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Stephen_moore
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Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings all

News posted today on Yahoo

Asteroid impact warning to the world
Experts are calling on the world to recognise the "global threat" of an asteroid hit to earth.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20101030/twl-asteroid-impact-warning-to-the-world-41f21e0.html

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Something positive. I hope it does some good.

Salome
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephen....


I have seen a number of docs in which even one of the astronauts(not sure if
it is the one mentioned in the article...?) had some ideas of averting the
trajectory of an incoming PHA(Potentially Hazardous Asteroids).

Just as a number of other scientists working on this problematique, from
averting the asteroid's trajectory with the Solar Winds...in such case a large
umbrella is unfolded which should catch the Solar Winds...and off goes the
asteroid! With some gigantic 'claw' grabbing the asteroid, to mention. Or,
even a gigantic reflector umbrella, which 'reflects' the sun's rays...similar
to that of a magnified glass...which should burn into the asteroid and avert
it's trajectory. Or, an immense claw grabbing the asteroid....and the rockets
attached to it...directing it in an other trajectory.

NUKES: are out of the question! They mentioned, which was also the Plejarans
take on this scenario. Explosions, at some - distance - would be the most
appropriate scenario, as what I even mentioned once...: Compression
Detonations. Which can....avert the trajectory(: air-pressure Outward).

But, all-in-all: there are individuals working on this scenario.

The ideas are excellent...BUT....will they succeed in Practice? Still, a
question they too...ponder on. And will they be on time? Yes, TIME is of great
importance, here...


Edward.
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did Billy/Plejaren ever gave the reason why Apophis asteroid was called as "Red Meteor" ?

Check out this link, you can see the impact, a outerspace object can do when it hits earth
http://www.purdue.edu/impactearth
What a thing is relationship, if we closely observe, relationship is much more subtle, more swift than lightning, more vast than earth, for relationship is life - Jiddu Krishnamurthy
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam....


As far as I know, is, that the Red Meteor is related to the impact in the
region of the Baltic Sea up to the Black Sea.

Am not sure, to say, Billy/Plejarans have given Apophis the related name? I
need, memory refreshing for that; I could have read that before(?).

Both can be very destructive, of course, and their impact calculations may
differ. The Baltic and Black Sea being hit (Directly) by the Red Meteor and
Apophis slightly entering within the Moon's trajectory, and due to certain
circumstances of influence may pull/gravitate towards Earth(?).


Edward.
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was discussed before in this forum.
Salome.
Suv
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have known that SUV, but did we get a confirmation for that from Plejaren;may be the "red" label given explains much more than that..
What a thing is relationship, if we closely observe, relationship is much more subtle, more swift than lightning, more vast than earth, for relationship is life - Jiddu Krishnamurthy
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Speedbirdengineer
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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PROOF OF THE EARTH GOING INTO A HIGHER DIMENSION BY 2012.....FLORIDA WAS ONCE THE NORTH POLE BEFORE THE DESTRUCTION OF DESTROYER COMET......( as indicated BY THE PLEJAREINS....


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110107/sc_yblog_thelookout/florida-temporarily-closes-runway-due-to-magnetic-pole-shifting
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The idea that Earth is "going into a higher dimension by 2012" is, like all of the "Ascension" talk, a bunch of New Age nonsense. Look around, what direction do you see things headed in?
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Ramirez
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ascension is a reality Michael .... at least the ascension of debt which keeps going up up and away like inflation, pollution and yes .... population.
Cheers.
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Stephen_moore
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,

I know my post is off topic but I wish to give my thoughts on the above 2 posts by Speedbirdengineer and Michael Horn.

From what I understand from the Meier/Plejaren material is that dimensions do exist but are the same as time space configurations. The Plajares is in a different time space configuration to the Sol system. If my memory is correct is about 1 second difference.

Therefore if the Earth was to change dimension or have a dimension shift it would mean that the whole of the Sol system would have to move from its current position in the Material Belt into a new position. Whether this is possible or not I dont know. If the Earth itself changed dimension then it would have to leave its current orbit around our sun and travel light years to a new position in the Material Belt.

The above two scenarios are not happening and nothing pertaining to this is mentioned in the Meier material, to my knowledge. Ascension comes from the religious belief that the "chosen ones" of god believers will ascend to a new paradise or something like that. Something which is truly never going to happen as there is no god.

Sorry for the off topic post.

Salome
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello's and Happy New Years to all,

A friend of mine was one of three speakers (each scientists, physicists) at CPAK a couple of months ago in Orange County, California. One of the topics was The Great Year (YouTube search this to view the documentary).

These scientists believe that our sun is also a binary as the great majority of the stars are part of a binary system. Some stars are part of more than two stars and some are single.

The documentary will explain their theory and their evidence in support of it. It is interesting as they are not coming at this from your typical archeological ignorance (archeologists are known to suppress findings because they don't comply with the Newtonian expectation).

The documentary is narrated by James Earl Jones.

Eddie
[7:-)
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Speedbirdengineer
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is true that this corrupt world is still existing, but it is also awakening with a small bunch of people who are trying to increase their consciousness levels. So Mr Horn, as Quetzel (or Ptaah) had told Billy a few years ago, that his small group which is responsible to spread the spiritual teachings, is a small step to the future, and which will start the snowballing of world awareness into spirituality, the same way this small group (enlarging day by day) of people mentioned above are doing just the same. I know it is a desperation for Mr Horn to see no good effect happening in this world, but slow and steady wins the race-at least its starting in a certain direction. There are many who make money out of spirituality stunts, but THERE ARE many too who are geniune. Billy would be the best bet to ask about ascention, him being with the himalayan masters in India a wee while ago. So the word is not a fallacy. As for the dimensions are concerned, it is a basic vibratory frequency that matter vibrates with, whether it be your car, or your body, or a plant or a bird or a dog. It is common sense why the Plejareins do not mingle with the earthly worms-their vibratory frequency is higher than ours and negative vibrations are detrimentory to their own vibrations. Higher spiritual consciousness increases ones own vibratory frequency, so instead of being pessimistic, if one can put an effort to believe that humanity now is trying to increase its collective consciousness levels, there will be a time when the collective vibratory frequency of the world will increase and consequently transit into a higher dimension. This is not Rocket-science, but a simple basic law of Metaphysics. The sages and spiritual Masters in India knew this concept eons ago. Be positive- only losers give up. Thats why i have a lot of respect for Mr Meier- he has got the fighting spirit, and the attitude that things will improve, even if it had nearly made him bankrupt,and had cost him his life. I think he is a living example people should take, intead of bitching about the negativities of the world.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The utter nonsense about "Ascension" and entering a "higher dimension", "fourth dimension", etc. is contradicted in this:

http://www.theyfly.com/2012.htm

It's clear that this is all just warmed over Christianity, not connected in any way with the idea of self-responsibility, and just more fantasy and delusion. Neutral-positive thinking is preferred over just positive thinking and, actually, there's no rational thinking whatsoever connected to foolishness.
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Speedbirdengineer
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Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is said in the end part of the 476th contact is aboulutely true. But
one forgets too that there are innumerable organisations,selfless
entrepreneurs,& individuals who are fighting tooth-and-nail for the causes
of deforestations,environment,global warming,poverty in 3rd world countries,cruelty,
testing upon & killing of land and sea animals, birds etc,overpopulation
control,nuclear dis-armamation,pollution etc etc. What they are trying is
to bring an awareness & consciousness changes in humans, and they are steadily
succeeding. Therefore the deeper-meaning of a higher dimension is "an increase in collective consciousness,(electro-magnetic vibrations of Creation)". Just as Jesus' words were delinquently mis understood and twisted around, there are many who will neither
understand or comprehend the meaning of higher dimension, where the
analogy remains the same.And one can have either positive, neutral or
negative attitude towards anything,and not neutral-positive, where the
ambiguity shows equally stupid to what it sounds.If these people with certain
missions and goals for the betterment of humanity do not have positively charged
attributes,they should quietly step-aside and let the deserving ones handle the
job. Earth will suffer tremendously for humanity's past stupidities, but a stitch in
time,can still save nine.Thats what Billy & the Plejareins and all the above mentioned
entities are trying for.Good on them!!!!
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Scott
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Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please let's get back to the topic heading
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regarding:

"Just as Jesus' words were delinquently mis understood and twisted around..."

You may want to familiarize yourself with...Jmmanuel and his words, so that they are not...misunderstood, etc. Since you are referring to the Meier/Plejaren information you will find that there was no "Jesus" to misunderstand.
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are no higher dimensions, but only other dimensions. Dimensions are other space time configurations, and that is it's true definition. Even if average evolution of our consciousness increases dramatically due to knowledge and practice of the spirit teaching, earth would not be shifted to some other space time configuration.
Saalome.
Suv
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Edmundo
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 05:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some news about possible new planet in our solar system:

http://www.newswarped.com/2011/02/new-planet-tyche-four-times-bigger-than-jupiter/

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Excerpt from CR 476:

"Billy:
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Besides all this, the year 2012 brings other unpleasant events, like e.g. an unknown, invisible, dark and huge space wanderer that is threatening from the fringe of our solar system and could wreak tremendous havoc regarding Earth. And if this should really occur, the fact of its existence would be openly proven starting with 2010 or 2011, if at all, because the possibility of a "dark" and, therefore, non-observable passage of the colossus is also possible.
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Starr
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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2011 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think from my understanding now is that our contact with E.Ts is one where we humans have been cruelly treated, including from our own, and now in our time of need we will be abandoned? I felt hope when I first started looking into Pleidian contacts with mankind, But knowing that we have nearly no time left until the brown dwarf or whatever it is kills most if not all of us in a nasty and terrifying way, And hearing how the Pleiadians are speaking of NO god (though my belief was always that god was ALL and in no way a religious concept) and also how they are leaving us now to the distructive fate, I feel actually quite depressed.
Abandoned in our time of need seems most appropriate I think. Considering we have been interfered with by E.Ts since the begining. the message is what then? LOVE? Hmmm I guess I should prepare to die and forget about our loving friends coming to help. I think Billy seems like a lovely person......I wonder what the good in our contact is at all if ALL the P's want to do is to contact one human who at best is reluctant to carry the P's message forward.( No offense Billy).
We are not ALL evil on this planet, some of us are loving, supportive and caring. but that obviously accounts for nothing. If we are being left alone then I guess there is little point looking upwards anymore with excitment and hope.
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Earthling
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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2011 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Starr .. don't be so easily discouraged, negative, giving up .. part of their message is self-reliance, self-dependence, self-responsibility .. iow, don't depend on a god, good natured aliens, your government, or anyone to come to your rescue .,. take it(life) in your own hands(control)

please keep studying the material ... don't depend on others to spoon feed you ... all your concerns are well addressed
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Kingman
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Starr,

Welcome to our English FIGU forum.

With a little bit of thought, one can realize that we have adequate technology to render the Red Meteor harmless. There is no need for us to be spoon fed here. Cooperation between nations is the key to creating a program that will focus on the challenge and move the danger elsewhere.

Your post sounds very 'poor me' in its totality. And Billy is in no way reluctant in bringing the message to mankind. He is just a master at controlling his emotions, and at reading other individuals, that he is able to maneuver situations to the desired place with these skills, even when it appears as if he's been defeated. So where ever you may have created your impression of Billy from read it again you may discover bits and pieces of his mastery of the human psyche.

Have a nice day!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Sitkaa
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 04:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Starr,

Your sentiments sound familiar to me. No matter that they are depressive, they are your sentiments, and similar to those of so many other people who are still digesting the Meier/Plejaren material. It can be a difficult pill to swallow: there is no god, the universe lacks altruistic guidance and ultimate positive purpose, and on and on. It can be difficult to come to grips with how the Plejaren show up, enlighten us a little bit, and then leave us to our own catastrophic fate. It easy for me to understand why such thoughts and concerns might even be so overwhelming that they drive people back into relatively fantastical worldviews, discounting what the Plejaren and Billy Meier say.

I wish I had the answers for you, to assuage these concerns, allay your fears, smooth your path. But I don't. We are facing a bumpy ride, with much of the most unnatural degeneracy human beings can muster. We are likely to survive our initial bumps in the road, although only by growing towards the truth of things abit, and move on into realms even more unsavory than what faces us right now, if the Prophecies of Henoch provide any foresight. When, if ever, will we learn (and what)?

Perhaps it would help to transitively consider that 'God' is no single being, but rather a perspective, wholistic and maleable, with an origin founded on love, this perspective being one towards which we are all growing. We will continue growing, becoming more aware, developing more insights and more understandings, and of course feeling more love, lifetime through lifetime through lifetime through lifetime, until lifetimes are no longer necessary, and then we continue growing even more. In light of this, that our current lives have a potentially short and tragic expiration date is of relatively minor consequence.

The Plejaren have learned over the course tens of thousands of longer lifetimes that they should follow the Universal Creational Laws as best they can discern them if their society and their individual lives are to move forward smoothly, creatively. They follow this regimen in much of their consideration of what to do with Earth. It seems that their hope is that we learn from their example. We face some problems here on Earth, but they do not see them as insurmountable, only that we are failing to address them.
Fur leben.
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Starr
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> [ Hello friend=2C =20 I know it seems as if I am easily discouraged but I'm not=2C My last mess= age no doubt sounded quite negative....I am aware of this=2C I always ask q= uestions about any info I see or recieve to hopefully find the truthfulness= in the message if it contains truth. I have had dreams of E.T encounters t= hroughout my life and have seen some unusual things indeed=2C easpecially i= n my younger days in New Zealand so I have been drawn to the subject. I hav= e gone through some of Billy's vids and it had the strange effect of puttin= g alot of the Jigsaw pieces together=2C I spent earlier days involved in wi= tchcraft and high magik ceremonies and is interesting how the magickal word= s correspond with the info Billy has given. =20 I have had for many years believed that the creator was ALL and not some li= mited religious lie=2C I don't follow any religious belief=2C I understand = how other beings played a major role in conquering and enslaving mankind=2C= (Where many of our beliefs stem from) but this is why I don't understand w= hy there is not more 'Mateship' or 'help' in our developement in one form o= r another=2C To ensure we overcome dangerous hurdles in our path=2C I know = there is some higher law that apparently is meant to prevent outside interf= erence in our developement but to me it sounds as if that golden rule has b= een violated on many an occasion=2C I have NO judgement in saying that towa= rd anyone either but why weren't more people considered to carry forward a= positve message to the world. =20 If I visited Earth I wouldn't want anything to do with our corrupt and prim= itive thinking governments either=2C change starts with the people=2C I con= sider our society much like the movie matrix where we are plugged into a ma= ssive computer and kept sleeping=2C Our world economy and and Mother Earth = cannot sustain this anymore=2C I think we all need to wake up and discover = the truth. I feel as a human I have gained an learned so much in my time he= re and I always try to encourage others to wake up and seek the truth. =20 I regards to the Killer Astroid/ Brown Dwarf or whatever it is.....I have m= uch frustration in sourcing ANY truthful matter on the subject as there is = so much bulls**t flying around on the internet about all subjects=2C the tr= uth gets lost in a sea of fear or religious dooms day theories. I know some= thing is on it's way but I have no accurate clue on the truth of this=2C I = know the damage it could inflict=2C I know many folk are scrambling to buy = and build bunkers......A waste of time I think because IF it had such a cat= astrophic effect on our planet=2C what would they be emerging from their bu= nkers to? A failing food chain=2C death/destruction and chaos=2C and possib= ly an ice age? hmmmmm. that'd so not be worth it. I live in Western Austral= ia which isn't particularly high land=2C I can only "hope" that I can dodge= the bullet and that it is not as bad as predicted. =20 I do have hope=2C I am positive and I do believe in mateship and hopefully = positive interaction with ET's=2C There are many of us that have alot to of= fer and a deep desire to learn more about the bigger picture. Sorry about m= y typo's. =20 =20 Peace and friendship guys. ]

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