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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 09:41 pm: | 
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Hi Justsayno:
Thanks for your reply. Are you in Australia?
I always appreciate any echo from the list members. I hope my rationale conducts me in the right path to knowledge & understanding.
Any counter-ideas will be most welcome.
BTW: Do you always just-say-no? ;)
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1821
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 03:29 am: |
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Hi Michael....
Yes...some Twist!!
If it were those other wells involved...it would have already been aired by
now....; something that just can not be overseen.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 481
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 04:15 pm: |
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Something rare, a very recent (uploaded today) aerial survey of the gulf oil spill taken from a light plane. 10 minutes Youtube with commentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM-6iBNJm0s
Then watch Navy Secretary Ray Mabus talk and talk and talk though in effect saying nothing. He appears to have no idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bEH-L-djKg
3,650,000 gallons a day. And guess what. Her Majesty Queen of England owns ..... 74% of BP. Yeah, she must be crying about all that waste.
Cheers.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1310
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 07:31 pm: |
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Best Greetings All,
For an exclusive story on the Oil Blowout from an Australian reporter (threatened to be pulled from Youtube)
See here while it is still up: ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qDoGustOwU
Wisdom must come before Peace
Salome
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1315
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 05:31 pm: |
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A disaster of "apocalyptic" proportions looms ahead from this Oil-Blowout. There is a map from ROFFS which shows the oil has already rounded the Florida Keys and impacting along the Eastern coastline of the USA. Oil is spotted in the Carolinas and on up towards Long Island, NY. Next will be see oil at Iceland and England. There has been projected that as much as one-third of the Oceans on Earth will die from this. The Planktons, Seaweeds, and algae in the Ocean provide up to 60-percent of the Oxygen on Earth. When these die, we are facing an Atmosphere Collapse. No one will escape this disaster.
It becomes increasingly clear that we all are being lied to by BP and our government
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Darren
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 05:45 pm: |
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Ramirez wrote "Her Majesty Queen of England owns ..... 74% of BP."
Hi Ramirez,
I didn't know that as well as was surprized reading it too, so I done some quick searches but found two different owners. Which one is it?
"BP oil is still own 74% by the Queen "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqjvyYm4c3E&feature=related
"And, the British government owns roughly 70 percent of British Petroleum."
http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF001975/Crowe/Crowe02/Crowe02.html |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1316
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:46 pm: |
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!!!
Here is the link to the ROFFS map. On the map you will see the symbols: WOM which is where the oil is already caught in currents. As seen here the currents already carry WOM around the keys into the Atlantic seaboard. ...
ROFFSTM OCEANOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS FOR THE DEEPWATER HORIZON OIL SPILL AREA UPDATED MONDAY 28 JUNE 2010 (18 0 HRS)
http://www.roffs.com/DeepwaterHorizon/ROFFSOil_28JUNE2010.pdf
!!!
~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 482
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 03:52 am: |
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Hi Darren,
Your correct. I believe the figure quoted is not accurate. There are sources claiming 74%, 69.7% 65% and other variations. Also these sources quote Her Majesty's government owns the shares and I think this might be where the information became confused at the site. Her Majesty's government not Her Majesty.
So it's not accurate. The Queen personally does not own a 74% portfolio of BP shares and it did seem strange as BP was worth around 200 billion before the spill.
Cheers.
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 1318
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 04:10 pm: |
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*****
Greetings All,
As if the news weren't already bad enough - Droughts spreading in Niger, Northern Africa, The mid-East, India, Australia, China - with the huge losses in crops.
There now comes the news of a "Rust-fungus" spreading fast through the many of the Wheat crops across the world. See here for the story from The Economist: ...
"Rust in the bread basket"
"A crop-killing fungus is spreading out of Africa towards the world’s great wheat-growing areas." Jul 1st 2010
http://www.economist.com/node/16481593?story_id=16481593
It so appears that if we Human Beings do not take control of the Overpopulation problem, Nature will do the job in much more horrible ways such as starvation.
*****
~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Darren
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 07:05 pm: |
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Hi Rod,
For the past year or so there has been little or no droughts in Australia. We've had a bumper rainfall season and drenching across all of Australia. The Outback is pretty much all green at the present time. |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 1320
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 02:37 pm: |
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Hi Darren,
Pleased to hear from you. I'm glad to know that conditions have improved there in OZ.
Did the rains come in time to produce a good crop this past season?
Cheers
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Darren
Member
Post Number: 255
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 09:03 pm: |
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Hi Rod,
Pleased to hear from you too. Yes this past year conditions have improved dramatically since the (once in a decade) rains have come. From what I hear most areas had good crops too. (But some other areas were damaged by floodings too) But this good rainfall is only temporary, and who knows how long it would last too. Its been going for about a year now which is highly unusual weather for Oz. Our past Summer was like Winter Weather/temporature. Some say this is the result of climate change with weather patterns changing all over globe. |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 315
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 07:32 pm: |
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The concept of 'sustainability' is one which we might all be discussing right now in this time of planetary ecosystem collapse.
For instance,
what does it mean?
why is sustainability important?
why should we bother with it?
when there are so many other important things to concern ourselves with
like what clothes to wear in the morning,
or how best to do one's near-to-utterly inconsequential occupation,
or even thinking up political arguments in jostling for position and power).
So lets consider these questions one by one.
1. What does sustainability mean? Sustainability refers to sustaining the systems that support life. (Even better were the mass social question to be concerned with the universal creative laws (UCL?), then the beautiful expression of life would be the goal.) The Brundtland Report is generally considered by most professional/academic types to have best defined 'sustainability'. (And what does Chair Gro Harlem Brundtland advocate? Social justice... which is only best found in groups relating to one another through a creative peace and mutual understanding.)
2. Why is 'sustainability' important? Biodiversity is the spice of life! It takes all kinds. It takes all kinds. ; )
3. Why should we bother with sustainability? Oh, perhaps because the only Earth we are privy to is actually worth saving. Earth has tremendous biodiversity, which is quite beautiful to see. Our wild garden so full of the magical stuff of life. And we are ruining it.
And there are so many other important things which we must do,
like save the economy,
prevent racial wars
and religious machinations,
even figure out how to rein in psychotic wackos with too much technology in their hands.
Yet even these are inconsequential when consider that we are now only going to destroy the planet.
How do you think it has come to this?
Tell me, how has it come to this.
Love is the only thing that is more important than the beautiful expression of life,
which is just where love is found.
Love is always the way
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 10:46 pm: |
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Hi Carlos, no I'm from Canada, but always hoped to visit Australia some day. I justsayno to many things that a lot of people still feel are harmless (microwaves, cellphones, chemical laden environment). I do sayyes to keeping healthy and making positive choices.
Hi Sean, nice video from the outbacks of Alberta, lol. Right in my backyard. The weird thing I found about that video was that a true Albertan would be saying WTF? when filming. But not a peek? What's up with that? And how close to the cold lake weapons range was it?
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 483
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 02:08 am: |
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Gulf Oil Spill and Spin.
Given that 3,650,000 US gallons of oil escape into the water each day let's examine President Obama's claim made at about 1 minute 30 seconds into this video. The video is 2 minutes 30 seconds long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNU6T3WnqrQ
Then watch an overflight of the gulf area including the former rig position made 30 June 2010. This video is 2 minutes 26 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W82bWsZmQ0A
Ask yourself: If there are claims escaping oil is being captured ..... how is this done ? What technical solution is being employed. Then the next question.
If oil is being captured where and how is the captured oil stored and how is it transported away ?
Be logical. There is a subsurface leak of 3,650,000 gallons each day 1 mile below the surface. Where is the captured proportion being stored if the overflight footage shows no tankers in the vicinity ?
Auxiliary brain please. 3,650,000 gallons X 78 days = a lot of oil + a lot of lies.
Cheers.
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Mike
Member
Post Number: 76
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 01:08 pm: |
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Can’t say we weren’t warned already…
Researchers are puzzling over a sharper-than-expected collapse of Earth's upper atmosphere during the deep solar minimum of 2008-09.
Quote: “In this way he discovered that the thermospheric collapse of 2008-2009 was not only bigger than any previous collapse, but also bigger than the sun alone could explain.
One possible explanation is carbon dioxide (CO2)”.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/15jul_thermosphere/
Salome
Mike |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 485
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 03:20 am: |
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Gulf Oil Leak spill stopped ..... but not quite.
Today Friday 16 July the flow of oil was stopped by a capping device but ....... it is now leaking from nearby seabed fissures as evident from this 2 minute 19 second video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ7EH_vLjS8
Will pressure gradually increase the leakage from these fissures which could present an even more intractable problem than that posed by the ruptured pipe head ? How do you stop oil escaping from one or more cracks in the seabed ?
Will the capping device hold ?
Cheers.
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Kingman
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Post Number: 820
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 06:10 am: |
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Whether the cap holds or not, we have witnessed a part of the prophesies that describe the beginning of the destruction of the Northern Hemisphere. It seemed clear(in my meager diminished feelings sense) this prophesy was to begin in the early part of the third millennium. The USA will/is experiencing its utter destruction caused by its own blind cravings. Overpopulation? Sure, we need to comprehend this poor evolutionary direction, but our other faults will get in the way of allowing this obvious dead end from actually becoming our final demise, luckily(?).
The very fabric we rely upon to feed our progressions, that which is best described as lying openly hidden at the beginning of the food chain, something that nearly each one of us has never actually seen in its actual reality, the oxygen creating plankton, which will be completely wiped out from the culmination of the spill, the dispersants, the evilly directed, materialistically formed, lack of empathy from the causers of the effect. Which, when added to the prior cancerous condition of the Gulf's growing oxygen depleted dead zones, and the thousands of profitable, capitalistically worshipped, almighty dollar-spewing wells operating in this area, included with the local judicial control in the hands of the uncaring materialists, as well as the utter vastness involved in this civilization changing marker that will domino a truly epic disaster man will clearly suffer from on a historic scale, and the fact that our billions actual human numbers that we amount to on our planet, will not be able to hide the true effects this will have on everyones daily situation across our planet, exposing what we were all allowing our consciousness to understandably ignore, the start.
Who really wants to see the first chapter of that dreaded paradigm that will dictate what is clearly our path as an degenerately unbalanced physical/spiritual creation. That deadly, seldom survived, and usually only understood at the last moment when it's actually to late event. A Painful path that can create a beautiful, wisdom laden spiritual human, who has had the fortune to at least confront, and as such a being, pass. That eventual test all rightly evolving physical humans MUST experience to grow their planets spiritual human consciousness.
In short, the marker has crystalized for that event of events that we have looked for that describes the "start scenario" of what we will have to look forward to in our successful future evolution. Saying this expresses my outlook for what I eventually see as Earth's humanities greatest efforts for creation, thus far. Inside me, I now have that clear marker on the game board of Earth's future that says, "Start here". Everything else has been preparation for the necessary skills needed to help guide our societal consciousness on our planet to its highest creative potential that this present possesses. Only drama of a planet destroying nature will course correct the Earth's Humans spiritual evolution, Oh, and the true Creational Laws and Directives which are delivered for their final time by this Universes most unique wormy creation and Earth resident, the simple Swiss farmer, Eduard Meier, and any who desire to help Earth man's evolution.
It is now.
Someone had to point this out. Ready? Set, Go!
a friend in america
Shawn
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1327
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 04:57 pm: |
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Hello Ramirez and Shawn, Best Greetings All,
The oil leaking through numerous fissures was known for several months. I have to question: Why wasn't the flow-rate from those fissures calculated before they placed this cap? There are two possibilities for the source of the "fissure-oil"
1) The cracks have propagated all the way up through 35,000 feet of clay, shale, muck, and hard rock from the oil reservoir.
Or 2) The oil pressure itself has ruptured the down-hole casing in several places, allowing oil to spread through the softest materials (layers of sand) until it finds an escape to the subsea floor.
IF number one, then we are all in very deep doo-doo, as there would be NO WAY to stop the continued flow. IF number two, that "could" be solved by packing concrete down the entire 35,000-foot length of casing. Maybe.
By having previously measured the flow rates from those fissures, then measuring AFTER the cap placement, allowing the pressure to build up the projected 8,000 PSI, an INCREASE in the fissure flow would define a ruptured casing. IF the fissure flow rate remains the same, then we are looking at a ruptured seabed clear down to the reservoir...the worst case scenario. Whichever it is, the ecology of the entire Gulf is dead now, The toxins run so deep, it would take many years before any life comes back. Meanwhile too, the Water-Oil-Mix (WOM) is now already out into the Atlantic currents, bringing more death as it goes. The oxygen produced in he seas already beginning to drop.
Shawn, as you say: Ready? Set, Go. Billy has given us some astounding prophetic warnings. What can we expect next? Possibly a great conflagration. The combination of the acid rain from the sulfur compounds together with the oily droplets dispersed over the forests could first kill all the trees and vegetation around the gulf (this has already begun), then they begin to burn. A burn of magnificent proportions to go to crown across the forests - a conflagration beyond control due to the oil. Such a burn could melt the roadways, leaving no escape from cities which become choked with ash, soot and firebrands falling from the skies. Refineries and chemical plants all along the coast exploding one after another releasing thicker chemical toxic soup drifting through every neighborhood. All this consuming even more irreplaceable oxygen from the air.
The greed of the companies now comes to roost, like buzzards looking for crispy flesh. The Economic systems fall like dominoes. New wars break out for the dwindling resources. The poor are cast into oblivion with no voice. We here can only say: Earth Human you have failed the test, you have given over your self-responsibility to those which take everything from you. It's too late to turn back now. Your tin-gods have not come to save you from your folly. It is now that the Overpopulation Time=bomb has finally exploded. Did you not hear the call of the Prophet, Billy Meier? Perhaps they'll listen now.
Salome
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~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 323
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 01:16 pm: |
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Iran has stated (Reuters) that it will build a FUSION reactor... Controlled fusion as power source is something which all the scientists of the modern world have said is impossible, although we have thrown bunches of big-money science at it. Are they idealistically reaching for something just outa reach, or are they just baiting everyone again? De quien sabes.
Iran plans to build nuclear fusion reactor
By Hashem Kalantari, Reuters
Saturday, 24 July 2010
Iran said today it planned to build an experimental nuclear fusion reactor, state television reported, at a time when the West is demanding that Tehran suspend sensitive nuclear work.
In 2006, Iran said it was pressing ahead with research tests on nuclear fusion, a type of atomic reaction which has yet to be developed for commercial power generation, but this was the first mention in years that the work was continuing.
"We need two years to complete the studies on constructing and then another 10 years to design and build the reactor," Asqar Sediqzadeh, head of Iran's Nuclear Fusion Research Center, told Iran's English-language Press TV.
The United States and its European allies suspect Iran is trying to build an atomic bomb, and have imposed sanctions on it in a drive to convince it to drop sensitive nuclear work. Tehran says its nuclear programme is for civilian purposes only.
Iran's nuclear chief Ali Akbar Salehi said Iran was ready to co-operate with the international community over the country's National Fusion Energy Project, the Students News Agency ISNA reported, without mentioning the plan to build the reactor.
"The scientific phase of the fusion energy research project is being launched with no budgetary limitation," Salehi said.
Love is always the way
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1339
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 04:55 pm: |
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Hi Sitkaa,
That Iran announces they will build a Fusion Reactor is only a political ploy. They do not have either the resources or the "technology know-how" to do this.
The only viable fusion reaction possible today is in the Thermonuclear Bomb, which is a Fission-Fusion device. A smoke-screen for building such a bomb? We hope not.!
Peace
*****
~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 519
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 12:18 am: |
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The whole fear and loathing of the world can be dissolved with a single gesture of goodwill . It does not take a genius to see that the newsbites that are made are mainly issuances of respect ; that for everyone to get over-excited requires a lesson in basic humanity .
A basic observance , that trust is a factor of respect . The Iranians are actually a very amiable people , with much character , personality and humor . I see through their president's bravado , but I respect the fact that he shows it as a lesson to whoever would dare to copy the actions of our previous president as well as the intentions of you-know-who-it-is-rael.
If all the world leaders would just go over there , smile big and embrace the man as a friend , I can already see his smile .
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 06:08 am: |
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Remember Blade Runner?
Well lets just pretend and make the Major Corp this time the pharmaceuticals. Vietnam equals Opium, Cocaine, etc (Golden Triangle)and Afghanistan equals the same both no kill zones. We have Air American types in Turkey right now working for the man. Anyone with handfuls of money can walk in anytime and as often as they please <---So too speak!
Bush was Oil, both him his son and his vice president at the time hold heavy shares. Now Obama is looking too the fields again for funding!
So the only universal respect at this moment in time is money and more money which we ain't got!
Greed and Money go hand in hand! Funny whenever we have a recession or a depression of some type there's always a war going on somewhere!
The Games a Foot!
In order for change to take effect, it must be on a level of the likes of the movie "The day the earth stood still!"
Peaceful yet a destructive type of ultimatum with our backs against the wall with no where else too go! Or we just wait for Gaia or our own star the Sun will to do it for us with one fell swoop!
Our days of talk of peace have become so corrupted that an intervention of sometype most surely happen or we are all just toast wiped clean and start all over again!
Sorry for the Gloom and Doom but I'm being realistic here. What we see before us as a species is going to come to an sudden and abrupt end through war or other!
We are Not Alone!
Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.
~Mark Twain
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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