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Elreyjr
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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings,

What is the relevance of the lost Pyramids of Caral and the civilization around it having evidence that it is about as old as the pyramids in Egypt? ref: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4092265217728346257#

Jun
My will be done
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Contact Report 238, 18th May 1991
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238


Billy : But now tell me, is it also known to you or your scientists when the first human life formed in the region of our Milky Way?

Ptaah:
667. According to our research and according to the information from the Arahat Athersata level, the first humans, in their original form, came into being on the oldest planetary systems nearly 28,000,000 years ago, after which, then, about 27,000,000 years ago, the first physically recognizable humans emerged from them quite certainly as the life forms named hominids, which, however, first appeared very much later on the Earth....

Billy : .....The first genuinely recognizably human forms of life were created on the oldest planets of our Milky Way system about 9,000,000 to 12,000,000 years ago, and, before these then became real humans, who could really be designated human, certainly yet nearly another 1,000,000 years passed, or perhaps even more.

Question:
Original Human form - 28 million years ago
first physically recognizable humans emerged - 27 million years ago
first genuinely recognizably human forms(Billy) - 9,000,000 to 12,000,000 years ago
Real Humans(Billy) - (9,000,000 to 12,000,000 years ago) + 1 million years
Am i correct ?
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Rarena
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Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some humans migrated from other planets. Humans that are indigenous are linked to the environment of the planet they originate on.

It is my understanding the first humans were billions and billions of years in the past. There were some humans who were genetically manipulated so they were made to be real that is... spirit link.

So the very first "real" human was uncounted years ago. It is my understanding Nokodamion was human and he had to go through the 89 Billion year incubation period to become AA return from AA and re-live the 89 Billion year evolutionary incubation of which he is about twenty million years into... to help us. These numbers referenced above only go to 12 or 13 Million so they must be about the genetically manipulated humans or indigenous humans originating from a specific planet or maybe the spirits which are now inhabiting human bodies did not reincarnate into what we could call "human" bodies but I think not..

Michael Horn has a great video you may or may not have seen (for those who may wish to learn) where this is all described in detail by the artist who first drew Semjase, Kristian Kudrow (please excuse my mispelling of his name) and is a great English resource DVD to watch and learn about the Meier material. It is called the Silent Revolution of Truth and [he often has *special packages* that are on sale from time to time...] I would recommend that, because it is a good deal and inexpensive way to find out many, many facts in a wonderful and consice format. His website is TheyFly.com in the books section.

Thanks for the observation it will make me read more to understand. It may be this cycle of the Universe of which Ptaah and Billy were speaking and not the previous great cycles.
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2011 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Randy , he is Christian Krukowski, the artist who first drew Semjase , CG49 member .
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2011 - 04:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI,
i am aware of the video, Krowkovski says that the first humanbeing appeared on planet earth 9 - 12 million years ago...The above contact report talks about first human beings in milkyway galaxy...
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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C_andre
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone translate this?

From http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2011/nr-59/510-kontakt

Ptaah Das ist richtig. Den Wanderplaneten aus dem Kuiper-Gürtel nannten wir ‹Kuiper-Zerstörer›. Denjenigen, der aus unserem Raum-Zeit-Gefüge in das SOL-System einbrach, bezeichneten wir einfach als ‹Zerstörer›. Diesen haben wir ja, wie du sagst, schon vor Jahren eliminiert, während der andere, eben der Kuiper-Zerstörer, weiterhin im SOL-System seine Bahn zieht.

Billy So sieht die Sache also aus und kann nun verstanden werden. Somit kann ich mir nun auch vorstellen, dass es sich beim sogenannten Planeten X, der von Astronomen im Jahre 1983 fern von der Erde entdeckt worden sein soll, um den Kuiper-Zerstörer handeln könnte.

Ptaah Das ist tatsächlich anzunehmen. Leider kenne ich die tatsächlichen Fakten dieser Beobachtung nicht, wenn es überhaupt eine solche gegeben hat. Dass aber der Kuiper-Zerstörer wie eh und je seine Bahn durch das SOL-System zieht, das ist eine unumstössliche Tatsache. Was aber die wirkliche Wahrheit dessen ist, dass er 1983 fern der Erde aufgespürt und beobachtet worden sein soll, davon ist mir nichts bekannt. Da wir nicht jede geringe Einzelheit aller Geschehen und Vorkommnisse erfassen können, die sich auf der Erde ereignen, weil wir uns nur mit Dingen befassen, die für unsere Aufzeichnungen von Bedeutung sind, so mag es möglich sein, dass uns eine solche Beobachtung aus dem Jahr 1983 nicht bekannt ist.

Is Ptaah telling that the so called planet X is on his way to our solar sistem?

From contact 476:

Besides all this, the year 2012 brings other unpleasant events, like e.g. an unknown, invisible, dark and huge space wanderer that is threatening from the fringe of our solar system and could wreak tremendous havoc regarding Earth.

...

Ptaah
That is possible, yes. Regarding the Mayan calendar, the 21st of December 2012 represents the culmination of a star constellation that occurs only every 26,000 years. The Mayan calculations are assuming that the Earth – on the 21st of December 2012 – shall lie on an imaginary line that fits together the star over the left side of the constellation Orion with the central sun, i.e. the centre of the Milky Way. The Sun meets the Milky Way at a location that is built by interstellar dust clouds, and is called “dark cleft of the Milky Way” by the human beings of Earth. On the 21st of December 2012, at nightfall of winter solstice, the Sun is directly in that cleft, and it is in such a position that the Milky Way covers the horizon in all positions all around.
From this is resulting the optical impression that the Milky Way would touch Earth all around and that the galaxy would lie directly on the Earth. On the whole that’s the end product of the Mayan calendar recording. This should suffice, my friend. To say more would be too much of a good thing, because it would foster the fear of the human beings of Earth, which should not be, however. So keep silent regarding the further explanations that we gave you.

From yet they fly page 148, contact 52

Semjase - ..."This means that the pyramids were constructed precisely according to the astronomical data and measurements that will round off with the astronomical data precisely at a time when the catastrophe from space starts to threaten again.
...
This event will come to pass exactly at the time when the sunlight of a very distant star(a central star - the central sun of the Milky Way as well as of the Sol system), falls in through the pipe-like "opening of the revelation" that extends from outside the Giza Pyramid all the way...I am not permitted to say any more about it."

What you think, is that 21 of December the date when Planet X "could wreak tremendous havoc regarding earth" ?
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Rarena
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the correction Mark. Christian Krukowski, sorry Chris if you're reading this...
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mihigitam...


Yes, I understand your point.

There are indeed, planets way Older than Earth to sustain - First Life -, so
to speak.

Thus, Earth life forms were not as mentioned as did Krowkovski(?).

Earth is than...quite 'younger' compared to those Older planet where (human)
life began first.


Edward.
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Dan_c
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would be interesting if somebody could comment on Elreyjr's first comment about the lost pyramids of caral in South America as I also have the same question knocking in my head. Maybe a question to pose to Billy??
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Ufoman
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have about pyramiods os mseoamerica, when was bilt who build which ET build it? Was it really for? Were they connect o egyptian pyramids? What gymbie pryamids in australia or bosianian pyramids or pyrmiad in xian.
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Ufoman
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Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a lot of questions that needs to be answered. First off all! I want to know about those gold airplanes out of place articfacts found in the 1700s in south american, are they link with extra terrestrial visitors? Second, what about he anceint egptian light bulbs? Another OOpart. Did the ancient egyptian had light modern day technology? Are there advanced ETs in alpha draco star system?

I have question about the list of following Exter Terrestrials!

Are there Arturians?

What about Janosian, what star system is planet Janos in? What race on earth are they related to?

Are there advannce ETs in Altair star system? are they hostile, friendly or neutruel?

Are there ETs in alderbaran? (time shift dimension)?.
Are there intelligent ETs living in the agol star system Perseus constellation (time shift dimension).
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ufoman...


Many many questions, yes...:-)

Your first questions ARE...Your answers!


Some of the mentioned ETs do exist as far as I know. And are 'scattered' all
over Universes.

Only, a minority have Negative 'traits' as far as I know. They have to Evolve
just as you and I have to.

In general, as far as I know...there are always Inter-Dimensional beings
preset within a planet configuration. They have their purpose in life just as
we do. As you read the Meier Materials you will encounter this insight and
other interesting information, etc...


Edward.
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Elreyjr
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Moderators especially Indi,

I have tried to locate most appropos topic for my following question, but in vain.

If you will allow with a little room for flexibility:

Hi Edward,

You said in your post 2050:

"Hi Ufoman...


Many many questions, yes...

Your first questions ARE...Your answers!


Some of the mentioned ETs do exist as far as I know. And are 'scattered' all
over Universes.

Only, a minority have Negative 'traits' as far as I know. They have to Evolve
just as you and I have to.

In general, as far as I know...there are always Inter-Dimensional beings
preset within a planet configuration. They have their purpose in life just as
we do. As you read the Meier Materials you will encounter this insight and
other interesting information, etc... "

Could you kindly let me into your source that led you to know what you said you know?

I could easily accept, that because you have previously studied the topic by reading materials especially Billy's which could have led you to understand much more ultimately accept that those are true and reality, that is why you said you know.

Nonetheless, please share me your thoughts.

Jun
My will be done
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Earthling
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 02:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ufoman, we are not your search bots. Do some (re)searching on your own. Here's a list of sites for you to do your own (re)search, which should keep you busy for a while, or several lifetimes:

http://www.theyfly.com/

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.figu.org%2Fch%20



http://us.figu.org/portal/Default.aspx

http://ca.figu.org/

http://www.figu.org/ch/index/downloads/translations

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.gaiaguys.index.htm

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/Meier.htm

http://www.myspace.com/billymeier

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/chancede/Cnotes.html

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/Meier.html

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/meier.freeclips.htm
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> And also see: tjresearch.info/
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C_andre
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,
I saw on youtube Jaime Maussan talking about that on 28th of January a UFO appeared above The Temple of the Mount in Jerusalem and there are 3 films, plus a security camera confirming that.
Then in an interview a Scholar is telling that on Koran is written on that place Mohammed was taken in to the skies by Gabriel to be instructed about the Laws for Humanity.
Besides that event has this date also any specific meaning? Which civilization is behind this?
Surely this will influence many people and make them to think about earths religions, "now is a UFO but on the past was somekind of an angel or god."
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Ufoman
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are there reptilain in draco star system? Was the mesoasmeircan pyramids built the same time as anceint egtpyian pyramids?
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Ufoman
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Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I search but most of whatr I asked weren't there!
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Ufoman
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What does the sirian look like? What race do they look most resembled on earth? What does th akart people look like? Can anyone ask meier? heck i don't even know waht dnebians look like?
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Matthew
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Ufoman,

You are not alone. There are organisations to help you. "Questioners Anonymous" (Q&A) are good. Their 10-step program will help you learn how to control your questioning first of all so that you don't come across as an insatiably hungry puppy until you eventually learn to understand your need for questioning. There are also books out there; "I know - I'm OK. I don't know - I'm not OK" is a good one. Bob Marley's track "Belly Full (but they're hungry)" may help you understand your situation.

Remember, questioning is natural but if you don't hang around long enough for the answers then you're basically talking to yourself.

Matthew
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Elreyjr
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Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To Mr. Edward,

May be you missed my question (post 225 above)so I am reposting.

Hi Edward,

You said in your post 2050:

"Hi Ufoman...


Many many questions, yes...

Your first questions ARE...Your answers!


Some of the mentioned ETs do exist as far as I know. And are 'scattered' all
over Universes.

Only, a minority have Negative 'traits' as far as I know. They have to Evolve
just as you and I have to.

In general, as far as I know...there are always Inter-Dimensional beings
preset within a planet configuration. They have their purpose in life just as
we do. As you read the Meier Materials you will encounter this insight and
other interesting information, etc... "

Could you kindly let me into your source that led you to know what you said you know?

I could easily accept, that because you have previously studied the topic by reading materials especially Billy's which could have led you to understand much more ultimately accept that those are true and reality, that is why you said you know.

Nonetheless, please share me your thoughts.

Jun
My will be done
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Ufoman
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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Elreyjr can you ask meier to confirm if about if there really are Janosians, Altairians, alpha Draconians, Alderbaranians, Tau cetians, Agolians.
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Elias_g
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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are no Janosians, Altairians, alpha Draconians, Alderbaranians, Tau cetians, or Agolians.
mr.dr.prof.elias@hotmail.com

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