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    Hector Member Post Number: 593 Registered: 04-2006 |
Billy said that it would be very good that Mr Obama has the chance to serve another 2nd term, another 4 years because he has the personal possibility of preventing www3. Well the BP spill accident can be the great opportunity for the republican party and the enemies of Obama to prevent him of being reelected. Those people will do their best in order to discredit Obama and blame him for something he isn't directly responsible. | ||
Ymmit1988 New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2009 |
According to Lindsey Williams this whole thing was very dangerous from the outset, they were drilling to massive depths from massive depths underwater with a rig controlled by gprs. The Russians have apparently drilled to these depths but only on land where the potential for risk is far lower. According to engineers on the rig they had been told by higher escalations in BP to keep drilling because of time constraints despite the fact they didn't feel the well was adequately safe. I'd say its time to start stocking up on your food supplies... | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1380 Registered: 02-2000 |
What amazes me is how the US Gov't never forced the oil companies to have a back up plan if this were to happen in the future. It sure shows you who runs things in this country. My Website | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 305 Registered: 10-2004 |
It is in no one's best interests to let this well flow. It doesn't matter which element of our society, corporate or civil, is physically working on the problem, only that the best that can be done is being done as efficiently and innovatively as possible. What is disturbing, though, is the constant denial of people's access to the affected area or even to information about the areas, a trend which is growing rather deliberately it seems. Isn't it obvious that this oil spill is an event which can affect everyone on the planet personally with the ramifications of its contributions to our surface environment? I am almost certain we will see this damned leak fixed ASAP. Nobody wants the hellish nightmare this hole is bringing. Has anybody started to build a genetic library of the life in Gulf yet? Love is always the way | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1060 Registered: 03-2004 |
> Actually Norm it seems like no one is running things unfortunately... | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 120 Registered: 01-2009 |
Sometimes ignorance is bliss, although a curse because if your really "did know" the whole truth chaos might if not would ensue! Mostly posted under plausible denial! First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns | ||
Ymmit1988 Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2009 |
This whole thing is incredibly dodgy, BP was persisting with dangerous practices apparently plugging the whole with sea water rather than mud/clay despite the engineers advice. At the moment the whole cleanup operation is being overseen and controlled by BP who are preventing local governments from effectively cleaning up the place. There are examples of BP preventing boons being put out before the oil hit simply to count and re count how much they had. The press are being bullied out of reporting or taking photographs of anywhere other than the staged managed photo opportunities and Haliburton purchased a company 8 days before the accident that is now helping with the clean up operation...maybe I'm just paranoid. | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 306 Registered: 10-2004 |
I gotta wonder what is goin in the minds of most earthlings. Even in the midst of the worst crisis the ecosystem from which we evolved has ever known, our species talks of wars and retaliations. What is the point of saving the world if we are just gonna blow it up? Love is always the way | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1061 Registered: 03-2004 |
> My post above is not to imply that it is Obama that is lacking in action > however. It is the responsibility of those who directly caused the leak to > fix it and to make good on the damage repairs. | ||
Johnboy Member Post Number: 52 Registered: 07-2008 |
While we are focusing on the Gulf oil volcano....a little old lady has decided that polluting the Pacific Ocean with discarded water bottles is wrong, too. I agree. Her solution for less pollution is worth a look. It is all a matter of common sense decisions. YOU GO GIRL! http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/us/23water.html | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 308 Registered: 10-2004 |
Even if we do not stop the well, we can contain it within a reasonable area. The area would have to shaped to withstand the oceanic currents. As the oil expelled into the contained area, water could be pumped out. The containment would have to be much larger than the amount of oil being leaked out, perhaps a ten thousand to one ratio, with purified water being pumped out of the top to maintain an equalized relatively static pressure. A floating cap could then be constructed, with the excesses gases captured as with a typical oil producing well. The scale of this design would be able to grow as the oil leak does. Love is always the way | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 309 Registered: 10-2004 |
Were the cap anchored at say 600 feet beneath the surface, storm waves would be much less of an issue. Additionally, if a potentially catastrophic tsunami is truly a concern, then anchored wave dissipating balls could be placed both within and around the containment bag, as well as other measures mitigate the destruction. (For example, we have lots of waveless waterbeds, don't we?) Love is always the way | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1816 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Norm..... As what I heard this week: There WAS a back up plan, and this back up was a mechanism which were to be implemented on the oil leak when/if it occurred but...due to lack of responsibility...it was not checked thoroughly as it should have in her routine check...and as Consequence...is, what we now see and behold: the MESS! The Stopper(; if I may call it that...), was Defect!! Was even mentioned: ANY delay would cost many many a-MILLIONS! Now it is costing them...MORE...than they would ever dream of!! So, everybody is blaming each other, now. BP had confidence in the riggers and engineers, etc...and so it seems they did not implement their work properly and correctly as they should have. If the routine check was implemented as usual and the Defect (Stopper) repaired...than...this whole Ocean Pollution Effect/Scandal...would have NOT occurred! Edward. | ||
Whitelotus Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2010 |
What is the actual dimension of the problem now like affecting ocean life and chemical pollution in the chain of sea food supplies contaminated with lead and toxic chemicals? Human greed and stupidity cause this? | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 10-2004 |
The dimension of the problem is potentially large. The well of oil apparently has the volume of a large mountain or small mountain range, with significant inflows from deeper within the earth. Some fraction of this oil will be expelled to the surface. That oil has to be stored somewhere. Storing it over the expelling chamber may not be the safest thing to do, though. The Gulf of Mexico has been a huge oil and methane seep since the asteroid created it. In the long run, capturing the methane that has melted in the heated water around the expelled oil, and preventing further melting of the methane by containing the expelled oil could prove to be just as important as keeping the marine ecosystem on an even keel. Such a solution would require a significant portion of our economy devoted to fixing the consequences of this damn leak. Love is always the way | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1817 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Whitelotus.... The damage is indeed of immense proportions, yes. And: Human greed and stupidity cause this? You hit the nail on that one. They did not expect anything could go wrong, but....it DID go wrong. So, them not wanting to repair the Stopper, due to the costs and to stop the project for some time would cost them Millions. If they just conducted themselves according to the(ir) Book...all would have went well. But, alas...they neglected this(/their own) procedure...and just took the risk it could not happen, a/the Environment disaster as we know it, now. Thus, in stead of it costing them (some) Millions...it is costing them BILLIONS! And of course: the Environment Pollution damages....of great proportions, and all lifeforms, related. "Expect the unexpected"...would be a very wise saying for them take heed to. We can now see with our own eyes...what can occur when they Neglect their OWN Rules; with all the Consequences anticipated. Edward. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 294 Registered: 07-2009 |
Here's a new twist: http://shtf411.com/bp-illusion-of-a-false-spill-t7065.html | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 399 Registered: 06-2009 |
What a laughable twist! Salome. Suv | ||
Mike_hooten Member Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi Everybody, Hope all is well with all of you. In a contact note someplace Mr. Meier made the out-of-context statement "criminal neglect of failing to watch the Earth from space", with no further clarification. Ever since i read that i was always wondering what we needed to look at on the Earth so badly. It has now become apparent what one thing could be....oil spills... I wonder how many oil spills were shut off before they were noticed, and could have been noticed from Space before they were shut off...so that an outside inquiry, etc could have been made..... Best wishes to all. Mike Hoot | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 123 Registered: 08-2008 |
hi all. long time no read. Please take all these comments as my own, I haven't been cross-checking my ideas with that of the public manipulated media, or Billy's wise words, so it's just a thinking out loud exercise, so I may be wrong in a few or all of the ideas expressed here. I'm open to intelligent discussion of these ideas, if they are worth the time. Still good food for thought. If this theory holds any water (to me it does, at present) it shows that earth has grown very slowly over a very very long time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VykK0ReVNc0 I am inclined to think that earth's internal atomic (mini black hole) processes, create the exudation of magma like liquid rock, plus all other sort of bio-mass and water production would be nearly at the end just a result of all that primary activity. Thus, the current pouring of the bio-mass into the oceans, is a huge step back at the least. Earth has been there in her natural growth.. I'm not referring to the tremendous loss in life and species... that is just too sad and long of a topic in itself. It's really a shame that we stupid humanoids have caused this huge reversal in earth's natural evolution. I think that overall the total mass of Earth doesn't change, but it's center of gravity is affected by displacement of it's internal heavier masses. The density of the biomass is heavier than the density of the water that is now starting to occupy it's previous place... so on that side of the globe, there is now a large dis-balance. Obviously we have been doing that since we started to exploit earth's oil repositories. So rotation must be changed, even slightly. I think this could affect the length of the day(s), or at least the planet's known wobble be affected, making seasons perhaps last longer, even slightly. I don't think Earth as such would crack, as it's not a solid object, but instead, it's hot-liquid inside. I think that an atomic explosion near the spill area would just blow that large repository of oil, and if it's connected to other larger repositories, it would just mean a total destruction of our home-planet. I am not afraid to die, but if some stupid brain in that BP or in the US government decides to go that way, I think that would mean good night for all of us, for now, in this lovely Earth. Until our spirit forms find another home planet to incarnate and continue their evolution. I hope those corporations or the CIA actually spy on us, so Billy's wise words, prophesies are known to them before they decide to blow all of us up. Salome Carlos -- Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form. Quetzal: Das will ich tun. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 401 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hello Mike, Totally agree with you. And watching earth from space would preferably be left to a neutral, multinational organization, not one nation watching over another nations military assets only as is the case now. Salome. Suv | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 277 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Carlos I totally agree with you. Nice to see you back.  "How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 299 Registered: 07-2009 |
Here's a passionate resident of the Gulf telling about her experiences with the spill, BP, etc.: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/877.html |
