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Tobi
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 11:56 am: | 
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justsayno,
I was wandering how you made the eyes of "your body"
And the neighbour had the brain on the attick?
Tobi
good is enough for me |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 315
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 08:09 am: |
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Hi Michael, no I don't believe in karma, only cause and effect. What you quoted certainly holds true. But does that still hold true if people are coming back too early, you know due to our overpopulation? If a lifeform is unable to successfully change from female to male, are you sure that's the only issue that is ever going to arise over that? Maybe I read it wrong but when a person dies do they not have 21 days to assume a new life form? It's my understanding that if a life is ended due an accident or an interrupted life, then the following life only has to be lived to make up for the stuff that didn't get learned before death? I just want to make a correction. It is only MY assumption (not bodytalksystems.com) to assume that because of his battle death, he has had an interrupted life. And I'm assuming again because it seems to be the case, he has a lot more to learn than my other two kids. And you know what they say about assuming things...
Maybe those that fooled Billy started out with good intentions and only changed later in hopes of somehow profiting from the material? So in fact he was not wrong about them, only not able to see into the future. I'm not trying to judge anyone but it seems that some former representatives changed for their own reasons. And I think that you're doing a fine job, Michael, it most certainly can't be easy. And yes it's true, no one is perfect, we are all just striving to make sense out of things. Billy doesn't seem to make too many foolish decisions concerning people anymore, does he?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 316
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 07:28 am: |
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Hi Tobi, I don't understand what you mean, could you please explain it again?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Tobi
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 09:33 am: |
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justsayno,
I meant that i dont consider the body to be mine, but part of nature and the universal conciousness,in witch spiritforms evolve.
So it is not mine but creation deserves credit for it.
That your brain was found on the attick was a joke, i just meant that your way of thinking sheds no light on things for me inperfect as i am.
Tobi |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 463
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 05:48 pm: |
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If Billy had the ability to see one's true personality, he would not have allowed Randy Winters or George Green access to his place. Even the Plejarens were deceived by the thoughts of earth humans wherein it was found that we have this ability to think something and act completely differently.
Ultimately everything traces back and is part of Creational energy, but that does not mean we should disown our body and deny full responsibility of it. There is a reason that we evolve in our material life and for the same reason we are our body+spiritform+consciousness(hence personality) and not just spiritform+consciousness.
Salome.
Suv
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Tobi
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 05:11 am: |
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Smukhuti,
In my understanding the material realm is also part of the universal consciousness,
so i did not mean to disown myself, but great
that you mentioned the responsebility we have in our lives to learn and grow.
Tobi |
Tobi
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 08:11 am: |
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Smukhuti,
Die Schöpfung ist das unmessbare Geheimnis in unmessbarer Grösse schwebend.
Die Schöpfung ist gleichlautend mit dem Universalbewusstsein, das da lenkt und waltet im SEIN des Bewusstseins und als doppelspiralförmiges Eigebilde, das zugleich das Universum in seiner wachsenden Ausdehnung bildet, wobei die Doppelspiralarme pulsierend leben als geistige Energie und gegeneinander rotieren
Der Schöpfung innerer und äusserer Körper ist das Universum.
there is a difference between UNIVERSAL and the conciousness of the individual, i dont like to think i own things, it is more given to us as a tool for development ( we are not evolved enough to do without at the moment) lets say modesty and thankfullnes is more an atitude in live then this must be ownership.
Preis sei der Schöpfung
Tobi, being my not knowing all humble self
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Hi Tobi, please when quoting from any work, provide a reference to the source and location within that source -- title, page number, verse etc...
Robyn
(Message edited by indi on November 18, 2010) |
Phenix
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Post Number: 368
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 04:46 am: |
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Peace in wisdom be with you,
After the publication of their rather revolutionary and highly uplifting stance on human population - 'Anglicans Argue For Fewer Kids': http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/anglicans-argue-for-fewer-kids-20100509-ul6f.htm - , it looks like Australian Anglicans are willing to take a further, even more proactive step:
'Anglicans: We have to acknowledge and respond to population issues in order to care for life':
http://www.anglican.org.au/Web/Website.nsf/content/Commission:_Public_Affairs
(Media release 15 October 2010 by the Chair of the Anglican General Synod Public Affairs Commission, Professor John Langmore.)
A brief comment/introduction to this article on the Anglican Church's discussion paper on population by Mr. Mark O'Connor:
"The passing of a resolution on population by the Australian General Synod of the Anglican Church.
At a time when the Catholic church is so often in the news for appalling attitudes to population -- a result of all the liberal priests having left in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, so that extremists now run the show -- it is heartening to see the Anglicans making informed and moral observations about the need to reign in population growth.
The General Synod has now endorsed the viewpoint of its Public Affairs Committee, whose stance was briefly the subject of media comment about a year ago."
Excerpts from the article:
"The Anglican General Synod of Australia recently held its three-yearly meeting, at which a motion about the need to acknowledge and respond to population issues in order to care for life on our planet was warmly supported.
The Lambeth conference of bishops from the world-wide Anglican communion reaffirmed a decade ago that the divine Spirit is in Creation and human beings have a responsibility to make sacrifices for the common good of all life. This year the Public Affairs Commission of the Australian Anglican Church presented a discussion paper on population issues* which formed the basis for the attached motion recently passed by the national Synod.
The Synod has called on Anglicans to grow in understanding of global and national environmental challenges and the fundamental role of human population growth and consumption in contributing to them. It has encouraged individuals and the church to reduce their levels of consumption, and to contribute thoughtfully and prayerfully to public debate about how to achieve justice for future as well as current Australians and to nurture life on this fragile land with all its beauty and diversity. It emphasized the need to share in a world of finite resources, showing concern particularly for neighbours who live in the poorest two-thirds of the world.
The Synod recognized that the issues are so huge that political leadership towards a more sustainable future is essential, but that
major change cannot be achieved urgently unless the community speaks up and politically partisan approaches are put aside.
The Synod called on the Australian Government to avoid any reliance on population growth to maintain economic growth; to determine a sustainable population policy for Australia; to consider carefully any incentive aimed specifically and primarily at increasing Australia's population, while continuing to support low-income families; and to contribute more generously to improving the welfare of people in the least developed nations, and other life in their environments, in particular by including support for family planning and women's reproductive health programs with aid for development."
Salome. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1935
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 11:43 pm: |
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Hi Sheila and Michael....
You both give excellent insights.
Sheila, I would agree with your comment to Hector.
As far as I am familiar with, it can even be the case, if One's Spirit Level
is much more Highly Evolved, to access someone's Storage Bank. But this is
rare.
For example, Christian once mentioned that those so-called Clairvoyants are
just reading the Thoughts of a person, and nothing more. And in No Way having
access to anyone's Storage Bank, due to these so-called Clairvoyants being
Fake in the sense that they are not really what they say they are.
So, my take would be: that they have a capability to build a 'routine' within
their 'interrogation' type of question asking, if you will. And from there on,
they follow their own known pattern to make-up some scenario that fits the
individual concerning. Thus,they are manipulating you as they go along with
their questioning as YOU answer. So: he is NOT doing the work...but YOU, when
giving the answers. And he takes the credit for it, naturally.
Thus, you mentioning your practitioner...: can also be the case of just
Reading One's/your Thoughts, as mentioned by Christian. Which I would agree
also, with, and it's Logical stand point of view/manifestation.
So, we must Distinct, the both above mentioned ways of 'gathering' information
from an individual. The - Thoughts Reading - being quite Common...and the very
Rare accessing the Storage Bank(s); which is "NOT put away for everyone", as
the saying goes; which is related to a quite Highly Developed/Evolved
individual/Spirit-form.
And concerning your son:
If he has any recollection of events of his past incarnation, and told you of
this, say...what was it, when 5-6 years old(?), as is mentioned in the FIGU
materials, you could verify it to some point. At the mentioned age...it was
mentioned that a child has these recollections, and as he/she grows older,
they just go into the normal way of life as a child growing up into their
everyday life and the recollections just fade away.
Edward. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 152
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 11:47 pm: |
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Hi Edward and all,
Did Billy ever say how many true Clairvoyants there are in the world who can actually read other peoples thoughts, and nothing more? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2056
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 04:22 am: |
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We're getting off topic here  |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 464
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 08:56 am: |
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Here are some statistics that came out from the Global Index of Fear devised by King’s College in London:
http://www.fpalondon.org/attach.pl/888/265/King%27s%20Print%20FINAL%2029TH%20OCTOBER%202010%20(1050).ppt
It is worrisome to know that people across the world do not consider overpopulation as the biggest problem. War against terrorism takes the top spot, especially in those countries where the effect of this war is most. So convenient for the Government and the mainstream media to distract attention of the public from the real solve-or-perish issue and hide their failure in other areas.
Others, like the Chinese seem to be more practical, but still consider a symptom of overpopulation, over consumption and greed i.e. global warming as the biggest problem. May with its one child policy, people there feel that the problem is taken care of, but fails to look at the bigger picture around the world.
42% Indians consider overpopulation as the biggest problem in their own country, but when would Indian Government take a decisive step?
An amazing 35% Australians feel mental health is a challenge facing Australia!!!!
Salome.
Suv
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Darren
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Post Number: 293
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 03:34 pm: |
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Thats probably because Australia (the lucky country) doesn't have Overpopulation issues or many of the problems challenging the rest of the world. Its also the only 1st world country that hasn't gone into recession since the GFC. |
Joe
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 03:04 am: |
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Darren, I would have to disagree with you because Australia does have an overpopulation problem. The overpopulation there is in Australia might not be as evident as it is in other countries such as China and India but Australia, to a certain extent does have an overpopulation problem. |
Darren
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Post Number: 294
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 03:02 pm: |
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Joe, in what way does Australia have an overpopulated problem?
Australia is roughly the same size as China or India, but it has only a population of around 22 million. |
Hector
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Post Number: 628
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 05:50 pm: |
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Population density in Australia = 2.33 inhabitants/km2
Recommended by the Plejaren = 12 inhabitants/km2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia
This means according to the Plejaren Australia is NOT overpopulated. |
Darren
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 01:29 am: |
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correction - India is only half the size of Australia.
(I got it confused with China which is roughly same size as Australia.) |
Joe
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 11:39 pm: |
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Darren, just because Australia is comparable in size to China and India and with only a population of approximately 22 million inhabitants doesn't necessarily mean that in Australia there is no overpopulation because up to a certain extent there is an overpopulation problem although it's just not as evident as it is in other nations. What also has to be taken into consideration regarding Australia is that it's land is mainly made up of desert.
There are many nations that have 12 or less inhabitants/km2 but that doesn't necessarily mean that such nations should be totally exempt from reducing their population.
According to the Plejaren our Earth's population is well over 7 billion people so this list of countries by population density which states the Earth to have about 6.8 billion inhabitants is inaccurate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density |
Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 282
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 07:38 am: |
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Hi all,
While Australia is not overpopulated when calculating the available space, which is required for humans beings, farm land, natural land (untouched by human beings) etc Australia is still suffering from the affects of other countries overpopulation.
Australia exports goods, food, fuels etc to countries like Singapore and Hong Kong which are extremely overpopulated and rely almost solely on imports. Therefore Australia is not only trying to support its own (still growing) population but also the extreme demands of other overpopulated countries.
Another aspect of Australia is the building up of coastal areas. This is slowly destroying coral reefs and marine life aswell as life on land around costal areas.
Hence to say, overpopulation affects every country.
Salome
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Cpl
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Post Number: 538
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 08:36 am: |
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Australia has an arable land area--that area which the Plejaren use to calculate the population limit--of between 6.14% and 6.4% (depending on the source) of the total country area due to most of the country being bush and desert.
Taking the higher number, with a total area of 7,686,850sqkm that makes approximately 491,958sqkm of arable land for the populace to live on and from. With a population of 22 million people that makes about 44.72 people/sqkm. This is between three to four times (3-4x) the 12/sqkm density recommended by the Plejaren.
Going by these figures Australia is, unbelievable as it may seem to us living in the overpopulated states we do, very overpopulated.
Let me know if I have made any errors here.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Darren
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Post Number: 296
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 04:33 pm: |
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Did the P's say that Australia has an arable land area of between 6.14% and 6.4% ? This figure seems small/wrong to me. (see arid figure below) Australia has many Large National Parks, some bigger then some European countries. Most of these sit around the coast. Is this land discounted from the list of arable land (available space) in Oz?
Also much of these deserts and arid bushland sits on top of the Great Artesian Basin. Theres plenty water there if its ever needed one day. Has this also been taken into?
"The Great Artesian Basin provides the only reliable source of freshwater through much of inland Australia.[1] The basin is the largest and deepest artesian basin in the world,......"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Artesian_Basin
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Joe
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Post Number: 139
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 10:46 pm: |
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Darren, overpopulation is a global problem and should be dealt with on a global scale, including Australia. If a halt to all births isn't done then resources with become scarce and quite possibly lead to war. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1942
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 01:54 am: |
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Hi All...
Just last week I watched a documentary on National Geographic, and their view
of Global Overpopulation. Was not sure to post this, but...I thought just to
go on with it with the knowledge, that the doc reflected a similar scenario
which would occur according to what the Plejarans have mentioned concerning
our planet(; and as it did on other planets, in the past).
Do not know if any of you out there have seen it, yet?
But, the doc starts off with our planet housing 7.000.000.000 people.
And, through the course of time, which they took of about 50 years, the
population will be TWICE as much: 14.000.000.000 people.
Water will be very scarce, at least CLEAN water, and all inland population
will migrate to the cities! There will be no more 'family' residences(; say, a
family of 4-5 individuals) as we know it, which will be the past; and homes
will now house 3-4 times that much people per home.
And, naturally...FOOD will also become scarce. Due to water pollution, etc.
Bad irrogation, etc; meat products will also suffer due to this scenario.
Sounds like a typical Cannibalism scenario...if One wants to survive??[Was not
mentioned in the doc, just my input...]
The sky will be GRAY, due to the Pollution; the sun will barely be seen. And
of course, clashes of all kinds will manifest; people just trying to survive.
In the end, a Plague will break out and the population will be reduced to
about 4.000.000.000 people.
Not to forget: all the Corpses...which will be hard to get rid of; will just
as well contribute to this Plague; I would think, myself.
It was mentioned that Earth would Regenerate herself and all will turn green
and the waters will be clean once again, but still...the 4.000.000.000 people
would still have problems to survive, I would think? Seems, they do have to
start from 'scratch'?? And can they keep down the new births?? Birth Control
regulations would have to be implemented, I would think? Best not to repeat
the same scenario twice, no?
Perhaps, anyone on this board will soon see this documentary? Will be a rerun,
as it usually is on the Science Channels. As far as I know, this was a NEW
documentary. Have not seen it before.
This was just a summery in a nutshell.
Edward. |
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