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    Darren Member Post Number: 260 Registered: 07-2009 |
Billy So then: can you explain to me exactly where the safest place for survival would be if the great World War should actually break out? Semjase 77. Nevertheless, you know that _______ really is the safest place. 78. Then, secondly, comes _______, where in _______, a suitable survival place would have to be created. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_142 Any idea what the safest place could be? | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 331 Registered: 10-2004 |
Why do you suppose it would be in the interest of the mission to not specify where in the world survival of WWIII is most likely? Perhaps were the folks who were more open to the Plejaren mission to congregate, we would have less influence on the affairs of mankind, and learn less responsibility as a result. Perhaps it is something else. What do you think? BTW, death is nothing to fear, but the circumstances by which it comes can be somewhat unpleasant. Love is always the way | ||
Pele New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2010 |
I believe that Brasil will be one of the several safe places to be, in case of the possibility of WW III. Pele | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1849 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Rarena.... I read your posting on World War three somewhere, but seem to have lost where it was, but will post here in the appropriate string, ok? As Billy made very clear many times: The World Wars Three, Four....etc., are all based on Prophecies and NOT Predictions! NEVER, has a World War been a Prediction. We are all dependent on the Behavior and Actions of our World Leaderships. If/when they Behave and Act in the appropriate ways, with Peace and Harmony, they can Avert the mentioned World War Scenarios of fulfilling itself. Thus: let it/this NOT be Wishful Thinking! Edward. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 261 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Pele, Brazil is not that far away from the US and if WW3 strikes, the US will be one of the hardest hit with nukes. I was thinking it would have to be situated somewhere lower down in the Southern Hemisphere. | ||
Tachyon Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 09-2008 |
I have been looking for this info again but I can't find it. I remember reading this on a page with the henoch prophecies, but I cannot find it. I read that Australia and Peru would be relatively safe from war and natural disaster. This is going to bug me now, I need to find that link again. Ben, | ||
Ardie Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 02-2000 |
It sounds to me like the Antarctic would be one of the top two safest places to be during a World War. But, nearly impossible to survive in unless you had lots of money to build a suitable warm place and were able to store tons of food. The other option, I believe, would be to go underground. That could be done just about anywhere, but also a very expensive project when talking about housing a large number of people. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 262 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Ben, Be great if you can find that link. I'd certainly like to read it! If Australia is supposed to be the safest place the P's are talking about (which when looking at a world map would seem logical), then fair to think that New Zealand would also be a safe place too. Thats two places, but I guess the P's could have meant Australia and NZ together as one as the safe place. Thats if its the place. (NZ is below right of Australia)  | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 08-2008 |
Darren: I lived many happy years in Auckland. I keep it close to my heart. There are many volcanoes across the city, they have now been turned into natural parks. NZ is in the border of 3 tectonic plates! So, it's far from war and strive like the national anthem goes, but very close to tectonic movements. Salome Carlos -- Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form. Quetzal: Das will ich tun. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 601 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hello Ardie, Billy mentioned in a Questions to Billy statement a few years back that living underground was not the way and that even Australia will suffer in the event of world war three. It may have been around 2007 or 2008. 2010 if I remember correctly was also a possible "trigger time" for this event. Contact 31 describes nuclear war on KARTAG. Contact 250 World War 3 (4years long) ageing gene kept secret... and Nostradamus. Contact 333 2006 was a probable time for WW3. FIGU Book entitled 49 Questions (page 38) mentioned WW3 may be unavoidable but could be a mistake in translation from German to English. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 602 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dear Ardie, Billy mentioned in a Questions to Billy statement a few years back that living underground was not the way and that even Australia will suffer in the event of world war three. It may have been around 2007 or 2008. Billy mentioned to Michael Horn last May, we should not worry too much about the possible pandemonium that may ensue. 2010 if I remember correctly was also a possible "trigger time" for this event. After all, we can't change these things in a day, we must strive the best we can to change ourselves within to get to a point where war is no longer. Intellect can dissolve fear. References: Contact 31 describes nuclear war on KARTAG. Contact 250 World War 3 (4 years long) ageing gene kept secret... and Nostradamus. Contact 333 2006 was a probable time for WW3. FIGU Book entitled 49 Questions (page 38) mentioned WW3 may be unavoidable but could be a mistake in translation from German to English. | ||
Ardie Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Randy, I am surprised that living underground would not work, at least for a while. It would cost a fortune to do it right. That was my "plan A" if I was to win the lottery.  In the meantime, I worry a little bit, but try to live right and enjoy what we have right now. I assumed that Australia would probably only have it slightly better than the northern hemisphere, but has Billy ever said anything about the Arctic or Antarctic? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2019 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Ardie, I don't recall Billy mentioning living underground "was not the way", considering there is evidence of earlier peoples living underground on this planet ie; the Blue Skinned Race in India etc..but as you said, the cost involved would be prohibitive for many people. Regards Scott | ||
Lonnie Member Post Number: 303 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Ardie and Scott, I too have thought about this world war 3 scenario, (that is, in the event President Obama doesn't get re-elected, to two or more terms, as we all hope that he will), considering everything I have heard from Billy and the FIGU along with my own analysis and speculation based on current trends. In the event such a war actually occurs, as we know, the whole Earth will be effected. Every major city in North America, the European Union, Russia and China would be destroyed. As in any war, there is usually a warning period giving people opportunity to prepare. If the civil war in the US part of the prophecy comes about, this would probably precede the actual world war because they would see it as the only way to put an end to the evil American Federal Empire and not the people fighting against this evil and their agents. Before the bombing, the government would probably give the people a choice: Either they can stay in the cities and accept the so called security the government provides, which is ludicrous, or go out into the country and fend for themselves. And if all the animal and plant life is destroyed as prophesied, then most people will die from starvation and disease followed by radiation and bullet wounds in that order. We would have to live in the country and grow our own food to survive. And I'm sure it would help to know at least 5 people who live in the country that you can trust with your life. All in all, the very best chance for our survival is maintaining consciousness related health regardless of where we are at the time. Your consciousness will protect you and open the way. But common sense tells me it would be better for ourselves and our families to be at or near the future Center during this time, even though this is not the only area where people will survive in North America. Many will flee to the mountains. And the same for the rest of the northern hemisphere. But for the sake of the mission and all those involved, according to the Plejaren, it is the best and safest place. This is where I want to be. (Message edited by scott on September 04, 2010) Lonnie O'day Morton FIGU Passive Group | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 603 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dear Ardie and all, Concerning WW3 not effecting every square inch of the Earth would actually depend on the severity of such a terrible event. (I.E. if a nuke were released above Greenland (that's the one with all the ice...) an event such as this would raise sea level several feet (something like thirty, it is not my calculation...), obviously not helping those underground. References for this are not remembered by me 100% but it may have been in Contacts: 338, 250, 333 Contact Book 1 Page 341, contact 31 and Questions to Billy Answered. This specific question: Will these warlike individuals be safe underground was answered with, I'm paraphrasing here... no one will be safe if WW3 breaks out. As to worry... Billy mentions we should not worry about these events unfolding since we will continue to exist in spirit. Fear is usually an indication more information needs to be found on the subject that scares you. Apparently we are born again and again... and this very fact should give us inner peace. For sixty years we have been warned and told by the Plejaren of the many events unfolding beyond that of war... such as storms, earthquakes, tsunamis (megawaves really), volcanos and every form of natural events which we have brought upon ourselves via overpopulation and incorrect use of this planet. We are responsible for our own actions one way or another. No person is coming out of the sky to help us... we have to help ourselves... There will, of course, be some who survive a terrible event such as a nuclear war or the filling of Earth's troposphere with oil induced poisonous gasses, overloaded methane laced atmosphere igniting... but would you really want to? We have been warned, now it is up to us to fix these problems... I'll tell ya... if we don't fix the overpopulation problem our dependence on Oil period, not only foreign but all... we will surely live these events. And do you think it is correct to fix the problems or prepare for them? We have got to stop hypothesizing about these comparatively trivial things such as global warming and stop using our good scientific minds... not the know-it-alls mind you... but real thinking men and bright woman who can think with their own minds and not use what the media feels is important such as what some famous person is wearing today and who they are boffing now. It is really trivial. We are currently using three or four billion gallons of this toxic unsustainable oil each and every day... it makes sense that these events will indeed happen if we do not wake up and smell the methane... eh eh... <laugh> We can prepare for anything and it is my thought that nothing is impossible accept for what our minds tell us is so... it is what we think about that is important. | ||
Lonnie Member Post Number: 304 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Randy, I certainly agree with your statements, especially this one: "I'll tell ya... if we don't fix the overpopulation problem our dependence on Oil period, not only foreign but all... we will surely live these events." Concerning the ever urgent matter of preventing the world war, if only our beloved president Obama could at least hear about the importance of putting a birth check into place, I am sure he could respond by doing something about it. And if only he could help the other world leaders see this issue and solution, it could prevent the world-wide catastrophe. I asked Michael Horn if he could possibly meet with Obama about this matter and he said he will keep trying. Lonnie O'day Morton FIGU Passive Group | ||
Ymmit1988 Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2009 |
Guys i hate to burst your bubble but Obama is not on our side, he is just a payed off puppet of banking elite. All the people he has surrounded himself with in the white house are former lobbyists and council on foreign relations/tri-lateral commission members(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw). I seriously thought when he got into office this was a whole new start(i actually cried) but alas he has only escalated the wars which he originally said we would be out of in 6 months. He continues to demonise Iran along with the rest of the western media when they know Iran doesn't have the capabilities to make Nukes and won't for a long time(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElQK-3S2tJw). Obama reacted obscenely regarding the oil spill, allowing B.P. to basically run the whole show, covering the Gulf in poisonous dispersant that is making people sick and the majority of the residents haven't seen any of the fund that was set up. The US is having massive problems along the Arizona boarder because of the drug war in Mexico with local militias having to be set up because the Governement won't protect the boarder themselves and Obama and the media are acting like the people or Arizona are being racist. It's funny how the oil spill comes along just when Obama wants to push through carbon bill allowing mass taxation of the public for their carbon footprint. This will only increase the monetary disparity between massive corporations and the common man. I really thought Obama was going to change things but if you actually look at what he's doing it's only a continuation of Bush's policies especially in the military area. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he kicked off this war with Iran... | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 604 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hello, Nice to hear from you... It would be nice if all our hopes and dreams would be realized. It is my understanding Obama made the banking CEO's more accountable by not allowing them to drag the bank into bankruptcy by taking exorbitant retirement packages... this keeps the bank in business rather than dropping the burden on us taxpayers... some of us, anyway... Barack has instigated the Iraq war be walked away from... a war we all know was unjust... The Russians are agreeing with the US to reduce our mirrored nuclear arsenals... he no doubt had some sort of say about that... The changed stance concerning the Muslims and Palestinians has made the world feel a bit better about Americans... which was his doing. Here is a guy who is not perfect, but he is not an armchair politician who sits around postulating rhetoric... IMHO... he's been thinking on his feet and done more in the last year and a half in many areas, not only world peace... the results of which are only now being realized... than the entire terms in office of the Bush's or the Clintons. I don't agree with his offshore drilling policy nor his policy concerning Afghanistan but, like I said... nobody's perfect. It is refreshing to see a President who can make decisions, both short, mid and long term and then enact them with intelligence and wisdom. I guess it really depends on what you mean by the word "isssss" eh eh... Sheesh! | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 528 Registered: 10-2008 |
Yammit , You might have expected too much from Obama ( as some kind of presidential messiah )and for you , a year and a half in office is ample time for him to have delivered us into some kind of paradise . Of course , your experience in public office is most likely a proper measure of how quickly things should get done . My opinion is that he inherited a "shitstorm" ,and still maintains dignity while struggling with it . MC | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 430 Registered: 06-2009 |
If Obama had not injected the stimulus, world economy would have been much bad shape then it is now. Obama, just by deciding not to attack Iran have so far* managed to avoid a possible third world war. And how many lives that this single inaction saved? Obama signed a long overdue $600 million border security bill which would strengthen its security along the border with Mexico, a border where from illegal immigration into U.S. has been rampant. The betterment of U.S.America's relationship with Russia and to some extent, with the Arab world are his other major achievements. The nuclear treaty, though not the best that one could have expected, is a step in the right direction. But he has to be careful, not to stretch a system beyond what it is ready for. Even considering that, Obama's indecision after the BP oil spill defied logic. Obama's lenient attitude towards the corporate culprits behind the economic collapse also did not make sense to me. His noble prize seemed pre-mature to me. It appears to me that Obama's action and stance toward most of the other issues that faces U.S.America (and not mentioned above) are not markedly different from any previous U.S.American President. Obviously Obama is nowhere near perfect. What is absolutely illogical is to compare him with delusional “with-us-or-against-us” Bush. When a FIGU document mentions about "Obama's mission and the FIGU somehow run parallel" and glorifies him, risking making an indirect political statement (since Obama is affiliated to a political party), it should evoke more questions than knee-jerk reactions. So far FIGU has only glorified one other politician in Switzerland and hence such stances are rare. If one thinks closely, this is a personal certificate to Mr. Obama and not the whole Democratic Party within the framework of whose overall policy he has to operate, neither an endorsement of the current U.S. administration. Obama is the leading person in the administration, but he has checks and balances and he cannot act on his whims and change a policy overnight – especially in a country where desire to dominate the world run deep within various military-economic interest groups. * BTW, Ahmadinejad is not an innocent puppy and he is harboring plans against Israel (Contact 430). Iran is looking to develop nukes (Questions to Billy) and that would be very dangerous for the region as long as people like Ahmadinejad are in power. Obama thus have a difficult choice to make – attacking Iran would trigger a war and letting Iran develop nukes would also carry with it danger of triggering a war. Both of which can snowball to the third world war. What is the other option? Breakthrough in the mid-east peace process would leave Ahmadinejad alone in wanting to act against Israel. So far so good with frantic effort by Obama for talk resumption. Salome. Suv | ||
Ymmit1988 Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2009 |
ok..*flexes fingers* Rarena the main point of my post was that there is a big difference between what Obama sais and what he actually does. People hear the word "reform" and think it's going in a positive direction but when you actually look into it the opposite is happening. The bailout has been scandalous especially in America where the banks, although asked by congress did not account for the money when they had promised to. Apparently much of the money has been spent on acquiring smaller banks/other assets. Congress was originally blackmailed into passing the bailout and were told if they didn't the whole economy would collapse. I'm basing a lot of this on information from Max Keiser an ex-wall street trader turned good. Here is his youtube if you are interested (http://www.youtube.com/user/MaxKeiserTV#p/f)he also has a segment on the news channel RT. My feeling as to why he has walked away from Iraq is because it has been adequately pillaged for resources and now the US is moving onto Afghanistan and Iran. The heroin production has increased many times since foreign occupation and coincidentally the US has stumbled on lithium worth trillions. First they said Bin Laden was in Iraq, then Afghanistan and now Iran... Iran is now another target not yet puppeteered by the US with massive oil resources and as i showed you in my previous post it does not and will not have the capabilities for nukes for a long time. I'm not saying Ahmadinejad is a perfect person, I don't know his true motives and neither do you but to prove their uranium was incapable of producing nukes he tried to send it to other countries for enrichment but they declined. It looks to me if anyone is likely to instigate a war its the US and Israel not him. Listen to Ahmadinejad's UN nuclear conferense speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4__ZZy-3IQs) or this interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ2wfIIttfE I agree Markcampbell that Obama inherited a shit situation but when you ignore what he says and look at the outcome of his decisions a whole different picture is created. Many economist are expecting a "double dip" and although I don't know how the economy would have turned out if there hadn't been a bailout it clearly hasn't been a success. The US's population in employment is in general ever decreasing with work being continually outsourced whilst the major beneficiaries of the bailout continue to make massive profits. More and more people are on food stamps as Obama and his wife travel to Gulf and say everything is fine. Here is an interview with a local resident of the Gulf explaining how even now people are getting increasingly sick from the dispersant---http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-cope/the-jaws-syndrome-life-im_b_674481.html There appears to have been a massive cover up of the situation where either Obama himself is being duped or is complicit. Smukhuti, just because Obama hasn't attacked Iran yet doesn't mean he won't, in fact most signs suggest that is exactly where we are heading. Israeli intelligence have been urging for an attack at the same time as Netanyahu being caught saying he has "American wrapped around his thumb". Interestingly Harvard just sold all their assets in Israeli institutions and corporations which doesn't look like a positive sign to me. When the money gets out the shit hits the fan. The same is happening to the US, China is moving away from the dollar into gold and silver as well as many US based companies leaving for the far east. I'm not saying I know everything by any means but in regard to his new boarder security bill I'll wait to see what impact it has on the ground. They can pass as many bills as they want but all that matters is whether it improves the situation. It looks to me like they lost the battle over immigration with Arizona because the people wanted better enforcement and now the government has no choice but to act. When I compare Obama to Bush i mean that despite the pleasant facade his policies are in the same direction. Obama hasn't stopped torture extraditions, is trying to push through a health bill the majority don't want and as well as enforcing a carbon tax that will disproportionately effect the US compared to the new major pollutants like China and India. It's seems to be a token gesture mainly aimed at taxation or the public rather than big buisiness and doing little to prevent damage to the environment. China continues to open more and more coal plants every week. Sorry this has been so long, hope I haven't bored you to death. Peace | ||
Thomas57 Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2009 |
What I find most interesting among intelligent residents of the US, is that any reference to "Obama" being able to 'do' anything, are based in a seeming lack of Constitutional knowledge. He taught Constitutional Law, and it was his campaign speech - which stressed his knowledge of it, that caught my vote. It IS the CONGRESS that truly has the power to veto the banking monopoly by taking BACK the issuing of money, credit and regulating commerce. The Executive enforces those decisions, and the Judiciary that adjudicates them. The power to create "economic welfare' resides in the CONGRESS. Tell each of your members, that which you would have them do! And enforce it with your vote - both in the ballot box, BUT more specifically, in the JURY. Simply find for the people - not the banks! Constitutionally yours, Thomas Paine | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 531 Registered: 10-2008 |
That's OK Yammit , we accept your condolences to all of us . |
