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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 326
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hope this helps, from CR 70
Gaint & Dwarf ET Races Origin
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Earthling
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 03:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mahigitam,

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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 348
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi
what is the basis/mechanism for mutation in genes ?
Scientists say the process is random and point to indeterminacy of Quantum Mechanics as the Original Cause.
Is the "random" mutation in genes caused by fine material energy according to some unknown law?
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 03:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam....

Another 'sharp' question as usual...:-)


Well, you are speaking from a today's science point of view, not? And, it
would not be related to any Plejaran or Creational conclusion, no?

Billy did mention, that such what you asked would or can just manifest itself
spontaneously. Even, if there is no pattern within the family, or whatever.

I think, myself, that we have to keep in mind, that the Reincarnation
Mechanism is 'out of order'(: Overpopulation), and thus, such what you asked
can occur due to this mentioned fact. Thus, the Mechanism, would still be
within the framework of the Creation's 'programming' which displays the
result(s) as you asked. [We can NOT blame Creation..but...only ourselves due
to not resolving our Overpopulation factor...]

With our Reincarnation Mechanism 'out of order'...we will encounter MANY
anomalies! In our Sky as well as in our DNA, Genes, etc...and we have to try
and make the most of it and Assist each other as much as we can.


Thus, the Law of Consequence(s): Cause and Effect...will Logically play part
in your question...and seen as THE Mechanism; I would think(; not to forget
the above mentioned: Programming).

As you may know ALL is dependent on the above mentioned (Creational) LAW.

I guess, you can say...very fine material energy plays part, yes; as usual.

And stir within the Consequences of the mentioned to either mutate or,
whatever the case may be. Converting into another Format...if you will;
greater or lower, in manifestation/value/etc....; whatever the Circumstantial
case may be; and, Variety/Variation, to be.


Edward.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 350
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam, I think the environment is what plays the biggest role in genetic disease. For example muscular dystrophy is also known as "dinner table heredity" based on mom's lack of certain vitamins and minerals in-vitro. The cause of disease is always one of these three - structural, cellular or nutritional.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sheila....


Yes, of course, our human habits, etc., also plays a role in generating
certain anomalies within our Gene Pool. One can even speak of - invisible and
non smell and tasteless - agents, in our environments/air(: Overpopulation
factor; once in your Blood Stream..no way eliminating them; which Billy made
quite clear; I share the same idea).

A healthy upbringing is quite essential, of course, and if we lack this:
Consequences will take it's stance; and the Effect of the Affect on the
humans, is obvious. Circumstantial factors/scenarios plays part here, with no
doubt.

Environmental - Overpopulation - would have quite an effect...on your mention
idea/scenario; as Billy made clear. Indeed, subjecting ourselves to extra
vitamins, etc., would help to some degree...to delay or avert any anomalies
which can affect our Gene Pool.


Edward.
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Ufoman
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My question is why didn't the sirian solve their problem with a simple solution and that is to create battle andriods insteadf of new type of warrior races. If they have high techology to travel and mass murder then genetic altered warrior race why can't they do to tehir enemies?
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Ufoman
(re;Post#24)

Androids with artificial intelligence capable of a certain level of reasoning, coupled with an aggressive, military programming, would be inclined towards preservation of the creators and eventually, their own preservation (through extermination) of the creators if the androids realize, through their programming, that the creators are now identified as the aggressor. The androids would likely manufacture themselves and likely make adjustments (improvement of efficiency and extended existence to improve functionality, purpose and intent of its original design).

With genetically altered human beings (as with the androids), they can control the maximum age, physical deterioration and limit of strength. Unlike the androids, these human beings would be capable of reasoning with and even be capable of love towards their creators and would not function out of purely instinctive-like programming which would be very dangerous no?

Your thoughts?

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy said in the Q & A that androids have the capacity to start duplicating themselves and can turn against the creators the human beings. It takes a special type of control to keep androids functioning where they don't rise up. Contact 251 indicates that will take us awhile for us to learn that here on Earth. If I were you I would visit the Q & A and also read the contact report translations a lot of your questions would probably be answered by doing your homework. Contact 219 says after many thousands of years the descendants of the Sirians now live in peace and without ambitions of power.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_219

with the exception of 63 renegades who still had the traditional hatred for us Earthumans the "Men-in-Black" who have all been apprehended on Mars in the meantime by Sirian security forces:

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_471

so it appears all we have to worry about as far as Sirians go in the future is the descendants of the genetic manipulated peoples liberators who became the Old Gods who will make themselves known in the future...

Salome,
Corey
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 05:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eddieamartin...


You got the idea, yes.

Manipulated humans just had their - Limitations -. Which would have been the
best configuration. And the Creator Overlords forgot that they could still
THINK, and their Free Will. Due to this they resisted being Slaves.


Edward.
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 05:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey...

Concerning your last question: as far as I know, the Creator Overlords have
Evolved and they have further no need to destroy their Creatures(Manipulated
Humans). They have Evolved Spiritual. And that it would be the case also, even
with the mentioned GODS whom were to make themselves known.

It was discussed in the past. You may want utilize the Search Engine for
details....?


Edward.
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Ufoman
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why did the sirian creator overlords created battle andriods? Was it that difficult? Its the most easiest concept in the universe. If they are so advance all they have to do is contruct a bunch of andriods and have them destroy their enemies. What so difficult about that?
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ufoman....


I think your question was answered before(?).

I think a human 'extracted' entity would be more efficient...than an Android
which still has to acquire some sort of independent: Thinking Consciousness/
mechanism; if you will.

You just create a human-like being to your own specifications...and it will
just manifest itself, as it should, in no time.

Seems, Androids are less likely to, due to it still having very much
Programming to acquire to make it function as it should. It's input of
intelligence would than be quite 'limited', than that of a human being-like
creature.

Upgrading an Android is quite a hassle. And they have to be upgraded from
time-to-time.

Human being-like creature would just 'absorb' information as it goes along.

Human-like being has LESS maintenance.....

The mentioned would be quite Logical.


Edward.
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Ufoman
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Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How these sirian creator overlords created the genetly manipulated humans i nthe first place. I know they geneticly alter them but how they create thei bodies, did they created them from using basic raw DNA and build them up until a new body grows, did they clone themsleves and geneticly after them or did they procreated(mated with each other through sex) and geneticly Manipulated
Humans they offspring's DNA!
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you watch Battlestar Galactica, it will probably inspire more questions , and you can ask them of the actors at press conferences .The theme of the series is very similar . I'm certain they will be happy to answer all of your questions .
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Ufoman
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Markcampbell but I don't like battlstar galactica. I only like the old star wars not the new three ones. just answer my question how the create the genticly alter race's body before gwenetic changing them.
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Johnnybalmain
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I liked Battlestar Galactica.Cool show!
Peace John
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh , my mistake ,U. Star Wars had robots too , so I assume that if you ask the actors of that movie series the same questions , they will roll their eyes in the same measure as the other movie's actors .
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Ufoman
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Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just answer ny qeustions, stop fooling around. I don't want ask battlestar I ask the question on the methods the sirian creator lords use to create theses new races.
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Matt
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Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, I think you may be thinking of the film called Blade Runner.

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/7764.html#POST29597
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Scott
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Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ufoman,

I haven't come across how this was accomplished. There is some mention about the Sirians in Contact 251 but I don't believe there is specific information. Perhaps Billy may know, you might consider asking him during the next round of questions which should occur around the end of June.

Scott
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Ufoman
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Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt, are you suggesting I am a biorobot? but I have soul! Now how can I contact the sirian lineage!
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sheila....


This discussion concerning GENES...I think it would be best to post here?

Well, best advice I can give is that you conduct a Web Search on Dutch Gene
research. But, I have to admit, not everything is mentioned and open for the
public. [There is an America researcher here...whom contributes quite
excellent input, as well as the Dutch and other individuals from abroad.]

So, you have to pick up the bits and pieces as you go along....

Their concepts are not that far as to what the Creator Overlords conducted; if
I may express it in familiar terms.


If they can 'reverse' the mentioned GENES of this string...is still the
question, though; at the moment, if you deactivate one gene, another problem
will arise in another gene...and go so on; they are in most cases very
'linked' to each other, thus, this problem still has to be resolved; and/that
when you turn one off...the other(s) will still function. Enhancing a Gene
does not seem to be a problem...but...getting it back to its Original state.

Not to forget, the Aging and Aggression Gene have been passed down for many
many a-centuries...and has adapted itself into our body system (Gene pool);
thus, Consequences play part now, which complicates the reversing process.


Edward.

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