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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Dyson, et all.

I've learnt English fairly well in 10 years.
I know for a fact that English lacks many of the rich colorful expressions of for example, my mother tongue, Spanish.

Nothing more is left for me, than to learn the German, which I have already started.

I will 'sprechen' to you fluently in .. 5 to 8 years.. LOL
Salome
Carlos
--
Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1100
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yo Carlos!

Not unlike learning to play musical instruments, once you've learnt more than one language, each new one is easier! :-)

Cheers!
Dyson
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dyson,
"Sheila, you wrote, "I believe Kay Griggs. Her faith made me doubt somewhat ...
But belief and faith are close synonyms."
I meant her religious faith made me doubt somewhat. If I meet a person and within the first 5 minutes they tell me that they are a christian or born again, my red flags always go up. They are the ones most likely to lie to me or somehow forget about reporting some of their income. I think the IRS (or in my country the CRA) should be auditing people who are really religious, lol. Just my thoughts but they seem to hold true year after year. I've slowly gotten rid of them by being "too busy".
And yes, I type like I talk, is that a bad thing? After I'm done at the end of april I will start on the german language (since my great grandparents used to speak it and I find just by comparing it to english, you can make out a lot of what it means). For the longest time I never told anyone of my german ancestry because the people would always associate german with hitler. Just call me little hitler, lol.
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Indi
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Post Number: 431
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Back to 'Third World War' discussion please

Robyn
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Marbar
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For many years, World War III have always been a prophecy. In Contact Report 251, Ptaah said that if World War III occurs, it wil devastate most of the northern hemisphere. Plus, he also said that there will be more advance technology and people will not learn froom their mistakes and a World War IV will occur. I'm now asking if World War III never occurs, does that mean there will be no threat of another world war?
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1110
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sheila - meet me over at "Learning German" - DD
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Edward
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Post Number: 1727
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar....


YES: there will ALWAYS...be the Possibility that there will be a World War.

As long as there is a Dominating country which, with very high advanced
technology (USA & Allies, etc) there WILL be such Threat!

As the Prophecies still state, and STAND: that, all countries US as well as
Israel occupies...will play part in this theater of Madness!

As long, as they do not withdraw from occupied territories, resistance will
escalate, and which may trigger the mentioned World War; which in turn,
prompts many other countries to partake (China & Russia, etc.) in the war, as
the whole world will be at war, as defined as a: World War.

Thus, the World War Three scenario still looms above our heads like The Sword
Of Damocles.

But still: it is a Prophecy(Alterable)...and NOT a Prediction(Non Alterable);
in simple definition!


Edward.
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Hunter
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Post Number: 355
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marbar,
I think even if we stop the "official" prophecy in regards to World War 3, if we don't then address overpopulation, the threat of another "world fire" as Billy says, will continue to loom over us.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Thomas
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Post Number: 954
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 03:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to BEAM WW3 has already started in a sense.=A0 However, it was st= ated that the Third World Fire has been averted.=A0 There is a big differen= ce between the two.
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1193
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear all,

I DO wonder if Mr. Ilyumzhinov has read the Disclosure Project witness testimonies from the Unacknowledged Special Access Project's (USAP) people who are heroically trying to swear under oath to US Congress in open hearings (under penalty of perjury) that THEY are the ones responsible for all these "alien abductions".

Very little in the way of ridicule factor here.

Are the D.O. cranking up for their belated fake "alien invasion" with their fake "alien" anti-gravity craft and their fake "reptoid" (U.K.) & "little gray" (U.S.A.) cloned entities Billy told us about?

http://www.theyfly.com/gaia/greer_warning_of_hoax.htm


BBC News, Moscow

Russian president asked to investigate alien claims

Richard Galpin

A Russian MP has asked President Dmitry Medvedev to investigate claims by a regional president that he has met aliens on board a spaceship.

Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, the leader of the southern region of Kalmykia, made his claim in a television interview.

MP Andre Lebedev is not just asking whether Mr Ilyumzhinov is fit to govern.

He is also concerned that, if he was abducted, he may have revealed details about his job and state secrets.

The MP has written a letter to Mr Medvedev raising a list of his concerns.

In his letter he says that - assuming the whole thing was not just a bad joke - it was an historic event and should have been reported to the Kremlin.

He also asks if there are official guidelines for what government officials should do if contacted by aliens, especially if those officials have access to state secrets.

Mr Ilyumzhinov said in an interview on primetime television that he had been taken on board an alien spaceship which had come to planet Earth to take samples - and claims to have several witnesses.

He has been president of Kalmykia, a small Buddhist region of Russia which lies on the shores of the Caspian Sea, for 17 years.

The millionaire former businessman has a reputation as an eccentric character.

As president of the World Chess Federation, he has spent tens of millions of dollars turning the impoverished republic into a mecca for chess players - building an entire village to host international tournaments.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8662822.stm
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Danger of third world war is still on IMO.

Just last month Medvedev warned that Israeli attack on Iran might lead to nuclear conflict. China is with Russia on this issue in a broad manner. Obama is trying to avert a catastrophe, but it's not only Obama that control U.S. America.

As dollar is under more and more pressure, U.S. is more and more desperate to control oil rich nations. It simply cannot allow a Middle Eastern country to acquire nukes and thus the ability to rally around other neighbouring oil rich nations to come under it's umbrella of protection and abandon dollar as the reserve currency for trading crude oil. Russia is feeling the heat as its already non-existant influence in the region is approaching zero and it's terrified that in future it would have to lick U.S. bottom to get access to mid-east oilfields and strategic reach into Arabian sea. China does not want that, too - as this scenario is a damper to its aspiration to assume World power role and for its bulging energy needs. At the same time, China continues to hold the largest reserve of U.S. dollars which will be worth nothing if dollar power gets busted. So it’s a tricky game for China which is already voicing its opinion for a new world reserve currency.

When there is a mafia war, the local thugs do not keep quiet or are made to get involved by intrigues of the mafias. Pakistan would want to get rid of the U.S. presence from its soil and also would be eager to participate in any campaign against India which China may undertake. This is quite possible as China has border dispute with India and Realpolitik tells that when there is a world war around and your economy is doomed because of war efforts, do not let your future competitor rise in silence. When these two overpopulated countries go to war, tens of millions will die which both the nations will pooh-pooh. Being overpopulated, there is no value of human lives in these two countries.

NATO's posture toward advancing Sino-Russian army will be interesting as to my understanding the small European nations individually pertaining in any war effort will just be blown away by combined Sino-Russian might. This will be nothing like Afghanistan where it can airlift a few thousand soldiers to assist U.S. and do its duty. U.S. may initially think that being separated by Atlantic Ocean and strong military deterrence would keep them immune from the World War they have started and perform its NATO duty by sendings few warships and few thousands of troops into the European theatre. But the prospect of losing super-power status combined with depreciating dollar and NATO’s humiliation plus U.S. interest in middle easy will pull them into the war. Only because U.S. is a super-power in all sense that it is able to survive as a nation with 12 trillion plus dollars of national debt. If U.S. feels that they would come into the war with their secret "surprise" weapons, they would be very wrong. There are secret programs going on in other nations too, plus the most advanced of U.S. conventional weapon are probably already being studied and copied by virtue of cyber-spying.

Not all doom and gloom though, the prophecy of a Muslim takeover of France has been averted; there were reports of many U.S. Generals wanting to resign if U.S. attacks Iran; recent nuclear treaty spearheaded by Obama; etc.

Agreed, as long as there is overpopulation, there will be competition for resource. If not for oil, a future war for a widely underestimated item - water will threaten.
Salome.
Suv
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Mattopenminds
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Suv,
Where did learn that the Muslim takeover of France has been averted? Be interesting to see the contact report for this.
Thanks
Matt
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 355
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Matt,

The contact report does not tell that Muslim takeover of France have been averted.

I was referring to the events that occurred in 2005/2006 (Refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_civil_unrest_in_France#Context)
Salome.
Suv
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Suv, a very accurate report on the currents events happening in the world. Good job!
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1785
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Suv and All...


Would agree with Suv.

Many Changes have been made, it the Direction of Averting certain Prophecy
scenarios. Which will only....benefit MAN and all other living creatures, for
the better.

As long, as the world leaderships, utilize their - Common Sense(/Gezonde
Verstand.nl) - and not throw fuel on the fire, the Third World War can be
Averted(/postponed).

Thus, it does NOT only lay in the hands of the Muslims: but OUR OWN Western
Judeo/Catholic/Christian Government leaderships...as well!! [As Adam, also
mentioned in his previous posting...of American Warmongering, as well as her
Allies!!]

It is still ALL...within the framework of Consequences! CAUSE and EFFECT!


Edward.
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Yoid
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2010 - 04:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If WW3 happens Europe will be destroyed, as it happened in WW2.The most nuisance is that if it happens in 2010 November or maybe some time later I cant finish reading Billys teachings, so if I will reincarnate again in Europe(after killed by something)(Arab nations will conquer Europe and live mostly here later? - after nuclear and chemical weapons were dropped to Europe.It is not a good perspective to the future.
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Darren
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Post Number: 245
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2010 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yoid, if you can move somewhere to live in the Southern Hemisphere, then you can probably avoid being destroyed/killed yourself if WW3 happens. Two thirds of world's population live in Northern Hemisphere, so it only makes sense where that figure (2/3rds world population being killed) will come from when/if WW3 happens. Also thats where all the world's leading industrialized and first world nations are situated too.
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Way to go Suv!

Nice work on your May 5th post. I only read it today but was impressed by the detail and accuracy of your opinions on how politics go. I couldn't have at all said it better! Good work! By the way, I share your opinion - If overpopulation continues we may still experience a WWIII!!!
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Earthling
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Post Number: 440
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To those who have patted Suv on the back for her 'accuracy'; the fact is the US$ has NOT been under pressure. It has been on a steady climb for the last 5 months and is actually slightly stronger than it was 3 years ago before the 2008 financial crisis.

All you who seem to be oddly rooting for WW3 and speculating thereof, so the prophecies would be made into reality according to a script or scriptures, and you can plan this life accordingly or the next, like it would be so easy if such an evil event were to occur; you must think for yourselves. Billy nor the Plejaren can do this for you, nor any god, tin god, servants of gods or tin gods. I don't see any difference between you and the 'end of the worlders' according to their prophecies.

Trying to change facts to fit the prophecies is not what the truth is about.
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 370
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bruce,

Euro vs dollar last 10 year.
falling dollar against Euro

GBP vs dollar last 5 years
falling dollar against GBP

Last 5 month of rising dollar or for that matter any international currency would not impact their foreign policy. You are taking a baseline of pre-meltdown value, which itself was low.

And who is rooting for 3rd world war and expect Billy, Plejaren or God to help please? I read the follow up posts, but it is not evident through any of them. Some of the posts do reveal an overt concern about the prophecy and a plan around that, but that is all I could glean. There was an analysis and there were some comments. That's it.
Salome.
Suv
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 370
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bruce,

Here's more...

Japanese yen vs US dollar
Japanese yen vs US dollar

Chinese yuan vs US dollar
Chinese yuan vs US dollar

Except the British Pound, the U.S. dollar has lost between 7-35% against all major international currencies in the last 10-15 years.

These are facts and not made up. Search the internet, go to the library, it is everywhere. I am not a scaremongerer.

There is a negative correlation between U.S. dollar and oil price. So if there is a negative correlation between U.S. dollar value and oil price, where is the catch? Why is there U.S. interest in controling oil price and maintain a moderately high stable value? Read along.

Scenario 1:
Oil price goes down, other countries pump less U.S. dollars for buying the same amount of oil, availability of U.S. dollars decreases in world currency market, value of U.S. dollar increases.

Scenario 2:
Oil price goes too low, other countries pump less U.S. dollars for buying the same amount of oil, but more than that - pumps excess U.S. dollar in their kitty to boost its currency and/or to buy gold, availability of U.S. dollars increases in world currency market, American can import less from other parts of the world for more, value of U.S. dollar decreases.

Scenario 3:
Oil price goes up, other countries pump more U.S. dollars for buying the same amount of oil, availability of U.S. dollars increase in world currency market, value of U.S. dollar decline.

Scenario 4:
Oil price goes too high, other countries have pumped too much U.S. dollar already to buy oil. Now U.S. dollar is at all time low. Then, in turn, countries develop a shortfall of U.S. dollars. They buy U.S. dollars again by trading gold and value of U.S. dollar again rises to stable value. This is the ideal scenario for U.S. America balancing its corporate interests and its foreign policy.

Scenario 5:
A new alternative currency is used for oil trading or an alternative fuel is discovered with no American control. All countries dump U.S. dollar, availability of U.S. dollar increases, value decreases in currency market. Countries refuses to accept U.S. dollar payment as debt adjustment, U.S. buys more foreign currency in exchange of its dollar, dollar looses reserve currency status. Imagine you are earning same salary of say, 14.6 trillion$ per year. Suddenly U.S. dollar is worth same as Japanese yen (resulting value of about 146 billion$). How would that impact your international travel, import budget, overseas military deployment, etc.


So you can see that there is U.S. American interest in finding more and more oil wells and control their output and keep a steady oil price in the world market.

Do point out which is not fact.
Salome.
Suv
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Earthling,

It is very hard to find a person with Suv's understanding of politics and how they work. You should appreciate that before you make any judgements and analyze his post very carefully. You mightt learn something. Nobody wants WWIII to happen but we are just saying it will happer IF overpopulation keeps up. Read carefully.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 441
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Suv, the US$ is roughly the same value it was in 1988. Since then, it has been higher and its been lower, as all printed paper currencies fluctuate relative to one another, as you know.

From 1997 to 2002, the US$ got very strong relative to other pieces of colored printed paper, but by 2004 it was back in the range it had spent most of its lifetime, relative to other printed pieces of colored paper with pictures on it.

Which isn't to say it won't come under renewed pressure in the not too distant future, considering the mountains of debt we have makes Greece look like a maxed out credit card.

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