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    Michael Horn |
It seems to be coming more and more in alignment with what Ptaah told Billy: http://www.ultrahiq.net/Ubiquity/UbiQSum01/PartIII/PartIII.html | ||
BW |
Hello, Concerning TWA flight 800.It would be no great surprise to find the US government/military covering up it's mistakes no matter who it affects.But how is it that Billys contact Ptaah could have knowledge of the military mistaking the flight for a ufo? | ||
Michael Horn |
Here's the latest on, hopefully, the un-coverup: CNN Reverses Itself - Reinvites Cashill To Present TWA 800 Evidence From James Sanders james.d.sanders@worldnet.att.net 7-27-1 Thanks to the intervention of AIM's Reed Irvine, friends of the truth within CNN, and hundreds, if not thousands, of angry emailers, CNN has reinvited Jack Cashill to be back on The Point with Greta Van Susteren. Barring the unforseen, the show will air on Thursday, August 2 at 8:30 PM EDT. Cashill and James Sanders created SILENCED, the video that has opened America's eyes to the most brazen cover-up of our time. For breaking news and to order the video, please see Friday's edition of worldnetdaily.com. | ||
Michael |
Well it looks like there might be an un-coverup coming. In an article on WorldNetDaily.com and Rense.com today titled,TWA 800 Coverup - Someone Has Finally Talked! there is the following paragraph: When Pierre Salinger, at a press conference in March 1997, declared that TWA Flight 800 had been shot down accidentally by a U.S. Navy missile, this former presidential press secretary, U.S. Senator and ABC News correspondent, was mercilessly attacked by his former colleagues. We all know that Billy was told the whole story by Ptaah during his 258th Contact on February 20, 1997. Michael | ||
Thomas C Turk |
The missile on video was a drone for testing the electron beam gun at the Naval Research facility. 800 was running late and FAA did not inform the Navy. 800 simply got in the way when they pressed the fire button. The airway goes right through the testing area. Post mortems revealed microwaved humans in the 800 galley area, ie blood boiled etc, and all aircraf analogue instruments stuck in 'time'. Wreckage still under armed guard in Long Island hangar. enterprisemission.com for info. BTW on this site you will also see the Nasa photos of Mars previous inhabitations... ties in nicely with Billy M. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 327 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear forum I mean, how trigger happy are they, we are talking about 230 human lives here. So much for modern military technology and yet TWA 800 was just one passenger plane following it's intended course and yet the 4 passenger 767, 757 domestic planes which veered off course were simply ignored in 9/11. http://www.figu.org/us/ufology/index.htm then press contact notes followed by 258th. http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash4/twa800.htm | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 05-2008 |
A guy I recently met is doing some computer work for me. He was in the US Navy and was aboard a navy ship in the vicinity of TWA flight 800 the night it fell out of the sky. He said after any events, procedure calls for making copies of all tapes. This evening his commanding officers immediately came down to the computer room and demanded all tapes and said not to copy them. I sent him this link http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash4/twa800.htm and asked him for his thoughts. He replied as follows. ===================================== I have read this conversation...here are my thoughts. Ptaah seems to imply that the Navy shot this plane down because we couldn't identify it. No commander I've ever seen acts with great haste to destroy an Unidentified object, just off coastal waters. I remember chasing an oil smuggler off the coast of Iran. An Iranian chopper decided to hover just over our ship. It's basically a game, they don't believe we will shoot them down..and we won't. We sat there at general quarters, ready to shoot a missile, but the Captain never gave the order to do so. We are not supposed to get that close to our ship. That Iranian chopper would have had the first shot before our ship reacted. No captain wants to be the first one to start a war....or shoot down a plane by mistake. I think they would err on the side of caution, especially so close to the mainland...we have no threats on this side of the Atlantic... Once again, any ship/sub which fires a missile instantly has about several hundred people who know about it. I don't think that's possible to keep quiet. It's always possible a missile came from a jet, ....you can keep one pilot quiet....but that would be on the tapes of more than one ship..and the SPY operators of the ships would have noticed. Those radar tracks would have been relayed to the Tao (tactical action officer) and then all of Combat Systems would know..nope...couldn't keep that quiet either and I am friends with many of the Aegis computer and spy operators on various ships within that 300 mile limit. Could be experimental missiles from our friends the Russians. They do try out their new weapons..anti tank ect...in Iraq. It's kept quiet for the most part though..and they wouldn't do it so close to the United States I don't think they would have anything to gain from testing it on a civilian airliner either. A lot of people said they said a streaking object coming from below the plane, however, Most people will tell you lightning comes out of the sky and heads toward the ground, when in fact, Lighting starts from the ground and goes up. hmmmm.. those reports are really unreliable...I don't trust them. I don't know what brought it down..and I think the waters have been so muddied..that we'll probably never know. For what it's worth though...I don't trust our government either. It's more concerned about power than the liberties of it's people. I can't even begin to imagine the types of things that go on and are covered up..things we will never know about. For what it's worth.. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1108 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** Hello Earthling, Thank you for that post, the response from your friend formerly in the US Navy. He is correct about a lot of the details in his response, even more so where he said this: ... [ "I don't know what brought it down..and I think the waters have been so muddied..that we'll probably never know. ... don't trust our government either. It's more concerned about power than the liberties of it's people. I can't even begin to imagine the types of things that go on and are covered up..things we will never know about."] -- Can I hear an "Amen" to that.! I was also in the US Navy as a Nuclear Reactor Operator during the VietNam War. (Don't ever forget, it WAS a War, with over 50,000 of our young Men dead, and another 200,000 seriously wounded). On any ship, all highly skilled Technicians tend to hang-out together. I had friends in the CIC (Combat Information Center) and in the Missile Launch Center on board. My ship was the USS Bainbridge DLG(N)-25, a twin-reactor nuclear powered Guided-Missile Heavy Destroyer. We ran anti-submarine and air-screen cover for the USS Enterprise (also Nuclear powered with 8-reactors), so we were always out ahead of this carrier as she launched strikes into 'Nam. Now, the first duty of our ship, was - protect the Enterprise at all costs, - in other words, shoot first and sort em out later. We did have to shoot down MiGs and any other bogies coming out from the coast, and did so sight-unseen at around 80-miles distant. Sometimes, our own planes had been shot-up above 'Nam and lost their all-important IFF, which is the encoded Identification-Friend-or-Foe transponder. Those were bogies to us, so we shot them down as well, which we learned after the fact when the choppers went out to find them. This information was withheld from any public news. Friendly-Fire deaths of our own pilots and jets were simply swept under the rug. There are other things hidden from the public, which I will not go into here. To get to "why" TWA-800 WAS shot down, you have to know WHO on board was a threat to WHOM. 'Nuff said ***** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 321 Registered: 06-2008 |
Greetings conspiracy and cover up bloodhounds. Here is the passenger and crew list including some comments on the page about "interesting" passengers. http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/PASSENGERS.html Then in Contact Report 258 further information. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_258 From what I understand civilian aircraft of this type have 2 transponders (primary & backup) so are continually broadcasting their identification plus a 747 must be unmistakable to a radar operator or automated tracking systems particularly the highly sophisticated ones aboard an Aegis class vessel. Cheers. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2009 |
Come on, Rod, don't keep us hanging  . Who was on board? | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1111 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** * Hi Justsayno, Read Ramirez' post 321, above * *** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Jgarbush Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 09-2009 |
Every time I look at a new subject I learn so much. Here's a great documentary video regarding what really happened on TWA 800. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7552065575091502192&ei=Wv33SsyCPYuwq AP2vem8CQ&q=twa+flight+800&hl=en&view=2&dur=3 | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2009 |
Sorry Rod, Ramirez's post had not appeared yet when I posted. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2009 |
Thank you Ramirez, very well explained by Ptaah. Thirteen years later we are still hearing about cover ups by all governments. I checked the Aegis, funny that there are no records of the FM-1 launch which would have happened between the FTR-1a on Jan. 25, 2001 and the FM-2 on Jan. 25, 2002. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1113 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** Best Greetings all, Peace Be With You Well, This clears it up very much ... as we know, Ptaah will only speak Truth. Truth, as it was said in the movie: A Few Good Men, "You can't Handle the Truth." WE can "handle" Truth here, though our gov'mints are unwilling to tell any Truth. As Ptaah said in Contact 258: ... [ "61. The truth is that the U.S. Navy shot an attack missile on their airplane where it was met by this and brought to an explosion. [ "64. To our knowledge, an espionage-engaged person was on the airplane and was carrying important data that had been stolen from the American Secret Service." ] Now, this same Secret Service, knowing this Spy was onboard TWA-800, could have simply waited at the destination Airport for that plane to land, told the Captain to taxi to a secure area, then send some agents into the plane to remove the Spy and all his belongings before letting the rest of the passengers get off. What they did instead -- MURDERED OVER 230 INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS to get that one Spy. Can you spell: Corrupt Abuse of Power.!!! (PS. No Problem Justsayno. Your interest is appreciated) Peace ***** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 313 Registered: 05-2008 |
Rod ... you go on about the truth, yet you misconstrue Ptaah's words to imply that TWA 800 was shot down to silence some spy, when in fact Ptaah's investigation yielded that TWA 800 was mistakenly identified as a UFO and shot down for that reason, and not because some spy was on board. ================ 69. Whether this missile was consciously launched because of this espionage person, in order to bring them to silence this way, is only one possibility because another possibility is taht it was all a tragic accident, though it is certain beyond a doubt that the U.S. Navy did launch the missile. 70. However, there is another possibility that we must also take into account, that the airplane was recorded and spotted on the radar of the U.S. Navy as a so-called "UFO", whereupon the mistaken launching of the rocket took place. 71. And we must take this possibility exactly into consideration even sooner, just as with the espionage-activity person. 72. However, I can report to you nothing further about it still but must wait what the investigations of Florena's Group yields who are handling everything in this connection. ---------------------- 6. Now, our supposition regarding the circumstances of the crash of TWA Flight-800 on the 17th of July 1996 in the area of Moriches Bay was correct. 7. The cause of the disaster was a rocket-missile from the U.S. Navy that erroneously positioned the aircraft on its equipment as an unknown, foreign missile and identified therefore as a UFO whereupon the command went out to launch this missile without excuse because through ihe haste and great carelessness the airplane was classified as an unknown flying object and in certain respects the national security of the USA had supposedly been threatened. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 10-2009 |
The bigger truth seems to be that NORAD(?) does in fact "shoot to kill" ANY and ALL UFO's. That is seriously disturbing to me. Makes me wonder if that meteor I saw last November, really was a meteorite because it came down over two military bases. (P.S. Rod - I mean no disrespect in any way, shape or form and I really love what you have to say sorry if I'm a little abrupt) Peace Sheila | ||
Johnnybalmain Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2007 |
I would'nt be surprised if certain secret agencies have the ability to insert a false reading into a radar reading to cause a desired result. Peace John | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 322 Registered: 06-2008 |
Use your common sense please. A Boeing 747 which is a huge huge plane takes off from the airport .... yes. So it's identification transponder is functioning correctly and the airport radar is satisfied that indeed this aircraft is TWA 800 so continues to track it out to sea. This data would be recorded and available for investigation. Then mysteriously an Aegis class vessel which carries the worlds most sophisticated ship borne radar and tracking systems "mistakenly" identifies a Boeing 747 with it's identification transponder broadcasting that this aircraft is TWA 800 and subsequently someone on board the naval vessel orders a missile launch which the officer of the watch, presumably the captain authorizes without contacting other ground based radars for verification or asking the air force to send over an F16 or F15 patrol to investigate ???? Come on, get real. Who in their right mind would fire on something as big as an office block flying 500 knots in a direction away from the US during peacetime a few miles off the US coast in clear daylight. If an analysis of other commercial traffic in the area on that day was made how come the same Aegis class vessel or others weren't shooting down every jumbo that flew past ? The plane was flying inside a well defined commercial - passenger corridor used daily by probably scores of aircraft. Just like 9/11. Two planes, three buildings fall down .... sure everyone believes it. Cheers. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1114 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Earthling, You are correct, I was wrong in my statement. My mistake was that I had not read the complete text of the Contact 258 Notes when I posted. I do apologize for this unintentional error. However, and not to contradict Ptaah, but we do know that the Plejarens sometimes don't tell us everything, and sometimes one truth hides behind another truth. I have to agree with Ramirez here = Warships of the US Navy CANNOT MIS-Identify a civilian Airliner for a UFO. As a former Nuclear-Electronics Specialist in the Navy myself, even back in the 60s we could ALWAYS tell the difference, unless a plane's IFF had been already shot-up, which certainly was NOT the case for THAT TWA-800. The Shoot-Down was deliberate to take out THAT specific plane. Peace *** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 06-2009 |
Johnnybalmain, "I would'nt be surprised if certain secret agencies have the ability to insert a false reading into a radar reading to cause a desired result." Even if that is not the case... Supposition put forward by you could be proposition for some in this mad world. Salome. | ||
Johnnybalmain Member Post Number: 75 Registered: 11-2007 |
Smukhuti, It used to bother me mutchly but now everything is but a possibility. I find peace within myself reading and studying the writings of Billy. If I change myself for toward the neutral positive then I feel then I am contributing. Peace John | ||
Markjr New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2010 |
I don't know where else to put this. It has to do with flying so I'm putting this question here. In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfRkwjUF7o&feature=related at (2:45) Randolph Winter says that Semjase said that flying could be harmful if done repeatedly but you wouldn't be able to notice it till around a hundred years. Can anyone tell me if his contact tapes are correct and are worth listening to. |
