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Edward
Member
Post Number: 780
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 12:29 pm: | 
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Hi Scott and All.....
Scott, excellent images of the Chemtrail Sprayers! It does seems as if the 2
square tanks/containers would be filled with the needed Chemicals that is
sprayed(?). And the below image also, does show a similar craft. And I guess,
this could be seen as 'Proof', perhaps? The image with the trail is quite clear
enough to practically 'Confirm' this, One would think?
I do have to say, that yesterday I did see the common passenger airplanes
pass over above me and it is very true that they only leave a very sort trail
which than slowly dissolves. Their trails do not stay in place and nor do they
expand, and so forth...as the ones in the 2 images I took, and posted! Thus, it
seems that even OUR Country is ALSO.....being Sprayed!!!?
Just a clarification concerning the Storm documentary I mentioned; about the
Contrails and Weather Manipulation: it's correct title is 'Superstorm', and it
is not just a documentary, but a dramatized and based on true facts mini
series; I come to know now. Thus, not a 3 epo documentary, as I thought it to
be. What gave me the impression that it was, was the old real black and white
American footage, which was processed in the series, and how it was filmed.
But, it is still worth watching, knowing that it is based on true facts of the
past, and can still be utilized today, as we can notice CLEARLY....from the
images Scott posted!
Edward. |
Adam
Member
Post Number: 40
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:38 pm: |
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Hi Everyone,
Good point Scott. I think it is very probable that secret advanced technology, like that you mention, is being used with chemical spraying.
A couple of informative websites here
http://www.metatech.org/A06/chemtrails_reason_cause.html
and
http://www.healthfreedom.info/Chemtrails%20Barium%20Toxicity.htm
Regards
Adam |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 240
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 12:29 am: |
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Scott the picture you posted of the aircraft with the condensation trails behind it is called Blackstar and it is a highspeed military vehicle with which I am familiar. Your picture is turned sideways and I know this because I have seen the original of that photo. The glowing lights are the engine exhausts and their associated jet flames (like an afterburner does).
That craft is controversial for other reasons, but I can tell you personally that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH CHEMTRAILS other than the pollution its engines create. I worked in the aerospace industry for years and I am familiar with projects that the public isn't. Therefore you can trust me when I see these things or not, but I have personal experience with these things and they are NOT alien, nor do they use antigravity, nor do these craft (that you have shown in the photo) spread chemtrails... |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 739
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 03:41 am: |
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Gosh, Thomas!
I hope you’re not in big trouble now!
In all my years in the US Air Force, I NEVER met anybody, who was dealing with classified material (let alone TOP SECRET) classified material, who was also willing to even admit it, let alone discuss the specifics, LET ALONE on a PUBLIC DISCUSSION FORUM!!!!!
WOW!
As a matter of fact, as you should know all too well, the first thing that every military person is taught in that regard is the “need to know” rule. That’s why I wonder why you are so confident in your assertion about the Blackstar’s roles and specifics. (antigravity, chemtrails, etc.)
We TRUST you!
But since you have clearly been given permission to publish this (formally) classified data here, perhaps you can tell the international intelligence community who monitors (and presumably contributes generously to) this forum, which model (of the three below) is the real one? Or are you prepared to provide some original photos? Also, could you give us all a more detailed description of what is actually being portrayed in Scott’s photo, please? Why are the thrusters incandescing so violently white? Can you tell us whether magnesium is being used as a propellant?
Thanks,
Dyson
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Ardie
Member
Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 05:16 pm: |
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Hi Scott and All,
I've noticed the black lines in the past, but thought that they must be shadows. I'd forgotten about them until you mentioned it and I've noticed them again these past few days.
I found this site that is discussing this subject and they have pictures also.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001795.html
Ardie |
Mgilbo1
Member
Post Number: 54
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 09:42 pm: |
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looks like a spy plane to me for the upper atmosphere. Its obvious its using jet engines, not antigravity so I can't see how this can be anything unbelievable unless its unmanned or equipped with some sensitive equipment and even that can't be classified as amazing. The only thing amazing I can imagine about this is the price tag footed by the American people.
Mark Gilbo
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 751
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 09:51 pm: |
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Hi Ardie!
After they fixed our phone line (second to last time) I did a bulk forum reply here: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/7473.html#POST26948 and addressed the black line issue. (and found more CTs in your photo) The top one here IS a shadow: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001795.html
but the photographer can be forgiven for being mistaken because normally the altitude of ice crystals - where the shadow is - which makes the refractive ring - is higher.
(Chemtrail Central is a big source of disinfo/fearmongering, too)
But there is also a black line effect sometimes when a chemtrail passes through an area of light cloud, and seems to dissipate it. This looks like one: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/imgdb/img/1092-img.jpg
There are examples of the above two phenomena @ www.gaiaguys.net/chemtrails.htm
What’s most remarkable is the sheer number of people who cannot SEE these things!
I just do like Bill Clinton. I don’t inhale. ;-)
Cheers!
Dyson |
Curlymoses
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:32 am: |
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I sent the following paragraph to the staff at infowars.com:
http://www.theyfly.com/The_Chemtrail_Conspiracy.html Like Rodriguez rethinking the original Machete script, please consider the information in the link provided before including this topic in the new documentary. Learn all you can about why the information could be timely and appropriate to your aims. Are chemtrails vital to the main cadre of ideas that need most desimination at this time? I think it can be a distraction that may ciphon valuable resources away from the critical mass growing towards more central issues.
The 6 day a week Alex Jones radio/T.V. show provides news, guests, and investigative reports on a wide array of topics. The program has a large and growing number of listeners/viewers. It is for those reasons that I send their staff emails asking them to consider researching the Meier material, maybe invite Michael Horn to be a show guest, and eventually offer the FIGU related material up for greater discussion and debate to an audience eager for solutions to problems they see around them. |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 274
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 07:33 am: |
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Did any Aussies see the Australian spiral at about 5:50 a.m. on June 5, 2010? Apparently they're trying to blame it on the Falcon 9. This was based on one unknown peron's (jetforme) ground track that they determined using the coordinates. The funny thing is, the coordinates were never released to the public and if someone were to find them out, and spread that information, they would be prosecuted. So whose lying?
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 495
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 05:51 pm: |
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I am not in that part of Australia, and therefore missed it.
I have discussed it with someone who has taken an interest in these events, and did not find any info to lead me think the one that was seen had anything to do with chemical spraying though.
Robyn |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 1041
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 11:07 pm: |
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> I thought BEAM said the chemical spraying/chem trrails thing was bogus?!? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1998
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 05:25 am: |
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Hello,
Here is an excerpt in which Billy and Ptaah are discussing contrails/chemtrails:
236th Contact report of Thursday, February 3rd, 2005, 10:57PM
FIGU-Bulletin No. 52, June 2005
Die Wahrheit der Beschaffenheit und Form usw. der Kondensstreifen, wie diese in der heutigen Zeit in Erscheinung treten, beruht einzig und allein darauf, dass sich durch den Treibhauseffekt Veränderungen ergeben, die zuvor nicht waren.
The truth of the nature and form, and so forth, of the contrails, as these appear in the current time, is based singly and alone on the fact that, through the greenhouse effect, changes are present which did not previously exist.
I think the key to this is to determine what is meant by "Greenhouse effect" and what those changes in the atmosphere are which have led many to assume what we are seeing is the result of that change.
Scott |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1813
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 02:59 am: |
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Hi All....
I think Michael - Hit the nail on the head, when he posted concerning the many
Natural Changes occurring, and that perhaps indeed, this also links the
Chemtrail phenomenon(?). Logically, it can fit in this scenario.
"Changes are present which did not previously exist."...would clearly confirm
that it can manifest: way beyond our own sensing....Visually...and/or in any
manner it may manifest, which we have now...to 'adjust' to.
"Creation manifests herself in...many a-mysterious ways....."
Consequences: Cause and Effect; and will adapt herself to the Circumstances.
[Always Adapting herself, to the Circumstances...forever Changing, as Billy
and Christian (and Jmmanuel-TJ) stated a number of times....]
Even beyond our Comprehension......
Edward. |
Ymmit1988
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 06:48 am: |
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Why is it Billy Meier calls people who write about chemtrails idiotic when ex-cia/ex-miliatary people are saying its true and now there is damning evidence of a plane with nozzles on the back turning on and off some kind of substance?
Billy:
"Already, years ago, we privately spoke about the so-called "chemtrails", being contrails from airplanes, which are used by conspiracy theorists in order to make the humans who believe them crazy and to drive them into angst and terror, in that they write idiotic books and thereby earn horrendous money. "
Interview with ex-government agent AC Griffith:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM6P_-Czr-E
Plane with nozzles on the back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU |
Lth
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 08:56 am: |
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> Maybe because "Agent" Griffith could be lying or misinformed himself > possibly??? Or there could be more to the story... |
Lth
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 09:00 am: |
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> For example, the center "nozzle" on the video you imbeded is the exhaust > for APU (aux power unit), nothing else. The other "trails" are condensation > trails and I have seen the same on takeoff while flying on various > aircraft. No mystery there... BTW, I was in the aerospace industry for a > long time and have also gone to airframe and powerplant school. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2008
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 12:02 pm: |
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Lth,
Do you believe the phenomena which has been classified as chemtrails to be possible? I don't believe from my personal observations that in all cases these trails can be simply written off as condensation from exhaust emissions. I know what the Plejarens have stated regarding this subject, but I haven't come across a viable explanation from their material which answers what exactly is a "greenhouse effect"
Regards
Scott |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2009
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 12:46 pm: |
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LTH,
Just curious, why did you cancel your old account?
Tnxs
Scott |
Lth
Member
Post Number: 21
Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 12:49 pm: |
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> I don't claim to have all the answers but so many people misinterpret what > they see. What have you seen that gives you cause to think chemtrails > exists in the sense that they are intentionally sprayed aerosols with a > nefarious goal? BTW it is just me, Thomas. I have changed my account and > not for reasons of sneakiness :-D |
Lth
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 12:56 pm: |
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> Personal reasons which I think Robyn is possibly aware of. I prefer to > keep that to myself otherwise but no deception is involved. |
Lth
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 01:00 pm: |
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> I can give you details though if you email me directly. It isn't something > I want to discuss with the forum as a whole :-) |
Lth
Member
Post Number: 26
Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 01:54 pm: |
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Contact 213 and contact 222 both give some explanations about the origins of the greenhouse effect Scott. I hope that is helpful but I am certain that other contacts also mention this effect as shown by a quick scan of the contact reports I have so far via the Windows search function... |
Ymmit1988
Member
Post Number: 14
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 04:50 pm: |
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Lth, why are there numberous nozzles on that airplane? Please explain to me what AC Griffith and numerous other ex-governmental agents would gain from lying to the general public. In Some cases they have been killed for their outspoken views. In that video you can clearly see nozzles turn on and off. If it was condensation that impacts only at certain altitudes why would it have stopped and started in such a short period of time? I'm open minded as to whether this is happening or not but for some of you guys to so arrogantly say it is definitely not, like you are omniscient is amazing to me. |
