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    Michael_horn Member Post Number: 379 Registered: 07-2009 |
> I don't think I'm alone in noticing that Ufoman asks endless > questions and demonstrates enormously little effort to seek answers > through his own efforts, to read the abundant information as > translated at furtureofmankind, or by Benjamin Stevens, let alone > throughout this forum. How's about a moratorium on Ufoman's > questions until they do some serious homework, study and...thinking? | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 564 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Ufoman, An ape is defined scientifically as "a large primate that lacks a tail, including the gorilla, chimpanzees, orangutan, and gibbons". Monkeys and other tailed primates are not apes. The Meier material only says that apes are descended from humans, and that the African hominin Australopthecus was the first human form, in which the pure drive awareness and instinctive consciousness was replaced by a evolution-awareness new spirit form. Neanderthals were part human, part ape beings which resulted out of ape-human mutations through genetic manipulations. If you want to clarify the evolutionary lineage of certain species of your interest, you have the option of posting questions to Billy. "Death belongs to life as birth does. The walk is in the raising of the foot as in the laying of it down." - Rabindranath Tagore | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2057 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Ufoman.... Apes/Monkeys(,etc)...took Another Direction of Evolution, than...the MAN TO BE Human Being, as we know him. Apes/Monkeys(,etc)...Evolved into Instinctive Consciousness related creatures and the Humans to Intuitive Consciousness related (THINKING) creatures/Human Beings. Simply said: they both Evolved in Another direction. MAN, DID NOT Evolve from Apes.... But, it can be said, that (certain) Ape formats are derived from MAN; through Man's Degenerate state of Evolution, into Stagnation; which puts him in a state of Evolving towards a Wild human being...and than resembling a Ape type of creature. Such scenario can manifest itself on any planet in evolution within Creation; planet Earth is NO exception. Please, utilize the Search Engine for further details: this was discussed in the past. Edward. | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 362 Registered: 02-2009 |
"African hominin Australopthecus was the first human form, in which the pure drive awareness and instinctive consciousness was replaced by a evolution-awareness new spirit form. " DId Billy mention that SUV ? p.s: I agree with MH, new members on the forum should go through the Meier material that is available in english and then only post relevant questions.. All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 569 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Mahigitam, That was mentioned in bulletin 46, readers question section. "The highest education is that which does not merely give us information but makes our life in harmony with all existence." - Rabindranath Tagore | ||
Vashthestampede New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hi Smukhuti and everyone, I can't find special bulletin 46. Can you please give a direct link? Thanks My question: What race is the decendent of Earth's first hominid that is still alive today? The Earth's native people. What is the color of their skin? | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 488 Registered: 10-2004 |
Was just looking into this. According to Christian, the first bunch of hominids to evolve on this planet (9-12 million years ago) died out. From a more Earthly perspective, a recent popular book entitled "Born to Run" postulates that the Neanderthals couldn't compete with Homo Sapiens Sapiens because they were not as efficient at hunting as we are. Apparently we can chase various animals (such as antelope and deer) until they die of heat exhaustion. I have always wondered why all the edible wild animals of the world with whom we have history are afraid us. Now we know - it is because we chase them --- to death. Fur leben. | ||
Vashthestampede New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hi Sitkaa, I am not referring to the hominids of 12 millions years ago. In contact report 215, Quetzal said they are only 80 cm tall(2.63 ft) I am more interested in these: "43. From the more distant descendants of all these human forms, who appeared in various places on the Earth, such as in Africa, Australia, Japan, China, America, South America and in Europe, etc., as you now call these areas, there were already early accumulations of dwellings – settlements, as you say – in which whole kinships gathered together. 44. Such sites are known to us on Earth, and they exhibit an age of 736,000 and of 811,000, 970,000 and 1,200,000 years" I am thinking that what gave us the color of our skin is due the different radiation from the Sun. I was wondering what is the natural color of the Sol system human skin color. Billy once encounter an ET human with bluish color in India. I already figured out the Nisan/ Kudra's Sun give the Asian's yellow skin color. I also saw a you-tube video on the Japanese Ainu people. They are considered as Japan's native, but looks Caucasian and some with blue eyes. I think they are Russian. But I could be wrong. The thing is, they were already on the Island before the Japanese arrive. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 663 Registered: 10-2008 |
It's possible that Billy has seen a bluish earth human in India , as these so exist , even in America. MC | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 03-2008 |
> > > > http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_46 > > > Davidmg | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 597 Registered: 06-2006 |
Once again, reminder to please not just post links on their own. State what the link is to, and your thoughts or opinions about what is contained in that link that is relevant to why you posted it. Robyn Rules & Netiquette http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=instructions#rules | ||
Vashthestampede New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hi, Thanks for trying but the link to your bulletin 46 - it's about WWIII I am looking for the one that said "African hominin Australopthecus was the first human form, in which the pure drive awareness and instinctive consciousness was replaced by a evolution-awareness new spirit form. " posted by Smukhuti I know how to search and google, but can't find any. I don't even think the word "Australopthecus" is mentioned anywhere in the Figu or contact report or any bulletin. Which contradicts Contact report 215 - "43. From the more distant descendants of all these human forms, who appeared in various places on the Earth, such as in Africa, Australia, Japan, China, America, South America and in Europe, etc., as you now call these areas, there were already early accumulations of dwellings � settlements, as you say � in which whole kinships gathered together." I think it is multi-regional, not only in Africa as Smukhuti said it is. If only the contact report tell us which one came first, that be great. And my question is: What color is the Earth's hominid skin color? Please, don't tell me the color of fur. Whatever color it is, it was produced by our own Sol sun, so , I am interested to know. I am guessing Brown. But I could be wrong as we always found old hominid bones but with no skin attached to it. Now, moving to a totally different subject: There was a mention of a nuclear war in Death Valley California, USA. Can anyone tell me for what reason, when, and by who? Thanks everyone. Hi Vashthestampede, It might be worth asking your second question in a more appropriate section, as you are taking this discussion off topic. Thanks, Badr-Moderator (Message edited by badr on June 12, 2011) | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 65 Registered: 11-2009 |
Vasthestampede, Perhaps you didn't read far enough into Bulletin #46. The word "Australopithecus" and variants occur 12 times on page 7. Btw, all of us here know how to use Google (I hope), but using it effectively is a different matter. Here's the Google search I used to find that: +Australopithecus "FIGU" -figure The Bulletin is the first result. (The + makes a word required, the quotes find exact matches, and the - excludes a word.) Incidentally, this even works if you incorrectly spell Australopithecus as you did above (you left out the "i"). So ... a fish (sort of) AND a fishing lesson. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 864 Registered: 07-2004 |
Jokoveltman, did I meet you at FIGU? a friend in america Shawn | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 11-2009 |
Yes, you did, Kingman. I've been meaning to get in touch with you about something we talked about there. My email is jokoveltman[at]gmail[dot]com. | ||
Andyrobson New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2011 |
I wanted to know about Billy Meiers experiences with Sasquatch. I have a feeling he has seen them on the ships. this is my main question. Light & peace- Andy | ||
Sauroman11 Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2010 |
I do not understand if human didn't evolved from ape from where he came from? Was he directly created by god? | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 604 Registered: 06-2006 |
Sauroman11 here is an answer to this question from the booklet '49 Questions' which is in English: "7. Where do we terrestrials come from? Semjase Contact Reports, Block 3 31st Contact, Sentences 603-608 Semjase: The human life form IS a product of Creation. Therefore, it does not descend from animals, e.g., apes, as it is so maliciously claimed by some people on Earth. Evolution of the human life form is a very lengthy process when the development of the physical form is considered. It was created from the earliest primitive life, but with the intended purpose of becoming a human being that was already ani¬mated by Creational forces in a sense of developing into a human. Thus, from his earliest beginning onward, it was determined that this created form would become human and, ultimately, a human being. This life form, therefore, has fundamentally been its own species since the very Ur4-beginning. OM Canon 8, Verses 78 and 79 Life proceeded along its path all the way to humankind, which evolved and became established as a separate, independent and the high¬est-developed life form of Creation, originating from the Ur-substances of the Earth and the life within it in a substance-bonding form. It established itself as human life in a substance-bonding form of the Earth and of the already existing floral and faunal life, without pos¬sessing a direct species-link with floral and faunal life forms. 4Ur=archetypal, original" Robyn Rules & Netiquette http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=instructions#rules | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 694 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dear Sauroman11, Is that truly your real name? It is also important to point out that god is a level of intelligence and evolution... not a devine being as in creator of the universe... which was a product of The Creation, far greater than the capability of any human being as we know them in our level of evolution and consciousness block. | ||
Sauroman11 Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2010 |
No my official name is Gediminas. "Semjase: The human life form IS a product of Creation. Therefore, it does not descend from animals, e.g., apes, as it is so maliciously claimed by some people on Earth. Evolution of the human life form is a very lengthy process when the development of the physical form is considered. It was created from the earliest primitive life, but with the intended purpose of becoming a human being that was already ani¬mated by Creational forces in a sense of developing into a human. Thus, from his earliest beginning onward, it was determined that this created form would become human and, ultimately, a human being. This life form, therefore, has fundamentally been its own species since the very Ur4-beginning." This theory contradicts laws of the universe - every life form appeared from less sophisticated organisms through slow gradual transformation. And BEAM states that human was created from dead animal and plant tissue, almost like described in bible. I wont believe such idea until I see with my own eyes that moment when human is being created. Now about god. I think Creation is just a synonym for God. BEAM well defines what is God, but for some kind reason denies its existence. Billy Meier does big mistake by calling JHWH god. I don't think that "king of wisdom" is highest spirit form, because he is not omnipotent,nor he is omniscient and greatest good. JHWH is just intermediary. | ||
Jacob Moderator Post Number: 670 Registered: 01-2004 |
Gediminas, I think you should study the information better and, if you have to translate the information from German to your native language, you find a better translating engine. The human being was NOT created from dead animal and plant tissue, it had its primordial beginning, in the 'Ur-soup' so to speak and started out as its own lineage, from which the human emerged, the apes branched off from this lineage and formed their own lineage. The Creation is called the Creation because in its universe its omnipotent and all-aware, in both the spiritual and material realms, in all times and dimensions, from the biggest to the smallest, simple because the Creation is all in its universe. The Creation is a genderless IT, neither male or female, but completely neutral. The title God, or said correctly JHWH is a title for a male human being that he has reached the highest possible knowledge and wisdom in a certain field, that could be astronomy, medicine, but the best known is the spirit teaching. The female equivalent is JHRH. Even for human standards enormous knowledge, a person with this title, either male or female is virtually nothing compared to the Creation, he would be nothing more then a grain of sand compared to a planet. There is NO god who controls your life, or imposes his/her will on you, your life is your responsibility and no-one else's, the Creation will not interfere whatsoever and stay perfectly neutral towards any of its creations. The biblical god, known as Jahweh was nothing more then a JHFH, King of falsehood, he used his enormous power and knowledge (but not wisdom!) to terrorize this planet and lead the people astray. JHRH: Strictly human title for a material female human being that has reached the level of queen of Wisdom. These human beings live in the last stages of human-material existence before changing over in halfspiritual forms. The female version means: JHRH (phonetic = Ischrsch) JHRHs are human beings like everybody else, but much higher in consciousness and spiritual development then -average- human beings. A JHRH can never be compared to Creation itself, because Creation is immeasurably higher then any other lifeform in its universe. JHWH: Strictly human title for a material male human being that has reached the level of king of Wisdom. These human beings live in the last stages of human-material existence before changing over in halfspiritual forms. The male version means: JHWH (phonetic = Ischwsch) JHWHs are human beings like everybody else, but much higher in consciousness and spiritual development then -average- human beings. A JHWH can never be compared to Creation itself, because Creation is immeasurably higher then any other lifeform in its universe. Other names for JHWH: TOTH, GO(O)D, GOTT, HAVA, TELI, DIEU, TEOS, JHVH, AGAD, BOOG, DEOS, DEUS, etc., etc. Jehova was not a JHWH in the common sense, but a JHFH, which means king of falsehood, malice I really suggest that you get a copy of the Talmud Jmmanuel and study it, its also published in English. Inform yourself with an open mind and study it. People can wish, dream,fantasize about god being real, but what is an illogical fantasy can never be reality. Salome, Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Edmundo Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2008 |
Hello Sauroman11, In 52th Kanon of OM is clearly explained difference between God and Creation: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/OM#Kanon_52 | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1432 Registered: 02-2000 |
Andyrobson, Norm Hi Billy, I've always wondered why Bigfoot has been so elusive. Is there anything you can tell us about this creature? Billy just observed a Bigfoot and a Yeti from out of the beamship, but he cannot give you details about their lives. My Website |
