayno

Thanks for your reply.

I read in the "Chronology from the Absolute Origin of the Absolute Absolutum until Today" that such an asteroid/comet completely wiped out the dinosaurs and all animals over 36 kg. Granted, humans are more resourceful, but if continents start shifting and islands start sinking and new land masses start appearing from out of the oceans, I suspect we'd be wiped out too.

What I really want to know is how long would the Earth suffer from the aftermath of such a collision? The Chronology states that Earth was in darkness for 342 years. Was the Earth inhabitable after that, or did it still have other processes to undergo, and if so, for how long? To whom do you ask such questions?

In answer to yours: no, an asteroid hitting Earth doesn't cause me to become fearful, because as far as I am aware that isn't going to happen for some time, if ever at all. But it is a fearful prospect, should it occur.

Joseph
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 900
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Scott,

You asked about the obvious pulverisation-at-a-distance of the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001.

Who said anything about lasers? NOT lasers.

I'm certain that Apophis could be EASILY pulverised at a distance with the super-weapons that exist here on Earth today.

Jay Jonas (Captain, Ladder Co 6 Department of New York), "And right around the three-hour mark, all of a sudden, a beam of sunshine hit the (6th floor) stairway. I looked and said, "Guys, there used to be 106 floors above us and now I'm seeing sunshine." They're like, "What?" I said, "There's nothing above us. That big building doesn't exist." http://archive.recordonline.com/adayinseptember/jonas.htm

WHERE exactly is that skyscraper, above that neatly sliced off girder, in the above photograph?

I always find it funny that people here "believe" in space aliens, flying saucers, etc., but not in other things with even more hard evidence.

If someone REALLY wants to try to get to the bottom of this s/he has to do her/his own research. Follow the links.

IF you want to do this, please read: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.sdw142.DerfalscheWeg.htm

This is VERY important to understand before you proceed further.



WTC towers pulverized.jpg


WTC core pulverized.jpg



Here's the key to understanding the WTC (VERY!) controlled demolition:

"But I do know that the killers who organized this massacre are very cunning and only too well know how we “cattle” tend to behave. We get bogged down debating about the tiny details so we can’t see the forest for the trees. So they use substituted drone AIRCRAFT which shoot MISSILES as well as also using THERMITE and THERMATE and high EXPLOSIVES and Quantum weapons and Scalar weapons(?) and everything else they can get their blood-drenched claws on. Then they sit back and wet themselves laughing at us while we all advance our one particular favorite theory, while disparaging all who hold other views, and the years pass and the killing continues. And they’ve been doing it for millennia."

http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=14&page=10772 See my post of 29/1, No. 845

Right? They DO use thermite, explosives, etc.

Go back and read my recent posts 814 & 833 @ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/10772.html

See my Jan 24th posting @ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/2784.html?1264386476

Here are my questions for you, Scott. Where did all the filing cabinets, for instance, go? as well as the rest of the two towers? What melted all those cars and trucks - sometimes melting the engine blocks and door handles without burning the upolstery - over on the East side of Manhattan that morning? FAR away from the WTC complex?

Please see my postings of 18 & 20 February, 2007 if you want to find more information.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8860.html#POST25554

It’s called “the Hutchinson Effect”. www.hutchisoneffect.ca

It’s quite technical.

It’s long been weaponised.

Dr. Judy Wood has done a very good job, in spite of her lack of technical/electrodynamic training, pulling together the evidence. Remember Ptaah's warning about "futuristic weapons, of which the normal Earth humans have no idea, and of which they do not ever dare to dream."? See my Jan 24th posting @ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/2784.html?1264386476


"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity."- Marshall McLuhan

For the detailed documentation that Sept 11, 2001 was permitted to happen, please study www.wanttoknow.info

Salome,
Dyson

P.S. Darren: Yes that's what I meant about "never recovered" from the viewpoint of the extinct species, etc.
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Badr
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Post Number: 516
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please get back to the topic.

Peace,
Badr
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Thomas
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Post Number: 800
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joseph, where did you read that chronolgy exactly please?
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll email it to you, seeing as you've conveniently posted your address.

I think I got it from a member here a few years back. There's a lot of interesting information.
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Matt
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Post Number: 119
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Badr, feel free to move this but this is pretty much all i have to say here.


Hi Dyson and all,

They probably used a few different ways to bring down the towers (CD, therm, scalar?) just to make sure they came down. Who knows? We don't need to get bogged down arguing amongst ourselves (not just us here) about how exactly they came down. Thats what they want us to do-argue. All we need to know is one of the ways they brought the towers down and the one that stands out is CD. We just need to know that, which we do, to know that they did it. Thats all.
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Dyson:

Would you be so kind to share with me your email address?

or send me a howdy to: techieatwork@gmail.com

There are a couple of things that I would like to discuss with you, re clean energy, etc

(smile)
--
Salome
Carlos
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 906
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear, Carlos!

This is probably going to sound "haughty", mate, ( Oh, well! :-/ ) but my current circumstances and the very pressing limits to my resources preclude me from having private one-on-one email discussions with my friends from the list about things like magneto/eletro/gravitics (and the free energy which accompanies it) etc. I trust that you will be understanding of my difficult situation (mentioned previously here on the forum) which I already once before allowed to get well out of hand during my domain-master decade, and - being a congenital soft-touch when it comes to trying to share info with fellow truth-seekers - I really don't want to set the precedent by starting private email discussions now. I guess it's a little like why the P's never let Billy bring a friend along to their contacts. Everybody will want to come. Chaos, etc. :-(( Life, eh?

Besides, I'm not really a specialist in any one discipline, more of an all-rounder, and what I know about these (in some cases back-engineered ET) technologies is just what I gleaned from public sources, some of which I'm happy to point you to. So I don't have much to offer you about specifics anyway, Carlos.

HOWEVER! :-)

Our moderators, knowing how much Billy and the Plejaren have to say about free energy and antigravity, etc., have wisely provided us a thread called "Antigravity Technology" (intended for) "Discussions on the various inventions that are considered antigravity technology." And although many of the overunity devices you may want to discuss with me do not have overt gravitational-perturbation characteristics, I think they'll probably let us all use this thread. That way, our technical information can be viewed and maybe useful for other tech-heads.

Seen this? http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/Free_Clean_Energy.htm It's a 2002 article, but still valuable.

See you over at "Antigravity Technology"?

Cheers!
Dyson
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Victor
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

allo, good point matt.
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dyson. It's cool. I see your point.

Besides, I rather study & practice some more before I have (any) smart questions to ask publicly.

I will check that thread too.

Thank you.
--
Salome
Carlos
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Edward
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Post Number: 1659
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tim.....

Understand what you mean....on your comment concerning the Pulverizing Weapon and Apophis.

Well, it would indeed be best to try it out from within the cargo cabin of the
Space Shuttle, so to speak? And see how it works out in the space environment.

It would have to be operated in such fashion. Than, we will know.


Edward.
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I admire the Russian approach of not planning to use nuclear weapons to divert Apophis. Even though Ptaah suggested it to be the best option, there is a long term danger of publicly taking out nuclear weapon into space for whatever noble cause it may be for. Even though the Russian method has less chance of success, and defies practicality, I would give kudos to them just for their thinking and bravery (knowing that the meteor would devastate Eastern Europe and Western Russia).

But sometime, it is the mind that has to be followed rather than the heart and this is one such occasion. The International community needs to decide on the methodology fast as time will run out in making a decision. RUSSIA NEED SUPPORT.
Salome.
Suv
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Gaiaguysnet
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Edward,

These secret super weapons consist of multiple MASSIVE underground installations. And longitudinally-polarised electromagnetic interferometers, for instance, are deterred by neither outer space nor sold matter, so removing Apophis would be like shooting fish in a barrel, as they say.

The USA doesn't posses these weapons (in so far as I can ascertain) yet.

Happy truth-seeking!

Dyson

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