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    Justsayno Member Post Number: 102 Registered: 10-2009 |
"I checked the Aegis, funny that there are no records of the FM-1 launch which would have happened between the FTR-1a on Jan. 25, 2001 and the FM-2 on Jan. 25, 2002." Hi Dyson, just wondering if this could be what was first fired at the WTC? Hi Mahigitam, as far as I know the only ones who would have access to thermite, would be demolition crews. Sheila | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 845 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Sheila, You wrote, “Hi Dyson, just wondering if this (type of missle) could be what was first fired at the WTC?” I don’t know. I don’t even really care, to be blunt. But I do know that the killers who organized this massacre are very cunning and only too well know how we “cattle” tend to behave. We get bogged down debating about the tiny details so we can’t see the forest for the trees. So they use substituted drone aircraft which shoot missiles as well as also using thermite and thermate and high explosives and Quantum weapons and Scalar weapons(?) and everything else they can get their blood-drenched claws on. Then they sit back and wet themselves laughing at us while we all advance our one particular favorite theory, while disparaging all who hold other views, and the years pass and the killing continues. And they’ve been doing it for millennia. Salome, Dyson | ||
Johnnybalmain Member Post Number: 91 Registered: 11-2007 |
Hi Dyson I do tend to agree with you in that the waters of truth have been muddied greatly with the aid of many deviations put forward by many of suspect rationality. Peace John (a lismorian) | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 88 Registered: 06-2006 |
There is a lot of buzz on the net about Iran's supposed 'Telling Blow' coming up on feb. 11 will be interesting to see if anything comes by it.... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2441605/posts | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 900 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi Gib_niner, The D.O. are numerology freaks. Eleven is their lucky number. To them it means either power or terror, I can't remember which (9 or 11). Think Apollo 11, September 11th. WWI Armistice Day (being 11/11), etc. Salome, Dyson | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 06-2006 |
hello Gaiaguys, yeah its always a numbers game with these folks (also not forgetting the london bombings - 7/7) - though then again got to thinking as to whether or not there could be somehing intrinsically destructive about the no. 11 itself - insofar as a numerological natural effect occuring as such completely naturally (similar to the astrological trends), as opposed to 'that lot' selecting certain times and dates for things to happen on, especially when considering that if WW3 does get goin that it is going to be kicking off in November, although just a thought is all. also good to have you back on the forum, still reeling a bit from that link you posted on the Yakusa, crickey they have very long memories! Mind you when you consider the desvastation that was brought to Japan - its not very surprsing now is it...in fact makes perfect sense - especially if it is the case that their thinking is still entrenched in that mindset of being very vengeful and patient samurai and all of which that entails. Also there is a documetary called 'Atomic cafe' that is free to watch on google video that i was watching a little while back - that serves, not that its hardly needed, as a further stark reminder of the horrenduous A-bomb atrocities that were inflicted upon so many CIVILIANS. still so very perplexing how these folks (speaking just generally now of military-inustrial-sectors) who like to think of themselves as being so clever are just in the end so..unbelievably an incomprehensibly STUPID as to not be able to forsee the natural cause and effect repercussions that inevtiably will bring such negative effects right back to them, as is can only be inevitable, you just have to scratch your head and wonder at how near-sighted they just ultimately are in spite of all their technological powers/prowess. lastly, in between doing translations - if you are ever stuck for a good read - there is a book called 'The Man in the High Castle' by PKD which deals with the alternate timeline in which the Axis powers have actually gone and won the war - (thus consequently Japan controls the US - & therefore American citizens, all of em, are totally subjugated!, ha  ) - makes for an entertaining read. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 909 Registered: 03-2004 |
Yo Gib9r! You wrote, "there could be something intrinsically destructive about the no. 11 itself" I'm not smart enough to understand how numerology works, as described by Billy, but I think you might be very close. I avoid numerology. Certainly it's only logical that the Kabala freaks have a version of numerology that is every bit as corrupted as religion (& "astrology", etc. etc. etc.) is to the teachings of the truth. WW3? Sure. The 11th month. House of Scorpio (the scorpion is the masonic emblem) and all that stuff. The Yakuza have long memories? Compared to whom? The Bafath? The Khazarians? The Irish? The ..... etc. etc. Don't get me started, mate. :-/ No wonder the Japanese hate the USA http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.v6p436,437,443,444.htm You wrote, "still so very perplexing how these folks (speaking just generally now of military-industrial-sectors) who like to think of themselves as being so clever are just in the end so..unbelievably an incomprehensibly STUPID as to not be able to foresee the natural cause and effect repercussions that inevitably will bring such negative effects right back to them, as is can only be inevitable, you just have to scratch your head and wonder at how near-sighted they just ultimately are in spite of all their technological powers/prowess." It's not ONLY (superficial) stupidity. That's a cunning disguise for a REALLY perplexing ("satanic") religious (alchemy-related) belief that the world must be "dissolved" before it can then be allowed to "congeal" into a place where The Great Architect of the Universe (a.k.a. "Lucifer") can OPENLY rule his realm - as opposed to just being the behind-the-scene landlord, as he is now, and has been ever since Henn (Jehovah the Cruel, the Unjust, the Barbarian, etc) died and the Bafath took cover in their underground rats' nest. End Times insanity. Armageddon. The Rapture. The world must be in a state of total war before "Jesus" (666) can return. It's all just SO suicidally insane that normal people cannot BEGIN to get their TV-anesthetised heads around any of it. "some people actually believe that we have to have wars for these religious reasons." http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/DPBDRosin.htm These two sub-headlines from the Sydney Morning Herald do a pretty good job of summing the entire situation up, I think. June 20th, 2003 - Global warming 'threatens Earth with mass extinction' June 21st, 2003 - Bush team takes global warming off the agenda Cheers! Dyson | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2009 |
Quote: "No wonder the Japanese hate the USA". Dyson, this obviously unconsidered remark makes you sound rather foolish, and a bit - well - stupid. "The Japanese" do not hate the USA - I know this from first-hand, prolonged, and direct experience (and yes, I do speak and read Japanese). Considering the general wisdom of humanity, it can be said that there are almost certainly some Japanese who do indeed hate the USA, but that is very different from what you said. Perhaps it would be advisable to consider your words a little more carefully before pressing the "Preview/Post Message" button. Regards, Tim} | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 805 Registered: 03-2004 |
I too know many Japanese and they do not concur with their country hating t= he USA so I think it best not to generalize so broadly :-) patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Tim, as long as there are people still around who were in WW2, there will be people who hate the USA. And really, would they tell you that they hate you, even if they did? | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2009 |
Justsayno, I do not take issue with that - haters are free to do so. But I do take issue with Dyson's statement about the Japanese as a whole. It is akin to saying that "Australians are criminals", or "Canadians love maple syrup", or "Germans drive fast on highways." All of the above are only partly true ... and if one looks around, the effects of part-truths com glaringly obvious. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 10-2009 |
Actually we do love maple syrup.... After the two atomic bombs, do you really think that the effects are still not seen today? Did you know that everyone also hated the jews during this time - even the allies - their very own liberators? Boat loads of Jewish people were turned away from almost all countries. That was common knowledge then, but we have a tendency to re-write history. I don't think the Japanese hate the people of the USA, only the people in charge of the bombs. In much the same way as when I found out that in the '50's the US used Winnipeg Canada as a testing ground for anthrax simulants. They wanted to see how far the sickness carried - look up Project Saint Jo - during the cold war. It's effects are still there today. People are still losing cattle over anthrax, except they just don't know where it came from - because it's only been recently declassified. It's hidden in the ground and given the right conditions, it continues to rear it's ugly head. How come that isn't a problem where I live, but it is in Manitoba? I love Americans, I just don't like what their governments have done. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 912 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Tim, You are absolutely right. It was an unwarranted generalisation, for which I apologise. My twin sister used to live in Odawara and regaled me with tales about how crazy her students were for all things USAmerican. We Earth humans do tend to make generaisations about peoples and nationalities, and it's those general characteristics which are what differentiate us collectively, of course. It has nothing to do with racism. My above comment was made in the same spirit that Billy talks about USAmericans and Israelis, etc. I should have said, "No wonder the people behind the scenes who run Japan hate the USA." http://www.cheniere.org/images/weapons/yakuza.htm Incidentally, Tim, having lived in Australia for 38 years, were you to say to me, "Australians are criminals". I'd say, "On the whole, yes, I'd have to agree with you." Having lived in Stuttgart for three and a half years, were you to say, "Germans drive fast on highways", I'd say, "Yeah, like low-flying jets!" Best, Dyson | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 07-2009 |
Dyson, Is this a...generalisation: "We Earth humans do tend to make generaisations about peoples and nationalities, and it's those general characteristics which are what differentiate us collectively, of course." Cheers!!! | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 914 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Michael, So is this: "Is this a...generalisation: 'We Earth humans do tend to make generaisations about peoples and nationalities, and it's those general characteristics which are what differentiate us collectively, of course.'" ;-) Cheers! Dyson | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 915 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, Anyone reasonably familiar with the Meier material will notice that it is not pro-USAmerica. When I was a little boy growing up on the mean streets of working-class Boston during the Cold War my little schoolmates and I were led to believe (<-- operative word) that what set "our glorious country" apart from most others was our fundamental and immutable respect for the rule of law. A citizen suspected of a crime was initially investigated by the police. If the suspicions were substantiated, then the suspect was arrested, possibly charged, taken to court, tried by a jury of her/his peers and - if judged to be guilty by that jury - finally sentenced by an impartial judge. At all times the accused was presumed innocent until legally proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. USAmericans (in GENERAL!) used to be very proud of this system when I was a little boy, and it was considered the cornerstone of the "self-evident" and basic human rights that our patriotic forefathers fought and died for, and so on and so forth. Check this out: U.S. citizen in CIA's cross hairs January 31, 2010, Los Angeles Times "The CIA sequence for a Predator strike ends with a missile but begins with a memo. Usually no more than two or three pages long, it bears the name of a suspected terrorist, the latest intelligence on his activities, and a case for why he should be added to a list of people the agency is trying to kill. No U.S. citizen has ever been on the CIA's target list. But that is expected to change ..." http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/31/world/la-fg-cia-awlaki31-2010jan31 License to Kill? Intelligence Chief Says U.S. Can Take Out American Terrorists February 3, 2010, ABC News "The director of national intelligence affirmed rather bluntly today that the U.S. intelligence community has authority to target American citizens for assassination ... " http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/license-kill-intelligence-chief-us-american-terrorist/story?id=9740491&page=1 Salome, Dyson | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 916 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, The thing about being well-trained is that when you see something that is at the very core of your training, you can see a LOT more than the majority of other people who basically know nothing about - for instance - material science and modern construction techniques. As Semjase tells us in her tenth contact, "Billions of humans look up to the stars in the sky, however without any results or realizations. Astronomers, however, while looking up to the sky, discover new worlds and write books about it. But what they see and recognize, other people cannot see or recognize, even if they can look up. Despite their seeing eyes they are blind." And, as I said here recently, none are so blind as those who will not see. "1,000 Architects & Engineers Call for a Real 9/11 Investigation" January 25, 2010, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth "It's an extraordinary statement that more than 1,000 architects and engineers have put their credibility and reputations on the line to demand a new investigation into 9/11. Compare this number to a dozen or so that are willing to publicly support the official NIST* findings. We expect big breakthroughs in 2010." http://www.ae911truth.org/info/152 *"The National Institute of Standards and Technology is a federal technology agency" "NIST's core values: Integrity: We are objective, ethical, and honest." http://www.nist.gov/index.html Notice the official colours of the USA, on this federal government website, being blue and gold? Sorry! Did I say that? :-) I meant to say: notice the official colours of the Illuminati on this federal government page, being blue and gold? Salome, Dyson P.S. The official colours of the USA are red, white and blue (in case you are a visiting extraterrestrial who slept through your briefing sessions.) The official colours of Australia are green and gold.  Goblet of Truth page LXIX "However, all the items named here only represent the start, because in secret there is a mighty organisation of the governing class and powerful people as well as many of their obedient lackeys emerging from amongst your humanity, who are creating a secret order of darkness with their own evil laws and ordinances, who are bent on hatred for the poor and weak and against the economically imprisoned and all normal citizens. And it is their desire to seize ever more power, more money and entire mastery over the whole Earth and your humanity for themselves, therefore it is spreading their evil supremacy over the world, supported by its obedient vassals of all kinds who are greedy for blood as well as profit. Even the powerful ones of the economy are feeling the might and obeying the evil laws of the dark order which is spreading its dangerous and fatal poison of hatred everywhere, into everything and against everyone who does not share the same opinion as the dark power. Therefore, you human beings of Earth are no longer active to any great extent, but take the path of idleness with an empty expression in your eyes, knowing not what you should do and where you should go, because you have nothing else to do that brings you joy and a good reward." | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 194 Registered: 06-2009 |
The Meier material is not pro-any country. As Michel Horn often says in his radio shows...the Meier material is an equal opportunity offender. It's just that U.S. and its meddling in other countries affair is instigating much war and strife that could have been avoided otherwise. If we see the recent history of earth humanity, countries have become superpower in four steps: 1. Hard work: Bringing the socio-economic development to a high level by mostly internal reforms and trade. 2. Greed and aspiration: Develop sense of pride within its citizen and/or brainwashing for the next level. 3. Shock and awe: Military show of strength (necessary or un-necessary). Like colonisation by the European powers, halting Nazi Germany in its track by Soviet Union, dropping of nuclear weapons by U.S.A etc. 4. Open bullying: Elevation the socio-economic development to a still higher level through projection of soft power or short, one-sided military victories, bounty thereof. Global recognition as a global superpower comes at this stage. …and stayed superpower by just one mean: 1. Preserving the status quo: Maintaining status quo by befriending the powerful, subjugation the less powerful, containing the to-be-powerful. This is done through an interesting ploy of developing a strong alibi. For example, the some European countries were successful in convincing their populace that their conquest of South American/Asian/African territories was for the good of these "un-civilised" people. Likewise, The U.S. barges into other country by claiming to get rid of their problematic regimes when it is front of everyone that they occupy oil-rich countries leaving aside more problematic “devoid of geopolitical benefit” countries in Africa or for that matter "risky" countries like North Korea. Bottom-line: It is the U.S. that has the most stake in maintaining the status quo in economics, politics and military - because in the status quo, they are sitting at the top. It's obvious that any other country with our current level of consciousness would have done the same. For example, if China becomes the next superpower in 20 years, definitely we will see U.S. challenging the status quo more and China defending it. Salome. Suv | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2009 |
Justsayno, I lived nearly 6 years in Japan, during which time I visited both the old and new A-bomb memorials in Nagasaki, as well as the one in Hiroshima - of course I know that the effects of the bomb remain. But one cannot (logically) conclude, based on lasting material and psychological effects, that the Japanese hate the US, or even the former military leaders of the US (including Pres. Roosevelt). No doubt, some do, but "the Japanese" means everyone of Japanese citizenship (or perhaps descent), and it is obviously false that everyone of more than 100 million people hate any given personality or country. And what an illogical (and obviously false) thing to say, "everyone also hated the Jews during this time"! That is so silly, that I can only assume you are making a joke, and I'll leave it at that. As for maple syrup, kindly speak for yourself. I do not have citizenship, but I grew up in Canada (not far from Winnipeg, actually). I know for a fact there are Canadians born and bred who do not love (or even like) maple syrup, thus one cannot honestly say "Canadians love maple syrup", unless one adds a qualifier such as "some", "many", or "most" to the front. The same is also true for Australian criminals; notice Dyson's qualifier: "On the whole", which acknowledges that what follows is a generalization, and thus, not strictly true for every Australian. And also for German highway drivers; even if most do drive like "low-flying jets", just one slower (reasonable?) driver is enough to make the statement into a partial-truth. If you wish to reply, perhaps we should move this discussion to a different thread (suggestions anyone?), as this conversation is straying rather a bit off topic. Dyson, I did not think you were racist in any way. Regards to all, Tim | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 116 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Tim, ok, ok, I get your point. Would it be fair to say that after WW2, the Japanese hated the USA government? No I wasn't making a joke when I said "everyone also hated the Jews during this time". Sure it looks silly now, but back then (WW2), things were different. A boat load of Jewish people were turned away in the Montreal harbour simply because they were jewish. It was common knowledge that our government turned them away. Like I said, we love to re-write history, that atrocity is never talked about in our classrooms today. I remember it was talked about once in a local school as an open conversation in the classroom (never taught). The teacher was fined and lost his job. Everyone can also trace their geneology back to a criminal - and marrying first cousins too, lol. If you're on the auto bahn (?spelling), you have to drive fast, don't the slow drivers get fined? | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 156 Registered: 07-2009 |
Many Australians are proud of their convict past. Proud convict past an evolutionary lesson for snooty Darwin: The Age "Charles Darwin wrote that the convict ships brought human cargo that must lead to a degenerate population..................Australia, it turned out, transformed into a much more upstanding society than the great naturalist prophesied. Indeed, to prove how wrong Darwin's judgements were, a giant genealogy project is being launched after Australia Day to begin tracing the nation's convict bloodlines." http://www.theage.com.au/national/proud-convict-past-an-evolutionary-lesson-for-snooty-darwin-20090125-7pgq.html | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1331 Registered: 02-2000 |
Who is the Dark Power? We would like to know. How can we expose them if we don't know exactly who they are. My Website | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 174 Registered: 10-2004 |
Norm, here you ask who is the 'Dark Power', yet there you denigrate someone who has researched this question for his whole life, nonsensically calling him a racist and spewing the typical antisemitism jargon. If you really want to know who is the 'Dark Power', look in the mirror. Your vibe will tell you what you want to know. Love is always the way |
