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    Norm Member Post Number: 1399 Registered: 02-2000 |
A deliberately overlooked segment of overpopulation is over immigration. Most environmental organizations or even population control organizations will not touch the immigration topic at all. For fear of being labeled racist. For an example of this go to this Sierra group offshoot http://www.susps.org/ . In fact the population of the United States was on the decline in the 70's & 80's. I remember when I was in elementary school they merged our elementary school with another local one. I'm part of the post baby boom generation. In fact the year after I graduated high school. My high school merged with another local high school, because the numbers were so low. Now 27 years later they have expanded that high school and now the middle school because the numbers have grown again. Due to in part two over immigration and illegal immigration which has reversed those numbers. Watch this very interesting video on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE My Website | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1400 Registered: 02-2000 |
You try for instance to pass a population law in the USA. Christians would march in protest. That it's against the Bible. African-American leaders would cry its conspiracy to exterminate their race. New World order conspiracy theorists would claim it's all a scam by the worlds elite. Because they don't even believe in global warming. India would rather push their people overseas rather than try to enforce a law like China's. Until all the environmentalists start blaming overpopulation as the root source we will never win this battle until it's too late. My Website | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 469 Registered: 06-2009 |
Actually India is a big loser in the immigration game. Unlike some other nations which contributes tens of thousands of low to medium academic skilled "illegal immigrants" into developed countries, India contribute mostly highly educated portion of their populace into these developed countries under HSMP (Highly Skilled Migrant Program). These highly educated people then contribute in their adopted country while the Indian Government wags its tail in pleasure thinking that it is earning Foreign Exchange; completely forgetting that this section of the society (who often study at subsidised Universities) should be the most valued in their home country; and in the long run, their contribution in a still impoverished (and doomed) country would be better served. This is an odd case where immigration is indirectly harming the country where it is being originated. So even "legal immigration" can be bad for somebody. BTW, a couple of the major reasons as to why India would not enforce laws like China - a) A horrendously clumsy effort in implementing similar policies in 1976 which ultimately brought down the Government, and b) A large section of India's 150 mil odd and growing Muslims feel the same as African Americans in US. It comes from insecurity and mistrust – sometimes justified, sometimes not. Salome. Suv | ||
Burninsh New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2010 |
As im reading Eduards Meiers contact reports I repeatedly come upon extraterrestrials as Meier himself complain, about worlds overpopulation and increasing CO2 levels, and that eventual disaster is coming. However Eduard himself have three children himself how hypocritical is that, and jet hi talks that change has to come from every individual himself. So for that cause im having 0 children. So I want to make proposition. Extraterrestrials Plajerans should make a movie. Yes a movie on their own planet with their own people who would never come to this planet so their safe. Movie about OUR planet and how we are heading for doomsday scenario. National geographic educational style which include their planet their people and spectacular views in HD resolution and not with some crapy 70’ camera. So terrestrials and James Cameron would scrap their heads and think how the hell that’s possible. And upload movie on internet youtube, google video etc. And movie should not include Meier himself so he would not be overwhelmed with masses of people with stupid questions. It would spread like a virus. And if they’re refusing to do that then they should do what the do best, that is nothing, rather than sending telepathic impulses how to create beam ships to Hitlers team of engineers. And in general comment deleted off this planet and let us kill each other and let the nature balance itself so to speak . Because 99% of population are retards and don’t read books and Meier’s books are useless and doesn’t touches general population. So world war eliminating general population is logical consequence. If extraterrestrials doesn’t comprehend that then they doesn’t seem so intelligent for me earth ape. Or maybe they are playing mind games and experimenting on us like some kind of rats, watching us self destruct, then it all makes sense.  (Message edited by scott on December 18, 2010) | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 323 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Burninsh, interesting name you have there.... So if the Plejaren were to make a movie then all the earth humans would think that the Plejaren were gods coming to save earth humanity from themselves. History has already proven this method doesn't work. Telepathic impulses to Hitler's engineers are not the only impulses ever sent. They continue to this day for scientists and other personalities. So you feel that all earth humans should be eliminated because we're retarded? That would be a huge setback to our current evolution. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 583 Registered: 10-2008 |
Burninsh , I think it is a great gesture that you won't reproduce. Thank you SO much . | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1958 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Burninsh.... Welcome to the FIGU Board. To end Global Overpopulation, there are better and more Wise solutions than your mentioned - World War Eliminating -! I see, you have not yet really 'thoroughly' examined the Meier Materials, yet. The Plejarans, made very clear we implement - Live and Assist...to Live - factor, and not to neglected our fellowman. It is quite Unwise for you to mention that, of the Overpopulation here on Earth of 99% are Retards. These individuals, just as YOU are in need of the Meier Materials, as if you have read the Meier Materials, as you should you would know....that this too is a step-by-step process. The population have to SEEK for Themselves. But, does not mean that they are Retards, or Poptarts, whatever they are called these days. Thus: let us all take the most Positive, Peaceful and Harmonious Direct for all humans on Earth; and not yell...'impulsive'..: Retards. Thus, it would be best to implement your THINKING mode, than, to act within the framework of Impulsive (Thinkingless) action(s), Burninsh. The Meier Materials are based on the just mentioned Distinctions, mind you. Pleasant Studying... Edward. | ||
Burninsh New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2010 |
Markcampbell actually typing that zero I already knew that someone could make that kind of an insult, so im weirdly excited, but not surprised. Edward all of human thinking fully operates from lower brain or so called reptilian complex, which is responsible for aggression, self preservation, reproduction instincts. For example woman will choose men who are finically more stable to guarantee comfortable life for her newcomers. Men chooses woman who are more physically attractive because it’s coded into his biological organism to guarantee healthy newcomers. And you can see that being truth looking at how society works. First question when approaching woman ‘’what you do for a living’’, while answering man stares at woman’s boobs. And its just small example that everything what happens on this world economy, greed, wars, pornography, overpopulation, is due to reptilian complex working at his best. And now you want to tell me that every one should wear foil hats so cosmic energy go in their heads and join hands, jump around in circle and sing Kum bay ya. And that every one should get educated. You know what I get if try to talk about this with someone a smirk in their corner of mouths. People will not listen or act until something actually happen, and roof already falling on their heads or should I say they do not give a F. And that birth petition is laughable it should be printed on toilet paper so human right activists could wipe their a**. While we have democracy it won’t work, and I don’t even start talking about governments who is not interested in dealing with government budget where old people numbers increases as the expenses, and tax income from young working people decreases. And 1 child policy in China doesn’t quite work as expected people who are gaining more wealth these days pay off fine, and have second children. People who are poor live country side have 2-3 kids so they have more workers on farm, boys of course. Because girls in China is unwanted they are killed trough abortion, they are not so good investment and doesn’t help much when parents are old. Again self preservation, reptilian brain you can see this in every aspect of our life’s. So its quite unwise for you to not realize that Positive, Peaceful and Harmonious approach will lead right over the cliff, thus: human life have no value, as long individual holds higher value for itself. That’s why I don’t have any emotions left toward humanity and im ready to die for others foolishness; question is, are you ready? Well your adrenaline might shoot up, and your reptilian self preservation instincts might give you some unpleasant sensations, but it will go away luckily after you seize to exist. That’s something ‘’spiritual’’ to think about while going to sleep, of course if you’re not busy satisfy your animalistic needs with your girlfriend, wife or hand I don’t know, and after that wonder why world is overpopulated……… | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 132 Registered: 03-2007 |
Burnout, Your describing yourself in your 99% ratio with your ridiculous reptilian rants. http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_443 http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_034 Time to lay off the green dude. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 584 Registered: 10-2008 |
It wasn't an insult , but an expression of gratitude . By all means , continue to tell us what is and what isn't , and face whatever friendlessness that you generate for yourself . I know that I don't have to read your posts to know beforehand that they are all monotonic and full of malcontentment . | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 492 Registered: 06-2009 |
Burninsh, China claims to prevent 400 million birth through it's one child policy since 1979: http://www.chinatoday.com.cn/ctenglish/se/txt/2009-04/16/content_191083.htm 400 million is equivalent to the entire population of EU, which was prevented being added to its population. Yes, there are problems with the policy, but just numbers indicate at least partial success of this policy. The most effective way of controlling overpopulation is detailed in http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition and that has been tried and tested in various other planets suffering from overpopulation problem. War and genocide are never a solution to overpopulation - rather population control and subsequent move to within sustainability limit guarantees that everyone has enough and prevent war and genocide. Often questions are raised regarding Billy having 3 children and not 'leading by example'. The answer can be found in the above Birth stop petition, where people are allowed to have maximum 3 children. Even if you do an approximate calculation taking the worst case scenario of a large percentage of women of child bearing age plus above 28 having maximum 1 children during a 1 year birth with consent period, then having 2 more babies during subsequent 1 year birth with consent periods, and honor the 7 year worldwide birth stop periods in between, the effective population start to declines through natural attrition just during the first 7 year of birth stop itself. So it is still possible for every women to have 3 children maximum, and have a declining world population (i.e. if the 7 year cycle is followed). Can any of the current population control measure match that? It is unfortunate that this cycle is not followed on earth. Further, refer http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_2 53. In the first ten years of your marriage you will produce three children to whom you will give very old names. 54. You will name a girl Gilgamesha and two lads Atlantis Sokrates and Methusalem. 55. No more children will originate from your marriage as three offspring per marriage is the number of the terrestrial norm. Regarding change in median age/graying population with decline of population, that is inevitable with any kind of population control measure and is happening right now in Japan and other European countries. To have more babies who would later turn into taxpayers to support these graying population is a vicious cycle similar to a Ponzi scheme which can only bring doom to that said country. Also there is no reptilian part of human brain as you say but only "reptilian-delusional ideas" of certain people. Check out http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=11062#POST49991. Lastly, "..im ready to die for others foolishness...". Please see a psychiatrist as nobody with a healthy consciousness would willingly die for other peoples foolishness. Life is precious and each moment present an opportunity to learn. There are numerous articles published by FIGU on this subject. (Message edited by indi on December 24, 2010) Salome. Suv | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 838 Registered: 07-2004 |
Burned, I asked Billy about the so called 'Reptillian part of the brain' and he responded there is no such thing, as I had also thought. Your attempt at poisoning this site is obvious at best. Your comprehension regarding what is discussed here is lacking, and fully at that. Isn't knowing a subject important when discussing it? a friend in america Shawn | ||
Burninsh New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2010 |
>>Smukhuti<< By reptilian brain complex, I mean ‘’ basal ganglia ’’ and I don’t know why you want to connect me to that loon David Icke. Probably because you only think in framework of Billy’s contact reports. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_ganglia And what im tried to say is that people have no control over their basic human instincts that causes most of the problems over the world. + "..im ready to die for others foolishness...". I meant by that I have no anger towards somebody who drops atomic bomb on my head. I simply do not care anymore, because I know what causes it. Humans has no value on this world and they loosing it as population increases, the same as money loses value during inflation. >>Markcampbell<< I don’t care what you have to say either ;) Lasty i had and idea. Link between overpopulation and industrialiaztion of food production wich is based mostly on fuel, is obvous. And fuel is running out. So on youtube i run across this video about water fueled car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ3juM6vHwg Did Billy ever talked about revolutionary way to transform energy ? Becuse if we can’t change mindset of people much easier way is to make them all wealthy and energy independet, so as level of development, and individual independence rises money loses its value an tons of world conflicts would be solved. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 493 Registered: 06-2009 |
Burninsh, It's good that at least I was able to understand you when you wrote: "However Eduard himself have three children himself how hypocritical is that..." & "And 1 child policy in China doesn’t quite work as expected..." & "And that birth petition is laughable it should be printed on toilet paper so human right activists could wipe their a**." and gave you appropriate replies. "...of course if you’re not busy satisfy your animalistic needs with your girlfriend, wife or hand I don’t know, and after that wonder why world is overpopulated……… " - Suppressing sexual tension is damaging for the psyche. The Meier material does not discourage consensual sexual practices (within reasonable limit). Only the degenerate forms of sexual practice like bestiality and pedophilia are discouraged. In the modern age, we have so many forms of birth control, that controlling sexual urge while with girlfriend or wife is not an issue, only spread of knowledge of these birth control techniques and their proper usage matters. Just a few days back I was reading that in the medieval ages, people who had the knowledge of birth control techniques, were labeled as witches and hunted down. Again, because this is a forum to discuss the Meier material and FIGU, I have to think of some material supporting that, and so I would point you to the article published in the FIGU Special Bulletin 54 which underlines how the Church erected the foundation stones of present day overpopulation. You can run a translation engine on that link, or learn German. "I meant by that I have no anger towards somebody who drops atomic bomb on my head." - You would not have a chance for displaying anger, as you would be instantly vaporized, along with tens of thousands to tens of millions around you, depending upon the population density of the region and the yield of the blast. Salome. Suv | ||
Sanjin Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 06-2009 |
Burnish, I am no evolutionary scientists, but looking at a paleontological tree of vertebrates like the one shown in this link, you can see that humans have not evolved from reptilians and we don't have any reptilian genes or body parts in us. It is just an idiotic excuse to not take control over one's actions and body, and is basically a disease for your mind. I searched through the link of the Basal ganglia and found nothing that mentions any reptiles. What you contribute to the "reptilian complex" has absolutely nothing to do with it. Consider that those male-female mating rituals and preferences are there to ensure evolution and survival. A woman's beauty is often an indicator of good genes and the wealth of a male is usually an indicator that the offspring will have a better chance of survival. Love makes the world go round. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 456 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello to everyone Great news! National Geographic magazine January 2011 Edition main theme is: "Population 7 Billion How your world will change" Apart from BBC´s documentary: "How Many People Can Live on Planet Earth?" This is the first time i see the Overpopulation theme discussed in the massive media. Definitely a good sign. Salome | ||
Jamesm Member Post Number: 168 Registered: 02-2006 |
You can read the new National Geographic article on overpopulation here: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/01/seven-billion/kunzig-text Regards James G. T. Moore Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 457 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello James i read the article some days ago, i think it is not so good, but at least they touch the subject (which is something most media don´t do even with a 2 meter long pole), supposedly the N.G. magazine will publish more articles related to the population issue through the whole year, let´s hope this will have a positive effect in other media and they will begin to talk about this. Salome | ||
Christian Moderator Post Number: 213 Registered: 02-2000 |
The Catastrophe takes its unimpeded course! On New Year's Day 2011, we received from the Plejaren (Ptaah and Quetzal) the actual population number by December 31, 2010 (midnight): 8'102'716'701 human beings! When compared with the 7'684'489'285 human beings on December 11, 2007, this means an increase of 375'325 human beings per day, respectively 4.34 human beings per second! When compared with the 7'503'846'002 human beings on December 31, 2005 (midnight), there results an increase of 328'148 human beings per day, respectively 3.8 human beings per second. This means that the increase rate has accelerated! Human insanity, and the height of irresponsibility! – Especially in light of the fact that the terrestrial bureaus of census and demography statistics are estimating the number of the actual human population on Earth more than one billion/milliard too low! And what is done against this catastrophe by those in charge, the responsible persons in governments and the heads of religions and sects? NOTHING AT ALL!!! Christian Frehner (January 2, 2011) | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 492 Registered: 05-2008 |
Christian, is there any breakdown by country/region/continent? If what I read is true, that there is a negative birth/death rate in 20 countries http://geography.about.com/od/populationgeography/a/zero.htm then somewhere we are breeding like rats. | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 369 Registered: 07-2008 |
Peace in wisdom be with you, Thanks for the update, Christian; may reason and humanness indeed prevail. For those who are willing and able to contribute to the overpopulation awareness efforts in an organized fashion, the registration for the annual initiative of Population Institute/Population Media Center, called 'Global Population Speak Out', is open: http://www.populationspeakout.org/ A choice of language(s) is also available. Salome, Adam - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 635 Registered: 04-2006 |
Wow Christian, that is extremely negative news, increase was expected, but not so fast. We are on direct collision course with all kind of disasters and catastrophes. It seems like the Saalome Peace Meditation has brought about good results in terms of easing geopolitical tensions, but the main problem, overpopulation, cannot be faced by Figu and Figu members/friends alone. It demands a certain consciousness "waking up" by millions/billions of human beings....But millions/billions of human beings still think that overpopulation IS NOT a huge problem. Billions of human beings in this planet tackle the overpopulation problem with apathy and indifference, as well as their political representatives. I admit that I have run out of ideas. I do not know what more could we Figu friends worldwide do in order to try to reverse this tendency. At this point of human history (2011), politicians and representatives must involve themselves in this fight. At this point of human history human beings are not used to think for themselves, but to rely on other politicians, gurus, scientists, famous people, role models, religious leaders etc.....These "representatives" have to tackle the overpopulation problem. Otherwise overpopulation cannot be reversed, at least not in the next three or four decades. (And at that point it will be too late). Saalome | ||
Christian Moderator Post Number: 214 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Earthling, No, there is no breakdown of the numbers to different countries etc. But what the numbers show is that the different censi (plural of census?) in many countries (if there is a census at all), are showing severe shortcomings. And I guess that it is also quite probably that many governments are falsifying the result of a census. Frankly, if one considers the political and social situation in many countries (Africa, Asia, South Amrica, etc.) it is more than doubtful that the authorities are capable or willing to record the number of people in their country. Besides, there are so many mega cities growing like a cancer; how should anyone be in control of the population increase. |
