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    Mahigitam Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 02-2009 |
Contact Report 214, Tuesday, February 3rd, 1987 Quetzal : ...end of the first and at the beginning of the second year of the new millennium, an asteroid the size of a few hundred meters, which will still be unknown to the earthly scientists until then, will cross Earth’s orbit at a distance of a little more than half a million kilometers away(>500,000 Kms) CORROBORATION : January, 2002 Earth escapes brush with killer asteroid http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/01/07/killer.asteroid/index.html "...range might seem like enough to breath easy, about 600,000 km, but many scientists classify it as a relatively close call." In nature there are no names... - mahigitam | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2009 |
Contact Report 214, Tuesday, February 3rd, 1987 Quetzal : During the period leading up to the turn of the millennium, a number of such objects will arrive in the near vicinity of Earth, but without endangering the Earth directly, even if, at the same time, the distance mark of such an asteroid falls below the 200,000-kilometer mark from the Earth, and thus, the object passes closer to the Earth than the Moon[384,403 kms]. CORROBORATION : 1991 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_BA "..discovered by Spacewatch on January 18, 1991 and passed within 160,000 km of Earth. This is a little less than half the distance to the Moon...at the time of its discovery, the smallest and closest confirmed asteroid outside of Earths atmosphere " In nature there are no names... - mahigitam | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2009 |
Contact Report 214, Tuesday, February 3rd, 1987 Billy : asteroid Eros, which I was allowed to view during the great journey(1975),..thousands of large boulders that are scattered about and that are covered in many places by "blue dust or other blue material", ... largest crater, as Ptaah said, is about 7,500 meters wide, if I remember correctly..... Eros still has a size of about 35 kilometers... Quetzal : possibility that Eros could fall to the Earth in the foreseeable future is less than 3 %. CORROBORATION : September, 2001 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/433_Eros Asteroid's mystery 'blue ponds' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1565564.stm ".... scientists have observed "ponds" of bluish dust..... Eros has a 5% chance of colliding with the Earth...." In nature there are no names... - mahigitam | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 02-2009 |
'Terminator' asteroids could re-form after nuke http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527514.700-terminator-asteroids-could-reform-after-nuke.html "If a sizeable asteroid is found heading towards Earth, one option is to nuke it. But too small a bomb would cause the fragments to fly apart only slowly, allowing them to clump together under their mutual gravity. Simulations now show this can happen in an alarmingly short time." SO as Ptaah/Quetzal said, we should not blast away the red meteor into pieces...instead nudge it away by blowing nuclear bombs in its vicinity... In nature there are no names... - mahigitam | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 149 Registered: 02-2009 |
Cuts cast doubt on asteroid plan http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8579319.stm "Plans to more precisely plot the orbit of an asteroid with a small chance of hitting Earth in 2036 may be badly hit by funding cuts to a US radar facility..."If you have a regular telescope, you can tell where it is from left to right in a sense. The radar measures distance, so it is forward to backwards in that same sense...." It is not your thought or my thought, it is thought -J.K. | ||
Sanjin Member Post Number: 139 Registered: 06-2009 |
Dear admirers of astronomical activity. Recently, I have been introduced to a scientific research from the University of Louisiana at Lafayett. Due to numerous presented evidence, they think that there is a "Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud" Here is the PDF version of the presented research and evidence. http://xxx.lanl.gov/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1004/1004.4584v1.pdf Abstract: We present an updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion. The results support a conjecture that there exists a companion of mass ~ 1 - 4M Jupiter orbiting in the innermost region of the outer Oort cloud. Our most restrictive prediction is that the orientation angles of the orbit normal in galactic coordinates are centered on Ω, the galactic longitude of the ascending node=319*; and i, the galactic inclination=103*; (or the opposite direction) with an uncertainty in the normal direction subtending ~ 2% of the sky. A Bayesian statistical analysis suggests that the probability of the companion hypothesis is comparable to or greater than the probability of the null hypothes is of a statistical fuke. Such a companion could also have produced the detached Kuiper Belt object Sedna. The putative companion could be easily detected by the recently launched Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer(WISE). Love makes the world go round. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 350 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hello Mahigitam, Can you post all your hard found corroborations in a single thread irrespective of the corroboration subject? Say, example the Contact Notes thread. It may be easier that way in future to refer. Moderators, will it be advisable, or is it better as it stands now? Salome. Suv | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1252 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Sanjin, Being myself also a long-time admirer of all thing astronomical... Here is a link to a post made in reference to such an object -- possibly the one and same of your reference: ... http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/10281.html#POST42369 I then asked Billy if it were true that we were part of a Binary-Star System (see the question as posted at this link): http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8760.html#POST31219 The answer from Billy came back as a cryptic ["Two times NO."], posted ~half-way down this page: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8892.html#POST31953 The Book in the first of these links is a well researched tour-de-force of local astronomical events which I found to be a fascinating read. As to the answer from Billy -- if questions are not presented in a certain precise, concise format, the answer may go 'astray' relative to what is known otherwise. Salome *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 264 Registered: 07-2009 |
WHile I may not have all of it, you can find lots here: http://theyfly.com/WILL_HUMANITY_WAKE_UP.html | ||
Sanjin Member Post Number: 144 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hallo Rod, Do you think it's possible that the object which they are referring to may not be a star, but just an object with a gravitational field like a planet or even a black hole? Unfortunately, I can't understand much of the information that they presented in the paper. It was just too easy to fall asleep in astronomy class because it was always so dark in the planetarium.  But anyways, the british newspaper "The Sun" has an article about this object. Link to the article They made a quite sensational story out of it, but it mostly does agree with much of the presented data. Love makes the world go round. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1279 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Sanjin, I don't think it could be a black hole. The orbital perturbations of the sun and the outer planets would be much more pronounced than they are now from such a gravitational source. The Kuiper belt objects should form a contiguous band all inclusive out into the Oort cloud. They don't. There is a very wide band from what is called the Kuiper wall out to the Oort cloud from which some mass has swept the entire area clean over millions of years. There is the observed phenomena known as = The Tisserand Parameter The Tisserand parameter is a dynamical quantity that is approximately conserved during an encounter between a planet and an interplanetary body. See page six of the correlation study at this link: http://www2.fis.ua.pt/ENAA/Palestras/npeixinho.pdf ["If you travel out to the far edge of the solar system, into the frigid wastes beyond Pluto, you'll see something strange. Suddenly, after passing through the Kuiper belt, a region of space teeming with icy rocks, there's nothing. Astronomers call this boundary the Kuiper cliff, because the density of space rocks drops off so steeply. What caused it? The only answer seems to be a 10th planet. We're not talking about Quaoar or Sedna: this is a massive object, as big as Earth or Mars, that has swept the area clean of debris. The evidence for the existence of "Planet X" is compelling, says Alan Stern, an astronomer at the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado. But although calculations show that such a body could account for the Kuiper cliff (Icarus, vol 160, p 32), no one has ever seen this fabled 10th planet.] http://coyoteprime-runningcauseicantfly.blogspot.com/2009/04/astronomy-what-is-kuiper-cliff-planet-x.html So, yes the evidence is compelling that a substantial mass is in a locked orbit with the sun. There is a mutual center of gravity between the sun and the object around which both will orbit, causing a long-period wobble in the path of the sun through the galaxy. The object is most likely a failed sun, too small to emit very much radiation in the deep infrared. The object may have enough mass to have a small retinue of planets of it's own. Current astrophysics place the object coming towards us from the direction of the Galactic center, so would be extremely difficult to spot against the background of so many bright stars. *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 117 Registered: 06-2006 |
Maybe this has been seen before - but anyway - Clip where 'Neil Degrasse Tyson' {supposedly the new Carl Sagan of sorts - though not sure about that myself - whatever} discusses the possibility of using a spaceship ( one with retro-rockets) in order to then create a gravitational tether (or tractor-beam) that would then serve to be able to pull\push an asteroid off course. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ReuLZ2quc&playnext_from=TL&videos=mpOEcS0hFFM Giorraíonn beirt bóthar, Sean. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 420 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hello Carlos, The ancestors of the Plejaren and the Lyrans have done acts that have adversely affected normal human spiritual development on our planet. The core purpose of the mission is to undone the damage done by the belief systems that resulted out of the God-pretenders from a diverse star systems, plus, of course, reversal of the ageing gene. All these, have to be done with minimum or no external intervention on our own affairs. Quite a task... Regarding the Destroyer Comet: The Destroyer Comet, after repeatedly straying through our SOL system twice every 1151 years, was originally scheduled to appear in our solar system in the year 2255, but its course was affected in a manner that it would again appear sometime approximately in the year 3175 (1180 years from 1995) when we would be technologically far more capable to deal with the destruction or minimise it or escape from it. The Destroyer comet is an unimaginably bigger threat to Earth and is incomparable to Apophis*. Just to put things into perspective, a future encounter with this doom is described like this:- During this period, the Destroyer planet will one again create havoc. This ancient roaming celestial body will enter the inner solar system on a collision course with Earth as a result of the Sun's rapidly dwindling nuclear activity and the subsequent total alteration of the gravity fields within the entire solar system. The Destroyer previously caused repeated destruction in the old Lyra regions over millions of years. Only sparsely populated by that time, the Earth will be faced with the threat of complete annihilation resulting from this destructive wanderer and terrestrials will be incapable of safeguarding themselves against it. Because of the suddenly depleted gravity fields, now completely out of control throughout the entire solar system, the terrestrials are unable to direct the Destroyer into another orbit or annihilating the Destroyer. Neither alternative will benefit the Earth, for by this time it will be uninhabitable because of the monumental solaric changes. As a consequence, the remaining few million terrestrials will flee, departing from the planet in hopes of finding an alternative planet elsewhere and of settling there. They get help from the descendants of former terrestrials from the Sirius regions. Everything will transpire as it must: After the disastrous blunders by terrestrial scientists, terrestrials will suffer from the scientists' attempts to destroy the Destroyer, and the scientists' arrogance and conceit will plummet. They will congregate around them ordinary people and flee from the threatened planet Earth. Only three years later the Destroyer will enter the former orbit of Mars and ram into the two Martian moons, Phobos and Deimos, which had remained intact during the planet's destruction. The two moons will disintegrate and trail behind the huge roaming planet as it continues to race toward Earth and ultimately reaches it, but does not ram into it. Nonetheless, the near-collision will result in a catastrophic event in which the Destroyer smashes into the Earth's moon. This will cause both the Moon and the Destroyer to shatter into a myriad of pieces, which will form a rotating belt orbiting around the Earth. The oceans, lakes and rivers will also be torn from their beds at this time, and will evaporate into the atmosphere from the ensuing immense heat. The steam, along with gigantic portions of the atmosphere, will be wrenched into space and then dissipate while, at the same time, the Earth's imperceptible expansion process over the past thousands of years becomes evident now. The Earth will heat up from its interior and the planet's surface will ultimately become uninhabitable.” Had it been kept undisturbed, and it approached our earth in the year 2255, our technology during that period ought to be much less capable of averting or minimizing any destruction. Perhaps a total regression of our civilisation would have been ensured. We would have taken hundred, perhaps thousands of years to recover from the catastrophe. The next great opportunity that is presented by the Age of Aquarious would have to wait for 26000 years. Where would it leave the Plejaren and their grand mission of helping us help ourselves? There is also a question – had it not being for the cultic religions, earth humanity could have been developed more positively spiritually, and as a result, would have suffered less civilisation set-backs, and our technical capability in 2255 would have been more capable of dealing with the Destroyer. Since the destruction of Atlantis, till the early 19th century, our technology has progressed in rather tiny steps. For that matter, the whole of our first millennium was almost a zero in technological progress. Combine with this, the most important fact that the Destroyer was brought to our dimension by technological/unnatural means by the ancient forefathers of the Plejaren and thus the Plejaren had the moral obligation to divert its path long enough to let us technically and spiritually develop to be able to take the right approach (technically and consequentially) to minimize danger against the Destroyer or to be in a position to sought help from other civilisations as prophesised. Contact 311 Billy: With this, some other things should also probably remove themselves from the realm of the prophecies, just in terms of the fact that they existed in connection with the Destroyer. This is well-understood, so it’s not a question but rather an observation; after all, quite a few things were linked with the disappearance of the Destroyer, which will now, fortunately, no longer appear. For this, the Earth people would actually have to express to you their thanks. Ptaah: 8. That isn't a need for us because ultimately, our most distant ancestors were responsible for the fact that the traveller could penetrate into this space-time configuration and could arrive into the SOL system, for at that time, they didn’t have their dimension gate under control. * Regarding Apophis: If we, as humanity, at least the space faring countries of the humanity combine our resources, that will give us a fair chance of diverting this. Even if we fail to unite for a cause, and eventually 10s of millions of people around Europe dies and billions around the planet are affected, the earth changes would not be great enough for our civilisation to completely regress and the mission may continue. These thoughts may appear cold, ruthless, inhumane and selfish to us, but for spiritually evolved beings as the High Council, they have a much finer sense of existence and much bigger picture in their mind to pay heed to. I guess the bigger picture being: 1) Minimum or no interference in our affair so that we learn on our own and achieve long term benefits. 2) To guide the Plejarens so that the Mission is a success before we or something or somebody destroy our planet or civilisation - so that there are no moral obligation on the Lyrans/Vegans/Plejarens to interfere in our affair, or to save us from any future doom that may befall us in our future. Thus, their contrasting advise to the Plejarens on the two objects from space that threaten us. Salome. Suv | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2042 Registered: 12-1999 |
Perhaps I am missing something, but has this been discovered or announced by anyone..? Excerpts from the 476th contact-conversation of the 3rd February 2009 .Nebst all dem bringt das Jahr 2012 noch andere unerfreuliche Dinge, wie z.B. ein aus dem Rande unseres Sonnensystems drohender und bisher noch unbekannter, unsichtbarer, dunkler und riesiger Weltraumwanderer, der in bezug auf die Erde ungeheuer viel Unheil anrichten könnte the year 2012 brings other unpleasant events, such as a so far unknown, invisible, dark and huge space wanderer that is threatening from the fringe of our solar system and could wreak tremendous havoc on Earth Und wenn sich das tatsächlich ergeben sollte, dann würde sich die Tatsache von dessen Existenz erst etwa ab 2010 oder 2011 offen erweisen, wenn überhaupt, weil nämlich auch die Möglichkeit eines `dunklen` und also nicht feststellbaren Vorbeizuges des Kolosses möglich ist. And if this should really occur, the fact of its existence would be openly proven starting with 2010 or 2011, if at all, because the possibility of a “dark” and, therefore, non-observable passage of the colossus is also possible. | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 190 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hello Scott, haven't personally heard about it and we may not be informed unless an amateur broke the news, the interesting thing to consider is why is it dark and unobservable. is it somehow masked by other objects closer to earth or perhaps concealed partially by the perfect angle from space not allowing light to reveal it or both? Here is an article about the use of radar to detect and track asteroids, they highlight one unrelated rock in particular, but it is an interesting read. http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/1950da/ I did run across this asteroid but it's not dark and obviously not unobservable. http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/asteroid-toutatis-approaches-earth-on-december-12-2012/ Peace be to you, with a determined and conscious effort of self responsibility. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1369 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Scott, Matt, and All, Greetings in Peace, It will be interesting to see if this "new" dark object resolves itself into the long-period (~26,000-yr) dark companion of our sun. I had asked Billy about this possibility before, but my error was to ask about a second sun (star). I also do know that the Plejaren refer to large gas-giant planets as failed stars, precisely because they are just short of enough mass for the fusion to "ignite." Perhaps an analysis by deep-space Radar could resolve the mass and trajectory. It will surly disturb comets and asteroids from their current orbits, somethings we will also have to watch for. Matt, interestingly enough, while reading the article at your first link, there is also reference to Apophis, http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/. NASA is in the mode of 'downplaying' the danger as we know it from what Billy tells us. The gov't agencies are short-changing us of truth. Peace *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 615 Registered: 10-2005 |
It is my understanding this is the "Red" Meteor which may be 99942 Apophis which NASA at this time regards as nonthreatening: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/a99942.html | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hi Scott, hope you are well As far as I am aware there has been no recent official alert circulations as to any asteroid / cometary bodies posing a high priority risk to Earth anytime soon (within the next few years). This of course may also imply that we simply haven’t detected such a body as of yet, which would be worrying in itself. One of the problems is that there are so few professional teams involved in actively searching the sky, mainly due to low budget allocation (example; USA spent only four million dollars per annum up until recently, although I understand that NASA’s 2011 budget allocation will provide an additional 12 million in funding). There is however good news in this regard with the newly operational Pan-Starrs project in which one of its remits is to detect potential hazardous objects. It will be much more sensitive than current detection methods, unfortunately only the northern hemisphere will be monitored. There is a global network of advance amateur astronomers tracking known objects and indeed occasionally finding new ones, but this is still not enough. Since the 1980s there has been an increased awareness of the dangers these objects pose and as of lately there has been international symposiums on detection methods and theoretical means of rendering any potential incoming impactors harmless. As of now there are just over several thousand near Earth objects (NEOs) identified, ~800 of these objects are over 1km in diameter of which approximately 1,100 NEOs are classified as potentially hazardous to Earth, I should clarify that this of course does not mean that the object will impact the Earth for sure but rather it is a calculated treat based on current data that there is a possibility that this may be the case in some instances at a future time, perhaps! Calculating orbital elements for these objects can be very difficult and it takes some effort, in the case of “99942 Apophis” which became headline news in 2004 was number one on the list as potentially the most dangerous although I understand that this situation has changed recently and it has been downgraded. Recent spectroscopic and other studies of Apophis show it to be ~350 meters in diameter, so it is very large by volume and if of typical density could cause an immense amount of damage to the biosphere of Earth if it did impact. Trying to calculate orbital elements for such an object is akin to calculating whether a high velocity bullet will hit a small target two miles away when the only data available is when the bullet has only traveled a half meter from the barrel of the gun and trying to extrapolate from there. Further careful studies are definitely required of this object and indeed if required the combined means of planet Earth’s humans in using whatever effective technology there is available to change its orbital characteristics to render it harmless, (personally I would like to see Apophis destroyed, a one way trip to the Sun should do it!). Salome Mike | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 136 Registered: 08-2008 |
IN the odd case that FBI CIA and other Zionist related organizations are not yet reading this forum, then we can send emails to this new representative of the world governments, recently appointed by UN to talk to messenger from space.. FIGU could send her all the contact notes :-) http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/un_names_official_space_host_ltMCKbI4WmIPKteaugcanM Salome Carlos -- Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form. Quetzal: Das will ich tun. | ||
Johnboy Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 07-2008 |
In Contact 150, part 4, there was a reference to the Destoyer comet dragging seven asteroids from the asteroid belt. Six of those seven hit the earth in various oceans. The seventh was possibly going to hit the earth in 2014.... 9792.5 B.C. – 575.5 orbital period years 9792,5 - 575,5 Special Event: Destroyer rips 7 large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt casting them into various dangerous orbits and which, in coming times, will endanger the earth. One of them probably in (the year) 2014 | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 307 Registered: 10-2009 |
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/SciTech/20100826/antimatter-detector-100826/ Antimatter detector to catch last shuttle to space. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2043 Registered: 12-1999 |
Carlos, Do you think they are not reading this forum? | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1901 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... It is even mentioned - invisible - which I guess should be interpreted as one not yet Detected, by our scientists. In this case an Undetected Astroid. I have seen a few docs which mentioned the frustration of many scientists whom all agree that there are still MANY Unknown Asteroids that have not yet been discovered. And if one such, that is not yet discovered, should all of a sudden be in alignment with Earth in her trajectory: than, it may perhaps cause a Collision scenario, with Earth. And measures being taken 'too late'. Thus: it can cause a - Close Call - scenario.... Second interpretation: Some scientists say they are aware of something similar to a Black Hole (but way smaller in size) which wanders around randomly within a Universe and can just 'pop-up' out of nowhere and manifest itself and cause very much destruction. [It being Invisible, and than Visible and Dark.... But, this is still Theory based....] Edward. |
