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    The_original_dave Member Post Number: 216 Registered: 05-2007 |
Bob, You said, ''and hypnotize Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins to believe they actually landed on the moon,'' Where did you hear that? | ||
Alan Member Post Number: 182 Registered: 06-2006 |
"..according to that website, neither one of those photos is identified as being from Apollo 11 or Apollo 15." Hi Bob, You caught me out!  I should have check out what i was posting before posting it. The identical backgrounds of Apollo 11 and 15 landings that I was referring too were mentioned in one of those moon hoax video links i posted in my 173 post. And because I couldn't post the screen shots of the pictures in the video I just did a quick search on google to find the ones in question, but I posted the wrong ones thinking thats what they were talking about. Anyway its mentioned in this video if you want to have to see it - (there are 5 parts) Lunar Legacy Episode 1, Part 1 (Did we land on the moon?) 7 min - 16/01/2007 flag movement, and conspiracy videos and their creators....moon hoax conspiracy landings apollo 11 13 nasa fake proof lunar funny thing happened way coverup landing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc | ||
Alan Member Post Number: 183 Registered: 06-2006 |
Bob these two moon haox video's are also very good ones too. Did We Really Land On The Moon? 1 of 5 11 min - 17/03/2008 Did We Really Land On The Moon?...moon landing ufo nasa alien documentary science universe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5RtPU7F_HU Did we land Men on the Moon? 51 min - 21/03/2006 Greatest hoax yet, see astronauts refuse to swear on the bible they flew to the moon. moon landings, conspiracy theory, new world order, history, http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-2265515730495966561 | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 166 Registered: 10-2007 |
Greetings All In Peace, To the Discussion of the "Hoax", consider this question: What is REAL and what is HOAXED about the Apollo 11 Moon landing? More importantly: WHY hoax some part? The answer to WHAT is: the actual events of the landing could not be made to the public. A staged reproduction of the landing was the filmed in the studio, and fed to the world. The answer to WHY is: a HUGE COVER-UP OF TRUTH by the government. From the Apollo landing, there WAS returned some 21.7 Kilograms of material from near the landing site to Earth. For the analysis of this material, go to www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/frame.html?. Click on the Apollo 11 map Icon, scroll down and click on Sample Catalog, then click on Apollo 11 Catalog (16 Mb). This will open a 478-page PDF file of the complete handling and analysis of these moon materials. The REASON for the cover-up is as follows...: > "According to hitherto un-confirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard. According to a former NASA employee Otto Binder, unnamed radio hams with their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets picked up the following exchange: NASA: What's there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11... Apollo11: These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous! OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there, Lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They're on the Moon watching us! A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium. Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11? Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known there was a possibility, the fact is, we were warned off!(by the Aliens). There was never any question then of a space station or a moon city. Professor: How do you mean "warned off"? Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology - Boy, were they big!...and menacing! No, there is no question of a space station. Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11? Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a quick scoop and back again. According to a Dr. Vladimir Azhazha: "Neil Armstrong relayed the message to Mission Control that two large, mysterious objects were watching them after having landed near the moon module. But this message was never heard by the public -- because NASA censored it." * According to a Dr. Aleksandr Kasantsev, Buzz Aldrin took color movie film of the UFOs from inside the module, and continued filming them after he and Armstrong went outside. * Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the cover-up. Walter Schirra aboard Mercury 8 was the first of the astronauts to use the code name 'Santa Claus' to indicate the presence of flying saucers next to space capsules. However, his announcements were barely noticed by the general public. It was a little different when James Lovell on board the Apollo 8 command module came out from behind the moon and said for everybody to hear: 'PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT THERE IS A SANTA CLAUS.' Even though this happened on Christmas Day 1968, many people sensed a hidden meaning in those words." < From: www.ufocasebook.com/Astronaut.html The Astronauts were later hypnotized to try to get them to forget all this.! Salome Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 260 Registered: 03-2007 |
Here it is Dave: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte, Gespräche, Block 5 203rd Contact, September 10th, 1985 Quetzal: 6. Am Leben bleiben nur jene, welche in ihren Mondlandungslügen hypnotisch derart verstrickt sind, dass sie selbst glauben, tatsächlich die Mondlandung durchgeführt oder zumindest dabei mitgewirkt zu haben. 6. Remaining alive are only those who are hypnotically bound with their Moon-landing lies, so they themselves believe that the Moon-landing actually was realized or at least that they have thereby cooperated. It may be mentioned somewhere else, too, but this one was handy. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 261 Registered: 03-2007 |
Mohammed: “If they were hypnotized, would they be working in outer space in a spacecraft?” They would implant a false memory of the event through their subconscious. You can find examples of these methodologies in such books as Mass Control: Engineering Human Consciousness and The Manchurian Candidate or you could enter, "MK-ULTRA" into your search engine. Regards | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 43 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hello Everbody, This open discussion is bringing up new facts and possibilities. J_Rod7 did bring up a very plausable explanation , but that would not come in line with the P's explanations about a haoxed moon landing. There is a good possibility that the landing was true, however having faced the unexpected from some UFO's , the studio took over to finish the scenario the way that was prepared beforehand to upstage the Soviets in any case. So they were hypnotized later not to talk about the UFO incident ! The P's explanation of half truths could also be because of their knowledge of what happened and involvement of some ET races in the incident. Who said they didnt have a spacecraft monitoring these events there ? Did they avert a danger that they dont want to talk about at this stage ? Was the cancellation of three further Appolo flights 18, 19, 20 related to that ? When I was talking about the Apollo 11 landing site and hardware left there , one needs to analyze of how such hardware could be sent to the moon earier through unmanned or manned missions as the P's claim. Well in both cases it has to be a Saturn 5 launch, which could be hardly be covered up. The reason that it has to go through Saturn 5 launch is the mass of the lunar lander which is 15 tons . For that reason I mentioned that it could not be done with hardware other than Apollo 11 itself. One other possibility would be that the Lunar lander of Apollo 10 mission which was only the full hardware rehearsal in Lunar orbit, had its lunar lander touch down at tranquiliy base, after the successful lunar orbital docking of Apollo 10 hardware ! No one would account for that Lander as it was eventually to crash on the moon after loosing its orbit or being de-orbited. But all this scenario less likely than the actual Apollo 11 hardware, which many are so willing to defend that it did not take place. There is no way that tranquility base would have an American Flag on the surface by Earth humans if the astronaut landing was hoaxed. So someone else must have done that homework ! How about the Plejarans themselves ?? Salome Mohammed | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 639 Registered: 06-2000 |
Rare Apollo Moon film footage . A jumping creature and a crawling insect at the moon landing. http://www.copernicus2.org/_FROG/Sites-slides/armstrong_the_frog_hunter.htm http://www.copernicus2.org/_FROG/Sites-slides/aldrin_the_spider_collector.htm Mark Campbell | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi everybody, I don’t mean to deviate the topics discussed here so far, but I just had to say this as it happened recently. Reading the prophecies and the predictions, I just found out that the first landing on the moon was fake. I can’t believe it because it looked soooo real. As some of you might know, the Discovery channel has a series of shows about the NASA expeditions and they started by showing their first attempts into space because Russia, like Billy predicted, had put a men in space already, and the Americans were rushing to do the same. The thing is, when finally, they show the part of the first landing on the moon by Neil Armstrong, they didn’t interview Neil. As they were showing interviews of every person involved, Neil Armstrong never talk about what he felt, what he saw or what he thought about it. They just completely avoided him as if he himself asked not to be interviewed about it for the show. It strikes me as really odd. As I was watching the show, they spoke briefly about that first landing on the moon, and all I wanted to hear was the personal experience from Neil. I couldn’t believe that they would skip him from that part of the story. So, now I know why they did that, Neil didn’t have the face to lie about an experience that never happened. What do you think? If you have the chance to watch it, you will notice that Neil talks about everything else but his personal experience. mb | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1172 Registered: 02-2000 |
This Apollo 11 hoax is such a shocker statement from Billy. But I find more & more bits & pieces as I search for evidence. "Only the Apollo 11 telemetry tapes made during the moonwalk are missing—and not those of Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations On July 21, 1969, Neil Armstrong became the first human to walk on the moon. He didn’t moonwalk alone – ‘Buzz’ Aldrin joined him on the surface – and he didn’t walk far. "After travelling hundreds of thousands of kilometers, the landing crew of the Apollo 11 lunar mission barely covered an area the size of a football pitch." http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/260-youll-never-moonwalk-alone/ Search For Apollo 11 TV Tapes Moves Into High Gear http://www.space.com/news/060824_apollo11_tapes.html My Website | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 322 Registered: 03-2003 |
For anyone here who has seen the movie "Capricorn One", you well see some striking similarities. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1173 Registered: 02-2000 |
All these rumors of UFO's on the moon watching Apollo 11 are lies. Given what Billy has told us. My Website | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi everybody: Just for the record; you guys are not going to believe this. I was watching the NASA missions on the discovery channel again, and after knowing the fake landing on the moon, I definitely wanted to pay attention about the films, comments etc… Well, this is what I noticed. First, you see Neil going down the ship, and they film him from the ship, but later “somebody” is filming or placed a camera from a distance and you see Neil going down the ship. Or maybe this was the second astronaut? Never you see the camera man going away from “placing” the camera. But then, Markc had some links about the frog jumping in the back, and I saw the FROG in the back! If you want a copy of this, you can buy it from the discovery channel store. It looks as clear, as the astronauts. Pretty amazing! And I have nothing against NASA, I always admire the courage of these men, but they didn’t need to lie. It was very unnecessary. Marcela | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1196 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Marcela.... I saw your mentioned, on Discovery. Interesting perceptive's, you have mentioned. And, yes, there are indeed may Anomalies...within the footage, that are shown...which should not be present, as you and Mark, mentioned. Well, I always did admire NASA, for the great and tremendous data they present and provide to us all; and still do admire their work! But, still...pity, they are influenced by DARK Forces, as the CIA and the Skull And Bones and the likes, alas...to say. Not to forget, Von Braun, and Walt Disney, himself...in the past. As I understood it, the NASA were in 'financial' difficulties some decades ago, and it seems that the mentioned above had always ben there to supply them with the needed finances, and thus, they in the NASA, had no other object, than, as usual to....Go Along. So, they made a - pack with the devil -, so to speak. How long this will go on: well, only time can tell...at the movement! Edward. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 54 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbNMGGzFqCw here's the possible frog from a youtube vid | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 32 Registered: 06-2008 |
Edward: I always saw NASA as the only true heroes of the USA, but they made a big mistake. What happened in my opinion is that Kennedy put a lot of pressure on them. He said that if by the end of the decade 60’s, no man lands on the moon he would cut financial support and close the program. So I understand that they were feeling the presure by July 1969. But what I don’t understand is that Kennedy unfortunately had been murdered and Nixon was in charge, maybe he would have said ok lets try one more time. Because the second was successful, right? Now my views about NASA have changed too. I was doing my math homework and the math tutor was finishing his Bachelor’s degree in mathematics, and I told him that he should apply to NASA right after graduation (as a joke), and he told me that NASA is not entirely a science entity, but rather is in part responsible for the US military advancements. So he didn’t want to work there. And yes, I noticed that the astronauts were not scientists; they were Air Force pilots. Now NASA has a totally scientific brunch in San Jose CA, NASA Aims? I just opposed any kind of military science. Regardless of this, I think they were brave and had a good goal; they got financed and they survived at the end. Marcela | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1197 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Marcela.... Yes, very wisely you speak! Am familiar with the Kennedy-Nixon scenario, and it does speak for itself...as you mentioned. NASA is indeed, very Military oriented: Spy satellites, GPS, etc...much of their Pay-Load, is Military, as your tutor is familiar with. And practically, most of our to days high tech devices and so forth are utilized first by NASA as well as the Military, before we...as consumers can make use of them. In some cases, the last I heard: it was a 7-10 lacking behind, before we get it, for use. And in the mean time, in those years...the devices will be perfected, and the same amount of years....would take place, etc.... Thus, to conduce any other Hoax(s) like the Apollo 11 one, could even look more realistic today, than say in those early days. So we do have to be very cautious, still...what NASA (and the Military and, Disney [Digital Imaging] Techniques or others), puts on our plates. If they Hoaxed Apollo 11 then, they can/will do it in our future to come, again, perhaps? Edward. | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 35 Registered: 06-2008 |
Edward: This is off topic,but what do you mean by "being very cautious about Disney?"  If you ban nuclear weapons completely, they will be manufactured again. The thing you have to do is ban war. Bertrand Russell. (Philosopher and mathematician) | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1199 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Marcela.... No, it is not off the topic. It is related. You may not be familiar with it, because you are still new on this board; which is understandable. If you utilize the Search Engine (above), and type in (Walt) Disney/von Braun, you will know of the Disney/von Braun, connection, concerning the Apollo 11 Hoax. They were approached by the US (government) secret service(s)...to realize the mentioned. Pleasant reading.... Edward. | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 37 Registered: 06-2008 |
Thank you Edward, Yes you are right, there are so many things I am not familiar with, but on the other hand it is kind of fun to know something new almost every day … I’ll do the research. | ||
Edmundo Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2008 |
Fake moon stone as gift from US ambassador in 1969: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=8424326 | ||
Jgarbush Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 09-2009 |
Here's something for you guys. Not sure how accurate this is, but I'll let you guys watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUOItuKm5UE End of part 9 is what threw me for a loop, but watch the whole thing. | ||
Jonzie Member Post Number: 67 Registered: 04-2009 |
In the following films, the exact location of the filming of the faked mission, plus the five guys who faked it are interviewed. They finally tell the truth. Nixon, Kissinger, Head of CIA, guy who filmed it, director of National Defense. If this is a repeat of something I missed, I apologize. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UncYQwFpLCQ Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBSMtNqn_c&feature=related Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UhAohTstK0&feature=related Blooper are included of the original attempt to make the fake film "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." |
