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Author Message Sitkaa Member Post Number: 281 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 08:34 am:        There is plenty of hay for this purpose. All we have to do is use it. Love is always the way Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 503 Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 09:42 pm:        billy speaks much of possible catastrophies to hit the usa, but aside from mention in the henock prophecies, there is nothing really mentioned (to my awareness) about canada, and impending or possible disasters to come (possibly). in british columbia, we tend tohave forest fires in the summer, as far as dangers go, and heavy rain in the autumn/early winter. does anybody have additional information that specifies canada's enviromental state, in regards to natural disasters? thanks Sitkaa Member Post Number: 282 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 05:46 am:        It would appear that the full potential impacts of the 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil are not yet being publicly considered. Consider this article which came across my desk: Scientists accuse Obama over oil spill The New York Times 8:49 AM EST May 20, 2010 © TODAY Tensions between the Obama administration and the scientific community over the gulf oil spill are escalating, with prominent oceanographers accusing the government of failing to conduct an adequate scientific analysis of the damage and of allowing BP to obscure the spill's true scope. The scientists assert that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and other agencies have been slow to investigate the magnitude of the spill and the damage it is causing in the deep ocean. They are especially concerned about getting a better handle on problems that may be occurring from large plumes of oil droplets that appear to be spreading beneath the ocean surface. The scientists point out that in the month since the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, the government has failed to make public a single test result on water from the deep ocean. And the scientists say the administration has been too reluctant to demand an accurate analysis of how many gallons of oil are flowing into the sea from the gushing oil well. "It seems baffling that we don't know how much oil is being spilled," Sylvia Earle, a famed oceanographer, said Wednesday on Capitol Hill. "It seems baffling that we don't know where the oil is in the water column." 'Early stages' The administration acknowledges that its scientific resources are stretched by the disaster, but contends that it is moving to get better information, including a more complete picture of the underwater plumes. "We're in the early stages of doing that, and we do not have a comprehensive understanding as of yet of where that oil is," Jane Lubchenco, the NOAA administrator, told Congress on Wednesday. "But we are devoting all possible resources to understanding where the oil is and what its impact might be." For the rest of the article, see: http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1&aid=37248587 Love is always the way Gib_niner Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 04:51 pm:        "it would appear that the full potential impacts of the 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil are not yet being publicly considered. " also there is this following article pertaining to levels of gas - & not being given hardly any mention, it would seem, in MSM (not sure how accurate - but worth a look) http://rense.com/general90/gasleak.htm would be interesting to hear what Ptaah has to say on all this..esp. in relation to the gas. (ie levels of gas being released and its damaging effects) Giorraíonn beirt bóthar, Sean. Justsayno Member Post Number: 260 Registered: 10-2009 Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 08:54 pm:        Hi Sean, according to this nasa photo, the methane or natural gas is being burnt off. Or it was on May 17 anyway. Funny that's not mentioned in the MSM. Unfortunately that's probably the best way to get rid of it. http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA13150 I hate to say it, but is this going to be Obama's Katrina? What does disturb me is the lack of response. Why isn't the military going in to help? Hi Sitkaa, straw would be better than hay, as it's only used as bedding (as opposed to feed). "How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line. Sitkaa Member Post Number: 287 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 10:37 pm:        Reporters from the News channel 'CBS' have been publicly threatened with arrest by the U.S. Coast Guard, itself acting under orders from BP, for reporting on the oil spill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2VuaGXOlJ0 Love is always the way J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1275 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 11:17 am:        ***** Engineers calculated estimates place the Gulf Oil Blow-out to likely kill all life in the Earths Oceans. Oil at 70,000 PSI, flowing at greater than 200,000-gallons per day is even now flowing around the Keys south of Florida into the Bahamas and up the Eastern Seaboard. Next areas to 'receive' this oil will be the coasts of New England, NewFoundland, Greenland, Iceland, the North Seas, and England. After England, all the coasts of Europe = France, Spain, Africa, down around the Cape, and on up into the Indian Ocean. Then across Indonesia, Australia, Philippines, Japan, Alaska, and down the West Coast of the Americas, Mexico, and South American Countries. Remember: the flow remains at high rates all the while, 'backfilling and spreading' all the areas behind and along the current path - Cuba, the Caribbean Islands, and the whole of the Caribbean Sea, the coasts of Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico destroying all the fishing (and crabs, oysters, lobsters) areas as it goes. The entire Production Rig collapsed on top of the wellhead, and will take a few years to clear away before they can get at it to seal (against 70,000 pounds of pressure). The entire Global Fishing industry is at danger of being lost, not to mention the plankton, seaweed, and algae which are at the base of the food-chain and/ or providing a large percentage of oxygen from photosynthesis. Here, at the new Project Avalon, some heavy opinions and research weigh-in: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1859-Mother-of-all-gushers... Can we now live in Peace ***** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod Mgilbo1 Member Post Number: 119 Registered: 09-2002 Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 12:25 pm:        The phosphates from the oil are the big problem. Get too close to that pipeline and you could be blown sky high. I was talking to a world known geologist yesterday, who is a friend of my fathers, and he said they probably never imagined something like this could happen. Sad that closed minded poeple are running things. Mark Gilbo Tameralc New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2010 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 08:33 am:        Has anyone mentioned the possibility of terrorism as a cause of the oil spill? J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1276 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:23 pm:        *** Hello Tameralc, First let me give you Welcome to the Forum. ___________________________________________ There has been a report I've seen that implies that the North Koreans were involved. There is a story linked in this report that the North Koreans torpedoed a South Korean Cruiser. This part is substantiated by others. The report implies that the same type of torpedo attack was used against the BP Oil production rig to bring it down. This is highly suspect, and may be some 'fantasy' to sensationalize the reporting, and may in fact be disinformation. The report as published by Sorcha Faal at: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm should be considered speculative at best since there is no corroborating evidence. ____________________________________________ Reports from surviving witnesses on the rig (escaped by the emergency boats) told of a large slug of seawater came up the pipe, followed by a high-pressure blast of Methane gas which ignited and blew-up, destroying the rig. So for such high-pressure to even reach the rig, the drill-pipe and casing had to be intact, otherwise the Methane would have blown out any rupture in the pipe. Gas and Liquid Hydrocarbons are usually in the same pockets together under high pressures. As the Gases are depressurized, they will expand in volume as much as 1000-times. So the the Methane explosion is the most likely cause. ____________________________________________ Mark, as you say [Sad that closed minded poeple are running things.] is right-on. It seems like the master-minds at BP are out of touch with reality. BP should cease to exist as a corporate entity following this debacle. Now they are saying that it could be until August before the side-drilling could reach below the well-head to plug the well. Meanwhile, the Oceans of the Earth are being murdered. Nero plays on while Rome burns. *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod Justsayno Member Post Number: 266 Registered: 10-2009 Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 08:29 am:        Hi Rod, Sorcha Faal is clearly misinformation. His purpose is to incite hatred against North Korea. I bet you didn't know that during the "Event Horizon", there were little NATO exercises being pursued. I'm not sure if this made your media but it did make mine, but for other reasons, as you will see. http://communities.canada.com/OTTAWACITIZEN/blogs/defencewatch/archive/2010/04/20/nato-forward-air-controller-exercise-slated-for-goose-bay-to-be-moved-down-to-u-s.aspx Let's not forget when that secret spy plane was launched by NASA, I believe it was on April 19, 2010. Environment and Weather I came across an interesting article about using lasers to induce weather: http://brightcove.newscientist.com/services/player/bcpid2227271001?bclid=0&bctid=82278077001 And another for military use: http://brightcove.newscientist.com/services/player/bcpid2227271001?bclid=0&bctid=14218748001 Makes me wonder if that meteor that Michael and Edward talked about wasn't some weather technology they were trying out. You may want to check out your environmental/weather data base of their radar during the time that meteor was spotted in southern Wisconsin. "How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line. Sitkaa Member Post Number: 290 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 11:52 am:        Nero fiddles while Rome burns. Is Nero us? Love is always the way : ) Sitkaa Member Post Number: 291 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 09:28 pm:        This whole oil spill thing is quite the natural disaster. You know, the oil is spewing from a particularly large and deep well of oil. If not capped, the well will continue to spew oil at its increasingly prodigious rate. By the time the well runs out, all the worlds oceans will be ruined, coated in a thick mass of oil. We must cap that well. This should definitely be part of the Mission. Living on a ruined hulk of a planet is just not anyone's idea of fun. Any suggestions? Anybody have some real insight into this? Love is always the way : ) J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1277 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 10:56 pm:        Hi Sheila, Yes, you are right about Sorcha Faal being a disinformation specialist. As I wrote in my post 1276: "This is highly suspect, and may be some 'fantasy' to sensationalize the reporting, and may in fact be disinformation." Somehow Sorcha has got me on his mailing list, and after seeing so many of his BS reports, there is a lot of outright BS mixed with a very little truth. Since Tameralc had asked for "any reports" Just tossed that in for consideration along with the disclaimer. Thank you for the links you provided. Sitkaa, "Nero Fiddling" is all the so-called leaders pointing fingers at each other while the Oceans are in great danger and they do nothing. Salome ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod Smukhuti Member Post Number: 377 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 01:10 am:        Hi Sitkaa, This is the most underestimated catastrophe of this millenia so far and I fear accelerated long term damage to already polluted earth. I am amazed by the lack of any globally co-ordinated action to stop the spill and global action to find the real cause and take the guilty to book. Somewhere I read that BP is given given thousands of suggestion to contain the leak. Is not any one suggestion worthwhile/cost-effective? Salome. Suv Ramirez Member Post Number: 476 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 05:47 am:        Hi Smukhuti, The real cause of oil rig disaster ..... From what i understand various contractors performed their obligations as required regarding construction of the rig and various safety devices. What occurred is this: At the wellhead should be a safety capping device like a huge valve to regulate and contain the flow of oil. This was installed and functioned correctly, however this device is embedded in a base of concrete and there the problem lies. The concrete had not fully set and hardened due to BP overriding normal safety considerations by starting deep drilling too early ..... greed. Apparently when oil was reached it gushed up at higher than expected pressures though the safety cap held, however the weakest point then became the still not properly set concrete base which developed cracks & gave way allowing oil to bypass the safety cap. What happened next is conjecture but speculation exists that BP itself caused the rig to sink in order to obscure and bury evidence of negligence. Roll back time, send down a telemeter disc, record the events ..... we will eventually know the real story Cheers. Tameralc New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2010 Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 10:48 am:        Thanks, Rod, for answering my post. I have been a reader of the forum for several years and just deleted my old account and started this one. But even then I hardly posted at all. But as to your article you mentioned it clearly might be disinformation as I at first thought since I do not remember anywhere in the Prophecies N Or S Korea being mentioned, but when I looked again I read on page 312 of And Still They Fly... "Finally, many Asian, African and European states will rise up against the American hegemony, once they recognize that the USA is only taking advantage of them for purposes of war, conquest and exploitation." Yet even as remote as the possibility is regarding this didn't Clinton just request sanctions against N Korea? And yet the more likely scenario is as others have mentioned just plain carelessness and greed such as with the Exxon Valdez, and by the way, there is another spill happening now up on the North Slope in Alaska... Scott Moderator Post Number: 1991 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 04:12 pm:        Volcanic eruptions in Guatemala, Ecuador http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100528/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_guatemala_volcano Earthling Member Post Number: 445 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 07:20 am:        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/28/phillipe-cousteau-jr-to-b_n_594308.html Phillippe Cousteau To Bill Maher: Even Before Oil Spill, The Oceans Couldn't Take Any More (VIDEO) Sitkaa Member Post Number: 292 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 05:25 pm:        The Gulf of Mexico disaster is not a single point source oil gusher. Apparently there are at least three point sources, separated by miles. The worst sources have not been shown to the general public. It may have been sabotage. As one completely unsubstantiated rumor has it, a Chinese submarine was detected in the vicinity. The prez did say he was ordering special forces units to the other oil wells in the Gulf to conduct inspections. It could just be a precaution, but who knows. I am catching that familiar feeling of identifying with a mushroom. Maybe this is the human condition, to look for wights under every stone. Unfortunately, all too often we find them there, hiding from the sunlight, croaking denials of their own influence. This is a disaster that will slowly impact the Earth's environment deeply, and yet we know so very, very little. Love is always the way : ) Sitkaa Member Post Number: 294 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 10:56 am:        Perhaps we can quickly build a DNA database of pretty much every species of creature we can get our hands on. Then we can more easily rebuild the oceanic environment sometime in the future, once we get a clue. Who would be the best recipient of this suggestion? Is there someone in academia that you know? Someone in government perhaps? Love is always the way : ) Techieatwork Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 08-2008 Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 10:45 pm:        Hi Sitka: Maybe the guys who copied DNA from one bacteria to the other? Although I am not sure how altruistic they may be. http://www.jcvi.org/cms/press/press-releases/ Salome Carlos -- Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form. Quetzal: Das will ich tun. Marbar Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 12-2009 Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 11:03 am:        In more than one contact report, Billy and the Plejarens discussed how floods are devastating. A good example is this: http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Flooding-opens-up-sinkholes-Guatemala-City/ss/events/wl/053110guatemalahole/im:/100530/ids_photos_wl/r2013164472.jpg/ The link is about how tropical storm Agatha created a sinkhole in a street intersection in Guatemala City, Guatemala.

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