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Edward
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Post Number: 1568
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 06:58 am: | 
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Hi Tien....
Yes, it is referring to the: Past.
It was conducted Directly as well as Indirectly. Even at times, with disgrace
of an Ischwisch, as I can recall, reading once. Who was furious, when he came
back to Earth, and witnessed the results, of his crew.
But, in general, MANY ET species have settled on Earth and mixed with the
population. Not to forget, the Genetically Altered/Engineered humans who fled
from their Creatoroverlords, to Earth. Some have inter-mixed and some not, and
kept their race as to what/how it is now.
Edward. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 08:43 am: |
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I wonder if this sheep looks like it's father?
http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/12-01-2010/111621-sheep_human_face-0 |
Elreyjr
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:34 pm: |
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Greetings,
could this be the real m'coy for the future of food production technique just as was lightly mentioned by the P's? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100115/ap_on_he_me/eu_med_petri_pork
Jun |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 330
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 08:56 am: |
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Edward and Tien ;
It looks like this is in reference to the situationn in Russia with the Bardan ,long before the Tunguska event. I wonder if there any other circumstances that relate to this , or of any yet to occur.
Mark
32. "But in the course of centuries and millenia they will mix with other human species of the Earth and skies, so as to generate a new human species and special races, as the celestial sons did with the Earth people. |
Bianca
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 04:46 am: |
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A short article about AIDS and its possibilities of cure.
I find the Russian media to be far more open in many instances compare to our 'open' democracy...
http://english.pravda.ru/science/health/11-12-2009/111056-aids-0 |
Jokoveltman
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:11 am: |
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=aging-telomere
Genes and aging ... where have we heard about that before?
Tim |
Edward
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Post Number: 1673
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:37 am: |
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Hi Tim....
Yes, the Telomere...can indeed indicate many anomalies, which can prevent
certain diseases and the aging mentioned. Would indeed be a positive hint for
physicians to take heed to and track down a ceratin disease, and be treated in
time.
Always a positive pointer, and which indicates that an illness is not always
related to an aliment as One would think, it is associated to.
Quite Logical, of course. Always look in the gene pool!
Edward. |
Colorado_dirk
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 10:39 pm: |
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Another prediction proven true yesterday, it appears. Michael, please post the gene prediction on your site, if you find it to be real.
Even mainstream media MSNBCNNBCBS... is picking it up too. This could go somewhere, waay later, of course.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7168856/Ageing-gene-found-by-scientists-could-be-key-to-longer-lifespans.html:
The researchers have located a gene which determines whether or not a person will biologically age quickly or slowly.
They think that by testing for the gene when some one is young could identify whether they have to alter their lifestyle accordingly.
In the longer term it may be possible to manipulate the gene so that life spans can be extended.
"This gives us for the first time a better understanding of biological ageing, " said Professor Nilesh Samani at the University of Leicester.
"It is the first step to understanding why people age. Once we have a full understanding we should be able to manipulate it in a manner to influence how someone ages."
Cells in the body are constantly replacing themselves before they die. But each replication is not perfect and the faults that are passed down cause the body to age.
One form of damage is caused to the telomeres the end parts of chromosomes which act like the plastic tips of shoelaces and stop them from fraying.
The problem is that they shorten each time they replicate and eventually are so short that replication becomes impossible and the cell dies forever.
The scientists have discovered that a variant of the TERC gene determines not only how long the telomeres are when someone is born but also how quickly they shorten.
Prof Samani, who reported his findings in the Journal Nature Genetics, discovered the variant by comparing the genetic make-up and biological age of more than 10,000 people.
He said: "In this study what we found was that those individuals carrying a particular genetic variant had shorter telomeres i.e. looked biologically older.
"Given the association of shorter telomeres with age-associated diseases, the finding raises the question whether individuals carrying the variant are at greater risk of developing such diseases."
Professor Tim Spector from King's College London, who co-led this project, said: "What our study suggests is that some people are genetically programmed to age at a faster rate.
"The effect was quite considerable in those with the variant, equivalent to between 3-4 years of 'biological ageing" as measured by telomere length loss.
"Alternatively genetically susceptible people may age even faster when exposed to proven 'bad' environments for telomeres like smoking, obesity or lack of exercise and end up several years biologically older or succumbing to more age-related diseases. "
Does this belong in predictions or gene things? Either way, get your genes to fold with less attrition!
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 07:52 pm: |
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did meier mentioned about telomeres anywhere in his contact reports.
if yes, wich contact report..
Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1685
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 03:35 am: |
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Hi Mahigitam.....
I have not come across it.
But, Logically speaking, they would be familiar with it....I would think.
Plejarans, do not mentioned that much concerning Medical aspects, as I
understand. This is something for ourselves to solve...through our own
thinking patterns and processing; it be theoretically as well as in practise.
Just, like they do not wish to go in depth details of a country's Secret
Experiments, and what ever...related.
Some things are just NOT...a hand-out, alas.....
Edward. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 396
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 08:09 pm: |
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Asking some theoretical question about genetics.
OK so clever scientists have located and isolated the gene responsible for premature aging.
1. How is it possible to modify the responsible gene in a group of individuals ? What are the actual procedures ?
2. If a group of individuals male & female had their genes modified would that mean if pairs mated their children would be born with higher than what is normal now lifespans ?
3. Would that mean for instance that it would be possible for a genetically modified couple to give birth to children who could live hundreds of years or would such lifespans gradually develop with successive generations ?
4. The implications are obvious if such a program got out of control before the issue of overpopulation is solved.
5. Typical of human history isn't there a huge temptation for the so called D/O controlling ones to have themselves genetically modified then breed family clans of long living children but deny the technology to average persons ? Maybe a so called super or master race reminiscent of the nazi plans.
6. What would be the criteria for selecting those suitable for genetic modification, who would control the technology ?
Cheers.
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 510
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 07:59 am: |
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Hi Ramirez
Billy describes a protocol that will be implemented in order to completely eliminate the Sirian modified genes from our gene pool here on earth. It appears in the prophecy section in Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums, p. 325, and involves a seven-year worldwide birth-stop period, during which children will only be allowed to the parents who have already had the genetic repairs and in that way only will people still be entitled to legally generate permissible descendants. Any unauthorised fathering will be met with the strictest measures, since it will be considered from then on as the worst crime punishable by death of the culprits.
The time-frame for this to occur will be after we re-unite in the future with the descendents of the original Sirian overlords, out of which a collaboration will form where the Sirians will assist in the management of this enterprise, so that the circle finally closes, and the human can become a true human being. In the meantime, however, there will continue to be genetic improvements that will lengthen the average lifespan of the earth human whose propagation will mostly rely on choosing genetically good parents when you are born and rightful thinking and living afterwards.
Regards
Bob |
Darren
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Post Number: 176
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 11:51 am: |
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"....the worst crime punishable by death of the culprits"
Hi Bob,
Is it just the parents that will be executed or parents and baby too? |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 511
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 03:20 pm: |
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Hi Darren
That is pretty much all Billy has to say about it in that book anyway. But keep in mind that it is not chiseled in stone, but subject to change since it is a prophecy and not a prediction. So the details are not really important when the punishment may be even less severe or it may not happen that way at all. Often prophecies will emphasize the worst case scenario to serve as motivation for change but I think it nonetheless illustrates the length of the measures that may have to be taken in order to solve a very difficult problem.
Regards
Bob |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1002
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 04:25 pm: |
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Hi all,
There are at least a dozen references to genetics in the contact notes that I haven't had time to translate, some of which are quite major works with detailed and specific technical leads for terrestrial scientists, regarding (from memory) telomere research, etc., and quite specific chromosomal locations of progeria-related matters, but I'll never live long enough to translate all that. Pity.
But bear in mind that the MILAB scum are WAY ahead of us "open science" goyem in genetic research, stemming perhaps from their occult quest to make a golem, but resulting in fake "ET Little Grays" made in USA and fake "ET Reptoids" made in the UK, as described by the Disclosure Project witnesses and mentioned by Billy.
Salome,
Dyson |
Edward
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Post Number: 1704
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 02:46 am: |
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Hi Bob and All....
Yes, I remember reading that also.
Best would be, to avert any type of Totalitarian mentality that may arise,
through the mentioned scenario; and it being, as mentioned a Prophecy, which
can be Altered for the betterment of Man. And, which we should implement.
If we were to handle in such mentioned manner, it would be indeed like the
many motion pictures concerning Totalitarian type of Governments, which when
begetting an unauthorized child, the Death Penality would be executed, on the
parents and the child to be, if in a certain stage of development.
Yes, guys: there are enough such film scenarios out in Motion Picture format,
which is just haunting, to think about; let alone...becoming reality!
Thus, I think we can conjure up a more...Subtile Solution...which is more
humanly accepting, through True Creational Principles/Laws...than to have to
choose of Death, in such Totalitarian fashion.....
Thus: we should try to reflect the TRUE side of our Creational Spiritual
Teachings, and interknit her into this scenario, for the best results.
I think WE CAN....do that/it!
Edward. |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 283
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 06:27 pm: |
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Hello Sitkaa,
"Racial affiliations will largely cease to be important when pretty much everyone can birth an offspring of whatever race they like"
IMO the best way of stopping racial affiliation is to spread the teaching of truth. People need to see the beauty of Creation in everybody and not in everyone's body. Also the knowledge of the huge variety of races out in the Universe will cause people to realise that variations in earth races are nothing compared to the variety available out in the Universe and there is no correlation between spiritual and scientific progress and race.
Genetic engineering should be a tool to gather knowledge in a in the secret of life, disease, heritage, and for reversing our genetic manipulation, also for greater benefit of humankind. Don't you think it is irresponsible if Genetic engineering is promoted for satisfying every whims like changing race or height/weight?
Salome.
Suv
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 234
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 03:58 am: |
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Thankyou Suv for the thoughts. Genetic engineering is a tool that should be used wisely. What one person considers wise, such as wearing clothing of muted natural tones, another person may consider boring, or even stifling. We all have the innate impetus to express ourselves genetically, as long as this comes out in a manner consistent with the goal of beautification and wisdom, I don't really care where it leads our species, for it can be nothing but good.
Racial affiliations are used to justify the existence of many of the not-so-altruistic groups that continuously meddle in people's lives. Removing this facade, in literal terms, showing us all to be just people, would go a long way towards disrupting these short-sighted avenues of power, and to some degree addressing the problems of overpop as well.
Love is always the way
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Brncvngtn
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 05:06 pm: |
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Suv,I agree with you whole-heartedty about the racial thing that goes down on our planet in that if we earth people were aware of the multitude of other races in our universe ,there would be no excuse to distriminate any other race because there are so many different races out there that it would be almost impossible for it(racisism)to exist.It is a control factor just like so many other things on Earth to get people to have hate ,anger and disrespect for a person because of the color of there skin when we should be looking beyond the material body and see that person as another spirit on his or hers own path of evolution.But most Earth people are very materialistic so we don't tend to see another person for who they really are.
I myself am an african american and grew up with white,black hispanic,chinese etc and always tried to get along with everyone.But of course you can't get everybody to like you.And that's ok because as long as you know you are doing the right thing and that person is on there own path,you can say you aren't doing anything that person is doing in life and not pass judgement on them because they are another spirit going through things in life.As we evolve we mature and hate against a person slowly slips away then we will have so much more peace in world .We've come a long way but we have a long way to go.
We are so blessed to have a prophet like Billie Meier to provide the open-minded Earth human with the spiritual teachings to jump start us on how the human is suppose to live and just hope that the message can continue to spread like a snowball rolling down a snow covered hill because this is the most important story on this planet today.
Iv'e had many set backs in my life and was able to bounce back and the turmoil that Billie has went through in his life beacause of the message he is putting out to the world shows us that he is a true Prophet of the times because any of those other so-called ufo contactees would never be able to withstand all the pressure that was put on Billie.He is truely an amazing person and I wish more people would listen to him.
Brian
peace in Wisdom
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 10:19 pm: |
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What can DNA tell us? Place your bets now
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/genomewager.html
"The wager arose from Rupert's debate with Lewis Wolpert, The Nature of Life - a Scientific Debate at the Cambridge Science Festival, March 20, 2009."
Lewis Wolpert has bet Rupert Sheldrake a case of fine port that:
"By 1 May 2029, given the genome of a fertilised egg of an animal or plant, we will be able to predict in at least one case all the details of the organism that develops from it, including any abnormalities." If the outcome isn't obvious, then the Royal Society will be asked to adjudicate. "
Rupert sheldrake :LEWIS WOLPERT's faith in the predictive power of the genome is misplaced. Genes enable organisms to make proteins, but do not contain programs or blueprints, or explain the development of embryos.
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I think rupert sheldrake wins,genes are not the only factors that influences the life of an organism...but also external stimuli..what does billy material say about this..
Until you know yourself, just shut your mouth - mahigitam..
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 249
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:45 am: |
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Mahigitam: fine distinction and good question. Thanks : )
Another way of testing this is to take a number of genetically identical stem cells and place them in different parts of the body in order to subject them to different morphic fields. Oh wait, we are experimenting with this already.
Does that mean the genomewager has been solved?
Love is always the way
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1120
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 05:45 pm: |
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Hi guys.
Billy states that if we could not alter our genetic makeup during the course of our lives - through our thoughts and actions - then we would all be subject to genetic predeterminism.
That's obvious when you think about it, of course.
VIRUSES, of all things, evidently play a role in this.
Here's the Sheldrake link: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.sheldrake.htm
(Go Rupert!)
Cheers!
Dyson |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 170
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 12:00 am: |
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hi dyson,
"if we could not alter our genetic makeup during the course of our lives - through our thoughts and actions - then we would all be subject to genetic predeterminism. "
can i have the source where billy mentions this..
In the above wager, they were talking about the genome of a fertilised egg of an animal or plant...from what i have known, plants/animals do not consciously evolve, so they cant influence their gene patterns..and hence they will follow the course of their genetic blueprints/morphic fields....
how can the distinction be made when plants/animals are unable to influence their genes consciously(they do through external impulses over longer times through natural evolution).. what would happen in 2029 according to both lewis wolpert & rupert sheldrake...
If human embryo is taken, it turns into a complex issue, coz as u told that individual has to consciously strive towards evolution otherwise he would be influenced by genetic predeterminism..
Until you know yourself, just shut your mouth - mahigitam..
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